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Post call | RDRS Standing Committee | Monday, 11 August 2025
by Devan Reed Aug. 11, 2025

Aug. 11, 2025

Dear all, The recordings for the RDRS Standing Committee call held on Monday, 11 August 2025 can be found on the agenda wiki page <https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/EQAgFw> and the GNSO Master Calendar<https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar/2025>. These include: * Attendance (please let us know if your name has been left off the attendance list) * Audio recording * Zoom recording (including audio, visual, rough transcript, chat archive) * Presentation displayed during the meeting (if applicable) * Agenda and Notes/Action Items (if applicable) For additional information, you may consult the mailing list archives<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.icann.org/hyperkitty/list/gnso-rdr…> and the main wiki page<https://community.icann.org/x/HgH8E>. Thank you! Kind regards, Devan Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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REMINDER | Meeting Invitation | RDRS Standing Committee | Monday, 11 August 2025
by Terri Agnew Aug. 8, 2025

Aug. 8, 2025

Dear all, The next RDRS Standing Committee call is scheduled for Monday, 11 August 2025 at 17:30 UTC for 120 minutes. To join - Zoom Information: Main Zoom Webinar link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/92181477886?pwd=TlJHTU5EY1d3bUxLV2s3UStPS2MxZz09 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/92181477886?pwd=TlJHTU5E…> Passcode: Z@S07?t=v5 Audio only option: Webinar ID: 921 8147 7886 Passcode: 3121016458 International numbers available: https://icann.zoom.us/u/acS1yc2A1 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/u/acS1yc2A1__;!!PtGJab4!9A…> Members, alternates, and observers all have different access and participation directions, please read below! ALL: Before joining the call * Please send apologies to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> only * Please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-s…> and the ICANN Community Anti-Harassment Policy<https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/community-anti-harassment-policy-2017…> * Wiki agenda page 2025: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/NjTlBg * Check your time zone: https://tinyurl.com/yf4mc7ya ONLY for Members & Alternates * Please join via the above Zoom Webinar link and staff will promote you to panelist. * Please select “ Everyone” when posting to the chat for everyone to see your chat and so it’s captured in the recording. Only for Observers: * Observers will have ability to view member chat and information shared in the zoom webinar room. * Observers will not be able to use chat or raise hands. Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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Proposed Agenda RDRS SC call 11 August 17:30 UTC
by Feodora Hamza Aug. 8, 2025

Aug. 8, 2025

Dear RDRS SC, Please find below the proposed agenda for our next call on 11 August taking place from 17:30 UTC for 120min. Proposed Agenda RDRS SC 11 August: 1. Welcome (5min) 2. Review pending comments and action items (105min) * Draft Report [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/11RPDqWgI0lcu…> * Review Document<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1cZnyjmibAysU…> 1. AOB (10min) Kind regards, Feodora on behalf of the Support Team

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Notes and Action Items: RDRS Standing Committee Meeting 4 August 2025
by Feodora Hamza Aug. 6, 2025

Aug. 6, 2025

Dear RDRS SC, Please find below the high-level notes and Action Items from our last call. * Action Item: Any additional CANNOT LIVE WITH items needs to be flagged as soon as possible for discussion during upcoming (last RDRS SC) meeting on Monday, 11 August. * Draft Report [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/11RPDqWgI0lcu…> * Review Document<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1cZnyjmibAysU…> * Action Item: Support Staff to update the Draft Report based on the agreements during today’s meeting. Note: o Recommendations have been reordered and introductory text has been added before Recommendation 3, explaining that ICANN org will not be adding proposed enhancements to the RDRS during the period of GNSO Council and Board dialogue. o Recommendation 5 on financial sustainability has been removed due to lack of agreement, and Support Staff has added draft text to p. 38 (beginning at line 684) to highlight the concern of some members with a strict interpretation of Rec. 14. o SC members to note ( based on the added language on p.38) if the Rationale and Proposed treatment (page 22) of Recommendation should be “keep” or “modify”. * Action Item: Steve Crocker to determine prior to next meeting if Rec. 4.1 on P/P data (see p. 8 of Draft Report<https://docs.google.com/document/d/11RPDqWgI0lcuMDe6OgIjLgmsrpdZZ1Eb/edit?u…>) needs to be revised in light of email to RDRS SC, or if this should be addressed via the PPSAI IRT. The next meeting is scheduled for Monday, 11 August at 17:30 for 120min. Kind regards, Feodora on behalf of the Support Team RDRS Standing Committee Meeting 4 August 2025 Action Items * Action Item: Any additional CANNOT LIVE WITH items needs to be flagged as soon as possible for discussion during upcoming (last RDRS SC) meeting on Monday, 11 August. * Action Item: Support Staff to update the Draft Report based on the agreements during today’s meeting. Note: o Recommendations have been reordered and introductory text has been added before Recommendation 3, explaining that ICANN org will not be adding proposed enhancements to the RDRS during the period of GNSO Council and Board dialogue. o Recommendation 5 on financial sustainability has been removed due to lack of agreement, and Support Staff has added draft text to p. 38 (beginning at line 684) to highlight the concern of some members with a strict interpretation of Rec. 14. o SC members to note ( based on the added language on p.38) if the Rationale and Proposed treatment (page 22) of Recommendation should be “keep” or “modify”. * Action Item: Steve Crocker to determine prior to next meeting if Rec. 4.1 on P/P data (see p. 8 of Draft Report<https://docs.google.com/document/d/11RPDqWgI0lcuMDe6OgIjLgmsrpdZZ1Eb/edit?u…>) needs to be revised in light of email to RDRS SC, or if this should be addressed via the PPSAI IRT. Agenda 1. Welcome (5 min) · This is the RDRS SC’s second to last meeting prior to publishing the report for public comment. · The enhancements from Chapter 2 will be delivered to the Council and Board to consider. · ICANN org will not be adding enhancements to RDRS while Board and Council discussions are ongoing. · During the post-pilot RDRS, the mindset is to continue this without enhancements, except for ongoing LEA authentication discussions. The decision future policy work probably has a few pieces to it: · Set broad direction (build original SSAD, make changes) - once outline of that is set, two things merge into one another: · First - eventual design · Second - what are the pathways from where we are to how to get there. What is the transition process? · May be helpful to subdivide these. · The amount of time involved will be related to these decisions. · We generally show paths from left to right - there are rarely feedback and loops built in. We should consider building a feedback loop into this process. · Re: link to non-participating registrars - this should be in the report if it is not already. · A reader of this report should have the same understanding that the SC has - what work is and is not being done; re: work being done, what the process would be to initiate work. 2. Review pending comments and action items (110min) o Draft Report [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/11RPDqWgI0lcu…> o Review Document<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1cZnyjmibAysU…> o Support Staff has updated the recommendation text based on last week’s discussion. o Financial sustainability recommendation § No text for Rec. 5 is preferable to text with disagreement § Gabe added language to help capture some concerns and ensure that text that did not represent consensus was clarified. § Phase 2 EPDP spent a lot of time discussing this, and this group shouldn’t relitigate this. Registrars prefer to remove this text entirely. § Re: Rec 14 in the table - there is one piece of Rec. 14 that needs to be modified and not kept. § There should be a discussion of the pros and cons in this report, particularly since this topic was discussed at length. § Rec. 14 - a portion of current rec. 14.5.1 - accreditation applicants must pay fee - at minimum, fees for accreditation must be considered for modification based on the current discussions. § Future policy work may not revisit the policy language from SSAD recommendations, but since a lot of time has passed, should be clear that a recommendation of “keep” is not a recommendation that it may not be touched or modified by future policy work. § GAC may have further comments on Rec. 6. (If not received in a timely fashion, can be submitted during public comment.) § Re: Steve Crocker’s email on PPSAI, is there any part of the current rec that is problematic? § Action: Steve Crocker to review Rec. 3.2 and confirm if there is any “cannot live with” text. § Following a concern from Farzaneh, John added clarity to Rec. 8 re: acceptance/denial so that requesters can have a better understanding of why a particular request has been accepted or rejected. Farzaneh noted that the request should include a human rights assessment. John updated language, and Farzaneh agreed to the updated language. § Is this a recommendation from the RDRS SC re: human rights assessment? § This is a small “r” recommendation for the eventual policy group to consider. § In terms of flow, analysis of human rights could be done preemptively § Added a suggestion that if there is a human rights assessment, that is documented. § This will be part of lessons learned - if there are disagreements, the additional concerns can be noted. § All “cannot live with” comments have now been addressed. § Action: Gabe to review Sarah’s comments re: PPSAI and handle offline. o There are some comments that need further clarification - these can be handled off list. o Next week is the last SC meeting. Accordingly, all substantial comments need to be provided (including proposed language to address the comments) as soon as possible o On p. 5 of the report - Rec. 2 is re: key system enhancements - as we heard at the top of the call, this is additional work on RDRS that ICANN is not planning to undertake but would undertake at the direction of the ICANN Board. It may be helpful to have explanatory text at the top of Rec. 2. In further context, Current Rec. 4 re: partial authentication - what we heard is that this is work underway. With that, it might make sense to move this recommendation ahead of Rec. 2. Current Rec. 5 is going away. Current Rec. 6 would become Rec. 5. Rec. 7 is to maintain the SC. Suggest slight change in ordering and adding additional explanation for Rec. 2 (or Rec. 3 after reordering). o Suggest modification of Gabe’s original text re: expedited requests. 3. AOB (5min)

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Post call | RDRS Standing Committee | Monday, 04 August 2025
by Terri Agnew Aug. 4, 2025

Aug. 4, 2025

Dear all, The recordings for the RDRS Standing Committee call held on Monday, 04 August 2025 can be found on the agenda wiki page <https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/BQAgFw> and the GNSO Master Calendar<https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar/2025>. These include: * Attendance (please let us know if your name has been left off the attendance list) * Audio recording * Zoom recording (including audio, visual, rough transcript, chat archive) * Presentation displayed during the meeting (if applicable) * Agenda and Notes/Action Items (if applicable) For additional information, you may consult the mailing list archives<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/lists.icann.org/hyperkitty/list/gnso-rdr…> and the main wiki page<https://community.icann.org/x/HgH8E>. Thank you! Kind regards, Terri Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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Meeting Invitation | RDRS Standing Committee | Monday, 11 August 2025
by Terri Agnew Aug. 4, 2025

Aug. 4, 2025

Dear all, The next RDRS Standing Committee call is scheduled for Monday, 11 August 2025 at 17:30 UTC for 120 minutes. To join - Zoom Information: Main Zoom Webinar link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/92181477886?pwd=TlJHTU5EY1d3bUxLV2s3UStPS2MxZz09 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/92181477886?pwd=TlJHTU5E…> Passcode: Z@S07?t=v5 Audio only option: Webinar ID: 921 8147 7886 Passcode: 3121016458 International numbers available: https://icann.zoom.us/u/acS1yc2A1 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/u/acS1yc2A1__;!!PtGJab4!9A…> Members, alternates, and observers all have different access and participation directions, please read below! ALL: Before joining the call * Please send apologies to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> only * Please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-s…> and the ICANN Community Anti-Harassment Policy<https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/community-anti-harassment-policy-2017…> * Wiki agenda page 2025: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/NjTlBg * Check your time zone: https://tinyurl.com/yf4mc7ya ONLY for Members & Alternates * Please join via the above Zoom Webinar link and staff will promote you to panelist. * Please select “ Everyone” when posting to the chat for everyone to see your chat and so it’s captured in the recording. Only for Observers: * Observers will have ability to view member chat and information shared in the zoom webinar room. * Observers will not be able to use chat or raise hands. Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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RDRS Standing Committee
by ICANN Policy Calendar Aug. 4, 2025

Aug. 4, 2025

Extended duration to 2 hours. Meeting: RDRS Standing Committee Pattern: Weekly on Mondays at 17:30 UTC for 60 minutes (23 June – 28 July 2025) – Extended series to end 11 August 2025. To join - Zoom Information: Main Zoom Webinar link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/92181477886?pwd=TlJHTU5EY1d3bUxLV2s3UStPS2MxZz09 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/92181477886?pwd=TlJHTU5E…> Passcode: Z@S07?t=v5 Audio only option: Webinar ID: 921 8147 7886 Passcode: 3121016458 International numbers available: https://icann.zoom.us/u/acS1yc2A1 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/u/acS1yc2A1__;!!PtGJab4!9A…> Members, alternates, and observers all have different access and participation directions, please read below! ALL: Before joining the call * Please send apologies to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> only * Please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-s…> and the ICANN Community Anti-Harassment Policy<https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/community-anti-harassment-policy-2017…> * Wiki agenda pages 2025: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/NjTlBg * Check your time zone: https://tinyurl.com/29yfk57t ONLY for Members & Alternates * Please join via the above Zoom Webinar link and staff will promote you to panelist. * Please select “ Everyone” when posting to the chat for everyone to see your chat and so it’s captured in the recording. Only for Observers: * Observers will have ability to view member chat and information shared in the zoom webinar room. * Observers will not be able to use chat or raise hands.

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**Starting in 15 minutes | Meeting Invitation | RDRS Standing Committee | Monday, 04 August 2025
by Terri Agnew Aug. 4, 2025

Aug. 4, 2025

**Starting in 15 minutes Dear all, The next RDRS Standing Committee call is scheduled for Monday, 04 August 2025 at 17:30 UTC for 120 minutes. To join - Zoom Information: Main Zoom Webinar link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/92181477886?pwd=TlJHTU5EY1d3bUxLV2s3UStPS2MxZz09 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/92181477886?pwd=TlJHTU5E…> Passcode: Z@S07?t=v5 Audio only option: Webinar ID: 921 8147 7886 Passcode: 3121016458 International numbers available: https://icann.zoom.us/u/acS1yc2A1 <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/u/acS1yc2A1__;!!PtGJab4!9A…> Members, alternates, and observers all have different access and participation directions, please read below! ALL: Before joining the call * Please send apologies to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> only * Please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-s…> and the ICANN Community Anti-Harassment Policy<https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/community-anti-harassment-policy-2017…> * Wiki agenda page: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/BQAgFw * Check your time zone: https://tinyurl.com/mrnp5knb ONLY for Members & Alternates * Please join via the above Zoom Webinar link and staff will promote you to panelist. * Please select “ Everyone” when posting to the chat for everyone to see your chat and so it’s captured in the recording. Only for Observers: * Observers will have ability to view member chat and information shared in the zoom webinar room. * Observers will not be able to use chat or raise hands. Thank you. Kind regards, Julie Policy Team Supporting the GNSO

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Solution for privacy and proxy registrations
by Steve Crocker Aug. 4, 2025

Aug. 4, 2025

RDRS Small Team, I've given some thought to Privacy and Proxy Providers. Here are my conclusions. 1. Privacy and Proxy providers are qualitatively different. Privacy providers provide alternatve contact details -- email, phone, physical address -- but do not obscure the registrant's identity. The purpose is to route correspondence to people who are designated to accept and act on the registrant's behalf, and to avoid disclosing the registrant's direct contact details. In the normal physical world, this is accomplished by explicitly designating a correspondence address. In the current implementations of registration data, inserting the correspondence address into the data elements allocated to the registrant's contact is mistake that has two consequences. - It obscures the fact that the contact data is noit related to the registrant but is, instead, contact data for a different role. - It makes it impossible to include registrant contact information in the database that may -- or should -- be available to authorized requestors. - The correct path forward is to define a new role, Correspondent. This role is optional. If it is included, in indicates where correspondence should be directed. This data should usually be public. In contrast, the registrant's address, etc. can be private and not disclosed in response to normal requests. 2. Proxy providers fall into two categories, known and unknown. Unknown proxy providers should be treated as ordinary registrants. That is, they should be presumed to be the actual registrant, with all of the rights, privileges, responsibilities and obligations as any other registrant. Known proxy providers should be identified as such. One possible way to do so is to extend the distinction between Natural and Legal Persons to include a third category, Known Proxy Provider. The concept of Known Proxy Provider is not the same as an accredited proxy provider. Accreditation presumably implies an agreement with the proxy provider to adhere with some rules regarding disclosure to appropriate requestors. The concept of a Known Proxy Provider simply conveys to the requestor that the registration has been carried out by a proxy provider, but there is no implication as to what the proxy provider will do when asked to reveal the beneficial registrant. 3. Proxy providers pose a potential policy conflict Registrars have obligations to collect accurate registration data, and they have an obligation to protect that data from inapprpriate disclosure. Where does a proxy provider fit into this picture? What service does it provide that is not in conflict with the registrar's role? Thanks, Steve

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Proposed Agenda RDRS SC call 4 August 17:30 UTC
by Feodora Hamza Aug. 1, 2025

Aug. 1, 2025

Dear RDRS SC, Please find below the proposed agenda for our next call on 4 August taking place from 17:30 UTC for 120min. Proposed Agenda RDRS SC 4 August: 1. Welcome (5min) 2. Review pending comments and action items (110min) * Draft Report [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/11RPDqWgI0lcu…> * Review Document<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1cZnyjmibAysU…> 1. AOB (5min) Kind regards, Feodora on behalf of the Support Team

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