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I like it, although I would not describe myself as an American (or a Canadian, of course). I would delete the phrase "We provide advice that impacts all Canadians and Americans" or rephrase it to something integrating the wording in the NARALO website like -We provide advice that impacts all those "located in Canada, the United States or Puerto Rico" or something like "We provide advice that impacts all our North American region, from Canada to the US and Puerto Rico" Javier Rúa-Jovet +1-787-396-6511 twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua
On Jan 12, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Alfredo Calderon <calderon.alfredo@gmail.com> wrote:
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It looks fine! I liked that you included the runnerup slogan in the initial paragraph of the mailcard.
Great job!
Sent from my "iPad Air"
Alfredo Calderón Email: calderon.alfredo@gmail.com Twylah: http://www.twylah.com/acalderon52 Twitter: acalderon52 Skype: Alfredo_1212 Business card: http://myonepage.com/ acalderon Scoop.it: http://www.scoop.it/t/aprendiendo-a-distancia Blog: http://aprendizajedistancia.blogspot.com Twitter news: http://paper.li/ acalderon52
On Jan 12, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry it was sent in error
The SIDE TWO
MANY VOICES, ONE INTERNET
NARALO Is the voice of the Internet End Users in North America. We provide advice that impacts all Canadians and Americans. NARALO is a key part of ICANN’s multi-stakeholder model. Its members work on a variety of initiatives such as, policy advice development, outreach and engagement, training, capacity building, technology and accessibility issues. Members also partner and collaborate with other key Internet governance stakeholders.
Make a Difference in how the Internet operates in North America, Come Join Us and with your help and engagement we can continue to improve NARALO and increase our voice within At Large.
To learn more visit our website at naralo.org or email us at naralo-leadership@icann.org
Note: It will have a NARALO LOGO as a watermark.
Please comment on suggestions or edit
Thanks G
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight .
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> wrote: https://community.icann.org/display/NARALO/NARALO+Mailcard+2017
Hi
We need your feedback on the new NARALO Mailcard
On side one is the NARALO logo, colour and welcome in three languages
The reverse side has the information and call to action
Here is the content
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight .
------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------
NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------
I agree with the suggested change by Javier: *"We provide advice that impacts all the North American region, from Canada to the US and Puerto Rico" *(I change the word "our" for "the") -ed On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 6:06 PM Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com> wrote:
I like it, although I would not describe myself as an American (or a Canadian, of course). I would delete the phrase "We provide advice that impacts all Canadians and Americans" or rephrase it to something integrating the wording in the NARALO website like -We provide advice that impacts all those "located in Canada, the United States or Puerto Rico" or something like "We provide advice that impacts all our North American region, from Canada to the US and Puerto Rico"
Javier Rúa-Jovet
+1-787-396-6511 <(787)%20396-6511> twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua
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Glenn:
It looks fine! I liked that you included the runnerup slogan in the initial paragraph of the mailcard.
Great job!
Sent from my "iPad Air"
Alfredo Calderón Email: calderon.alfredo@gmail.com Twylah: http://www.twylah.com/acalderon52 Twitter: acalderon52 Skype: Alfredo_1212 Business card: http://myonepage.com/ acalderon Scoop.it: http://www.scoop.it/t/aprendiendo-a-distancia Blog: http://aprendizajedistancia.blogspot.com Twitter news: http://paper.li/ acalderon52
On Jan 12, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry it was sent in error
*The SIDE TWO *
*MANY VOICES, ONE INTERNET*
NARALO Is the voice of the Internet End Users in North America. We provide advice that impacts all Canadians and Americans. NARALO is a key part of ICANN’s multi-stakeholder model. Its members work on a variety of initiatives such as, policy advice development, outreach and engagement, training, capacity building, technology and accessibility issues. Members also partner and collaborate with other key Internet governance stakeholders.
Make a Difference in how the Internet operates in North America, Come Join Us and with your help and engagement we can continue to improve NARALO and increase our voice within At Large.
To learn more visit our website at naralo.org or email us at naralo-leadership@icann.org
Note: It will have a NARALO LOGO as a watermark.
Please comment on suggestions or edit
Thanks
G
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight .
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> wrote:
https://community.icann.org/display/NARALO/NARALO+Mailcard+2017
Hi
We need your feedback on the new NARALO Mailcard
On side one is the NARALO logo, colour and welcome in three languages
The reverse side has the information and call to action
Here is the content
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight .
------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------
------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------
------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------
Thanks 2 All!!! Now we must get somebody to actually design these in a good design app. Ideas? Perhaps a student from your networks, Alfredo? Or do we have any talent at ISOCPR that could help, Eduardo? Javier Rúa-Jovet +1-787-396-6511 twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua
On Jan 16, 2017, at 2:57 PM, Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com> wrote:
Thanks Ed
Judith _________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
On 1/16/2017 1:55 PM, Eduardo Diaz wrote: I agree with the suggested change by Javier: "We provide advice that impacts all the North American region, from Canada to the US and Puerto Rico" (I change the word "our" for "the")
-ed
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 6:06 PM Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com> wrote: I like it, although I would not describe myself as an American (or a Canadian, of course). I would delete the phrase "We provide advice that impacts all Canadians and Americans" or rephrase it to something integrating the wording in the NARALO website like -We provide advice that impacts all those "located in Canada, the United States or Puerto Rico" or something like "We provide advice that impacts all our North American region, from Canada to the US and Puerto Rico"
Javier Rúa-Jovet
+1-787-396-6511 twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua
On Jan 12, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Alfredo Calderon <calderon.alfredo@gmail.com> wrote:
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Glenn:
It looks fine! I liked that you included the runnerup slogan in the initial paragraph of the mailcard.
Great job!
Sent from my "iPad Air"
Alfredo Calderón Email: calderon.alfredo@gmail.com Twylah: http://www.twylah.com/acalderon52 Twitter: acalderon52 Skype: Alfredo_1212 Business card: http://myonepage.com/ acalderon Scoop.it: http://www.scoop.it/t/aprendiendo-a-distancia Blog: http://aprendizajedistancia.blogspot.com Twitter news: http://paper.li/ acalderon52
On Jan 12, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry it was sent in error
The SIDE TWO
MANY VOICES, ONE INTERNET
NARALO Is the voice of the Internet End Users in North America. We provide advice that impacts all Canadians and Americans. NARALO is a key part of ICANN’s multi-stakeholder model. Its members work on a variety of initiatives such as, policy advice development, outreach and engagement, training, capacity building, technology and accessibility issues. Members also partner and collaborate with other key Internet governance stakeholders.
Make a Difference in how the Internet operates in North America, Come Join Us and with your help and engagement we can continue to improve NARALO and increase our voice within At Large.
To learn more visit our website at naralo.org or email us at naralo-leadership@icann.org
Note: It will have a NARALO LOGO as a watermark.
Please comment on suggestions or edit
Thanks G
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight .
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> wrote: https://community.icann.org/display/NARALO/NARALO+Mailcard+2017
Hi
We need your feedback on the new NARALO Mailcard
On side one is the NARALO logo, colour and welcome in three languages
The reverse side has the information and call to action
Here is the content
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight .
------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------
------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------
NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------
------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------
------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------
Ahh! Cool! Javier Rúa-Jovet +1-787-396-6511 twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua
On Jan 16, 2017, at 3:05 PM, Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com> wrote:
Javier,
ICANN is doing this and paying for it. Since we are not printing our brochures we had extra money to develop, design, and print these cards
Judith _________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
On 1/16/2017 2:01 PM, Javier Rua wrote: Thanks 2 All!!! Now we must get somebody to actually design these in a good design app. Ideas? Perhaps a student from your networks, Alfredo? Or do we have any talent at ISOCPR that could help, Eduardo?
Javier Rúa-Jovet
+1-787-396-6511 twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua
On Jan 16, 2017, at 2:57 PM, Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com> wrote:
Thanks Ed
Judith _________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
On 1/16/2017 1:55 PM, Eduardo Diaz wrote: I agree with the suggested change by Javier: "We provide advice that impacts all the North American region, from Canada to the US and Puerto Rico" (I change the word "our" for "the")
-ed
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 6:06 PM Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com> wrote: I like it, although I would not describe myself as an American (or a Canadian, of course). I would delete the phrase "We provide advice that impacts all Canadians and Americans" or rephrase it to something integrating the wording in the NARALO website like -We provide advice that impacts all those "located in Canada, the United States or Puerto Rico" or something like "We provide advice that impacts all our North American region, from Canada to the US and Puerto Rico"
Javier Rúa-Jovet
+1-787-396-6511 twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua
On Jan 12, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Alfredo Calderon <calderon.alfredo@gmail.com> wrote:
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Glenn:
It looks fine! I liked that you included the runnerup slogan in the initial paragraph of the mailcard.
Great job!
Sent from my "iPad Air"
Alfredo Calderón Email: calderon.alfredo@gmail.com Twylah: http://www.twylah.com/acalderon52 Twitter: acalderon52 Skype: Alfredo_1212 Business card: http://myonepage.com/ acalderon Scoop.it: http://www.scoop.it/t/aprendiendo-a-distancia Blog: http://aprendizajedistancia.blogspot.com Twitter news: http://paper.li/ acalderon52
On Jan 12, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry it was sent in error > > The SIDE TWO > > MANY VOICES, ONE INTERNET > > NARALO Is the voice of the Internet End Users in North America. We provide advice that impacts all Canadians and Americans. NARALO is a key part of ICANN’s multi-stakeholder model. Its members work on a variety of initiatives such as, policy advice development, outreach and engagement, training, capacity building, technology and accessibility issues. Members also partner and collaborate with other key Internet governance stakeholders. > > Make a Difference in how the Internet operates in North America, Come Join Us and with your help and engagement we can continue to improve NARALO and increase our voice within At Large. > > To learn more visit our website at naralo.org or email us at naralo-leadership@icann.org > > Note: It will have a NARALO LOGO as a watermark. > > Please comment on suggestions or edit > > Thanks > G > > Glenn McKnight > mcknight.glenn@gmail.com > skype gmcknight > twitter gmcknight > . > > On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> wrote: > https://community.icann.org/display/NARALO/NARALO+Mailcard+2017 > > Hi > > We need your feedback on the new NARALO Mailcard > > On side one is the NARALO logo, colour and welcome in three languages > > The reverse side has the information and call to action > > Here is the content > > > > Glenn McKnight > mcknight.glenn@gmail.com > skype gmcknight > twitter gmcknight > . > > ------ > NA-Discuss mailing list > NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > > Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org > ------
------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------
NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------
------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------
------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------
We can talk to James Lynn and see what he can do. However I though that Glenn had the design already. -ed On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 11:02 AM Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks 2 All!!! Now we must get somebody to actually design these in a good design app. Ideas? Perhaps a student from your networks, Alfredo? Or do we have any talent at ISOCPR that could help, Eduardo?
Javier Rúa-Jovet
+1-787-396-6511 <(787)%20396-6511> twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua
On Jan 16, 2017, at 2:57 PM, Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com> wrote:
Thanks Ed
Judith
_________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
On 1/16/2017 1:55 PM, Eduardo Diaz wrote:
I agree with the suggested change by Javier: *"We provide advice that impacts all the North American region, from Canada to the US and Puerto Rico" *(I change the word "our" for "the")
-ed
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 6:06 PM Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com> wrote:
I like it, although I would not describe myself as an American (or a Canadian, of course). I would delete the phrase "We provide advice that impacts all Canadians and Americans" or rephrase it to something integrating the wording in the NARALO website like -We provide advice that impacts all those "located in Canada, the United States or Puerto Rico" or something like "We provide advice that impacts all our North American region, from Canada to the US and Puerto Rico"
Javier Rúa-Jovet
+1-787-396-6511 <%28787%29%20396-6511> twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua
On Jan 12, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Alfredo Calderon <calderon.alfredo@gmail.com> wrote:
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Glenn:
It looks fine! I liked that you included the runnerup slogan in the initial paragraph of the mailcard.
Great job!
Sent from my "iPad Air"
Alfredo Calderón Email: calderon.alfredo@gmail.com Twylah: http://www.twylah.com/acalderon52 Twitter: acalderon52 Skype: Alfredo_1212 Business card: http://myonepage.com/ acalderon Scoop.it: http://www.scoop.it/t/aprendiendo-a-distancia Blog: http://aprendizajedistancia.blogspot.com Twitter news: http://paper.li/ acalderon52
On Jan 12, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry it was sent in error
*The SIDE TWO *
*MANY VOICES, ONE INTERNET*
NARALO Is the voice of the Internet End Users in North America. We provide advice that impacts all Canadians and Americans. NARALO is a key part of ICANN’s multi-stakeholder model. Its members work on a variety of initiatives such as, policy advice development, outreach and engagement, training, capacity building, technology and accessibility issues. Members also partner and collaborate with other key Internet governance stakeholders.
Make a Difference in how the Internet operates in North America, Come Join Us and with your help and engagement we can continue to improve NARALO and increase our voice within At Large.
To learn more visit our website at naralo.org or email us at naralo-leadership@icann.org
Note: It will have a NARALO LOGO as a watermark.
Please comment on suggestions or edit
Thanks
G
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight .
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> wrote:
https://community.icann.org/display/NARALO/NARALO+Mailcard+2017
Hi
We need your feedback on the new NARALO Mailcard
On side one is the NARALO logo, colour and welcome in three languages
The reverse side has the information and call to action
Here is the content
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight .
------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------
------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------
------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------
------ NA-Discuss mailing listNA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.orghttps://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------
------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------
------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------
Yes. I'm the one that's lost! Javier Rúa-Jovet +1-787-396-6511 twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua
On Jan 16, 2017, at 3:05 PM, Eduardo Diaz <eduardodiazrivera@gmail.com> wrote:
We can talk to James Lynn and see what he can do. However I though that Glenn had the design already.
-ed
On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 11:02 AM Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks 2 All!!! Now we must get somebody to actually design these in a good design app. Ideas? Perhaps a student from your networks, Alfredo? Or do we have any talent at ISOCPR that could help, Eduardo?
Javier Rúa-Jovet
+1-787-396-6511 twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua
On Jan 16, 2017, at 2:57 PM, Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com> wrote:
Thanks Ed
Judith _________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
On 1/16/2017 1:55 PM, Eduardo Diaz wrote: I agree with the suggested change by Javier: "We provide advice that impacts all the North American region, from Canada to the US and Puerto Rico" (I change the word "our" for "the")
-ed
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 6:06 PM Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com> wrote: I like it, although I would not describe myself as an American (or a Canadian, of course). I would delete the phrase "We provide advice that impacts all Canadians and Americans" or rephrase it to something integrating the wording in the NARALO website like -We provide advice that impacts all those "located in Canada, the United States or Puerto Rico" or something like "We provide advice that impacts all our North American region, from Canada to the US and Puerto Rico"
Javier Rúa-Jovet
+1-787-396-6511 twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua
On Jan 12, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Alfredo Calderon <calderon.alfredo@gmail.com> wrote:
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Glenn:
It looks fine! I liked that you included the runnerup slogan in the initial paragraph of the mailcard.
Great job!
Sent from my "iPad Air"
Alfredo Calderón Email: calderon.alfredo@gmail.com Twylah: http://www.twylah.com/acalderon52 Twitter: acalderon52 Skype: Alfredo_1212 Business card: http://myonepage.com/ acalderon Scoop.it: http://www.scoop.it/t/aprendiendo-a-distancia Blog: http://aprendizajedistancia.blogspot.com Twitter news: http://paper.li/ acalderon52
On Jan 12, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry it was sent in error
The SIDE TWO
MANY VOICES, ONE INTERNET
NARALO Is the voice of the Internet End Users in North America. We provide advice that impacts all Canadians and Americans. NARALO is a key part of ICANN’s multi-stakeholder model. Its members work on a variety of initiatives such as, policy advice development, outreach and engagement, training, capacity building, technology and accessibility issues. Members also partner and collaborate with other key Internet governance stakeholders.
Make a Difference in how the Internet operates in North America, Come Join Us and with your help and engagement we can continue to improve NARALO and increase our voice within At Large.
To learn more visit our website at naralo.org or email us at naralo-leadership@icann.org
Note: It will have a NARALO LOGO as a watermark.
Please comment on suggestions or edit
Thanks G
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight .
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> wrote: https://community.icann.org/display/NARALO/NARALO+Mailcard+2017
Hi
We need your feedback on the new NARALO Mailcard
On side one is the NARALO logo, colour and welcome in three languages
The reverse side has the information and call to action
Here is the content
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight .
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+1 Leah Symekher On 1/16/17 10:55 AM, Eduardo Diaz wrote:
I agree with the suggested change by Javier: /"We provide advice that impacts all the North American region, from Canada to the US and Puerto Rico" /(I change the word "our" for "the") */ /* -ed
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 6:06 PM Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com <mailto:javrua@gmail.com>> wrote:
I like it, although I would not describe myself as an American (or a Canadian, of course). I would delete the phrase "We provide advice that impacts all Canadians and Americans" or rephrase it to something integrating the wording in the NARALO website like -We provide advice that impacts all those "located in Canada, the United States or Puerto Rico" or something like "We provide advice that impacts all our North American region, from Canada to the US and Puerto Rico"
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Glenn:
It looks fine! I liked that you included the runnerup slogan in the initial paragraph of the mailcard.
Great job!
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On Jan 12, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com <mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sorry it was sent in error
*_The SIDE TWO _*
*MANY VOICES, ONE INTERNET*
NARALO Is the voice of the Internet End Users in North America. We provide advice that impacts all Canadians and Americans. NARALO is a key part of ICANN’s multi-stakeholder model. Its members work on a variety of initiatives such as, policy advice development, outreach and engagement, training, capacity building, technology and accessibility issues. Members also partner and collaborate with other key Internet governance stakeholders.
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Make a Difference in how the Internet operates in North America, Come Join Us and with your help and engagement we can continue to improve NARALO and increase our voice within At Large.
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To learn more visit our website at naralo.org <http://naralo.org/> or email us at naralo-leadership@icann.org <mailto:naralo-leadership@icann.org>
Note: It will have a NARALO LOGO as a watermark.
Please comment on suggestions or edit
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Hi
We need your feedback on the new NARALO Mailcard
On side one is the NARALO logo, colour and welcome in three languages
The reverse side has the information and call to action
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I like it, although I would not describe myself as an American (or a Canadian, of course). ...
I really, really, do not want to get into this parochial political fight. Puerto Ricans are US citizens, they have US passports, and they can travel freely to and from the rest of the US just like any other US citizens. There are surely some Puerto Ricans who wish it were otherwise, but the facts are what they are. PR is part of NARALO beause PR is part of the U.S., not because of its physical location. Cuba and the Bahamas are closer to the mainland US than PR is, but they're in the LAC region because they're not part of the U.S. On the other hand, if we're going to call out Puerto Rico separately, we need also call out the US Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guam, Saipan, and perhaps Hawaii, all of which are in NARALO because they're part of the U.S. even though they're physically located in other regions. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
HI John This is the self identified view of all three of the PR reps that provided feedback on the card. G Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight . On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 12:06 PM, John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
I like it, although I would not describe myself as an American (or a
Canadian, of course). ...
I really, really, do not want to get into this parochial political fight. Puerto Ricans are US citizens, they have US passports, and they can travel freely to and from the rest of the US just like any other US citizens.
There are surely some Puerto Ricans who wish it were otherwise, but the facts are what they are. PR is part of NARALO beause PR is part of the U.S., not because of its physical location. Cuba and the Bahamas are closer to the mainland US than PR is, but they're in the LAC region because they're not part of the U.S.
On the other hand, if we're going to call out Puerto Rico separately, we need also call out the US Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guam, Saipan, and perhaps Hawaii, all of which are in NARALO because they're part of the U.S. even though they're physically located in other regions.
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Yes, we in Hawaii have a lot more in common with those in Asia and Oceana than many parts of North America. Perhaps they can include us in three regions J From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Glenn McKnight Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 7:08 AM To: John R. Levine Cc: NA Discuss Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] MAILCARD Feedbacl HI John This is the self identified view of all three of the PR reps that provided feedback on the card. G Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight . On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 12:06 PM, John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote: I like it, although I would not describe myself as an American (or a Canadian, of course). ... I really, really, do not want to get into this parochial political fight. Puerto Ricans are US citizens, they have US passports, and they can travel freely to and from the rest of the US just like any other US citizens. There are surely some Puerto Ricans who wish it were otherwise, but the facts are what they are. PR is part of NARALO beause PR is part of the U.S., not because of its physical location. Cuba and the Bahamas are closer to the mainland US than PR is, but they're in the LAC region because they're not part of the U.S. On the other hand, if we're going to call out Puerto Rico separately, we need also call out the US Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guam, Saipan, and perhaps Hawaii, all of which are in NARALO because they're part of the U.S. even though they're physically located in other regions. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly ------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
This is the self identified view of all three of the PR reps that provided feedback on the card.
I believe it, but it is not the view of the American reps, and PR is in NARALO because it is part of the United States. If we separately call out Puerto Rico, we *must* also call out the US Virgin Islands, Guam, Saipan, and American Samoa, since their status as part of the US is the same as that of Puerto Rico. This is not negotiable. R's, John
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 12:06 PM, John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
I like it, although I would not describe myself as an American (or a
Canadian, of course). ...
I really, really, do not want to get into this parochial political fight. Puerto Ricans are US citizens, they have US passports, and they can travel freely to and from the rest of the US just like any other US citizens.
There are surely some Puerto Ricans who wish it were otherwise, but the facts are what they are. PR is part of NARALO beause PR is part of the U.S., not because of its physical location. Cuba and the Bahamas are closer to the mainland US than PR is, but they're in the LAC region because they're not part of the U.S.
On the other hand, if we're going to call out Puerto Rico separately, we need also call out the US Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guam, Saipan, and perhaps Hawaii, all of which are in NARALO because they're part of the U.S. even though they're physically located in other regions.
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Ok folks from PR it's time for you folks to step up. I asked for feedback I sent the copy for printing and now I get a counter opinion Can we settle this political self identification one last time. I am telling communication to hold off on printing until resolved G Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight . On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 12:51 PM, John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
This is the self identified view of all three of the PR reps that
provided feedback on the card.
I believe it, but it is not the view of the American reps, and PR is in NARALO because it is part of the United States.
If we separately call out Puerto Rico, we *must* also call out the US Virgin Islands, Guam, Saipan, and American Samoa, since their status as part of the US is the same as that of Puerto Rico. This is not negotiable.
R's, John
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 12:06 PM, John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
I like it, although I would not describe myself as an American (or a
Canadian, of course). ...
I really, really, do not want to get into this parochial political fight. Puerto Ricans are US citizens, they have US passports, and they can travel freely to and from the rest of the US just like any other US citizens.
There are surely some Puerto Ricans who wish it were otherwise, but the facts are what they are. PR is part of NARALO beause PR is part of the U.S., not because of its physical location. Cuba and the Bahamas are closer to the mainland US than PR is, but they're in the LAC region because they're not part of the U.S.
On the other hand, if we're going to call out Puerto Rico separately, we need also call out the US Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guam, Saipan, and perhaps Hawaii, all of which are in NARALO because they're part of the U.S. even though they're physically located in other regions.
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Glenn and all: I would stick with what is published at - https://community.icann.org/m/mobile.action#page/2266167 "NOTE: According to current the ICANN regional divisions, NARALO only comprises organisations and individuals located in Canada, the United States, and Puerto Rico. Anyone interested from Central America or the Carribbean would join LACRALO ." Sent from my "iPad Air" Alfredo Calderón Email: calderon.alfredo@gmail.com Twylah: http://www.twylah.com/acalderon52 Twitter: acalderon52 Skype: Alfredo_1212 Business card: http://myonepage.com/ acalderon Scoop.it: http://www.scoop.it/t/aprendiendo-a-distancia Blog: http://aprendizajedistancia.blogspot.com Twitter news: http://paper.li/ acalderon52
On Jan 17, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok folks from PR it's time for you folks to step up. I asked for feedback I sent the copy for printing and now I get a counter opinion Can we settle this political self identification one last time. I am telling communication to hold off on printing until resolved
G
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight .
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 12:51 PM, John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
This is the self identified view of all three of the PR reps that provided feedback on the card.
I believe it, but it is not the view of the American reps, and PR is in NARALO because it is part of the United States.
If we separately call out Puerto Rico, we *must* also call out the US Virgin Islands, Guam, Saipan, and American Samoa, since their status as part of the US is the same as that of Puerto Rico. This is not negotiable.
R's, John
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 12:06 PM, John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
I like it, although I would not describe myself as an American (or a
Canadian, of course). ...
I really, really, do not want to get into this parochial political fight. Puerto Ricans are US citizens, they have US passports, and they can travel freely to and from the rest of the US just like any other US citizens.
There are surely some Puerto Ricans who wish it were otherwise, but the facts are what they are. PR is part of NARALO beause PR is part of the U.S., not because of its physical location. Cuba and the Bahamas are closer to the mainland US than PR is, but they're in the LAC region because they're not part of the U.S.
On the other hand, if we're going to call out Puerto Rico separately, we need also call out the US Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guam, Saipan, and perhaps Hawaii, all of which are in NARALO because they're part of the U.S. even though they're physically located in other regions.
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I have no problem with this. I'm restating the language already present in the NARALO website. I think that I kind of agree with @John in "calling out" the other territories under the sovereignty of and/or in a Commonwealth relation with the USA, but my solution, instead of excluding them, would be to affirmatively mention all of those that have their own ccTLD. Javier Rúa-Jovet +1-787-396-6511 twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua On Jan 17, 2017, at 1:51 PM, John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
This is the self identified view of all three of the PR reps that provided feedback on the card.
I believe it, but it is not the view of the American reps, and PR is in NARALO because it is part of the United States.
If we separately call out Puerto Rico, we *must* also call out the US Virgin Islands, Guam, Saipan, and American Samoa, since their status as part of the US is the same as that of Puerto Rico. This is not negotiable.
R's, John
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 12:06 PM, John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
I like it, although I would not describe myself as an American (or a
Canadian, of course). ...
I really, really, do not want to get into this parochial political fight. Puerto Ricans are US citizens, they have US passports, and they can travel freely to and from the rest of the US just like any other US citizens.
There are surely some Puerto Ricans who wish it were otherwise, but the facts are what they are. PR is part of NARALO beause PR is part of the U.S., not because of its physical location. Cuba and the Bahamas are closer to the mainland US than PR is, but they're in the LAC region because they're not part of the U.S.
On the other hand, if we're going to call out Puerto Rico separately, we need also call out the US Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guam, Saipan, and perhaps Hawaii, all of which are in NARALO because they're part of the U.S. even though they're physically located in other regions.
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With the exception of U.S. VI we don't have ALSes from the other territories, and we have tried to recruit them... For some of the Pacific territories, APRALO said "hands off" I think On 1/17/17 12:51 PM, John R. Levine wrote:
This is the self identified view of all three of the PR reps that provided feedback on the card.
I believe it, but it is not the view of the American reps, and PR is in NARALO because it is part of the United States.
If we separately call out Puerto Rico, we *must* also call out the US Virgin Islands, Guam, Saipan, and American Samoa, since their status as part of the US is the same as that of Puerto Rico. This is not negotiable.
R's, John
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 12:06 PM, John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
I like it, although I would not describe myself as an American (or a
Canadian, of course). ...
I really, really, do not want to get into this parochial political fight. Puerto Ricans are US citizens, they have US passports, and they can travel freely to and from the rest of the US just like any other US citizens.
There are surely some Puerto Ricans who wish it were otherwise, but the facts are what they are. PR is part of NARALO beause PR is part of the U.S., not because of its physical location. Cuba and the Bahamas are closer to the mainland US than PR is, but they're in the LAC region because they're not part of the U.S.
On the other hand, if we're going to call out Puerto Rico separately, we need also call out the US Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guam, Saipan, and perhaps Hawaii, all of which are in NARALO because they're part of the U.S. even though they're physically located in other regions.
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With the exception of U.S. VI we don't have ALSes from the other territories, and we have tried to recruit them...
For some of the Pacific territories, APRALO said "hands off" I think
They better not have -- Guam and Saipan are as American as PR and the USVI.
On 1/17/17 12:51 PM, John R. Levine wrote:
This is the self identified view of all three of the PR reps that provided feedback on the card.
I believe it, but it is not the view of the American reps, and PR is in NARALO because it is part of the United States.
If we separately call out Puerto Rico, we *must* also call out the US Virgin Islands, Guam, Saipan, and American Samoa, since their status as part of the US is the same as that of Puerto Rico. This is not negotiable.
R's, John
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 12:06 PM, John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
I like it, although I would not describe myself as an American (or a
Canadian, of course). ...
I really, really, do not want to get into this parochial political fight. Puerto Ricans are US citizens, they have US passports, and they can travel freely to and from the rest of the US just like any other US citizens.
There are surely some Puerto Ricans who wish it were otherwise, but the facts are what they are. PR is part of NARALO beause PR is part of the U.S., not because of its physical location. Cuba and the Bahamas are closer to the mainland US than PR is, but they're in the LAC region because they're not part of the U.S.
On the other hand, if we're going to call out Puerto Rico separately, we need also call out the US Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guam, Saipan, and perhaps Hawaii, all of which are in NARALO because they're part of the U.S. even though they're physically located in other regions.
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@John And I thought you "really, d(id) not want to get into this parochial political fight"! Javier Rúa-Jovet +1-787-396-6511 twitter: @javrua skype: javier.rua1 https://www.linkedin.com/in/javrua On Jan 17, 2017, at 3:17 PM, John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
With the exception of U.S. VI we don't have ALSes from the other territories, and we have tried to recruit them...
For some of the Pacific territories, APRALO said "hands off" I think
They better not have -- Guam and Saipan are as American as PR and the USVI.
On 1/17/17 12:51 PM, John R. Levine wrote:
This is the self identified view of all three of the PR reps that provided feedback on the card. I believe it, but it is not the view of the American reps, and PR is in NARALO because it is part of the United States. If we separately call out Puerto Rico, we *must* also call out the US Virgin Islands, Guam, Saipan, and American Samoa, since their status as part of the US is the same as that of Puerto Rico. This is not negotiable. R's, John
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 12:06 PM, John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote: I like it, although I would not describe myself as an American (or a
> Canadian, of course). ... I really, really, do not want to get into this parochial political fight. Puerto Ricans are US citizens, they have US passports, and they can travel freely to and from the rest of the US just like any other US citizens. There are surely some Puerto Ricans who wish it were otherwise, but the facts are what they are. PR is part of NARALO beause PR is part of the U.S., not because of its physical location. Cuba and the Bahamas are closer to the mainland US than PR is, but they're in the LAC region because they're not part of the U.S. On the other hand, if we're going to call out Puerto Rico separately, we need also call out the US Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guam, Saipan, and perhaps Hawaii, all of which are in NARALO because they're part of the U.S. even though they're physically located in other regions. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
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Currently despite our efforts the only locations outside Continental US and Canada we don't have a single US territory as a ALS. The new revised fellowship may change this. We have recorded all the ICANN fellowship for the past 10 years. Moving forward these 15 US territories can apply for the fellowship except the next round which is restricted to only Alumni. Perhaps we can encourage fellowship in those regions we can gain a foothold. Many of the fellows became active, some became leaders and others became ICANN Staff. Glenn Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight . On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com> wrote:
@John And I thought you "really, d(id) not want to get into this parochial political fight"!
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On Jan 17, 2017, at 3:17 PM, John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
With the exception of U.S. VI we don't have ALSes from the other territories, and we have tried to recruit them...
For some of the Pacific territories, APRALO said "hands off" I think
They better not have -- Guam and Saipan are as American as PR and the USVI.
On 1/17/17 12:51 PM, John R. Levine wrote:
This is the self identified view of all three of the PR reps that
provided feedback on the card.
I believe it, but it is not the view of the American reps, and PR is in NARALO because it is part of the United States.
If we separately call out Puerto Rico, we *must* also call out the US Virgin Islands, Guam, Saipan, and American Samoa, since their status as part of the US is the same as that of Puerto Rico. This is not negotiable.
R's,
John
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 12:06 PM, John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
I like it, although I would not describe myself as an American (or a
Canadian, of course). ...
I really, really, do not want to get into this parochial political fight.
Puerto Ricans are US citizens, they have US passports, and they can travel
freely to and from the rest of the US just like any other US citizens.
There are surely some Puerto Ricans who wish it were otherwise, but the
facts are what they are. PR is part of NARALO beause PR is part of the
U.S., not because of its physical location. Cuba and the Bahamas are
closer to the mainland US than PR is, but they're in the LAC region because
they're not part of the U.S.
On the other hand, if we're going to call out Puerto Rico separately, we
need also call out the US Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guam, Saipan, and
perhaps Hawaii, all of which are in NARALO because they're part of the U.S.
even though they're physically located in other regions.
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Currently despite our efforts the only locations outside Continental US and Canada we don't have a single US territory as a ALS.
Sure we do: Hispanic Educational Technology Services and ISOC Puerto Rico. It's not surprising that you can't find ALS in the other territories, since they're all very small. There are about 3.5 million people in Puerto Rico. The rest are Guam with 165K, USVI with 104K, American Samoa with 55K, and CNMI with 53K. All the other insular areas are uninhabited other than the occasional scientific or military station. R's, John PS: PR is called a Commonwealth, but that mans that it's an organized unincorporated territory, same as CNMI.
American Samoa are US National and not US citizen by birth so they do not have the same territorial status as Puerto Rico. -ed On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 4:15 PM John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
Currently despite our efforts the only locations outside Continental US and Canada we don't have a single US territory as a ALS.
Sure we do: Hispanic Educational Technology Services and ISOC Puerto Rico.
It's not surprising that you can't find ALS in the other territories, since they're all very small. There are about 3.5 million people in Puerto Rico. The rest are Guam with 165K, USVI with 104K, American Samoa with 55K, and CNMI with 53K. All the other insular areas are uninhabited other than the occasional scientific or military station.
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When Glenn and I looked at this a while ago we tried to focus on populations getting the LEAST representation or with the poorest Internet access. I wish we could focus on getting them engaged and not deciding which imaginary line they're across. On 1/17/17 4:48 PM, Eduardo Diaz wrote:
American Samoa are US National and not US citizen by birth so they do not have the same territorial status as Puerto Rico.
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> Currently despite our efforts the only locations outside Continental US > and Canada we don't have a single US territory as a ALS.
Sure we do: Hispanic Educational Technology Services and ISOC Puerto Rico.
It's not surprising that you can't find ALS in the other territories, since they're all very small. There are about 3.5 million people in Puerto Rico. The rest are Guam with 165K, USVI with 104K, American Samoa with 55K, and CNMI with 53K. All the other insular areas are uninhabited other than the occasional scientific or military station.
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When Glenn and I looked at this a while ago we tried to focus on populations getting the LEAST representation or with the poorest Internet access. I wish we could focus on getting them engaged and not deciding which imaginary line they're across.
On 1/17/17 4:48 PM, Eduardo Diaz wrote: American Samoa are US National and not US citizen by birth so they do not have the same territorial status as Puerto Rico.
-ed
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Currently despite our efforts the only locations outside Continental US and Canada we don't have a single US territory as a ALS.
Sure we do: Hispanic Educational Technology Services and ISOC Puerto Rico.
It's not surprising that you can't find ALS in the other territories, since they're all very small. There are about 3.5 million people in Puerto Rico. The rest are Guam with 165K, USVI with 104K, American Samoa with 55K, and CNMI with 53K. All the other insular areas are uninhabited other than the occasional scientific or military station.
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When Glenn and I looked at this a while ago we tried to focus on populations getting the LEAST representation or with the poorest Internet access. I wish we could focus on getting them engaged and not deciding which imaginary line they're across.
The combined populations of the USVI, Guam, CNMI, and American Samoa are less than that of the least populous US state, Wyoming. Do we have an ALS from Wyoming? R's, John PS: I agree that making artificial distinctions between the US and its territories is a complete waste of time.
Were this community to spend as much effort on discussing ICANN policy as it does on slogans, brochures, rules&procedures and the status of Puerto Rico, we'd actually have something of value to offer those who come here through all those outreach and fellowship programs. PS: "continental US" also excludes Hawaii, and we have an ALS there too.
Were this community to spend as much effort on discussing ICANN policy as it does on slogans, brochures, rules&procedures and the status of Puerto Rico, we'd actually have something of value to offer those who come here through all those outreach and fellowship programs.
No kidding. I was about to point out much the same thing, that the ALAC has long been plagued by people with quixotic agendas unrelated to anything that ICANN might or might not do. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly
@John: just to remind you that you started this discussion. -ed On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 5:47 PM John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
Were this community to spend as much effort on discussing ICANN policy as it does on slogans, brochures, rules&procedures and the status of Puerto Rico, we'd actually have something of value to offer those who come here through all those outreach and fellowship programs.
No kidding. I was about to point out much the same thing, that the ALAC has long been plagued by people with quixotic agendas unrelated to anything that ICANN might or might not do.
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Here's the thing John. I don't like all this separation and segmentation. Mexico is part of North America but we don't have it in our RALO. The ICANN RALO map reminds me much of the global divisions in 1984. If it's by continent, India and Australia should be their own RALOs. It's not by population, it if was Asia would be divided several times over. Even though Asia/Pacific is one RALO, they have segmented networks within APNIC. How do we do all of this administrative stuff in At-Large properly without offending anyone? One World One Internet! On 1/17/17 2:17 PM, John R. Levine wrote:
With the exception of U.S. VI we don't have ALSes from the other territories, and we have tried to recruit them...
For some of the Pacific territories, APRALO said "hands off" I think
They better not have -- Guam and Saipan are as American as PR and the USVI.
On 1/17/17 12:51 PM, John R. Levine wrote:
This is the self identified view of all three of the PR reps that provided feedback on the card.
I believe it, but it is not the view of the American reps, and PR is in NARALO because it is part of the United States.
If we separately call out Puerto Rico, we *must* also call out the US Virgin Islands, Guam, Saipan, and American Samoa, since their status as part of the US is the same as that of Puerto Rico. This is not negotiable.
R's, John
On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 12:06 PM, John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
I like it, although I would not describe myself as an American (or a
> Canadian, of course). ... >
I really, really, do not want to get into this parochial political fight. Puerto Ricans are US citizens, they have US passports, and they can travel freely to and from the rest of the US just like any other US citizens.
There are surely some Puerto Ricans who wish it were otherwise, but the facts are what they are. PR is part of NARALO beause PR is part of the U.S., not because of its physical location. Cuba and the Bahamas are closer to the mainland US than PR is, but they're in the LAC region because they're not part of the U.S.
On the other hand, if we're going to call out Puerto Rico separately, we need also call out the US Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guam, Saipan, and perhaps Hawaii, all of which are in NARALO because they're part of the U.S. even though they're physically located in other regions.
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Hi all, On 16/01/2017 10:55, Eduardo Diaz wrote:
I agree with the suggested change by Javier: /"We provide advice that impacts all the North American region, from Canada to the US and Puerto Rico" /(I change the word "our" for "the") */ /* This sentence reads slightly oddly to me. I suggest we add the word 'of' as below:
- /We provide advice that impacts all of the North American region, from Canada to the US and Puerto Rico/ Otherwise, as Leah has already noted, the SF-Bay ISOC Chapter is in agreement with the new terminology. Kind regards, Susannah
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I like it, although I would not describe myself as an American (or a Canadian, of course). I would delete the phrase "We provide advice that impacts all Canadians and Americans" or rephrase it to something integrating the wording in the NARALO website like -We provide advice that impacts all those "located in Canada, the United States or Puerto Rico" or something like "We provide advice that impacts all our North American region, from Canada to the US and Puerto Rico"
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It looks fine! I liked that you included the runnerup slogan in the initial paragraph of the mailcard.
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On Jan 17, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Susannah Gray <susannah.gray@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
On 16/01/2017 10:55, Eduardo Diaz wrote: I agree with the suggested change by Javier: "We provide advice that impacts all the North American region, from Canada to the US and Puerto Rico" (I change the word "our" for "the")
This sentence reads slightly oddly to me. I suggest we add the word 'of' as below:
- We provide advice that impacts all of the North American region, from Canada to the US and Puerto Rico
Otherwise, as Leah has already noted, the SF-Bay ISOC Chapter is in agreement with the new terminology.
Kind regards,
Susannah
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+1 On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 4:09 PM Susannah Gray <susannah.gray@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
On 16/01/2017 10:55, Eduardo Diaz
wrote:
I agree with the suggested change by
Javier:
*"We provide advice that impacts all the North American region, from Canada to the US and Puerto Rico" *(I change the word "our" for "the")
This sentence reads slightly oddly to me. I suggest we add the word
'of' as below:
-
*We provide advice that impacts all of the North American region, from Canada to the US and Puerto Rico*
Otherwise, as Leah has already noted, the SF-Bay ISOC Chapter is in
agreement with the new terminology.
Kind regards,
Susannah
-ed
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 6:06 PM Javier Rua <javrua@gmail.com>
wrote:
I like it, although I would not
describe myself as an American (or a Canadian, of
course). I would delete the phrase "We provide advice that impacts all
Canadians and Americans" or rephrase it to something
integrating the wording in the NARALO website like
-We provide advice that impacts all
those "located in Canada, the United States
or Puerto Rico" or something like
"We provide advice that impacts all
our North American region, from Canada to the US and
Puerto Rico"
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Glenn:
It looks fine! I liked that you
included the runnerup slogan in the initial paragraph
of the mailcard.
Great job!
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On Jan 12, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com>
wrote:
Sorry it was sent
in error
*The SIDE TWO *
*MANY VOICES, ONE INTERNET*
NARALO Is the voice of the
Internet End Users in North America. We
provide advice that impacts all Canadians
and Americans. NARALO is a key part of
ICANN’s multi-stakeholder model. Its members
work on a variety of initiatives such as,
policy advice development, outreach and
engagement, training, capacity building,
technology and accessibility issues. Members
also partner and collaborate with other key
Internet governance stakeholders.
Make
a Difference in how the Internet operates in
North America, Come Join Us and with your
help and engagement we can continue to
improve NARALO and increase our voice within
At Large.
To learn more visit our
website at naralo.org or email us
at naralo-leadership@icann.org
Note: It will have a
NARALO LOGO as a watermark.
Please comment on suggestions or edit
Thanks
G
Glenn
McKnight
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On Thu, Jan 12,
2017 at 1:51 PM, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com>
wrote:
https://community.icann.org/display/NARALO/NARALO+Mailcard+2017
Hi
We need your feedback
on the new NARALO Mailcard
On side one is the
NARALO logo, colour and welcome in three
languages
The reverse side has
the information and call to action
Here is the content
Glenn
McKnight
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participants (12)
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Alfredo Calderon -
Eduardo Diaz -
Evan Leibovitch -
gbruen＠knujon.com -
Glenn McKnight -
Javier Rua -
John R. Levine -
Joly MacFie -
Judith Hellerstein -
Leah Symekher -
Seth M Reiss -
Susannah Gray