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PIR: Why an At-Large Board Member?
by Jonathan Zuck Jan. 10, 2020

Jan. 10, 2020

I recognize it feels natural in our comments/advice to suggest someone from At-Large be on the PIR board but again I feel it prudent to ask, why At-Large? Why wouldn’t we ask that 1/3 of the board members be representatives of 501c(3) non-profits or ASBLs from Brussels? Those same people might be in the At-Large but that wouldn’t be why they are on the board of PIR. Jonathan Zuck | Executive Director | Innovators Network jzuck(a)innovatorsnetwork.org<mailto:jzuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> | O 202.420.7497 | S jvzuck | [cid:image001.png@01D2AEED.C7EA7800]

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Re: [CPWG] PIR: Why an At-Large Board Member?
by Alan Greenberg Jan. 10, 2020

Jan. 10, 2020

I don't think that is the question Jonathan is asking. It is not why WE think we should be there or even why we think we would do a good job. It is why THEY should select us over other possible community representatives? Alan At 09/01/2020 05:36 PM, Seun Ojedeji wrote: Hello Jonathan, all The "why At-Large" in this context can perhaps be likened to what eventually made At-Large to have a single Board member on ICANN Board. If At-Large believes that her voice is important on the "new" PIR decision table, and that it will be through Board representation, I don't see anything wrong with making that clear from the start. Contributing towards getting a generic block of slot with a "later" tag on its allocation won't be strategic IMO Regards Sent from my mobile Kindly excuse brevity and typos On Thu, 9 Jan 2020, 17:14 Jonathan Zuck, < JZuck(a)innovatorsnetwork.org<mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>> wrote: I recognize it feels natural in our comments/advice to suggest someone from At-Large be on the PIR board but again I feel it prudent to ask, why At-Large? Why wouldnâ€™t we ask that 1/3 of the board members be representatives of 501c(3) non-profits or ASBLs from Brussels? Those same people might be in the At-Large but that wouldnâ€™t be why they are on the board of PIR. Jonathan Zuck | Executive Director | Innovators Network jzuck(a)innovatorsnetwork.org<mailto:jzuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> | O 202.420.7497 | S jvzuck | [cid:image001.png@01D2AEED.C7EA7800] _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG(a)icann.org<mailto:CPWG@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. Content-Type: image/png; name="image001.png" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="image001.png" Content-ID: <16f8c6657384cff311> X-Attachment-Id: 16f8c6657384cff311 Content-Type: image/png; name="image001.png" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="image001.png" Content-ID: <> X-Attachment-Id: _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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At-Large Capacity Building Working Group
by ICANN Policy Calendar Jan. 9, 2020

Jan. 9, 2020

**If you require a dial-out or need to state an apology, please contact At-Large staff at staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> with your preferred number.** Dear All, Further to the doodle poll below, the next At-Large Capacity Building Working Group call is scheduled for Monday, 13 January 2020 at 17:00 UTC for 60 minutes. For other times: https://tinyurl.com/r2u9cq4 The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/sgOJBw At-Large Capacity Building wiki workspace: https://community.icann.org/x/1Ic3Ag ADIGO Conference Bridge: English Conference ID: 1638 Spanish Conference ID: 1738 French Conference ID: 1838 Toll-free access number (US and Canada): 800 550 6865 Other toll-free numbers: http://adigo.com/icann/ Zoom Room: https://icann.zoom.us/j/489570300 Meeting ID: 489-570-0300 Real time transcription (RTT) available at (subject to availability): https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net] [streamtext.net]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.streamtext.net_pla…> Thank you. Kind Regards, ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<applewebdata://932FA082-AAF3-456B-A040-A1DAA84DB45D/staff@atlarge.icann.org> Website: atlarge.icann.org<applewebdata://932FA082-AAF3-456B-A040-A1DAA84DB45D/atlarge.icann.org> Facebook: facebook.com/icannatlarge<applewebdata://932FA082-AAF3-456B-A040-A1DAA84DB45D/facebook.com/icannatlar…> Twitter: @ICANNAtLarge<applewebdata://932FA082-AAF3-456B-A040-A1DAA84DB45D/@ICANNAtLarge> ................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... Dear All, Please complete the Doodle poll to schedule the At-Large Capacity Building Working Group Call for the week of 13 January 2020. Doodle: https://doodle.com/poll/unhxpmrm69tzn6g3 I have enabled the time zone so that it can be changed to your zone. This doodle will close on Wednesday, 08 January 2020. Thank you. Kind Regards, Ye?im Nazlar

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At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group Call
by ICANN Policy Calendar Jan. 9, 2020

Jan. 9, 2020

**If you require a dial-out or need to state an apology, please contact At-Large staff at staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> with your preferred number.** Dear All, Further to the doodle poll below, the next At-Large Capacity Building Working Group call is scheduled for Monday, 13 January 2020 at 17:00 UTC for 60 minutes. For other times: https://tinyurl.com/r2u9cq4 The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/sgOJBw At-Large Capacity Building wiki workspace: https://community.icann.org/x/1Ic3Ag ADIGO Conference Bridge: English Conference ID: 1638 Spanish Conference ID: 1738 French Conference ID: 1838 Toll-free access number (US and Canada): 800 550 6865 Other toll-free numbers: http://adigo.com/icann/ Zoom Room: https://icann.zoom.us/j/489570300 Meeting ID: 489-570-0300 Real time transcription (RTT) available at (subject to availability): https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net] [streamtext.net]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.streamtext.net_pla…> Thank you. Kind Regards, ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<applewebdata://932FA082-AAF3-456B-A040-A1DAA84DB45D/staff@atlarge.icann.org> Website: atlarge.icann.org<applewebdata://932FA082-AAF3-456B-A040-A1DAA84DB45D/atlarge.icann.org> Facebook: facebook.com/icannatlarge<applewebdata://932FA082-AAF3-456B-A040-A1DAA84DB45D/facebook.com/icannatlar…> Twitter: @ICANNAtLarge<applewebdata://932FA082-AAF3-456B-A040-A1DAA84DB45D/@ICANNAtLarge> ................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... Dear All, Please complete the Doodle poll to schedule the At-Large Capacity Building Working Group Call for the week of 13 January 2020. Doodle: https://doodle.com/poll/unhxpmrm69tzn6g3 I have enabled the time zone so that it can be changed to your zone. This doodle will close on Wednesday, 08 January 2020. Thank you. Kind Regards, Ye?im Nazlar

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Where's NPOC?
by Jonathan Zuck Jan. 9, 2020

Jan. 9, 2020

Is anyone tracking what NPOC is doing/saying about the PIR sale? We have a lot of folks from non-profits in At-Large but that’s not really At-Large. Should those of use with a non-profit home join the NPOC to help them get some volume and get going on this? I feel like I haven’t heard anything from them. Jonathan Zuck | Executive Director | Innovators Network jzuck(a)innovatorsnetwork.org<mailto:jzuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> | O 202.420.7497 | S jvzuck | [cid:image001.png@01D2AEED.C7EA7800]

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Meeting invitation: At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call on Wednesday, 15 January 2020 at 19:00 UTC
by Michelle DeSmyter Jan. 9, 2020

Jan. 9, 2020

***If you require a dial out or need to state an apology, please contact At-Large staff at staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> with your preferred number*** Dear All, The next At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call is scheduled for Wednesday, 15 January 2020 at 19:00 UTC for 90 mins. For other times: https://tinyurl.com/yf77a84q The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/5wKJBw Zoom Room: https://icann.zoom.us/j/765717566 / Meeting ID: 765-717-566 – Please note, the zoom room link and Meeting ID will remain the same for each weekly meeting. Real time transcription (RTT) available at (subject to availability): https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net] [streamtext.net]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.streamtext.net_pla…> ADIGO Conference Bridge: EN: 1638 ES: 1738 FR: 1838 Toll-free access number (US and Canada): 800 550 6865 Other toll-free numbers: https://www.adigo.com/icann [adigo.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.adigo.com_icann&d=…> At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Wiki Space: https://community.icann.org/x/jYDpB If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> Thank you. Kind regards, At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org [atlarge.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__atlarge.icann.org_&d=D…> Facebook: facebook.com/icann [facebook.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_icann…>atlarge [facebook.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_icann…> Twitter: @ [twitter.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_ICANNAtLar…>ICANNAtLarge [twitter.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_ICANNAtLar…>

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Re: [CPWG] A white knight on the horizon for .ORG?
by Alan Greenberg Jan. 8, 2020

Jan. 8, 2020

I don't see how a proposal to ICANN can imply $ to ISOC. The only way I can interpret this is as Evan has: an outright cancellation of the agreement by ICANN and re-delegate to the new corp. An interesting concept, but if nothing else, the resultant lawsuits would likely to be a bonanza for lawyers... Alan At 08/01/2020 09:25 AM, Evan Leibovitch wrote: >From what I can gather from what's been written so far, they're going to demand ICANN to simply re-delegate the registry to them and leave ISOC with nothing (though the actual proposal to ICANN may be different and indeed include compensation of some sort). Looks like they want to make the case that .ORG is a resource that needs a custodian rather than commodity that can be tossed around at will. It's comprised of an interesting group that includes ICANN's first president and the USG person in charge of handing TLD control to it. - Evan On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 07:05, Jacqueline Morris <jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com<mailto:jam@jacquelinemorris.com> > wrote: Hi Evan Do you know if there is a monetary value on this bid that is public yet? Will it give ISOC the endowment that it is looking for? Jacqueline A. Morris Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and Free. (after Chris Lehmann<http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 3:27 AM Evan Leibovitch <evan(a)telly.org<mailto:evan@telly.org>> wrote: Looks like Esther Dyson and others are forming a co-operative to offer an alternative bid to Ethos: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/07/technology/dot-org-private-equity-battle… It is unfortunate that the proposed alternative is yet another US corporation, though the bulk of .ORG registrants are American so this will likely be unchallenged. Chance of ISOC accepting to even evaluate this alternative bid without pressure is slim given that many deals like Ethos' contain penalties for backing out. But the pressure is certainly there, and not abating. -- Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada @evanleibovitch or @el56 _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG(a)icann.org<mailto:CPWG@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG(a)icann.org<mailto:CPWG@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. -- Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada @evanleibovitch or @el56 _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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A white knight on the horizon for .ORG?
by Evan Leibovitch Jan. 8, 2020

Jan. 8, 2020

Looks like Esther Dyson and others are forming a co-operative to offer an alternative bid to Ethos: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/07/technology/dot-org-private-equity-battle… It is unfortunate that the proposed alternative is yet another US corporation, though the bulk of .ORG registrants are American so this will likely be unchallenged. Chance of ISOC accepting to even evaluate this alternative bid without pressure is slim given that many deals like Ethos' contain penalties for backing out. But the pressure is certainly there, and not abating. -- Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada @evanleibovitch or @el56

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Posted on At-Large Community chat
by Maureen Hilyard Jan. 8, 2020

Jan. 8, 2020

ISOC posted their response to the Wyden letter in a blog post and in a letter to the Senate. It can be seen here, https://www.keypointsabout.org/blog/the-internet-society-pir-and-ethos-resp…

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PIR and Dot Org
by Maureen Hilyard Jan. 8, 2020

Jan. 8, 2020

http://www.circleid.com/posts/20200105_hilyard_has_a_historic_chance_to_act… Well that is certainly forcing our hand to take some action. But with arrows flying in all sorts of directions it has been difficult to know which one to follow, and I note there has been a break in the conversations on this topic. Interesting and very timely that Roberto raised the .org issue again in an earlier email today. I started a response until JZ reminded us that the thread was about .com I agree with Roberto's approach - that we should focus on our role as the voice of At-Large end-users and offer some creative advice on how we might influence the behaviour of PIR and any future decisions they make that will impact on .org end-users. PIR/Ethos already presented a webinar and said all the right things.. but how can we be assured that they will stick to what they said that they would do in the future? Who will monitor this on behalf of ordinary end-users? Who will be represented on the Stewardship Council? At the same time we may also need to advise the ICANN Board about how they might deal with the ICANN-PIR/Ethos contract - especially Roberto's recommendation of some commitment from ICANN that ethical behaviour towards .org end-users will be built into it. We are aware that the Board is looking into every legal issue relating to how they can deal with matters that are being raised by letters that are flowing their way. We don't need to add more of the same. While i think it might be seen to be a simplistic approach, I believe that we should stick to what our job is and focus on advice to the Board and to PIR- but lets try to be creative about how we advise them, looking at the impacts on end-users from all perspectives. My 2c M -

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