September 2014 - ChineseGP - lists.icann.org

CHS,Hans
by ZhangJoe Sept. 2, 2014

Sept. 2, 2014

According to the question raised during the meeting, I found out that there would be s a misunderstanding: CHS,or Hans = simplified Chinese Hanzi only. This is incorrect, since CHS or Hans implies a writing system environment, a script, used mainly in Mainland China, Singapore, which contains Simplified Hanzi plus Stable Hanzi (传承字,like 一二三，上中下，天地人). And, importantly, the stable Hanzi occupy about 60% in daily usage. Hanchuan, you will be appreciated if you forward this message to Prof Kim. Regards, Zhang 发件人: chinesegp-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] 代表 ZhangJoe 发送时间: 2014年9月2日 14:48 收件人: 'Wang Wei'; ChineseGP(a)icann.org 主题: [ChineseGP] Update: Proposed CJK Variants Definition 重要性: 高 Dear Colleagues, According to comment from a Chinese linguist, I add one sentence in Notes: Nevertheless, the variants must have the same pronunciations within one language context. Thanks for your attention, Zhang Zhoucai 发件人: chinesegp-bounces(a)icann.org <mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] 代表 ZhangJoe 发送时间: 2014年9月1日 18:53 收件人: 'Wang Wei'; ChineseGP(a)icann.org <mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org> 主题: [ChineseGP] Proposed CJK Variants Definition 重要性: 高 Dear Colleagues, Enclosed please find the proposed CJK Variants Definition for discussion. Regards, Zhang Zhoucai 发件人: chinesegp-bounces(a)icann.org <mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] 代表 Wang Wei 发送时间: 2014年8月25日 15:32 收件人: ChineseGP(a)icann.org <mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org> 主题: [ChineseGP] Memo of CGP Fortnightly Meeting 21st August Dear colleagues and Hanchuan Thanks for attending the second fortnightly meeting. We need to fulfill the following tasks before the next meeting. 1) Discuss CGP repertoire slimming plan within the CGP and with CDNC. 2) Redefine the “variant”. It would be appreciated that Prof. Zhang give a general and compatible definition of “variant”, which can be well suitable for C, J and K, helping J and K understand the situation better. 3) Provide the final version to IP. 4) Provide some coordination examples on variants mapping to Japan and Korea communities (mainly to J). Qichao and Zhiwei will figure out these examples and let Kenny share it to JGP. Please feel free to let me know if there is anything I forget to note. Regards Wang Wei -----Original Message----- From: chinesegp-bounces(a)icann.org <mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Wang Wei Sent: 08 August 2014 02:46 To: ChineseGP(a)icann.org <mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org> Subject: [ChineseGP] Memo of CGP Fortnightly Meeting 7th August Dear Hanchuan and Colleagues Thank you for attending the meeting. Here are some tasks we need to do before the next fortnightly meeting: 1) Improve the proposal, specify the language, repertoire and etc. (I will send out a updated document next week) 2) Provide some coordination examples on variants mapping to Japan and Korea community, to help all have a better understanding of coordination principles. 3) Select Kenny and other representatives to KGP meeting next Tuesday Please feel free to let me know if there is anything I forget to mention. Regards Wang Wei

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[Variant Mapping] Meeting to clarify variant mapping and coordination between CGP, JGP and KGP
by Han Chuan Lee Sept. 2, 2014

Sept. 2, 2014

Hi all, As requested by Prof Kim and Prof Lee of the KLGP, we are organising a meeting to clarify the variant mapping requirement for the CGP, JGP and KGP. At the same time, this is a good opportunity for the 3 GPs to discuss and agree on the coordination efforts required. Understand that the IGF meeting is being held in Istanbul next week and there are some folks that will be attending the IGF meeting. We are proposing that those who are attending the IGF meeting to meet up and attend this online meeting together, while those who are not in Istanbul will participate remotely. To find a convenient time and date for everyone, please indicate your availability in this doodle pool: http://doodle.com/x4kguant4pn7fg3i before this Thursday 28 Aug 2014. Agenda: 1. Clarification of the variant mapping coordination and agreement between the CGP, JGP and KGP (10 mins by ICANN) 2. Discussion on how the co-ordination work between CGP, JGP and KGP could be carried out to address the variant mapping requirement (40mins) 3. AOB (10mins) Adobeconnect: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/KGP Regards Han Chuan, Lee

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回复：答复: Update: Proposed CJK Variants Definition
by 张老非师 Sept. 2, 2014

Sept. 2, 2014

我初步准备了一个PPT。明早再修改一下。从我客户端不好播放PPT吧？我中午传给你。张老非师从三星移动设备发送 <div>-------- 原始邮件 --------</div><div>发件人： Wang Wei <wangwei(a)cnnic.cn> </div><div>日期:2014-09-02 16:34 (GMT+08:00) </div><div>收件人： 'ZhangJoe' <joezhang43(a)hotmail.com>,ChineseGP(a)icann.org </div><div>主题： [ChineseGP] 答复: Update: Proposed CJK Variants Definition </div><div> </div>Dear Prof. Zhang Could you please make the presentation of this document in the CJK meeting tomorrow ? Regards Wang Wei 发件人: ZhangJoe [mailto:joezhang43@hotmail.com] 发送时间: 2014年9月2日 14:48 收件人: 'Wang Wei'; ChineseGP(a)icann.org 主题: Update: [ChineseGP] Proposed CJK Variants Definition 重要性: 高 Dear Colleagues, According to comment from a Chinese linguist, I add one sentence in Notes: Nevertheless, the variants must have the same pronunciations within one language context. Thanks for your attention, Zhang Zhoucai 发件人: chinesegp-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] 代表 ZhangJoe 发送时间: 2014年9月1日 18:53 收件人: 'Wang Wei'; ChineseGP(a)icann.org 主题: [ChineseGP] Proposed CJK Variants Definition 重要性: 高 Dear Colleagues, Enclosed please find the proposed CJK Variants Definition for discussion. Regards, Zhang Zhoucai 发件人: chinesegp-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] 代表 Wang Wei 发送时间: 2014年8月25日 15:32 收件人: ChineseGP(a)icann.org 主题: [ChineseGP] Memo of CGP Fortnightly Meeting 21st August Dear colleagues and Hanchuan Thanks for attending the second fortnightly meeting. We need to fulfill the following tasks before the next meeting. 1) Discuss CGP repertoire slimming plan within the CGP and with CDNC. 2) Redefine the “variant”. It would be appreciated that Prof. Zhang give a general and compatible definition of “variant”, which can be well suitable for C, J and K, helping J and K understand the situation better. 3) Provide the final version to IP. 4) Provide some coordination examples on variants mapping to Japan and Korea communities (mainly to J). Qichao and Zhiwei will figure out these examples and let Kenny share it to JGP. Please feel free to let me know if there is anything I forget to note. Regards Wang Wei -----Original Message----- From: chinesegp-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Wang Wei Sent: 08 August 2014 02:46 To: ChineseGP(a)icann.org Subject: [ChineseGP] Memo of CGP Fortnightly Meeting 7th August Dear Hanchuan and Colleagues Thank you for attending the meeting. Here are some tasks we need to do before the next fortnightly meeting: 1) Improve the proposal, specify the language, repertoire and etc. (I will send out a updated document next week) 2) Provide some coordination examples on variants mapping to Japan and Korea community, to help all have a better understanding of coordination principles. 3) Select Kenny and other representatives to KGP meeting next Tuesday Please feel free to let me know if there is anything I forget to mention. Regards Wang Wei

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Variant Mapping Issues and Coordination between the C, J and K Generation Panels
by Han Chuan Lee Sept. 2, 2014

Sept. 2, 2014

Hi all, Based on the results of the poll, the meeting is scheduled on 3 Sep 2014 (Wed) at 1300hrs (UTC+8). The meeting will be carried out over Adobeconnect (https://icann.adobeconnect.com/KGP) and there will be NO Adigo audio bridge. Regards Han Chuan, Lee

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Update: Proposed CJK Variants Definition
by ZhangJoe Sept. 2, 2014

Sept. 2, 2014

Dear Colleagues, According to comment from a Chinese linguist, I add one sentence in Notes: Nevertheless, the variants must have the same pronunciations within one language context. Thanks for your attention, Zhang Zhoucai 发件人: chinesegp-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] 代表 ZhangJoe 发送时间: 2014年9月1日 18:53 收件人: 'Wang Wei'; ChineseGP(a)icann.org 主题: [ChineseGP] Proposed CJK Variants Definition 重要性: 高 Dear Colleagues, Enclosed please find the proposed CJK Variants Definition for discussion. Regards, Zhang Zhoucai 发件人: chinesegp-bounces(a)icann.org <mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] 代表 Wang Wei 发送时间: 2014年8月25日 15:32 收件人: ChineseGP(a)icann.org <mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org> 主题: [ChineseGP] Memo of CGP Fortnightly Meeting 21st August Dear colleagues and Hanchuan Thanks for attending the second fortnightly meeting. We need to fulfill the following tasks before the next meeting. 1) Discuss CGP repertoire slimming plan within the CGP and with CDNC. 2) Redefine the “variant”. It would be appreciated that Prof. Zhang give a general and compatible definition of “variant”, which can be well suitable for C, J and K, helping J and K understand the situation better. 3) Provide the final version to IP. 4) Provide some coordination examples on variants mapping to Japan and Korea communities (mainly to J). Qichao and Zhiwei will figure out these examples and let Kenny share it to JGP. Please feel free to let me know if there is anything I forget to note. Regards Wang Wei -----Original Message----- From: chinesegp-bounces(a)icann.org <mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Wang Wei Sent: 08 August 2014 02:46 To: ChineseGP(a)icann.org <mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org> Subject: [ChineseGP] Memo of CGP Fortnightly Meeting 7th August Dear Hanchuan and Colleagues Thank you for attending the meeting. Here are some tasks we need to do before the next fortnightly meeting: 1) Improve the proposal, specify the language, repertoire and etc. (I will send out a updated document next week) 2) Provide some coordination examples on variants mapping to Japan and Korea community, to help all have a better understanding of coordination principles. 3) Select Kenny and other representatives to KGP meeting next Tuesday Please feel free to let me know if there is anything I forget to mention. Regards Wang Wei

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Further Update？ Update: Proposed CJK Variants Definition
by ZhangJoe Sept. 2, 2014

Sept. 2, 2014

To more clearly describe the CJK Variants, should we set a criteria as follows: CJK Variants must be derived from an identical origin. ( a cognate character ) See the attached chart. Zhang Zhoucai 发件人: chinesegp-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] 代表 ZhangJoe 发送时间: 2014年9月2日 14:48 收件人: 'Wang Wei'; ChineseGP(a)icann.org 主题: [ChineseGP] Update: Proposed CJK Variants Definition 重要性: 高 Dear Colleagues, According to comment from a Chinese linguist, I add one sentence in Notes: Nevertheless, the variants must have the same pronunciations within one language context. Thanks for your attention, Zhang Zhoucai 发件人: chinesegp-bounces(a)icann.org <mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] 代表 ZhangJoe 发送时间: 2014年9月1日 18:53 收件人: 'Wang Wei'; ChineseGP(a)icann.org <mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org> 主题: [ChineseGP] Proposed CJK Variants Definition 重要性: 高 Dear Colleagues, Enclosed please find the proposed CJK Variants Definition for discussion. Regards, Zhang Zhoucai 发件人: chinesegp-bounces(a)icann.org <mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] 代表 Wang Wei 发送时间: 2014年8月25日 15:32 收件人: ChineseGP(a)icann.org <mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org> 主题: [ChineseGP] Memo of CGP Fortnightly Meeting 21st August Dear colleagues and Hanchuan Thanks for attending the second fortnightly meeting. We need to fulfill the following tasks before the next meeting. 1) Discuss CGP repertoire slimming plan within the CGP and with CDNC. 2) Redefine the “variant”. It would be appreciated that Prof. Zhang give a general and compatible definition of “variant”, which can be well suitable for C, J and K, helping J and K understand the situation better. 3) Provide the final version to IP. 4) Provide some coordination examples on variants mapping to Japan and Korea communities (mainly to J). Qichao and Zhiwei will figure out these examples and let Kenny share it to JGP. Please feel free to let me know if there is anything I forget to note. Regards Wang Wei -----Original Message----- From: chinesegp-bounces(a)icann.org <mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Wang Wei Sent: 08 August 2014 02:46 To: ChineseGP(a)icann.org <mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org> Subject: [ChineseGP] Memo of CGP Fortnightly Meeting 7th August Dear Hanchuan and Colleagues Thank you for attending the meeting. Here are some tasks we need to do before the next fortnightly meeting: 1) Improve the proposal, specify the language, repertoire and etc. (I will send out a updated document next week) 2) Provide some coordination examples on variants mapping to Japan and Korea community, to help all have a better understanding of coordination principles. 3) Select Kenny and other representatives to KGP meeting next Tuesday Please feel free to let me know if there is anything I forget to mention. Regards Wang Wei

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Proposed CJK Variants Definition
by ZhangJoe Sept. 1, 2014

Sept. 1, 2014

Dear Colleagues, Enclosed please find the proposed CJK Variants Definition for discussion. Regards, Zhang Zhoucai 发件人: chinesegp-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] 代表 Wang Wei 发送时间: 2014年8月25日 15:32 收件人: ChineseGP(a)icann.org 主题: [ChineseGP] Memo of CGP Fortnightly Meeting 21st August Dear colleagues and Hanchuan Thanks for attending the second fortnightly meeting. We need to fulfill the following tasks before the next meeting. 1) Discuss CGP repertoire slimming plan within the CGP and with CDNC. 2) Redefine the “variant”. It would be appreciated that Prof. Zhang give a general and compatible definition of “variant”, which can be well suitable for C, J and K, helping J and K understand the situation better. 3) Provide the final version to IP. 4) Provide some coordination examples on variants mapping to Japan and Korea communities (mainly to J). Qichao and Zhiwei will figure out these examples and let Kenny share it to JGP. Please feel free to let me know if there is anything I forget to note. Regards Wang Wei -----Original Message----- From: chinesegp-bounces(a)icann.org <mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:chinesegp-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Wang Wei Sent: 08 August 2014 02:46 To: ChineseGP(a)icann.org <mailto:ChineseGP@icann.org> Subject: [ChineseGP] Memo of CGP Fortnightly Meeting 7th August Dear Hanchuan and Colleagues Thank you for attending the meeting. Here are some tasks we need to do before the next fortnightly meeting: 1) Improve the proposal, specify the language, repertoire and etc. (I will send out a updated document next week) 2) Provide some coordination examples on variants mapping to Japan and Korea community, to help all have a better understanding of coordination principles. 3) Select Kenny and other representatives to KGP meeting next Tuesday Please feel free to let me know if there is anything I forget to mention. Regards Wang Wei

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