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NTEN .ORG Call & My Evolving Thoughts on the PIR Pending Sale
by Michael Palage Dec. 6, 2019

Dec. 6, 2019

Hello All, I would encourage everyone to listen to the NTEN recording on the pending PIR sale to Ethos. It was a very informative session. Here are my two cents for what it is worth. I think Jon and the Ethos folks did a fairly reasonable job fielding some very pointed questions, however, I was less impressed with Andrew Sullivan's performance for the reasons cited below. I know a lot of people are passionate about the future stewardship of .ORG. I have to admit I was a bit surprised and disappointed when I heard the news, especially having worked with ISOC as part of the Afilias team back in 2002. However, the lawyer in me is trained to remove emotion and look at the legal and economic basis of the transaction. I original took no position on the pending sale until the sale price was made public. Non Profits such as ISOC buy and sell assets all the time, although the circumstances of how ISOC/PIR prevailed in the original .ORG RFP is still something that I am struggling with. The sale for over a billion makes economic sense, as a 1 billion dollar trust should produce on average return of 50 million dollars a year which was what PIR was providing to ISOC. Given some of the uncertainty about the future of the gTLD market, e.g. declining .ORG sales, increased legal and regulatory compliance costs. I can see why the ISOC trustees would have approved the sale and why it would likely pass legal review. What does cause me some concern is the process of how ISOC went about this sale, and this is where I was disappointed by Andrew's responses to some of the pointed questions asked by the non profit legal types. He repeated referenced the ISOC "trustees" and one time referenced that is why we call them trustees. Hopefully after this deal is concluded, ISOC could engage an external professional (this time hopefully someone from the non-profit sector - any suggestions NTEN) to provide a public accountability of what really happened. There was several references to NDAs, perhaps after the deal is concluded there can be more transparency if the parties agree to selectively waive parts of the NDA that seemed to prevent the public consultation that most feel is lacking. And if appropriate, suitable changes can me made to prevent that from happening again in the future. I think the ISOC Trustees owe that to its community which I have been part of for a while. Back to the performance of Jon (PIR) and Ethos. Jon could someone please work with Erik and tell him how "technical glitch" is a dirty word from the last round of new gTLDs. While it seems that Ethos was receptive to some type of price restraints as opposed to the other bidder(s), the key thing that stuck out to me was Erik's repeated use of the term we intend to comply with the "spirit" of the price increase. The repeated use of the term "spirit" was very notable. As a lawyer I always like to argue compliance with both the ‘spirit” and the “letter.” So taking off my engineer and lawyer hat for a minute, this is what I think this means. Listed below is a table that represents what compliance with the “letter” and “spirit” of the agreement if PIR was permitted to raise prices 10% each year. Year 1 Year 2 Year 3 Year 4 Year 5 Year 6 Year 7 Year 8 Year 9 Year 10 9.68 10.648 11.7128 12.88408 14.17249 15.58974 17.14871 18.86358 20.74994 22.82493 25.10743 Now if Ethos wanted to comply with the “spirit” of the agreement they could raise the prices of a .ORG domain name to $25 and then state we will not raise prices for the remaining term of this Registry Agreement. Now I do not think Ethos which has been incredibly savvy to date that would do that, and I am sure Jon and the PIR staff would advise against the suicide nature of that move. However, a price increase is coming. If I was in Ethos’ shoes I would go with $14.50 price increase, just under a 50% price increase. Then in a couple of years as the next round of new gTLD are rolling out, I would bump the price again upwards to $20 based upon the dynamics of the first increase. Ethos is not going to run into the ground an asset they have agreed to purchase for over a billion dollars. Now while this will upset a lot of people, the economic reality is a newly formed non profit is not going to be priced out of doing good work when paying for a .ORG domain name in the $20 retail price range, versus $15 today. In connection with existing non-profits, the ability to lock in at today’s prices before the PIR price increase for a total of ten years is another perhaps more important safeguard for existing non-profits using an .ORG domain. So the issue that I am still struggling and which I hope Lyon and the other ICANN Board members will focus on is the following. In the current baseline registry agreement, Section 1.3. (a)(i) states in relevant part that “ Registry Operator represents and warrants to ICANN as follows: all material information provided and statements made in the registry TLD application, and statements made in writing during the negotiation of this Agreement, were true and correct in all material respects at the time made, and such information or statements continue to be true and correct in all material respects as of the Effective Date except as otherwise previously disclosed in writing by Registry Operator to ICANN.” Now when PIR executed their latest agreement, there was an addendum that removed the reference to the “application” and instead substituted representations made during the current negotiation, see https://www.icann.org/sites/default/files/tlds/org/org-agmt-addendum-html-3… This is what still gives me pause. I personally view TLDs as global infrastructure and I believe there are certain responsibilities that must be followed when operating this important critical infrastructure. To be clear, I am not opposed to a Registry Operator changing a business plan based upon representations made 17 years ago. In fact ICANN has already approved the ability of a Registry Operator to make changes to representations made in Specification 12, and ICANN is currently evaluating the ability for Registry Operators to make changes to their representations made in Specification 11. So I recognize and support the ability of a business to evolve/innovate. When you look at the .INFO and .BIZ Registry Agreements which have a similar addendum, I think there is one major difference from .ORG. Afilias and Neustar literally built their respective TLD operations from the ground up, as opposed to PIR which was rewarded an installed user base of 2 million plus registrations, PLUS a 5 million dollar grant from VeriSign based upon them being a non-profit. Now on the NTEN phone call today Ethos and PIR made repeated references about staying true to the operation of the .ORG. I think the sweat spot that Ethos will have to find with the help of Jon and the PIR staff is what if any of the representations they have been making publicly are they willing to hard code into Specification 11 via an amendment. This is where the rubber will hit the road in my opinion. Hopefully the ICANN Board will look more closely at how they go about ensuring that representations made by original TLD applicants are not forgotten when the Registry Agreement is transferred to an new entity, or at the time of renewal. Please note approximately 1,000 plus registry agreements with that language are coming due in the next couple of years. Will ICANN be giving them a free pass to walk away form the representations they made or will they have a predicable process to provide trust and predictability to the Internet community as well as the Registry Operators. I actually have some additional thoughts but those will have to wait until after the holiday season. Hopefully people found this post insightful, now off to watch Thursday night football where I hope the Cowboys lose to the Bears 😊 Best regards, Michael Palage

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Some relevant stats on .ORG
by John McCormac Dec. 5, 2019

Dec. 5, 2019

Just to put the usage of .ORG in some kind of perspective, these are the October 2019 web usage survey results for COM/NET/ORG/BIZ/INFO and the .ORG by country of registrar percentages. The web usage surveys where statistical surveys for the Domnomics book. The .COM survey was on 1,500,000 domain names and the others were on 150,000 each. gtld - Content - Templated Content - Redirects - No Content com: 14.82% - 27.62% - 27.20% - 30.37% net: 14.29% - 23.22% - 25.30% - 37.30% org: 14.58% - 24.50% - 30.51% - 30.41% biz: 11.63% - 21.18% - 24.24% - 42.95% info: 9.53% - 29.31% - 26.21% - 34.96% Templated content is PPC landers, for-sale pages and affiliate landers. No Content is holding pages, forbidden/not found pages, unavailable pages, no response websites and domain names without websites. They are simplified categories from the 28 that are used in the surveys. The HTTPS redirects and Internal Redirects (included in the redirects category above) were: gTLD - HTTPS - Internal com: 10.06% - 5.29% net: 6.67% - 4.20% org: 8.89% - 5.54% biz: 4.69% - 3.40% info: 4.84% - 4.39% In terms of HTTPS redirects, the .ORG is closest to .COM. HTTPS is a good indicator of how a gTLD is developing. There has been a shift to HTTPS over the last five years. The top three countries in .ORG by country of registrar are: USA 66.25% - Germany 8.42% - Canada 6.29% China is the #2 country in .COM and .NET. The Chinese market has been targeted by registries that wish the grow their zone files with discounting offers. This creates a boom and bust cycle in the discounting gTLD as many of these discounted registrations don't renew at full fee and are deleted. Many of the .ORG registrants in developing markets outsource their registrations to countries with more mature Internet hosting. Registrars like Godaddy and Tucows have large numbers of hosters/resellers that use their services. This is also a factor in countries where the ccTLD is the dominant TLD. Most webhosting companies don't bother with becoming an ICANN accredited registrar as the costs and effort don't justify it. Instead, they become ccTLD registrars once their number of hosted domain names justifies it. The gTLDs are actually either plateaued or in decline in some country level markets as the new registrations momentum is in the ccTLDs rather than the gTLDs. Regards...jmcc -- ********************************************************** John McCormac * e-mail: jmcc(a)hosterstats.com MC2 * web: http://www.hosterstats.com/ 22 Viewmount * Domain Registrations Statistics Waterford * Domnomics - the business of domain names Ireland * https://amzn.to/2OPtEIO IE * Skype: hosterstats.com **********************************************************

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Noted as ICANN67 At-Large topic
by Gisella Gruber Dec. 5, 2019

Dec. 5, 2019

Dear Roberto, We have noted your topic and will add this to the list for discussion on our ICANN67 PC calls. Thank you for your input! kind regards Gisella From: CPWG <cpwg-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of "Roberto Gaetano (gmail)" <mail.roberto.gaetano(a)gmail.com> Date: Thursday, 5 December 2019 at 12:44 To: Natalia Filina <filinafilka(a)gmail.com> Cc: Daniel Nanghaka <dndannang(a)gmail.com>, "cpwg(a)icann.org" <cpwg(a)icann.org>, "icann67-pc(a)icann.org" <icann67-pc(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [CPWG] [Icann67-pc] DEADLINE REMINDER! Topic Proposals Due Wed, 4 December If it is not too late, I would like to remind that I have asked for ICANN-66 a session on the different experiences about individuals in different regions. This has not been possible, so I would like to suggest it again for the next meeting. Let me also support Javier’s proposal. As a personal comment, I remember that in Montreal ISOC invited us to a lunch where the issue of extraterritoriality was discussed. I believe that extraterritoriality does not apply only to laws of a country that create situations outside its borders, but also to behaviour of private corporations that end up in being a de facto law. Cheers, Roberto On 05.12.2019, at 07:39, Natalia Filina <filinafilka(a)gmail.com<mailto:filinafilka@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear Gisella, Very sorry for the delay. I propose sessions: DoH (+1 to Holly) ALSs mobilization At-Large+RIRs+ALSs (collaboration and future perspectives) MSM Sincerely, Natalia Filina Secretary of EURALO https://atlarge.icann.org/alses/euralo [atlarge.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__atlarge.icann.org_alse…> https://individualusers.org/ [individualusers.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__individualusers.org_&d…> Member of ALAC Subcommittee on Outreach and Engagement Officer of SIG IoT (ISOC) +7 906 722 54 61 Moscow, Russian Federation чт, 5 дек. 2019 г. в 08:15, DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang(a)gmail.com<mailto:dndannang@gmail.com>>: I propose having a face 2 face session for O&E SC On Tue, Dec 3, 2019, 5:57 PM Gisella Gruber <Gisella.Gruber(a)icann.org<mailto:Gisella.Gruber@icann.org>> wrote: Dear All, A friendly reminder that topic proposals for ICANN67 are due by this Wednesday, 4 December 2019 at 23:00 UTC. Could you kindly send through topics via email in order to coordinate submission, should we so wish to do. Thank you. Kind regards, Gisella From: registration-issues-wg <registration-issues-wg-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:registration-issues-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard(a)gmail.com<mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com>> Date: Monday, 2 December 2019 at 22:31 To: "cpwg(a)icann.org<mailto:cpwg@icann.org>" <cpwg(a)icann.org<mailto:cpwg@icann.org>> Subject: [registration-issues-wg] [CPWG] Fwd: [SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning] DEADLINE REMINDER! Topic Proposals Due Wed, 4 December For your discussion and contribution to the plenary session topics if you have one to raise for ICANN67 ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Tanzanica S. King <tanzanica.king(a)icann.org<mailto:tanzanica.king@icann.org>> Date: Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 8:59 AM Subject: [SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning] DEADLINE REMINDER! 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NYTimes: The .Org Mirage
by Carlton Samuels Dec. 5, 2019

Dec. 5, 2019

Some other view that you might find mildly interesting. ‐-------------------- The .Org Mirage https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/05/opinion/dot-org-domain.html Carlton

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Meeting invitation: At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call on Wednesday, 11 December 2019 at 13:00 UTC
by ICANN At-Large Staff Dec. 5, 2019

Dec. 5, 2019

Dear All, The next At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call is scheduled for Wednesday, 11 December 2019 at 13:00 UTC for 90 mins. For other times: https://tinyurl.com/vvvlx22 The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/wgJhBw Zoom Room: https://icann.zoom.us/j/765717566 / Meeting ID: 765-717-566 – Please note, the zoom room link and Meeting ID will remain the same for each weekly meeting. Real time transcription (RTT) available at (subject to availability): https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net] [streamtext.net]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.streamtext.net_pla…> ADIGO Conference Bridge: EN: 1638 ES: 1738 Toll-free access number (US and Canada): 800 550 6865 Other toll-free numbers: https://www.adigo.com/icann [adigo.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.adigo.com_icann&d=…> At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Wiki Space: https://community.icann.org/x/jYDpB If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> Thank you. Kind regards, At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org [atlarge.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__atlarge.icann.org_&d=D…> Facebook: facebook.com/icann [facebook.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_icann…>atlarge [facebook.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_icann…> Twitter: @ [twitter.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_ICANNAtLar…>ICANNAtLarge [twitter.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_ICANNAtLar…>

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Subsequent Procedures: Request for reactions to letter by GAC Chair to SubPro PDP WG Co-Chairs relaying GAC input on the scope of upcoming SubPro public comment
by Justine Chew Dec. 5, 2019

Dec. 5, 2019

Dear all, RE:*Letter from the GAC Chair, Manal Ismail, on behalf of GAC Membership: GAC Input on Scope of Upcoming New gTLDs Subsequent Procedures PDP WG Public Comment <https://gac.icann.org/contentMigrated/gac-input-on-scope-of-upcoming-new-gt…>* I had tabled for discussion at yesterday's (27 Nov) CPWG call the above-referenced correspondence from the GAC Chair to the Subsequent Procedures PDP WG Co-Chairs which relayed GAC's input on the scope of the upcoming (additional) call for public comments to recommendations (whether preliminary or not) of the SubPro PDP WG. However, as I was otherwise detained, I was unable to make the said CPWG call and am now taking a remedial step to initiate the intended discussion. *Context* SubPro PDP WG is close to completing its review of public comments to its Initial Report of 2018, although some work is ongoing in respect of certain topics which have raised new ideas and are likely to lead to significant changes for subsequent procedures (IMO). Among others, one key question that *SubPro PDP WG is determining is, in basic terms, whether [A] to confine the additional call for public comments to preliminary recommendations (or questions) relating to those topics which SubPro PDP WG Leadership opines were not put out for Community input in earlier calls for public comments.* This decision is still pending and debate among members of the SubPro PDP WG on this matter is ongoing, *with an alternative being proposed, which is [B] to put, again in basic terms, a version of a "draft Final Report" with recommendations in its entirety, out for public comment*. In that scenario the document would not be "final" in form, of course. If I may abbreviate hereon, the rationale for [A] limiting the scope of what would be put out for public comment centres around the elements of (1) duplicity - we have already asked for community input on much of the WG's earlier work; (2) public comment fatigue; and (3) pressure to complete the WG's work within an already elongated timeline. While the arguments put forth for [B] putting a report in its entirety out for comment revolve around (1) keeping open opportunity for broad-based indirect participation by the Community; (2) enabling the Community to better understand and appreciate crucial connections between topics which would otherwise be effectively severed, ie. "allow Community to see the whole picture because changes to one part of the picture might affect perspectives to other parts of the picture"; (3) this is needed precursor work to better facilitate the goal of Community-wide accepted Final Report recommendations. *Request for Reactions* The afore-linked letter from the GAC Chair sets out the GAC's reaction to this question. I invite feedback, *especially from At-Large colleagues active on the SubPro PDP WG*, on whether At-Large/ALAC should also react to this question, and if yes, how so. Discussion on this list can be expected to be taken up at a subsequent CPWG call. Thank you, *Justine Chew* At-Large/ALAC liaison for Subsequent Procedures ALAC Member -----

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DEADLINE REMINDER! Topic Proposals Due Wed, 4 December
by Gisella Gruber Dec. 5, 2019

Dec. 5, 2019

Dear All, A friendly reminder that topic proposals for ICANN67 are due by this Wednesday, 4 December 2019 at 23:00 UTC. Could you kindly send through topics via email in order to coordinate submission, should we so wish to do. Thank you. Kind regards, Gisella From: registration-issues-wg <registration-issues-wg-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard(a)gmail.com> Date: Monday, 2 December 2019 at 22:31 To: "cpwg(a)icann.org" <cpwg(a)icann.org> Subject: [registration-issues-wg] [CPWG] Fwd: [SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning] DEADLINE REMINDER! Topic Proposals Due Wed, 4 December For your discussion and contribution to the plenary session topics if you have one to raise for ICANN67 ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Tanzanica S. King <tanzanica.king(a)icann.org<mailto:tanzanica.king@icann.org>> Date: Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 8:59 AM Subject: [SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning] DEADLINE REMINDER! Topic Proposals Due Wed, 4 December To: SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning <soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning(a)icann.org<mailto:soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning@icann.org>> Dear Community Leaders: A friendly reminder that topic proposals for ICANN67 are due by this Wednesday, 4 December 2019 at 23:00 UTC. Please submit your proposals to the Plenary Topic Proposal Form [icann.wufoo.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__icann.wufoo.com_forms_…> as soon as possible. During the Kickoff in Montréal, you identified the following potential topics for future plenary sessions: * DNS and the Internet of Things (IoT) * The DNS Marketplace * Innovation in the DNS Please note that a form must be submitted for each topic to be considered. Upcoming Production Dates 4 December Plenary Topic Proposals Due 5 December Production Call 1: Discussion of Plenary Topics 5-12 December Further discussion via email and final selection of topics 13 December Final Topics/Block Schedule Posted 13-23 December Schedule Planning 2 January Session Request Submissions Open (SO/AC Requests Only) Best regards, Tanzanica _______________________________________________ Tanzanica S. King Sr. Manager, Meeting Strategy and Design ICANN Office +1 310 301 5800 Mobile +1 310 995 3038 www.icann.org<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.icann.org&d=DwMGaQ&…> ICANN Community Wiki Pages: Scheduling Resources and Links<https://community.icann.org/x/oq2jBg> Comprehensive List of Plenary Session Topics<https://community.icann.org/x/fJMzBw> _______________________________________________ SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning mailing list SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning(a)icann.org<mailto:SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy [icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_privacy_…>) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos [icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_privacy_…>). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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Follow-Up from Yesterday's Call
by Michael Palage Dec. 5, 2019

Dec. 5, 2019

Hello All, I just wanted to thank Jonathan for moderating yesterday's call in his typical professional manner, especially given the deeply held and passionate views of some of the attendees. In connection with some of the other work I do in the non-profit community, I received this email yesterday about a call about .ORG in which it appears that PIR and Ethos Capital representative will be participating. Did ALAC extend an invitation to PIR and Ethos Capital in connection with yesterday's call? Perhaps those with more direct ties to the non-profit community may find this of benefit. Best regards, Michael From: Amy Sample Ward, NTEN <savedotorg(a)nten.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2019 8:28 PM To: michael(a)palage.com Subject: You're invited to a call to #SaveDotOrg Save the date: December 5 at 12 Pacific <https://www.informz.net/admin31/images/spacer.gif> <http://NTEN2.informz.net/z/cjUucD9taT0yODA1NzcxJnA9MSZ1PTM5ODM4ODAzNCZsaT0y MTM1MTc1MA/index.html> <https://www.informz.net/admin31/images/spacer.gif> <https://www.informz.net/admin31/images/spacer.gif> Hi Michael, <http://NTEN2.informz.net/z/cjUucD9taT0yODA1NzcxJnA9MSZ1PTM5ODM4ODAzNCZsaT0y MTM1MTc1MQ/index.html> I want to make sure you know about a community call NTEN is hosting this Thursday, December 5, at noon Pacific. Joining us will be the Electronic Frontier Foundation, The National Council of Nonprofits, and Internet Society chapter leaders, as well as Jon Nevett from Public Interest Registry, and Erik Brooks and Nora Abusitta from Ethos Capital. 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Letter to Mozilla Foundation to ICANN Board re:Transfer of .ORG Registry Operations
by Dev Anand Teelucksingh Dec. 5, 2019

Dec. 5, 2019

https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/surman-to-marby-03dec1…

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Fwd: [SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning] Proposed Topic for ICANN67: DNS and IoT
by Maureen Hilyard Dec. 5, 2019

Dec. 5, 2019

FYI - first proposal in for a plenary topic for Cancun ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Tanzanica S. King <tanzanica.king(a)icann.org> Date: Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 7:19 AM Subject: [SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning] Proposed Topic for ICANN67: DNS and IoT To: SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning < soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning(a)icann.org> The first proposed topic for ICANN67 is below for your review and comment. *Proposed Session Title * * *The DNS and the IoT: opportunities, risks, and challenges <https://icann.wufoo.com/reports/icann67-plenary-session-topic-proposals/>* *Group/Affiliation **** ccNSO *Contact Name **** Barbara Povse *Email **** barbara.povse(a)register.si *Brief Description (max 250 words) **** “The DNS and the IoT: opportunities, risks, and challenges” is a proposed high-interest session at ICANN67 that enables community members to learn and advance their thinking on: (1) the opportunities, risks, and challenges resulting from the interaction of the DNS and the IoT and (2) the potential role of ICANN and the ICANN community in this space. *Rationale/Desired Outcomes **** The Internet of Things (IoT) promises to make our lives easier and our societies safer, smarter, and more sustainable through tens of billions of connected devices that passively and autonomously sense and act upon our physical environment [1]. While this makes the IoT vastly different from traditional interactive Internet applications like email and web browsing, many IoT devices will use the Domain Name System (DNS) to locate the remote services they need, for example to offload the analysis of sensor data [2]. The SSAC recently published SAC105 [3], a report that discusses opportunities, risks, and challenges of the interaction between the DNS and the IoT. The proposed high-interest session at ICANN67 would give further substance to the dialogue that SAC105 aims to trigger and facilitate, specifically by enabling community members from all constituencies to discuss the topic with subject matter experts (e.g., from the DNS, IoT, and ISP communities) as well as with each other. The session would be a follow-up of the ccNSO session on SAC105 at the Montreal meeting, which had a particular focus on ccTLDs. The DNS-and-the-IoT session at ICANN67 is relevant in light of ICANN’s 2021-2025 strategic plan [4], which includes the strategic goal to “Improve assessment of and responsiveness to new technologies which impact the security, stability, and resiliency of the Internet’s unique identifier systems by greater engagement with relevant parties.” Learning goals (desired outcome) --------------------------------------------- At the end of the session, ICANN community members will: • Better understand how the IoT differs from traditional interactive Internet applications and how it uses the DNS and domain names • Better understand how DNS and IoT players think of the interaction between their two ecosystems in terms of opportunities, risks, and challenges • Have acquired building blocks to advance their thinking on the role that the ICANN community could potentially play in this space *Session Format **** 1. Introduction (session chair, 15 minutes): a. Rationale and desired outcome of the session b. Explain SAC105 model of the IoT and how IoT deployments use the DNS c. Live demo to illustrate these interactions (using the SPIN IoT visualizer) 2. Sharing perspectives (panellists, 30 minutes): presentations on opportunities, risks, and challenges from different perspectives, in particular: a. DNS operators b. IoT device manufacturers c. ISPs/network operators 3. Interactive discussion and Q&A (45 minutes) *Session Leaders/Facilitators **** We expect 4 people on the panel: a session chair to provide a general introduction and 3 subject matter experts (a DNS operator, an IoT device manufacturer, and an ISP/network operator). We will ask other relevant experts to respond from the audience. The session chair will introduce both the panellists as well as the experts in the audience. Table 1 provides an overview of the relevant roles for the session, potential candidates, and if they’re on the panel (P) or in the audience (A). Table 1. Session roles, potential candidates, and their constituencies. Session role Potential candidates ICANN constituency --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Session chair (P) Cristian Hesselman (.nl) SSAC, ccNSO DNS operator (P) Jacques Latour (.ca) SSAC, ccNSO ISP/network operator (P) Lise Fuhr (ETNO) - IoT device manufacturer (P) Howard Benn (ETSI, Samsung) Tech Liaisons Group Resolver operator (A) Warren Kumari (Google) SSAC DNS software developer (A)Ondrej Filip (.cz) SSAC, ccNSO IoT software/OS developer (A) TBD - Standardization/policy body (A) TBD - Government (A) TBD GAC Research (A) KC Claffy (CAIDA) SSAC *Community Interest **** We expect a significant interest from the community based on the talk at the ccNSO session at ICANN66. Also, we previously received positive responses from the ALAC on SAC105, although we expect that only a few people actually read the report. 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