- CPWG - lists.icann.org

REMINDER / Meeting invitation: At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call on Wednesday, 04 December 2019 at 20:00 UTC
by ICANN At-Large Staff Dec. 4, 2019

Dec. 4, 2019

Dear All, The next At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call is scheduled for Wednesday, 04 December 2019 at 20:00 UTC for 90 mins. For other times: https://tinyurl.com/udrvpdb The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/6JgzBw Zoom Room: https://icann.zoom.us/j/765717566 / Meeting ID: 765-717-566 – Please note, the zoom room link and Meeting ID will remain the same for each weekly meeting. Real time transcription (RTT) available at (subject to availability): https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net] [streamtext.net]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.streamtext.net_pla…> ADIGO Conference Bridge: EN: 3535 ES: 1738 Toll-free access number (US and Canada): 800 550 6865 Other toll-free numbers: https://www.adigo.com/icann [adigo.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.adigo.com_icann&d=…> At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Wiki Space: https://community.icann.org/x/jYDpB If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> Thank you. Kind regards, At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org [atlarge.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__atlarge.icann.org_&d=D…> Facebook: facebook.com/icann [facebook.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_icann…>atlarge [facebook.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_icann…> Twitter: @ [twitter.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_ICANNAtLar…>ICANNAtLarge [twitter.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_ICANNAtLar…>

2 1

Some thoughts on the .ORG and yesterday's call
by John McCormac Dec. 4, 2019

Dec. 4, 2019

On the call, the position of .ORG as the public interest gTLD was made clear. But its position as the gTLD of choice for non-profit organisations and other do-gooder organisations is a very fragile one when it comes to the position of its registrants. I wrote a book on domain name statistics, gTLD geography and web usage. (Domnomics - the business of domain names). The first few chapters are free to read on the "Look Inside" link on the book's Amazon page. They cover the horror stories, with numbers, of how .EU was plundered and how Domain Tasting completely destabilised the gTLD market and led to the rise of the ccTLDs. In the chat on the call, I made the point about the danger of a Scorpion And The Frog situation arising. Both the .EU situation and the Domain Tasting situation arose because those tasked with creating the regulations did not appreciate the ruthlessness of the domain name industry when it comes to making money. Safeguards have to be in place for the registrants and community oversight may be problematic. The shift from non-profit to for-profit seems to be the major problem but most registrants will be oblivious until the price increases follow. The worst case is that the whole thing gains media traction and causes registrants to consider rebranding from .ORG to their local ccTLDs. It might even give .US ccTLD a boost. The web usage surveys already show this kind of redirect happening in the gTLD. The .ORG isn't a single set of non-profit registrants. It has a strong brand protection element where businesses registered their .ORG at the same time they were registering their .COM and .NET domain names. It also has a speculative element. The danger for .ORG is that its position as a special kind of gTLD is extremely fragile. The bulk of registrations in the gTLD are on US registrars. The market momentum has been shifting to ccTLDs over the past few years and non-profits that operate at a country level are now using local ccTLDs rather than their .ORG. The decision by PIR to stop volume discounting in 2018 has improved the overall quality of the gTLD. The problem for .ORG is that the bad publicity will affect the registrations and renewals. The current renewal rates for .ORG are quite solid and stronger than .COM and the other major legacy gTLDs. It also has a lower percentage of reregistrations than the other legacy gTLDs. This means that when people register their .ORG, they keep renewing it. Some of the registrants are in a golden handcuffs situation where they cannot afford to rebrand to another TLD. They have to keep paying the renewal fees even if they increase. The golden handcuff part of any TLD is, once a TLD matures, the most stable part of the registry's revenue because they, like the brand protection registrations, keep renewing. However, the taint of a deal done behind closed doors is going to cause problems for the .ORG and once that position of the gTLD being the "good" gTLD is gone, it won't return. The situation on the deal and the justifications for it need to be explained in simple terms so that the media doesn't get the idea that ISOC shafted the .ORG registrants. The .ORG is similar to ccTLDs in that its registrants often seem to have a loyalty to the gTLD and consider it "their" TLD. There needs to be a greater explanation of the deal and the ISOC people involved need to explain why they accepted the Ethos deal. ICANN's removal of the price cap looks extraordinarily iffy even if there was nothing untoward about it. This really needs to be immediately addressed and simple denials will not be good enough. The .ORG registrants are not ISOC members and many don't even know that ISOC exists. If this current lack of information and lack of transparency continues, the registrants will become aware and they will start reconsidering their .ORG registration. The problem is that those reconsiderations won't become immediately apparent as the registrants will begin to rebrand. The process might take four years or so but the worst case is that there will be a drift away from .ORG towards other TLDs such as ccTLDs. There will be an uptick in ccTLD redirects in the web usage surveys. At a country level, the .ORG is very much a third choice TLD after the local ccTLD and .COM. Once that loyalty of the registrants to "their" TLD is gone, it is very difficult for the registry to recover it. Regards...jmcc -- ********************************************************** John McCormac * e-mail: jmcc(a)hosterstats.com MC2 * web: http://www.hosterstats.com/ 22 Viewmount * Domain Registrations Statistics Waterford * And Historical DNS Database. Ireland * Over 516 Million Domains Tracked. IE * Skype: hosterstats.com **********************************************************

1 0

A way forward on today's call re: PIR
by Marita Moll Dec. 3, 2019

Dec. 3, 2019

In advance of today's single issue call re: PIR, see below a section of the Registry Agreement that allows ICANN to seek additional information from the registry operator before approving a change of control. We could ask that ICANN seek answers to some of the outstanding questions -- such as those posed in a previous e-mail from Mark Surman at Modzilla 1. Are the stewardship measures proposed for the new PIR sufficient to protect the interests of the dot org community? What is missing? 2. What level of scope, authority and independence will the proposed Stewardship Council possess? Will dot org stakeholders have opportunities to weigh in on the selection of the Council and development of its bylaws and its relationship to PIR and Ethos? 3. What assurances can the dot org community have that Ethos and PIR will keep their promises regarding price increases? Will there be any remedy if these promises are not kept? 4. What mechanisms does PIR currently have in place to implement measures to protect free speech and other rights of domain holders under its revised contract, and will those mechanisms change in any way with the transfer of ownership and control? In particular, how will PIR handle requests from government actors? 5. When is the planned incorporation of PIR as a B corp? Are there any repercussions for Ethos and/or PIR if this incorporation does not take place? 6. What guarantees are in place to retain the unique character of the dot org as a home for non-commercial organizations, one of the important stewardship promises made by PIR when it was granted the registry? 7. Did ISOC receive multiple bids for PIR? If yes, what criteria in addition to price were used to review the bids? Were theICANN criteria originally applied to dot org bidders in 2002 <http://archive.icann.org/en/tlds/org/criteria.htm>considered? If no, would ISOC consider other bids should the current proposal be rejected? 8. How long has Ethos committed to stay invested in PIR? Are there measures in place to ensure continued commitment to the answers above in the event of a resale? 9. What changes to ICANN’s agreement with PIR should be made to ensure that dot org is maintained in a manner that serves the public interest, and that ICANN has recourse to act swiftly if it is not? Registry agreement 7.5 Change of control, assignment and subcontracting (a)Registry Operator must provide no less than thirty (30) calendar days advance notice to ICANN of any assignment or Material Subcontracting Arrangement, and any agreement to assign or subcontract any portion of the operations of the TLD (whether or not a Material Subcontracting Arrangement) must mandate compliance with all covenants, obligations and agreements by Registry Operator hereunder, and Registry Operator shall continue to be bound by such covenants, obligations and agreements. Registry Operator must also provide no less than thirty (30) calendar days advance notice to ICANN prior to the consummation of any transaction anticipated to result in a direct or indirect change of control of Registry Operator. (b)Within thirty (30) calendar days of either such notification pursuant to Section 7.5(a),*ICANN may request additional information from Registry Operator* establishing (i) compliance with this Agreement and (ii) that the party acquiring such control or entering into such assignment or Material Subcontracting Arrangement (in any case, the “Contracting Party”) and the ultimate parent entity of the Contracting Party meets the ICANN-adopted specification or policy on registry operator criteria then in effect (including with respect to financial resources and operational and technical capabilities), in which case Registry Operator must supply the requested information within fifteen (15) calendar days.

4 3

REMINDER / Meeting Invitation: At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Single Issue Call: "ISOC Sells PIR" on Tuesday, 03 December 2019 at 20:00 UTC
by ICANN At-Large Staff Dec. 3, 2019

Dec. 3, 2019

Dear All, The At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Single Issue Call: "ISOC Sells PIR" is scheduled for Tuesday, 03 December 2019 at 20:00 UTC for 90 mins. For other times: https://tinyurl.com/u99fxl2 The agenda and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/FwBhBw Zoom Room: https://icann.zoom.us/j/765717566 / Meeting ID: 765-717-566 Real time transcription (RTT) available at (subject to availability): https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN ADIGO Conference Bridge: EN: 1638 ES: 1738 Toll-free access number (US and Canada): 800 550 6865 Other toll-free numbers: https://www.adigo.com/icann At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Wiki Space: https://community.icann.org/x/jYDpB If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> Thank you. Kind regards, At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org<https://atlarge.icann.org/> Facebook: facebook.com/icann<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge> From: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> Date: Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 12:05 AM To: "cpwg(a)icann.org" <cpwg(a)icann.org> Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> Subject: NEW DOODLE: CPWG Single Issue Call: "ISOC Sells PIR" Dear All, Please complete the Doodle poll to schedule the CPWG Single Issue Call: "ISOC Sells PIR" for the week of 02 December 2019. Doodle: https://doodle.com/poll/rc843sc273c5b5sr I have enabled the time zone so that it can be changed to your zone. This doodle will close on Monday, 02 December 2019. Thank you. Kind Regards, Yeşim Nazlar

1 0

Fwd: Mozilla questions about PIR sale
by Marita Moll Dec. 3, 2019

Dec. 3, 2019

Food for thought in advance of single issue call: Mark Surman, the executive director of the Mozilla Foundation, has outlined nine critical questions about the PIR sale: https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2019/12/03/questions-about-org/ Marita

3 2

Fwd: [SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning] DEADLINE REMINDER! Topic Proposals Due Wed, 4 December
by Maureen Hilyard Dec. 2, 2019

Dec. 2, 2019

For your discussion and contribution to the plenary session topics if you have one to raise for ICANN67 ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Tanzanica S. King <tanzanica.king(a)icann.org> Date: Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 8:59 AM Subject: [SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning] DEADLINE REMINDER! Topic Proposals Due Wed, 4 December To: SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning < soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning(a)icann.org> Dear Community Leaders: A friendly reminder that topic proposals for ICANN67 are due by this *Wednesday,* *4 December 2019 at 23:00 UTC.* Please submit your proposals to the* Plenary Topic Proposal Form <https://icann.wufoo.com/forms/plenary-session-topic-proposal-form/> *as soon as possible. During the Kickoff in Montréal, you identified the following potential topics for future plenary sessions: - DNS and the Internet of Things (IoT) - The DNS Marketplace - Innovation in the DNS Please note that a form must be submitted for each topic to be considered. *Upcoming Production Dates* *4 December* Plenary Topic Proposals Due *5 December* Production Call 1: Discussion of Plenary Topics 5-12 December Further discussion via email and final selection of topics *13 December* Final Topics/Block Schedule Posted 13-23 December Schedule Planning *2 January* Session Request Submissions Open (SO/AC Requests Only) Best regards, Tanzanica _______________________________________________ Tanzanica S. King Sr. Manager, Meeting Strategy and Design ICANN Office +1 310 301 5800 Mobile +1 310 995 3038 www.icann.org <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.icann.org&d=DwMGaQ&…> *ICANN Community Wiki Pages:* Scheduling Resources and Links <https://community.icann.org/x/oq2jBg> Comprehensive List of Plenary Session Topics <https://community.icann.org/x/fJMzBw> _______________________________________________ SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning mailing list SOAC-Leaders-ICANNMeeting-Planning(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/soac-leaders-icannmeeting-planning _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

1 0

Meeting Invitation: At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Single Issue Call: "ISOC Sells PIR" on Tuesday, 03 December 2019 at 20:00 UTC
by ICANN At-Large Staff Dec. 2, 2019

Dec. 2, 2019

Dear All, The At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Single Issue Call: "ISOC Sells PIR" is scheduled for Tuesday, 03 December 2019 at 20:00 UTC for 90 mins. For other times: https://tinyurl.com/u99fxl2 The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/FwBhBw Zoom Room: https://icann.zoom.us/j/765717566 / Meeting ID: 765-717-566 Real time transcription (RTT) available at (subject to availability): https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN ADIGO Conference Bridge: EN: 1638 ES: 1738 Toll-free access number (US and Canada): 800 550 6865 Other toll-free numbers: https://www.adigo.com/icann At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Wiki Space: https://community.icann.org/x/jYDpB If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> Thank you. Kind regards, At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org<https://atlarge.icann.org/> Facebook: facebook.com/icann<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge> From: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> Date: Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 12:05 AM To: "cpwg(a)icann.org" <cpwg(a)icann.org> Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> Subject: NEW DOODLE: CPWG Single Issue Call: "ISOC Sells PIR" Dear All, Please complete the Doodle poll to schedule the CPWG Single Issue Call: "ISOC Sells PIR" for the week of 02 December 2019. Doodle: https://doodle.com/poll/rc843sc273c5b5sr I have enabled the time zone so that it can be changed to your zone. This doodle will close on Monday, 02 December 2019. Thank you. Kind Regards, Yeşim Nazlar

6 5

Meeting invitation: At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call on Wednesday, 04 December 2019 at 20:00 UTC
by ICANN At-Large Staff Dec. 2, 2019

Dec. 2, 2019

Dear All, The next At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Call is scheduled for Wednesday, 04 December 2019 at 20:00 UTC for 90 mins. For other times: https://tinyurl.com/udrvpdb The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/6JgzBw Zoom Room: https://icann.zoom.us/j/765717566 / Meeting ID: 765-717-566 – Please note, the zoom room link and Meeting ID will remain the same for each weekly meeting. Real time transcription (RTT) available at (subject to availability): https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN [streamtext.net] [streamtext.net]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.streamtext.net_pla…> ADIGO Conference Bridge: EN: 3535 ES: 1738 Toll-free access number (US and Canada): 800 550 6865 Other toll-free numbers: https://www.adigo.com/icann [adigo.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.adigo.com_icann&d=…> At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Wiki Space: https://community.icann.org/x/jYDpB If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> Thank you. Kind regards, At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org [atlarge.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__atlarge.icann.org_&d=D…> Facebook: facebook.com/icann [facebook.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_icann…>atlarge [facebook.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_icann…> Twitter: @ [twitter.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_ICANNAtLar…>ICANNAtLarge [twitter.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_ICANNAtLar…>

3 2

At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Single Issue Call: "ISOC Sells PIR"
by ICANN Policy Calendar Dec. 2, 2019

Dec. 2, 2019

Dear All, The At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Single Issue Call: "ISOC Sells PIR" is scheduled for Tuesday, 03 December 2019 at 20:00 UTC for 90 mins. For other times: https://tinyurl.com/u99fxl2 The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/FwBhBw Zoom Room: https://icann.zoom.us/j/765717566 / Meeting ID: 765-717-566 - Please note, the zoom room link and Meeting ID will remain the same for each weekly meeting. Real time transcription (RTT) available at (subject to availability): https://www.streamtext.net/player?event=ICANN ADIGO Conference Bridge: EN: 1638 ES: 1738 Toll-free access number (US and Canada): 800 550 6865 Other toll-free numbers: https://www.adigo.com/icann At-Large Consolidated Policy Working Group (CPWG) Wiki Space: https://community.icann.org/x/jYDpB If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> Thank you. Kind regards, At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org<https://atlarge.icann.org/> Facebook: facebook.com/icann<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>

1 0

REMINDER / NEW DOODLE: CPWG Single Issue Call: "ISOC Sells PIR"
by Yesim Nazlar Dec. 2, 2019

Dec. 2, 2019

Dear All, Kind reminder for those who haven’t completed the doodle, yet. Thank you. Kind Regards, Yeşim Nazlar From: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> Date: Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 12:05 AM To: "cpwg(a)icann.org" <cpwg(a)icann.org> Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> Subject: NEW DOODLE: CPWG Single Issue Call: "ISOC Sells PIR" Dear All, Please complete the Doodle poll to schedule the CPWG Single Issue Call: "ISOC Sells PIR" for the week of 02 December 2019. Doodle: https://doodle.com/poll/rc843sc273c5b5sr I have enabled the time zone so that it can be changed to your zone. This doodle will close on Monday, 02 December 2019. Thank you. Kind Regards, Yeşim Nazlar

1 0