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We Object!
by Carlton Samuels Nov. 16, 2019

Nov. 16, 2019

The Internet Commerce Association has gone nuclear on the .org deal. Somewhat lefthandedly but for the first time at last, I see in print what I have long believed; it is ICANN who is the 'effective* owner*' of all domain names, dictionary word or no, every character set known and unknown, heretofore and after, chattels and all! Damn, whoever thought this one up.....!! https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/15/ica-asks-icann-to-block-org-private-e… Carlton ============================== *Carlton A Samuels* *Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================

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Re: [CPWG] [registration-issues-wg] Fwd: ISOC sells PIR
by Alan Greenberg Nov. 14, 2019

Nov. 14, 2019

Why will it have major implications on ISOC Chapters? Alan At 13/11/2019 02:52 PM, Maureen Hilyard wrote: I know for sure that this was not even hinted at during the last PIR Advisory Council meeting.. but it will have major implications for the ISOC chapters. What are they/ISOC thinking? Maureen On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 7:59 AM Marita Moll <mmoll(a)ca.inter.net<mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net>> wrote: Had we known this was lurking in the background -- which it most certainly was at the time -- it might have been a different discussion. How much did ISOC know and when did they know it -- a question ISOC chapters might want to ask. Marita -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: ISOC sells PIR Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 17:38:29 +0000 From: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin(a)MAIL.UTORONTO.CA><mailto:stephanie.perrin@MAIL.UTORONTO.CA> Reply-To: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin(a)MAIL.UTORONTO.CA><mailto:stephanie.perrin@MAIL.UTORONTO.CA> To: NCSG-DISCUSS(a)LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> I must say, this casts the decision to drop price caps for .org in a slightly different light. I will keep you posted as I learn more. https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20191113005661/en/Ethos-Capital-Acqu… Stephanie Perrin NCSG Chair _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG(a)icann.org<mailto:CPWG@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ registration-issues-wg mailing list registration-issues-wg(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/registration-issues-wg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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Re: [CPWG] [registration-issues-wg] Fwd: ISOC sells PIR
by Alan Greenberg Nov. 14, 2019

Nov. 14, 2019

In rough numbers, PIR's gross income is about $100m with net revenue (ie "profit") of about $50-60m. In a blog post, Andrew Sullivan said "Today?s news has tremendous benefits for both the Internet Society and PIR. The transaction will help the Internet Society to secure its future through more stable, diversified and sustainable financial resources than it has at present, allowing the organization to plan for the long term and advance its vision of an Internet for everyone on an even broader scale.' I see the key words as STABLE, SUSTAINABLE and BROADER. In the 2018 Annual Report, PIR reported contributions ranging from $30m to about $75m over the last 4 years and they predict about $55m for this year. The announcement implies that the sale price will be sufficient to yield them comparable amounts in annual revenue from the sale proceeds. One could calculate what that implies about the sale price and to what extent Ethos has hopes of increasing profitability. Presumably at some point, ISOC will have to reveal what they got for it. Alan At 13/11/2019 11:36 PM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote: Hello all, I must admit I do not know what this means for the long term financial stability of ISOC, if ISOC has sold its only source of income. I need to read more about the details of the deal before forming an opinion. Kindest regards, Olivier Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message -------- From: Justine Chew <justine.chew(a)gmail.com> Date: 14/11/2019 08:02 (GMT+05:30) To: Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard(a)gmail.com> Cc: CPWG <cpwg(a)icann.org>, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> Subject: Re: [CPWG] [registration-issues-wg] Fwd: ISOC sells PIR It is an outright sale of an asset, the proceeds of which go toward "an endowment fund" for ISOC projects/activities. No revenue sharing is involved. The announcement indicated that all projects and operations will continue as is under new ownership. With its policy on public/community benefit presumably driven and overseen by Ethos Capital's Stewardship Council - I wonder who they will put on this Council. PIR under Ethos Capital will lose its non-for-profit status, so there might be financial implication not to ISOC but possibly PIR's existing .org customers/registrants. We shall see. Justine ----- On Thu, 14 Nov 2019 at 10:21, Maureen Hilyard < maureen.hilyard(a)gmail.com<mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com>> wrote: As Eduardo said there are lots of unknowns at present. Who knows? On Wed, 13 Nov 2019, 3:02 PM Alan Greenberg, <alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> > wrote: Why will it have major implications on ISOC Chapters? Alan At 13/11/2019 02:52 PM, Maureen Hilyard wrote: I know for sure that this was not even hinted at during the last PIR Advisory Council meeting.. but it will have major implications for the ISOC chapters. What are they/ISOC thinking? Maureen On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 7:59 AM Marita Moll <mmoll(a)ca.inter.net<mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net>> wrote: Had we known this was lurking in the background -- which it most certainly was at the time -- it might have been a different discussion. How much did ISOC know and when did they know it -- a question ISOC chapters might want to ask. Marita -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: ISOC sells PIR Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 17:38:29 +0000 From: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin(a)MAIL.UTORONTO.CA><mailto:stephanie.perrin@MAIL.UTORONTO.CA> Reply-To: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin(a)MAIL.UTORONTO.CA><mailto:stephanie.perrin@MAIL.UTORONTO.CA> To: NCSG-DISCUSS(a)LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> I must say, this casts the decision to drop price caps for .org in a slightly different light. I will keep you posted as I learn more. https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20191113005661/en/Ethos-Capital-Acqu… Stephanie Perrin NCSG Chair _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG(a)icann.org<mailto:CPWG@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG(a)icann.org<mailto:CPWG@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ registration-issues-wg mailing list registration-issues-wg(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:registration-issues-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/registration-issues-wg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG(a)icann.org<mailto:CPWG@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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Re: [CPWG] [registration-issues-wg] Fwd: ISOC sells PIR
by Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond Nov. 14, 2019

Nov. 14, 2019

Hello all,I must admit I do not know what this means for the long term financial stability of ISOC, if ISOC has sold its only source of income.I need to read more about the details of the deal before forming an opinion.Kindest regards,OlivierSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message --------From: Justine Chew <justine.chew(a)gmail.com> Date: 14/11/2019 08:02 (GMT+05:30) To: Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard(a)gmail.com> Cc: CPWG <cpwg(a)icann.org>, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> Subject: Re: [CPWG] [registration-issues-wg] Fwd: ISOC sells PIR It is an outright sale of an asset, the proceeds of which go toward "an endowment fund" for ISOC projects/activities. No revenue sharing is involved.The announcement indicated that all projects and operations will continue as is under new ownership. With its policy on public/community benefit presumably driven and overseen by Ethos Capital's Stewardship Council - I wonder who they will put on this Council.PIR under Ethos Capital will lose its non-for-profit status, so there might be financial implication not to ISOC but possibly PIR's existing .org customers/registrants.We shall see.Justine -----On Thu, 14 Nov 2019 at 10:21, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard(a)gmail.com> wrote:As Eduardo said there are lots of unknowns at present. Who knows?On Wed, 13 Nov 2019, 3:02 PM Alan Greenberg, <alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> wrote: Why will it have major implications on ISOC Chapters? Alan At 13/11/2019 02:52 PM, Maureen Hilyard wrote: I know for sure that this was not even hinted at during the last PIR Advisory Council meeting.. but it will have major implications for the ISOC chapters. What are they/ISOC thinking? Maureen On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 7:59 AM Marita Moll <mmoll(a)ca.inter.net> wrote: Had we known this was lurking in the background -- which it most certainly was at the time -- it might have been a different discussion. How much did ISOC know and when did they know it -- a question ISOC chapters might want to ask. Marita -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: ISOC sells PIR Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 17:38:29 +0000 From: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin(a)MAIL.UTORONTO.CA> Reply-To: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin(a)MAIL.UTORONTO.CA> To: NCSG-DISCUSS(a)LISTSERV.SYR.EDU I must say, this casts the decision to drop price caps for .org in a slightly different light. I will keep you posted as I learn more. https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20191113005661/en/Ethos-Capital-Acqu… Stephanie Perrin NCSG Chair _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ registration-issues-wg mailing list registration-issues-wg(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/registration-issues-wg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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Re: [CPWG] [registration-issues-wg] Fwd: ISOC sells PIR
by Alan Greenberg Nov. 14, 2019

Nov. 14, 2019

I agree that they are not likely to operate as a non-profit, but I presume they could if they really wanted to. Note also the reference to B Corporation status ( https://bcorporation.net/) Alan At 13/11/2019 09:32 PM, Justine Chew wrote: It is an outright sale of an asset, the proceeds of which go toward "an endowment fund" for ISOC projects/activities. No revenue sharing is involved. The announcement indicated that all projects and operations will continue as is under new ownership. With its policy on public/community benefit presumably driven and overseen by Ethos Capital's Stewardship Council - I wonder who they will put on this Council. PIR under Ethos Capital will lose its non-for-profit status, so there might be financial implication not to ISOC but possibly PIR's existing .org customers/registrants. We shall see. Justine ----- On Thu, 14 Nov 2019 at 10:21, Maureen Hilyard < maureen.hilyard(a)gmail.com<mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com>> wrote: As Eduardo said there are lots of unknowns at present. Who knows? On Wed, 13 Nov 2019, 3:02 PM Alan Greenberg, <alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> > wrote: Why will it have major implications on ISOC Chapters? Alan At 13/11/2019 02:52 PM, Maureen Hilyard wrote: I know for sure that this was not even hinted at during the last PIR Advisory Council meeting.. but it will have major implications for the ISOC chapters. What are they/ISOC thinking? Maureen On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 7:59 AM Marita Moll <mmoll(a)ca.inter.net<mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net>> wrote: Had we known this was lurking in the background -- which it most certainly was at the time -- it might have been a different discussion. How much did ISOC know and when did they know it -- a question ISOC chapters might want to ask. Marita -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: ISOC sells PIR Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 17:38:29 +0000 From: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin(a)MAIL.UTORONTO.CA><mailto:stephanie.perrin@MAIL.UTORONTO.CA> Reply-To: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin(a)MAIL.UTORONTO.CA><mailto:stephanie.perrin@MAIL.UTORONTO.CA> To: NCSG-DISCUSS(a)LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> I must say, this casts the decision to drop price caps for .org in a slightly different light. I will keep you posted as I learn more. https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20191113005661/en/Ethos-Capital-Acqu… Stephanie Perrin NCSG Chair _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG(a)icann.org<mailto:CPWG@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( <https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy> https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( <https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos> https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG(a)icann.org<mailto:CPWG@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( <https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy> https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( <https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos> https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ registration-issues-wg mailing list registration-issues-wg(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:registration-issues-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/registration-issues-wg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( <https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy> https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( <https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos> https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG(a)icann.org<mailto:CPWG@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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Re: [CPWG] [registration-issues-wg] Fwd: ISOC sells PIR
by Alan Greenberg Nov. 14, 2019

Nov. 14, 2019

But the problem is once Ethos takes its slice and PIR takes its share for admin, etc, how much will be left for ISOC? ISOC will no longer be in the picture. PIR was effectively owned by ISOC and will be sold to Ethos. Presumably the selling price will create the "endowment" that Andrew mentions in the announcement. With a new owner, it is anyone's guess whether the prior commitment of reasonableness will be upheld. I'm afraid I don't see the connection to Auction funds. Re Fadi: Yes, https://domainnamewire.com/tag/ethos-capital/ makes interesting reading. Alan At 13/11/2019 03:46 PM, Maureen Hilyard wrote: Just read the articles, and I suspect that ISOC has decided to give the business responsibility of .ORG away to Ethos Capital so that they can concentrate on their chapters and their core business. Also it must have seemed to be growing conflict of interest trying to be fair to all etc when it came to funding projects etc. An outside organisation / foundation could be more objective At our last PIR Advisory Council meeting, PIR assured us that prices would be kept to a "reasonable" level despite the removal of the cap and that the company would maintain .ORG in support of organisations working for social good. The link to Fadi Chehade is interesting as well as the registration of the Ethos company on the day the PIR agreement was finalised. But the problem is once Ethos takes its slice and PIR takes its share for admin, etc, how much will be left for ISOC? It does however for those of us still embroiled in the ICANN auction proceeds dilemma, this could add another mechanism to the mix, with Ethos Capital as an external organisation that could work with ICANN and a non-ICANN Org Management Body to manage its projects and the distribution of its funding. M On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 9:52 AM Maureen Hilyard < maureen.hilyard(a)gmail.com<mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com>> wrote: I know for sure that this was not even hinted at during the last PIR Advisory Council meeting.. but it will have major implications for the ISOC chapters. What are they/ISOC thinking? Maureen On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 7:59 AM Marita Moll <mmoll(a)ca.inter.net<mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net>> wrote: Had we known this was lurking in the background -- which it most certainly was at the time -- it might have been a different discussion. How much did ISOC know and when did they know it -- a question ISOC chapters might want to ask. Marita -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: ISOC sells PIR Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 17:38:29 +0000 From: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin(a)MAIL.UTORONTO.CA><mailto:stephanie.perrin@MAIL.UTORONTO.CA> Reply-To: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin(a)MAIL.UTORONTO.CA><mailto:stephanie.perrin@MAIL.UTORONTO.CA> To: NCSG-DISCUSS(a)LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> I must say, this casts the decision to drop price caps for .org in a slightly different light. I will keep you posted as I learn more. https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20191113005661/en/Ethos-Capital-Acqu… Stephanie Perrin NCSG Chair _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG(a)icann.org<mailto:CPWG@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ CPWG mailing list CPWG(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ registration-issues-wg mailing list registration-issues-wg(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/registration-issues-wg _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service ( https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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Fwd: ISOC sells PIR
by Marita Moll Nov. 13, 2019

Nov. 13, 2019

Had we known this was lurking in the background -- which it most certainly was at the time -- it might have been a different discussion. How much did ISOC know and when did they know it -- a question ISOC chapters might want to ask. Marita -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: ISOC sells PIR Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 17:38:29 +0000 From: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin(a)MAIL.UTORONTO.CA> Reply-To: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin(a)MAIL.UTORONTO.CA> To: NCSG-DISCUSS(a)LISTSERV.SYR.EDU I must say, this casts the decision to drop price caps for .org in a slightly different light. I will keep you posted as I learn more. https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20191113005661/en/Ethos-Capital-Acqu… Stephanie Perrin NCSG Chair

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A different approach to Whois debate
by Lutz Donnerhacke Nov. 8, 2019

Nov. 8, 2019

Hi, I stumble over the meeting telling anybody about different approaches to the whois problem in the light of GDPR. So I finally streamlined my idea and write it down (thank you for the atlas3 input, which guided this work) It's a bit lengthy, so please allow me to point to a blog post. https://lutz.donnerhacke.de/eng/Blog/Ultra-thin-whois-What-s-that So and now hit me here electronically or IRL. Lutz

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Freedom of the Net 2019 report: The internet is getting less free - Vox
by Carlton Samuels Nov. 5, 2019

Nov. 5, 2019

....and governments have figured out "social media propaganda works better than censorship". I was beginning to wonder when the "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" pivot would have been recognized by the cognoscenti! 🤔🤔 https://www.vox.com/recode/2019/11/5/20947419/internet-freedom-report-2019-… -Carlton

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Reconsideration Boo
by Carlton Samuels Nov. 5, 2019

Nov. 5, 2019

Conflicts produced lack of quorum for a Board committee? That doesn't sound right to me! https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/04/icann-board-finds-no-problems-with-ne… -Carlton

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