- Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl - lists.icann.org

Materials and agenda for 13 June PP IRT meeting
by Amy Bivins June 13, 2017

June 13, 2017

Dear Colleagues, On our next PP IRT call, scheduled for 13 June, 1400 UTC, we will continue discussing your feedback on the PSWG proposal. To aid this discussion, I'm attaching two documents that include the input provided from the IRT so far. (1) A detailed account of all IRT feedback submitted, in table format; and (2) A high-level summary of IRT feedback as a markup on the proposal document. On Tuesday, I'm planning to start at the top of the document and we will go through your feedback section by section, and discuss proposed talking points and questions for the PSWG (and proposed edits, if you have any at this stage). The goal of this exercise is to compile a list of significant issues (and proposed changes/solutions) the IRT would like to present to the PSWG for discussion in Johannesburg. We hope to be able to complete this exercise and have a document ready to share with the PSWG before 23 June. As an update on ICANN59 planning, we are still working to secure space for an IRT-PSWG meeting. Due to the late date, availability is a challenge, but we will find a space. We have a tentative spot for Tuesday, 27 June, 14:15-15:00 local time (UTC+2). The room we have available for this time slot is quite small and lacks meeting technical capabilities (microphones, etc), so we are working to find any other better alternative before sending out a meeting invitation. If this is our best option, we will likely run the call as a regular IRT meeting, with audio connected via Adobe Connect. To aid our planning, if you are planning to attend this meeting in person, could you please let me know? Thanks so much in advance, and I look forward to meeting with you on Tuesday. If you have additional comments on the PSWG proposal between now and Tuesday, please share them on the list. Best, Amy Amy E. Bivins Registrar Services and Engagement Senior Manager Registrar Services and Industry Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Email: amy.bivins(a)icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

11 12

Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Notes, action items from today's PP IRT call
by Sara Bockey June 7, 2017

June 7, 2017

Hi Amy, Please add me to the TPP sub-team. Thanks, Sara From: <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Amy Bivins <amy.bivins(a)icann.org> Reply-To: "gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org" <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org> Date: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 8:40 AM To: "gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org" <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org> Subject: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Notes, action items from today's PP IRT call Dear Colleagues, Thanks so much for your active participation on the IRT call this week. Per our discussion, please let me know no later than your EOD tomorrow, 7 June, if you would like to be added to the new subteam that will discuss “third party provider” issues. The quick turnaround is so that I can send around a Doodle poll Thurs to hopefully get the subteam meetings started next week. Also, please send any additional feedback you have this week on the PSWG proposal to the list no later than your EOD Friday. We will continue to discuss this topic on next week’s IRT call. Before the call I will distribute a summary of the comments/questions raised to date. We are working to schedule an IRT/PSWG session at ICANN59 and will provide more information as soon as possible. Our goal is to have a list of issues/questions/suggestions related to the PSWG proposal ready to discuss during the meeting in J’burg. The earlier we can get this to the PSWG, the better. Remote participation will be available for that meeting (I will also be remote). Best, Amy Amy E. Bivins Registrar Services and Engagement Senior Manager Registrar Services and Industry Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Email: amy.bivins(a)icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

4 3

Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Notes, action items from today's PP IRT call
by Chris Pelling June 6, 2017

June 6, 2017

Hi Amy, Please add me to the top subteam as well. >From Chris on the move! On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 5:32 PM +0100, "Roger D Carney" <rcarney(a)godaddy.com> wrote: Hi Amy, Please add me to the TPP issues sub-team. Here are some notes on PSWG framework draft. I know a few of these have been mentioned by others (maybe more than once): 2.1.4 Priority Level – 4.1.2 mentions providing justification of priority, should that be a requirement here? 2.1.4 Deadline – probably should be “requested” deadline 4.1.2 How is “actioned” defined 4.2.2.3 How is safety defined? Thanks Roger From: gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Amy Bivins Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 10:40 AM To: gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org Subject: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Notes, action items from today's PP IRT call Dear Colleagues, Thanks so much for your active participation on the IRT call this week. Per our discussion, please let me know no later than your EOD tomorrow, 7 June, if you would like to be added to the new subteam that will discuss “third party provider” issues. The quick turnaround is so that I can send around a Doodle poll Thurs to hopefully get the subteam meetings started next week. Also, please send any additional feedback you have this week on the PSWG proposal to the list no later than your EOD Friday. We will continue to discuss this topic on next week’s IRT call. Before the call I will distribute a summary of the comments/questions raised to date. We are working to schedule an IRT/PSWG session at ICANN59 and will provide more information as soon as possible. Our goal is to have a list of issues/questions/suggestions related to the PSWG proposal ready to discuss during the meeting in J’burg. The earlier we can get this to the PSWG, the better. Remote participation will be available for that meeting (I will also be remote). Best, Amy Amy E. Bivins Registrar Services and Engagement Senior Manager Registrar Services and Industry Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Email: amy.bivins(a)icann.org www.icann.org

1 0

Notes, action items from today's PP IRT call
by Amy Bivins June 6, 2017

June 6, 2017

Dear Colleagues, Thanks so much for your active participation on the IRT call this week. Per our discussion, please let me know no later than your EOD tomorrow, 7 June, if you would like to be added to the new subteam that will discuss "third party provider" issues. The quick turnaround is so that I can send around a Doodle poll Thurs to hopefully get the subteam meetings started next week. Also, please send any additional feedback you have this week on the PSWG proposal to the list no later than your EOD Friday. We will continue to discuss this topic on next week's IRT call. Before the call I will distribute a summary of the comments/questions raised to date. We are working to schedule an IRT/PSWG session at ICANN59 and will provide more information as soon as possible. Our goal is to have a list of issues/questions/suggestions related to the PSWG proposal ready to discuss during the meeting in J'burg. The earlier we can get this to the PSWG, the better. Remote participation will be available for that meeting (I will also be remote). Best, Amy Amy E. Bivins Registrar Services and Engagement Senior Manager Registrar Services and Industry Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Email: amy.bivins(a)icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

3 2

Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Fwd: PSWG proposal
by Michele Neylon - Blacknight June 6, 2017

June 6, 2017

Amy / Nick I’ll try to make the call today, but I am having issues juggling meetings / calls etc., In relation to the document shared by Nick: 1.5 – is there a list of priority levels? One of my concerns with this is that the lazy method would be to always set the level as “fastest” or “top priority”. I see there are two rather vague ones mentioned elsewhere in the document. 3.2 the 24 hour timeframe is not workable. I assume the timing has been copied from 3.18 in the 2013 RAA. Unfortunately there is a significant difference. The disclosure framework outlined by Nick is very “legalistic” so it would require the provider to get legal advice before being able to respond. I don’t think I’d be able to even reach our main legal counsel on a Saturday night, let alone get a response from him that could be used. And if I did the cost would be untenable. I’d be happy to acknowledge the request within 24 hours, but I don’t think that the current wording is workable. The language around “secure mechanism” does concern me – it needs to be fleshed out a bit 4.2.3 – “This must be completed prior to any Customer Notification irrespective of the reason for refusal” – I don’t see how or why we would agree to this. Unless you have a court order or similar gagging us. Also it’s inconsistent with the grounds for refusal. 4.3.3 – sorry, but again I don’t see why we’d agree to this. 6.3 – this seems to contradict the other references to customer notification Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Amy Bivins <amy.bivins(a)icann.org> Reply-To: "gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org" <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org> Date: Sunday 4 June 2017 at 12:10 To: "gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org" <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org> Subject: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Fwd: PSWG proposal Dear Colleagues, Please see the PSWG proposal attached, which Nick Shorey will present to the IRT on Tuesday. Best, Amy Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: Nick Shorey <lists(a)nickshorey.com<mailto:lists@nickshorey.com>> Date: June 4, 2017 at 6:42:52 AM EDT To: Amy Bivins <amy.bivins(a)icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org>> Cc: Fabien Betremieux <fabien.betremieux(a)icann.org<mailto:fabien.betremieux@icann.org>> Subject: [Ext] Re: Checking in on PSWG proposal Hi Amy, Please see attached the Disclosure Framework Principles document, which has now been approved by the GAC. Do send me the details for Tuesday's session, and I look forward to running the rest of the IRT through the document. FYI I did a Webinar for the GAC last week which took around 30 mins - though I anticipate there could be more questions from the IRT so it could run longer. Kind regards, Nick Nick Shorey Phone: +44 (0) 7552 455 988 Email: lists(a)nickshorey.com<mailto:lists@nickshorey.com> Skype: nick.shorey Twitter: @nickshorey LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/nicklinkedin[linkedin.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_nic…> Web: www.nickshorey.com[nickshorey.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.nickshorey.com&d=Dw…> On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Amy Bivins <amy.bivins(a)icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org>> wrote: Hi Nick, Just checking in-how are things looking for the PSWG proposal for PP? Thanks and have a great weekend! Amy Sent from my iPhone

5 4

Materials, IRT Action Items from 30 May PP Call
by Amy Bivins June 5, 2017

June 5, 2017

Dear Colleagues, Thanks so much for your active participation on today's Privacy/Proxy IRT call. If you were unable to attend, I encourage you to listen to the recording because we covered a lot of ground today. The recording is available on the wiki, https://participate.icann.org/p6bxagpwaq9/ IRT Action Items (1) Please submit any additional feedback you have on the draft v1 applicant guide (attached) by Friday. We will be discussing again and there will be more opportunities for discussion, but the more feedback we have now the better, as we will use the feedback received this week in drafting v2. A summary of your feedback received to date on the applicant guide is attached. I am also attaching the results of the IRT survey of initial operational questions that you completed back in February-this came up briefly on today's call. I apologize that I over-stated the point referenced today on the call-I said that the majority of the IRT said in the poll that the existence of a PP Provider application and/or the contents of an application for accreditation should not be made public. This is true-there was a slight majority of the IRT for this point on each of the questions, but it was a very close result for both questions and the number of participants was relatively low for this poll. (2) Please submit your feedback on the RDDS labeling proposals discussed on today's call no later than Friday. For those not on the call, the Registrar Subteam has developed two possible solutions to implementing the recommendation that registrations involving privacy and/or proxy services should be clearly labeled as such in WHOIS. The first solution would be to (a) require that the privacy/proxy service provider name and ICANN ID appear in the registrant name and/or the registrant organization field (the "or" is to accommodate privacy services where the customer's name appears in the Registrant Name field--this was discussed further on the call). The second solution was (b) require that the privacy/proxy service provider's name, ICANN ID and a URL to the ICANN webpage listing of all accredited providers and contact information. The IRT was roughly split on these proposals. Some IRT members saw an added benefit to the URL (which would provide an easily-identifiable source of Provider contact information that may not be visible in WHOIS), while others thought the URL was unnecessary and could complicate automated uses of the label. If no clear consensus is reached on the list on the path forward on this one, we will take this to a poll. (3) Please submit any additional feedback you have regarding the "unaffiliated provider" issue raised by the registrar subteam today on the call. In summary, members of the registrar subteam have suggested that certain operational issues may make the accreditation of providers that are not affiliated with a registrar highly undesirable or impossible. There have been challenges noted by IRT members and staff throughout this IRT related to unaffiliated providers (particularly in the area of de-accreditation). However, as noted on the call, the Final Report does clearly reference unaffiliated providers, which seems to indicate an intent that unaffiliated providers should be permitted to become accredited. As a result, any potential question/action that would limit eligibility for accreditation by providers that are not affiliated with a registrar would likely need to be taken to the GNSO Council for guidance. At this stage, we are hoping to gather as much IRT input as possible on this so that we can determine how best to proceed. Please send your feedback to the list on this topic this week. As any changes on this point would have a substantial impact on the overall implementation of this program, any action on this should be taken as soon as practicable. Thanks so much for your attention to these matters. Please don't hesitate to contact me or write to the list directly if you have additional comments or questions. Amy E. Bivins Registrar Services and Engagement Senior Manager Registrar Services and Industry Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Email: amy.bivins(a)icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

8 14

Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Fwd: PSWG proposal
by theo geurts June 4, 2017

June 4, 2017

Sure Nick, no worries, I don't mind. Best regards, Theo On 4-6-2017 18:13, Nick Shorey Lists wrote: > Hi Theo, > > Thanks for the email. If you don't mind I'll hold until Tuesday, but > it's a good question to raise, and certainly one I'm keen to discuss > in practical terms with the experts within this group. > > Kind regards, > > Nick > > Nick Shorey > Phone: +44 (0) 7552 455 988 > Email: lists(a)nickshorey.com <mailto:lists@nickshorey.com> > Skype: nick.shorey > Twitter: @nickshorey > LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/nicklinkedin > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/nicklinkedin> > Web: www.nickshorey.com <http://www.nickshorey.com> > > On 4 Jun 2017, at 13:11, theo geurts <gtheo(a)xs4all.nl > <mailto:gtheo@xs4all.nl>> wrote: > > Looking forward to the presentation. > > Nick, can you provide some background on 4.2.1 in advance? If not, no > worries, we will zoom in on it Tuesday, I am just curious and most > likely overthinking what a secure mechanism is, in this scenario. > > /4.2.1 Within the appropriate timeframe consistent with the Priority > Level, the Provider will disclose to Requestor using a secure > mechanism the Requested Information it holds against the account. / > > Best regards, > > Theo Geurts > > > On 4-6-2017 13:10, Amy Bivins wrote: >> Dear Colleagues, >> >> Please see the PSWG proposal attached, which Nick Shorey will present >> to the IRT on Tuesday. >> >> Best, >> Amy >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> *From:* Nick Shorey <lists(a)nickshorey.com <mailto:lists@nickshorey.com>> >>> *Date:* June 4, 2017 at 6:42:52 AM EDT >>> *To:* Amy Bivins <amy.bivins(a)icann.org <mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org>> >>> *Cc:* Fabien Betremieux <fabien.betremieux(a)icann.org >>> <mailto:fabien.betremieux@icann.org>> >>> *Subject:* *[Ext] Re: Checking in on PSWG proposal* >>> >>> Hi Amy, >>> >>> Please see attached the Disclosure Framework Principles document, >>> which has now been approved by the GAC. >>> >>> Do send me the details for Tuesday's session, and I look forward to >>> running the rest of the IRT through the document. >>> >>> FYI I did a Webinar for the GAC last week which took around 30 mins >>> - though I anticipate there could be more questions from the IRT so >>> it could run longer. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Nick >>> >>> *Nick Shorey* >>> Phone: +44 (0) 7552 455 988 >>> Email: lists(a)nickshorey.com <mailto:lists@nickshorey.com> >>> Skype: nick.shorey >>> Twitter: @nickshorey >>> LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/nicklinkedin[linkedin.com] >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_nic…> >>> Web: www.nickshorey.com[nickshorey.com] >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.nickshorey.com&d=Dw…> >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Amy Bivins <amy.bivins(a)icann.org >>> <mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Nick, >>> >>> Just checking in-how are things looking for the PSWG proposal >>> for PP? >>> >>> Thanks and have a great weekend! >>> Amy >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl mailing list >> Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl >

1 0

Fwd: PSWG proposal
by Amy Bivins June 4, 2017

June 4, 2017

Dear Colleagues, Please see the PSWG proposal attached, which Nick Shorey will present to the IRT on Tuesday. Best, Amy Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: Nick Shorey <lists(a)nickshorey.com<mailto:lists@nickshorey.com>> Date: June 4, 2017 at 6:42:52 AM EDT To: Amy Bivins <amy.bivins(a)icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org>> Cc: Fabien Betremieux <fabien.betremieux(a)icann.org<mailto:fabien.betremieux@icann.org>> Subject: [Ext] Re: Checking in on PSWG proposal Hi Amy, Please see attached the Disclosure Framework Principles document, which has now been approved by the GAC. Do send me the details for Tuesday's session, and I look forward to running the rest of the IRT through the document. FYI I did a Webinar for the GAC last week which took around 30 mins - though I anticipate there could be more questions from the IRT so it could run longer. Kind regards, Nick Nick Shorey Phone: +44 (0) 7552 455 988 Email: lists(a)nickshorey.com<mailto:lists@nickshorey.com> Skype: nick.shorey Twitter: @nickshorey LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/nicklinkedin[linkedin.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_nic…> Web: www.nickshorey.com[nickshorey.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.nickshorey.com&d=Dw…> On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Amy Bivins <amy.bivins(a)icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org>> wrote: Hi Nick, Just checking in-how are things looking for the PSWG proposal for PP? Thanks and have a great weekend! Amy Sent from my iPhone

3 2

Agenda for Privacy/Proxy IRT call, 30 May
by Amy Bivins May 26, 2017

May 26, 2017

Dear Colleagues, On our next Privacy/Proxy IRT call, scheduled for Tuesday, 30 May, at 1400 UTC, we will discuss the following: * Update regarding the Registrar Subteam's work on RDDS labeling (Francisco Arias, Technical Services, will be joining us for this discussion); * Discussion of IRT feedback on draft applicant guide. If there are any additional topics you wish to raise, please let me know by responding to the list. I summarize the input we have received to date on the draft applicant guide, but because Monday is a holiday and the meeting is early Tuesday in the US, today is the cutoff for sharing material that will be incorporated into the slide deck. Thanks so much for your participation, and I look forward to speaking with you on Tuesday. Have a great weekend! Best, Amy Amy E. Bivins Registrar Services and Engagement Senior Manager Registrar Services and Industry Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Email: amy.bivins(a)icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

1 0

Materials for PP IRT Review, Meeting Next Week Canceled to Provide Additional Review Time
by Amy Bivins May 26, 2017

May 26, 2017

Dear Colleagues, Thanks so much for your active participation on yesterday's Privacy/Proxy IRT call. The meeting recording and materials are available on the wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/IRT/16+May+2017 As a reminder, we are requesting your feedback on the draft v1 applicant guide, distributed to the IRT last week and also attached. Following our discussion yesterday, I created two new documents to aid your review of the draft applicant guide: (1) a comparison document that shows the differences between the current ICANN application for registrar accreditation and the draft v1 application for privacy/proxy service provider accreditation (attached). (2) An annotated version of the draft v1 application for privacy/proxy service provider accreditation (attached), noting questions that are proposed in response to a specific recommendation from the Final Report. As you are reviewing these documents, please consider the following questions: (a) Is this proposed process consistent with the intent of the Policy recommendations? (b) Do the proposed evaluation criteria seem to be consistent with the intent of the Policy recommendations? (c) Are there areas where ICANN should consider streamlining the evaluation for registrar-Affiliated providers? (d) Are there processes/criteria that may require "implementation adjustment" (as noted in p. 6 of the Final Report) in the case of providers that are not affiliated with ICANN-accredited registrars? (e) Should ICANN consider reducing the number of evaluation questions and instead ensure that the applicant understands and agrees to comply with the relevant requirements via the required applicant educational program (and screening test, as discussed in April?). If so, which questions do you believe could/should be evaluated in this manner? Next week's meeting, scheduled for 23 May, is canceled to provide additional time for this review. Our next meeting will be on 30 May 2017. Please send your feedback on these documents to the list no later than your EOD 25 May. If you have questions or comments between now and then, please don't hesitate to reply to the list or contact me directly. Best, Amy Amy E. Bivins Registrar Services and Engagement Senior Manager Registrar Services and Industry Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Email: amy.bivins(a)icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

6 8