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1 May PP IRT meeting canceled
by Amy Bivins April 27, 2018

April 27, 2018

Dear Colleagues, We will not have a privacy/proxy IRT meeting this upcoming Tuesday, 1 May, as we don't have any new items to discuss next week. ICANN org intends to have the more detailed document on the fees-setting process, as referenced by Xavier Calvez on Tuesday's call, ready to share with the IRT by the end of next week. In terms of overall timeline, we are currently doing final reviews of the draft accreditation agreement and doing some outreach to the data escrow agents with respect to the draft escrow specification. We will need to discuss both with you prior to proceeding to the public comment period, so it's looking like it will be at least late May by the time we are able to reach that point. Thanks, and have a great weekend. Amy Amy E. Bivins Registrar Services and Engagement Senior Manager Registrar Services and Industry Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Email: amy.bivins(a)icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

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Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] FW: PP fees document from ICANN61 attached
by Darcy Southwell April 26, 2018

April 26, 2018

Amy, given the activity that took place during the meetings on April 17 and 24, and the follow up requests by email regarding fees, what is your new estimate timeline for publication? The last estimate was late April/early May, but the same fee-related information is still at issue. Thanks, Darcy From: Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Amy Bivins <amy.bivins(a)icann.org> Reply-To: <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org> Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 7:26 AM To: "gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org" <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org> Subject: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] FW: PP fees document from ICANN61 attached From: Amy Bivins Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 10:20 AM To: Chris Pelling <chris(a)netearth.net> Subject: PP fees document from ICANN61 attached Amy E. Bivins Registrar Services and Engagement Senior Manager Registrar Services and Industry Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Email: amy.bivins(a)icann.org www.icann.org _______________________________________________ Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl mailing list Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl

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Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] FW: PP fees document from ICANN61 attached
by Michele Neylon - Blacknight April 25, 2018

April 25, 2018

Amy et al Will ICANN be providing a detailed breakdown and rationale for the proposed fees structure? We’ve been asking for this for some time and to the best of my knowledge nothing in writing beyond the very high level fees list has been forthcoming. Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Amy Bivins <amy.bivins(a)icann.org> Reply-To: "gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org" <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org> Date: Tuesday 24 April 2018 at 15:26 To: "gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org" <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org> Subject: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] FW: PP fees document from ICANN61 attached From: Amy Bivins Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 10:20 AM To: Chris Pelling <chris(a)netearth.net> Subject: PP fees document from ICANN61 attached Amy E. Bivins Registrar Services and Engagement Senior Manager Registrar Services and Industry Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Email: amy.bivins(a)icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

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Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] FW: PP fees document from ICANN61 attached
by Michelle DeSmyter April 25, 2018

April 25, 2018

Hi Seth, Thank you, I will go ahead and remove you from the mailing list. Best regards, Michelle From: Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Seth M Reiss <seth.reiss(a)lex-ip.com> Organization: Seth M Reiss, AAL, ALLLC Reply-To: "seth.reiss(a)lex-ip.com" <seth.reiss(a)lex-ip.com>, "gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org" <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org> Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 12:05 PM To: "gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org" <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] FW: PP fees document from ICANN61 attached Please remove me from this list. Thank you. Seth Reiss From: Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl [mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Amy Bivins Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 2:36 AM To: gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org Subject: Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] FW: PP fees document from ICANN61 attached Hi Michele and all, Yes. ICANN will provide an explanation in writing (building upon Xavier’s presentation yesterday) about the factors that were used to reach the proposed fees structure (estimated costs being one of the three factors that influenced the proposal). We hope to have this for the group next week. Best, Amy From: Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl [mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Michele Neylon - Blacknight Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 5:18 AM To: gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org Subject: Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] FW: PP fees document from ICANN61 attached Amy et al Will ICANN be providing a detailed breakdown and rationale for the proposed fees structure? We’ve been asking for this for some time and to the best of my knowledge nothing in writing beyond the very high level fees list has been forthcoming. Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Amy Bivins <amy.bivins(a)icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org>> Reply-To: "gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org<mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org>" <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org<mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org>> Date: Tuesday 24 April 2018 at 15:26 To: "gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org<mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org>" <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org<mailto:gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl@icann.org>> Subject: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] FW: PP fees document from ICANN61 attached From: Amy Bivins Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 10:20 AM To: Chris Pelling <chris(a)netearth.net<mailto:chris@netearth.net>> Subject: PP fees document from ICANN61 attached Amy E. Bivins Registrar Services and Engagement Senior Manager Registrar Services and Industry Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Email: amy.bivins(a)icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org> www.icann.org[icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.icann.org&d=DwMGaQ&…>

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FW: PP fees document from ICANN61 attached
by Amy Bivins April 24, 2018

April 24, 2018

From: Amy Bivins Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 10:20 AM To: Chris Pelling <chris(a)netearth.net> Subject: PP fees document from ICANN61 attached Amy E. Bivins Registrar Services and Engagement Senior Manager Registrar Services and Industry Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Email: amy.bivins(a)icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

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Agenda for today's PP IRT call
by Amy Bivins April 24, 2018

April 24, 2018

Dear Colleagues, On the PP IRT call this morning (starting in about 90 minutes at 1400 UTC) we will have Xavier Calvez joining us to provide an overview of how ICANN org developed the PP IRT fees proposal. Xavier will also be available to answer any questions. I'm aware that there is a community call on GDPR starting at 1500 UTC, so we plan to wrap up before that call begins, as I know many of you will likely be attending that meeting. I look forward to meeting with you shortly. Best, Amy Amy E. Bivins Registrar Services and Engagement Senior Manager Registrar Services and Industry Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Email: amy.bivins(a)icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

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Re: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Agenda for today's PP IRT call
by Michele Neylon - Blacknight April 24, 2018

April 24, 2018

What “community call” on GDPR? -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Amy Bivins <amy.bivins(a)icann.org> Reply-To: "gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org" <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org> Date: Tuesday 24 April 2018 at 13:34 To: "gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org" <gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl(a)icann.org> Subject: [Gdd-gnso-ppsai-impl] Agenda for today's PP IRT call Dear Colleagues, On the PP IRT call this morning (starting in about 90 minutes at 1400 UTC) we will have Xavier Calvez joining us to provide an overview of how ICANN org developed the PP IRT fees proposal. Xavier will also be available to answer any questions. I’m aware that there is a community call on GDPR starting at 1500 UTC, so we plan to wrap up before that call begins, as I know many of you will likely be attending that meeting. I look forward to meeting with you shortly. Best, Amy Amy E. Bivins Registrar Services and Engagement Senior Manager Registrar Services and Industry Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Email: amy.bivins(a)icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

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Remove, unsubscribe
by Denise Michel April 19, 2018

April 19, 2018

Please remove me from this group and unsubscribe me from this email list. Thanks Denise Michel Domain Name System Strategy & Management Facebook, Inc. denisemichel(a)fb.com<mailto:denisemichel@fb.com>

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Notes, action items from today's PP IRT meeting--feedback requested by 27 April
by Amy Bivins April 17, 2018

April 17, 2018

Dear Colleagues, Thank you for your participation on today's privacy/proxy IRT call. For those who could not attend, I regret that we were unable to record this meeting (an issue with a new internal recording policy), but this was a one-time issue and all future meetings will be recorded. I've done my best to annotate the LEA specification document with the items we discussed, and have also attached the chat transcript. IRT Action Items We are nearing the completion of discussions on the LEA Specification. Other than the item of clear disagreement among members of the IRT-the time period for high priority requests-we are largely in the refining stage. To that end, we have a few final proposed edits for the group to review and comment on-including some edits that were originally suggested by Sara Bockey a few weeks ago and supported by many registrar members of the IRT. If we don't hear any opposition to these edits that would warrant further discussion, we will make these edits as requested in the draft we publish for comment. Today, we considered whether the LEA Framework Specification would be clearer if we reorganized it slightly, to make more clear where processes apply to high priority requests and when they don't. I've included two versions of the draft-the one with "orig" at the end of the title-which includes the proposed edits without reorganizing, and the "reorganized" one. Please review both and respond to the list with your thoughts about the proposed reorganizing of this. Please provide any additional input you have on this draft no later than next Friday, 27 April. Please note, specifically, questions in the following sections: Original Numbering Reorganized Version Section 2.1.10 (addition of "except in high priority" language at beginning of edit) Same section Section 3.2.1 (addition of the words "Standard Priority" to make clear this 2 business day receipt process doesn't apply in high priority cases) Moved to Section 3.2.2 Section 4.2.2 (inclusion of "without limitations" language, plus input about and question from Steve Metalitz-any other reasons that registrars feel would be reasonable for refusing disclosure?); Also see feedback, generally, from PSWG liaison, in meeting chat transcript (most pasted into specification document but cuts off at the end) Same section Section 4.2.2.5 (is this redundant? ) Same section Section 4.2.6 (is this redundant?) Same section I'm also attaching the most recent draft de-accreditation procedure document. As mentioned on the list last week, upon further consideration on the ICANN org side we think we should add back in the proposed transition procedure for customers impacted by the de-accreditation or termination of a third-party provider (section 4). Please review and provide any further comments on this no later than 27 April. For next week, we are hoping to have the requested fees information ready for you to discuss. I'll update you as soon as I can. Best, Amy Amy E. Bivins Registrar Services and Engagement Senior Manager Registrar Services and Industry Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Email: amy.bivins(a)icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

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Items for PP IRT discussion on Tuesday
by Amy Bivins April 17, 2018

April 17, 2018

Dear Colleagues, Attached are updated documents for discussion on Tuesday's Privacy/Proxy IRT call, at 1400 UTC: 1. Updated draft de-accreditation procedure 2. Updated LEA Framework Specification markup On our call Tuesday, I'll walk you through the updates that have been made to the de-accreditation procedure based on your feedback. Please come prepared to discuss any further feedback you may have on this document, particularly the re-introduction of a proposed transition procedure that could be used to attempt to transfer impacted customers to a new provider if a provider is de-accredited. We considered whether to remove this process in the prior draft, due to practical concerns, but upon further consideration we think this process should be included, with the caveat that once it is tested adjustments may be needed to make the process work. For the updated markup of the LEA framework specification, the goal is to determine whether we have consensus among IRT members to adopt any of the changes proposed by registrar members of the IRT. There appears to be strong support for many of these proposed changes, so unless there is opposition to changes they can be incorporated into the draft. It's clear that the 24-hour response time proposed by the PSWG for high-priority requests does not have consensus support of the IRT, so we plan to call out this section specifically during the public comment period for community feedback. I hope to also have an update for you on data escrow next week and, if not, soon thereafter. As Adobe Connect is still unavailable, Michelle will circulate alternative information for you to dial in for the meeting. Best, Amy Amy E. Bivins Registrar Services and Engagement Senior Manager Registrar Services and Industry Relations Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Direct: +1 (202) 249-7551 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Email: amy.bivins(a)icann.org<mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

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