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Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Welcome to our new Council Liaison
by J. Scott Evans May 13, 2016

May 13, 2016

Great news! Onward and upward. J. Scott J. Scott Evans | Associate General Counsel - Trademarks, Copyright, Domains & Marketing | Adobe 345 Park Avenue San Jose, CA 95110 408.536.5336 (tel), 408.709.6162 (cell) jsevans(a)adobe.com<mailto:jsevans@adobe.com> www.adobe.com From: <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Phil Corwin <psc(a)vlaw-dc.com<mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com>> Date: Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 1:13 PM To: "gnso-rpm-wg(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org>" <gnso-rpm-wg(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org>> Subject: [gnso-rpm-wg] Welcome to our new Council Liaison I am very pleased to announce that on this morning's monthly call of the GNSO Council its Vice-Chair and IPC Councilor Heather Forrest volunteered to be our new Council Liaison, and to keep Council members apprised of the progress and substance of our work. I know that we all appreciate Heather's willingness to take on that additional role. Best to all, Philip Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal Virtualaw LLC 1155 F Street, NW Suite 1050 Washington, DC 20004 202-559-8597/Direct 202-559-8750/Fax 202-255-6172/Cell Twitter: @VlawDC "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey ________________________________ <ACL>

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Attendance and MP3 RPM WG Wednesday, 11 May 2016 at 16:00 UTC
by Terri Agnew May 11, 2016

May 11, 2016

Dear All, Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email and the MP3 recording below for the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) in all gTLDs PDP Working Group call held on Wednesday, 11 May 2016 at 16:00UTC. MP3: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-review-11may16-en.mp3<http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=NrFWbrBstcrPWP369qgbqlXiSKeL20xnUXz…> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov> ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/wCWAAw Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for 11 May 2016: Terri Agnew:Welcome to the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) in all gTLDs PDP Working Group call held on Wednesday, 11 May 2016 Terri Agnew:meeting wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/QwOOAw Terri Agnew:create GNSO SOI page: https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg Paul Keating:Hi sorry to join late. Mary Wong:@Paul, the meeting will only start in 25 minutes so you're not late :) Philip Corwin:Paul, this is solely a planning meeting for the co-chairs Philip Corwin:Full meeting starts at top of the hour Kathy:Sorry to be late -- dialing in. Paul Keating:AHHH so much for my time-keeping capacity ! cu at top of the hour. Terri Agnew:This WG call will begin in 17 minutes Elliot Silver:Hello everyone. Philip Corwin:Elliot, this is the co-chair planning call Philip Corwin:regular call at top of hour George Kirikos:Hi folks Kathy:all good Steve Levy:Hi to all Rudi Vansnick:hi all Martin Silva:Hi all Mariia Parubets:Hi everyone Greg Shatan:Hello all. J. Scott Evans:I am dialing in now. J. Scott Evans:Sorry. Ankur Raheja:Hello all Georges Nahitchevansky:Hello everyone Mary Wong:Welcome, everybody! Jonathan Frost:Hi all! Jeff Neuman:Hello all. I am on Adobe for now, but may drop off Adobe in a little bit. George Kirikos:Great attendance today. Nice to see the enthusiasm. ivett.paulovics:Hi everyone! J. Scott Evans:I'm on Mary Wong:Everyone has scroll control - document has been unsync'd Monica Mitchell:Hi everyone :) Paul Tattersfield:Hello everyone, jsut to let the technical people know I tried to log in 5 minutues ago but the room software would not let me in George Kirikos:Same thing happens to me too, Paul, occasionally. If you retry once or twice, it eventually does load. Mary Wong:Thanks, Paul and George - yes, usually a reboot/new login will fix it Jeff Neuman:FYI - next week many of the contracted parties will be at the GDD Summit. George Kirikos:I simply refresh (Ctrl-R) the page, and it usually works (rebooting not required). Paul Tattersfield:Thanks George & Mary , good to know, never happened before Mary Wong:Also, Adobe Connect tends to be better friends with Firefox than Chrome. Jeff Neuman:The Clearinghouse itself is not an RPM as we used to say.... Jeff Neuman:it is just a database susan payne valideus:@Mary - by late August can we expect the Analysis Group work on the TMCH will be concluded? Mary Wong:@Jeff, right - it is tbe repository for which associated services that are RPMs (sunrise and claims) are offered Mary Wong:@Susan, I believe the current timeline for them has early/mid summer as the delivery date for an initial report, so I expect so but we will of course coordinate and monitor with our GDD colleagues. ivett.paulovics:At ICANN Helsinki when will we meet? I think many have the flight back on 30th in the evening... Greg Shatan:The current draft schedule for Helsinki has us meeting 8-10:30 AM on Thursday. Mary Wong:@Ivett, currently there is an open cross community session for our WG planned for Wednesday afternoon (Helsinki time) and a regular WG meeting (that will be open to observers) on the Thursday morning. Greg Shatan:The cross-community session is 15:15-16:45 HEL Time. ivett.paulovics:Thank you Greg and Mary for the response. Mary Wong:@Ivett, the current iteration of the full schedule (still subject to change) is at https://community.icann.org/x/_o5CAw. Terri Agnew:@All, you may need to update your adobe connect plug in's. Please use this link: http://tinyurl.com/icannactest Ensure all 3 steps pass. On the fourth step, install the add-on. This will run adobe connect outside of the web browser. Adobe connect prefers Firefox browser. Terri Agnew:some have to reboot computer after installing updated plug in's Salvador Camacho Hernandez:Hello everyone. Sorry for connecting late George Kirikos:Looks like a reasonable schedule/plan to me. Jeff Neuman:I understand the rationale, but would like time to consider Robin Gross:Breaking it up this way seems more manageable to me. Cyntia King:The plan appears ambitious, but doable if we all take on some of the load. Kathy Kleiman:It's a long process, but very step by step. Mary Wong:@Cyntia, thanks - yes, it is also likely that at certain points there will be sub teams to do some of the work in parallel (but of course reporting back to the full WG for the analysis and recommendations) Jeff Neuman:Again my only reservation is to make sure that the timing of this group works with the timing of the other groups Greg Shatan:We may want to identify members of this WG who are also members of the NgSP WG. I think there's a fair amount of overlap..... George Kirikos:See page 1, Assumption #1. Kathy Kleiman:@Jeff: could you share your work plan? Mary Wong:@Greg, staff have done that already :) Jeff Neuman:@Kathy, the wiki for our group is public, so perhaps ICANN staff can send out susan payne valideus:presumably we can move the timeline up if we find the work can be done more quickly? Mary Wong:@Susan, exactly Jeff Neuman:I cant iimagine the PDDRP taking until August. It didnt take that long to put together the entire policy and implementation of it, and it has not been used at all. George Kirikos:Perhaps it factors in 2 months of European holidays? :-) Jonathan Frost:Agree Jeff. I would hope we don't steal time from TMCH or other complex issues for the sake of PDDRP. Kristine Dorrain:+1 George. It's only four meetings, plus Helsinki. Mary Wong:@Jeff, I don't see the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures WG draft work plan on the wiki - but I will keep looking, I may be looking at the wrong date/tab. Rudi Vansnick:unfortunately i'm off for 10 days, starting Friday, and will not be able to volunteer Steve Levy:Happy to help Paul Keating:I will help Steve Chan:@Mary, the WG is still working on the Work Plan Petter Rindforth:add me Rudi Vansnick:i will volunteer for a next one, after 22 May Robin Gross:I'm in both groups and would be willing to liase. Kathy Kleiman:Tx for volunteering, Robin. Greg Shatan:Always one step aheadm, @Mary! Greg Shatan:I wonder if there's value in convening the "overlap" group. Greg Shatan:In addition to using it to find liaisons. Kathy Kleiman:Agreed J. Scott Evans:agreed Rudi Vansnick:i will have to excuse for the next meeting ... back after 23 may J. Scott Evans:ciao Marie Pattullo:Thanks all! George Kirikos:Bye everyone. Paul Tattersfield:Thanks, bye everyone Jonathan Frost:Thanks all! Steve Levy:Have a good week Sara Bockey:thank you all Paul Keating:goodbye all. Phil will you let us know what is exactly expected re the letter? Paul McGrady:Great call! Very crisp. Thanks J Scott, Kathy & Phil! Georges Nahitchevansky:bye y'all J. Scott Evans:thanks Phil Mary Wong:Thanks everyone, thanks Phil Jay Chapman:Thanks all! Salvador Camacho Hernandez:thanks! Robin Gross:Thanks all, bye! Elliot Silver:Good bye! Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye. Petter Rindforth:Thanks Mariia Parubets:Thank you

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Draft Work Plan for review and discussion
by Mary Wong May 11, 2016

May 11, 2016

Dear all, Please find attached an initial draft Work Plan for Phase One of our PDP, for your review and discussion on the WG call scheduled for later today with WG Members. Please note that while the co-chairs have made initial comments on the draft, they may have additional comments and observations that they will elaborate on during our upcoming call with WG Members. Of course, following the call, we will also update the draft as necessary to reflect changes and edits agreed on during the call. Further, as we move along with the work in this Phase One, it is possible that additional changes – especially to the estimated timelines – will need to be made. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org Telephone: +1-603-5744889

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Agenda for tomorrow's call
by Lars Hoffmann May 10, 2016

May 10, 2016

Dear all, Please find below the proposed draft agenda for tomorrow RPM PDP WG call Best wishes, Lars Proposed Draft Agenda RPM PDP WG Meeting, Wednesday 11 May, 16:00 UTC - For other times: http://tinyurl.com/zbbeuva 1. Welcome and roll call/reminder to Members to create/update Statement of Interest (Staff / co-Chairs) 2. Presentation of Draft Work Plan (co-Chairs) 3. Discuss Draft Work Plan and Methodology (all) 4. Outreach effort to other SOs/ACs and SGs/Cs (all) 5. Liaison to New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG (all) 6. AOB (all) 7. Next meeting / next steps (co-Chairs)

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Attendance and MP3 RPM WG Wednesday, 04 May 2016 at 23:30 UTC
by Terri Agnew May 9, 2016

May 9, 2016

Dear All, Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email and the MP3 recording below for the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) in all gTLDs PDP Working Group call held on Wednesday, 04 May 2016 at 23:30 UTC. MP3: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-review-04may16-en.mp3<http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=NrFWbrBstcrPWP369qgbqlXiSKeL20xnUXz…> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov> ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/wCWAAw Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for 04 May 2016: Terri Agnew:Welcome to the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) in all gTLDs PDP Working Group call held on 04 May 2016. Terri Agnew:member wiki page witih SOI's https://community.icann.org/x/3iWAAw Terri Agnew:create GNSO SOI page: https://community.icann.org/x/c4Lg Graham Schreiber:Graham Schreiber ~ Canada. Ankur Raheja:Hello all, this is A Raheja from India George Kirikos:Hi folks. Ben Menor Jr.:morning everyone Ines Hfaiedh:hello everyone! greetings from Tunisia Philip Corwin:Hello all Steve Levy:Hello to our friends from around the world! Aaron Pace | .LESS(tm):Hello Hello - from Austin Texas Philip Corwin:ECHO George Kirikos:Someone needs to mute. Greg Shatan:trippy David McAuley:what on earth is that J. Scott Evans:we are having audio issues Greg Shatan:feeback loop Greg Shatan:feedback Mary Wong:All, please MUTE your mics if you are not speaking, and make sure to use just one set of speakers or headsets if possible. Philip Corwin:J Scott is going to open the call Philip Corwin:The three Co-Chairs are now rotating the opneing remarks Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Hello Everyone Ivett Paulovics:I can't see the contents of the slides George Kirikos:$150 x 40,000 = $6 million per year. David McAuley:Ivett, if you hit the box with four arrows in corner at top rihht of slide box you can get full screen and then use that box to toggle back and forth between full screen and current view Ivett Paulovics:Okay, I understand. I did it and saw the first slides until the TMCH, but now all slides are grey. Paul McGrady:Mary, can you please clarify what the bullet point stating that well known and famous marks are not to be in the TMCH means? I'm sure it doesn't mean that if your mark becomes famous it will undo your registration rights and make you ineligible for TMCH,\. Jeff Neuman (Valideus):One of the things that the original TMCH proposal envisioned was having multiple TMCHs...this would bring about price compeition and ultimately lower pricing Jeff Neuman (Valideus):ICANN never implemented that....even though it promised to David McAuley:ok I see, not sure how to fix George Kirikos:Yes, Jeff. It's be quite easy for registrars to loop through multiple providers' APIs, as discussed last week. Aaron Pace | .LESS(tm): @GK I just paid them $450 for my (R) mark! I bet they are getting way more than that! Jeff Neuman (Valideus):I know for a fact that other people proposed performing the TMCH functions for a LOT less than $150.....magnitudes less George Kirikos:Over 10 years, it'd be $1500. I believe that's a lot more than the USPTO charges. Jeff Neuman (Valideus):I dont believe the Sunrise Dispute Resolution Policy has ever been used in any TLD Kristine Dorrain (Amazon Registry):There isn't "A" sunrise dispute resolution policy. Each Registry has their own. Jeff Neuman (Valideus):good point @Kristine Jeff Neuman (Valideus):@Mary, that is because ICANN had delayed the launch of all TLDs by years through its lengthy processes. I would bet that many would do start date Sunrises IF they had predictable timeframes from ICANN on their application processing Jeff Neuman (Valideus):So, I would not read too much into the fact that most registries ran end date Sunrises Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):limit of 100 was not discussed with the community George Kirikos:Do we have any stats on the average number of domains registered per sunrise, per new gTLD? (i.e. if that's one of the claimed "benefits" of the TMCH, we should get that data) Philip Corwin:@Jeff--other than validating the validity and quality of the TM, which occurs at initial registration, it's difficult to envision why maintaining the mark in the TMCH database costs $150/year. This WG can make inquiries about that. George Kirikos:Plus, the average cost paid during those sunrises (if it was at a 'premium' compared to 'normal' registrations)......would help put some numbers to the claimed 'benefits'). Jeff Neuman (Valideus):@George....we should not use average number of Sunrise registrations as a measurement. But rather the percentage of Sunrise Registrations compared to overall registrations after some defined time period (like 1 year) Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):TMCH protects only TM owners who paid ... Philip Corwin:Absolutely astounding that 52.8 million TM Claims Notices have been generated, many multiples of total new gTLD registrations. We need to understand what that number represents, as unlikely it was all (or even most) actual registration attempts. George Kirikos:Agreed, Jeff. You'd need some numbers, which can then be analyzed further. George Kirikos:(i.e. raw data, which can then be turned into various aggregated averages, etc.) Paul McGrady:Of course an anti-benefit of the TMCH was when the trademark data was used to seek outrageous Sunrise fees. The WG needs to address the TOS for the TMCH to make sure future sunrise shenanigans don't occur. Jeff Neuman (Valideus):@George - These numbers are kept by the TMCH and by ICANN Paul Tattersfield:@Jeff including those registered to associated companies? Aaron Pace | .LESS(tm):+1 @Jeff. George Kirikos:Indeed, Paul. There an (incorrect) assumption that only registrants are the 'enemy', whereas the registry operators are often acting like 'registrants'. Reg Levy - M+M:hahaha, <3!!! Greg Shatan:We should see what stats are already kept by or relating to TMCH, before we make requests for stats. catherine.douglas:well done by Mary! thanks Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Due to multiple delays in new gTLD program , registries have to recover somehow , so high TMCH sunrise pricing mught be part of that process George Kirikos:Oops, multiple Pauls....that prior one was for Paul McGrady. :-) David McAuley:Yes, thanks Mary Jeff Neuman (Valideus):@Greg - We can do both. We can make our list of desired data while at the same time figuring out what data is kept by the TMCH. Philip Corwin:Kudos to Mary for covering so much information so well and so quickly J. Scott Evans:Yes, thanks Mary Greg Shatan:@Jeff, just suggesting we should see what's on offer, before putting in special orders.... Mary Wong:@Paul McGrady, re well known marks and your question - that slide/bullet referred only to the basis for which, and at the time that, a mark is submitted to the TMCH ie national registration/statutory or treaty protection/court validation. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Do we have ratio of frequent abusers for URS? George Kirikos:There's one frequent respondent for URS..... :-) Jeff Neuman (Valideus):@Maxim - what do you mean by "abuser" Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):@Jeff I see the same persons to be pulled for URS over and over again , and the absence of penalty for such persons lead to loss of time Jeff Neuman (Valideus):ok, you mean a frequent respondent as opposed to a frequent complainant George Kirikos:.pw isn't a gTLD. George Kirikos:(it's a ccTLD) Kurt Pritz:There are costly implementation requirements such as requiring proof of use that drives the TMCH costs up; we might look at streamlining the registration process based on experiences to ddate Ivett Paulovics:Acronym of the founders Ivett Paulovics:MFSD Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):some cctlds might accept URS Jeff Neuman (Valideus):@Kurt - That may be what IBM and Deloitte said to you when you picked them as a vdendor ;) But the reality is that many other providers can perform the same services with the same requirements for a lot less Graham Schreiber:<Question> Why is ICANN allowing / accrediting ADR Forum to have an Alternative / 3rd Level System for CentralNic's Domain Names of .COM? <end question> Jeff Neuman (Valideus):Ah, my favorite....the PDDRP Graham Schreiber:<comment> @KierenMcCarthy @TheRegister <><><> 2nd-level domain ultimately in charge of ~ [& liable for] ~ everything underneath it. <><><> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05/04/thirdlevel_dotcoms_gone/ <end comment> Paul McGrady:@Mary, thanks. That is what I thought, but perhaps it isn't clear for new comers. Can you please address this in the Q&A time and perhaps consider slightly modifying the bullet point before the deck is sent around? Thanks! Kathy Kleiman:Tx you, Lars and Mary! George Kirikos:Can we make the slides user-controllable, so we can scroll through it on our own? Mary Wong:@Paul M, we will take a look at the wording - we took it practically verbatim from the TMCH website but yes, maybe clarifying would be helpful for newer participants. Jeff Neuman (Valideus):<Question> Would this PDP or the Subsequent Rounds PDP address the actual operations of the TMCH and how it interoperates with the Registries and Registrars? Paul Tattersfield:@Graham are not most of them being sold for none third level use? Graham Schreiber:Hi Paul. Only the useless cc.COMs! Jeff Neuman (Valideus):QUestion for all of us to consider Jeff Neuman (Valideus):Does not need to be answered now George Kirikos:I would think so, Jeff....i.e. a broad definition of "Review of all RPMs" Jeff Neuman (Valideus):I will call in. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):<question> were there any kind of audit of the damage done to TM owners by period of non-operational TMCH ? Greg Shatan:It's a division of labor question -- between the two WGs Graham Schreiber:CentralNic is continuing to harm Domain Nmae Registrants w/ uk.com ~ eu.coom ~ de.com Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):it is a question Terri Agnew:as a reminder, if you are not on the telephone and would like to talk. Active your mic. Top tool bar, select telephone icon and follow the prompts Graham Schreiber:Paul ~ being sold for use at 3rd Level = Contributory Infringement. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):there were instances of periods where TMCH did not work due to technical reasons Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):during some of TLD sunrises Greg Shatan:According to ICANN, the downtime did not affect the Claims Notice services. Greg Shatan:http://domainincite.com/18575-icann-says-no-impact-from-tmch-downtime Mary Wong:@J Scott, @Maxim - we are not aware of any but will double check with our operations colleagues Cyntia King:We can hear you! George Kirikos:It would have been better to fund national TM offices to simply provide APIs, rather than to have a "TMCH", and have registrars/registries interface with those APIs. George Kirikos:Since, there are tools like TMView, etc., that already aggregate some of the TMs from multiple national trademark offices, etc. Mary Wong:@George, all - presumably gathering data and information from relevant sources will be an early piece of "homework" for this group, to facilitate fuller analysis based on factual information we are able to get. Jeff Neuman (Valideus):@mary - I missed last week, but was the issue of a Liaison between this group and the Subsequent Procedures PDP discussed? Mary Wong:@Jeff, it was noted - and will need to be coordinated with you, Avri and Steve (New gTLD Subsequent Procedures WG co-chairs); we will be following up with you as well as J Scott, Phil and Kathy shortly. George Kirikos:Phil: I think Graham is talking about 3rd level dot-com domains (not ccTLDs). i.e. Landcruise.uk.com, vs. Landcruise.com Jeff Neuman (Valideus):@mary - cool! Jeff Neuman (Valideus):Good to be working with you again @Mary Joe Styler:I do not believe this is in the scope of the working group as Mr Schreiber was told last week I believe Terri Agnew:finding the line Mary Wong:@Jeff, likewise! David McAuley:fast work Terri - thank you George Kirikos:That "special rule" by CentralNic is not something blessed by or authorized by ICANN. Mary Wong:@J Scott, that is correct catherine.douglas:isn't today's presentation about providing us with a background and an overview of what we're to review? not the details at this point? Greg Shatan:From ADR Forum's website: CentralNic is a second level domain registrant that sells third-level domains to users. Registration of a third level domain name in one of CentralNic's second level domains requires agreement to CentralNic's Dispute Resolution Policy. Prior to filing a CDRP, the complainant is required to attempt mediation by contacting CentralNic. The CDRP process is almost identical to the UDRP. http://www.adrforum.com/ThirdLevel Heather Forrest:Thanks for meeting rotation to facilitate participation in all the time zones Philip Corwin:Thanks for that link, Greg Aaron Pace | .LESS(tm):@ J. Scott Evans, Mary Wong and Jeff Neuman - Great Job! Kathy Kleiman:All, we are looking forward to your input on the draft workplan - does it make sense, is the time adequate, are issues covered? Joe Styler:Thanks Mary and Lars for the great presentation today Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):bye all Philip Corwin:Isn't it on Wednesday??? Jeff Neuman (Valideus):Aaron - Thank Phil not me Paul McGrady:Thanks everyone. David McAuley:@Joe +1 Mary Wong:Thanks for attending, everyone - please feel free to keep asking questions! Philip Corwin:The next call that is Denise Michel:Thanks Jay Mary Wong:@Phi;l, I believe so - we will confirm by email Graham Schreiber:Greg ~ Done that. catherine.douglas:thank you Paul Tattersfield:Thanks, especially Mary great presentation, bye all George Kirikos:Bye everyone. Denise Michel:Thanks Mary and all staff David McAuley:bye all Jeff Neuman (Valideus):Thanks Co-Chairs Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye. Jeff Neuman (Valideus):and Mary Philip Corwin:Bye all Danny Glix:thx Darcy Southwell:Thanks, all! Great presentation from staff. Greg Shatan:Bye all. Jeff Neuman (Valideus):and Lars Graham Schreiber:CentralNic evade ACPA Danielle Abel:Thanks! gret job! Ankur Raheja:Thanks

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Public warning regarding compliance with ICANN's Expected Standards of Behavior
by Mary Wong May 9, 2016

May 9, 2016

This email is being sent by ICANN staff on behalf of the Co-Chairs of this Working Group, and is addressed specifically to Mr. Graham Schreiber, a member of the Working Group. It is being posted publicly for the information of all other members and observers of the group, in accordance with the procedure required by the GNSO’s Working Group Guidelines. The posting of the attached letter to Mr. Schreiber from the Working Group Co-Chairs to this mailing list constitutes the public warning required by Section 3.5 (Rules of Engagement) of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines. Please refer to the attached letter for further information and details. For the text of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines, please see http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/annex-1-gnso-wg-guidelines-16feb16-en.pdf. Thank you. Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org Telephone: +1-603-5744889

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RPM Group <> Re: DomainNameWire ~ CentralNic to nuke a handful of pseudo-domain names
by Graham Schreiber May 8, 2016

May 8, 2016

Hi Gentlemen & RPM Group: Cc Garth: Further to the conversation in the RPM Meeting of May 4th, thank you Phil for the engaging in / expanding the dialog on *CentralNic*; and their ability to be exempt from ICANN’s RAA Rules. I’d like to thank George Kirikos for his statement to Phil: *“I think Graham is talking about 3rd level dot-com domains (not ccTLDs). i.e. Landcruise .uk.com <http://landcruise.uk.com/>, vs. Landcruise.com”.* Yes George, I am indeed curious how: *“That "special rule" by CentralNic is not something blessed by or authorized by ICANN.” *became such an accepted racket by ICANN; and why ICANN’s Contractual Compliance never shut-them-down? Thanks also to Greg, our ICANN IPC President for this link from: *“ADR Forum's website: CentralNic is a second level domain registrant that sells third-level domains to users. * *Registration of a third level domain name in one of CentralNic’s second level domains requires agreement to CentralNic’s Dispute Resolution Policy. Prior to filing a CDRP, the complainant is required to attempt mediation by contacting CentralNic.* *The CDRP process is almost identical to the UDRP. http://www.adrforum.com/ThirdLevel <http://www.adrforum.com/ThirdLevel>”* To all RPM Members: Why must a .COM Domain Name Registrant mediate with their Contributory Infringer, another RAA Subject, Domain Name Registrant? Ask yourselves reflectively, these questions of ~ *Third-Level Domain Names: at the ADR Forum. *http://www.adrforum.com/ThirdLevel *[ WHY ? ] *Ordinarily, domain name dispute resolution policies do not apply to third-level domain names. A few second-level domain name registrants have decided to *[ e~VaED the ACPA ]* sell third-level domain names like a Registry* [ and allowed to place those accounts into / under the VeriSign, ICANN & NTIA’s Root Zone of .COM in the DNS! ] * and have established dispute resolution policies to deal with any resulting disputes. *[ which equates to Racketeering ! ]* WHOIS History shows: CentralNic’s uk.COM is a former; and long standing Domain Name Registrant of Network Solutions, under the ICANN & VeriSign “accredited” status .COM R[r]egistry / R[r]egistrar, subject to the RAA. This was prior to their Cyber-Flight to CentralNic’s own TLD Registrar Solutions, domiciled at CentralNic’s London address, and yet again prior before their Third [3rd] Cyber-flight to Demys, yet again, another ICANN & VeriSign “accredited” .COM R[r]egistry / R[r]egistrar, where all are subjects to the RAA. Many of these observations or questions have been identified by another ICANN'er, Garth Bruen [Cc'd] in his book: *“**WHOIS Running the Internet: Protocol, Policy, and Privacy”* where reads will see that Garth eloquently dissects the problem. https://books.google.ca/books?id=mgmeCAAAQBAJ&pg=PA72&dq=centralnic+schreib… Greg and Phil, let me be candid with you both. Now that You’re being *FUNDED BY* revenues in large measure by ICANN’s .COM Domain Name Registrants to go Globe-trotting, I vigorously encourage you to stop being the batmen [ soldier-servants] to CentralNic’s *“handful of pseudo-domain names”* [Quote from Domain Name Wire] and serve the needs of the .COM Registrant’s. Also, Philip Corwin, thanks for acknowledging Greg:* “Thanks for that link, Greg”* . Greg & Phil, I expect you both to take you’re ~ funded ~ leadership role’s seriously; and press ICANN to enforce the RAA on CentralNic. Further, I expect you both to deploy you’re given powers within ICANN; and to successfully petition the United States Justice Department to ask ICANN Et Al to answer the “Questions Presented” in SCOTUS 14-1480, as linked. https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-cwg-naming-transition-01dec14/pdfFTO… Should you opt not to help enforce the ACPA law, I will consider that as Collaboration with CentralNic, going forward. To the Members of this RPM Group, who are aware of this scam, it’s time to stop harbouring this racketeering scheme; and oblige ICANN to enforce the RAA on CentralNic; and also to recognize beyond ICANN, that the cc.COMs are "*misleading"* and are a violation of established International Intellectual Property Treaties like WTO’s TRIPS. In closing, thanks again George for you’re help! Given you’re article Loopholes and Ambiguities in Contracts that ICANN Oversees <http://www.circleid.com/posts/20130109_loopholes_and_ambiguities_in_contrac…> Jan 10, 2013 12:06 AM PDT, I’d appreciate having you share more of you’re knowledge & questions with the Group. http://www.circleid.com/posts/20130109_loopholes_and_ambiguities_in_contrac… Thanks all, for reading this and engaging ICANN Et Al, to ensure that .COM Registrants ~ Rights Protections ~ are protected. Regards, Graham Schreiber.

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Meeting schedule for our Working Group
by Mary Wong May 5, 2016

May 5, 2016

Dear all, Please note that, with effect from the next meeting, all calls will revert to being Members-only calls. We’d like to request that Members look out for calendar invitations and emails from the GNSO Secretariat with future call dates and times. As a reminder, Observers may change their status to that of Member, and participate in all future calls, at any time by notifying the Secretariat (gnso-secs(a)icann.org) and creating a Statement of Interest using the community wiki login credentials that will be provided to you. Starting from next week, all Working Group calls will take place on the following days, at the following times, and in accordance with this rotation: * Every Wednesday for 3 Wednesdays at 1600 UTC (0900 Pacific; 1200 Eastern; 1700 London; 1800 Johannesburg; 0000 HK/Singapore, 0200 Sydney/Melbourne); * The 4th Wednesday call will then take place at 2100 UTC (1400 Pacific; 1700 Eastern; 2200 London; 2300 Johannesburg; 0500 HK/Singapore; 0700 Sydney/Melbourne) ** This means that the next Working Group call will take place on Wednesday 11 May at 1600 UTC. ** As mentioned previously by our now-confirmed co-chairs, the number of Members and the geographical/time zone spread of our Working Group means it is likely impossible to find a single time that will work for all. With this schedule as well as the fact that all calls are recorded and transcribed (with recordings and transcripts uploaded to the Working Group wiki space following each call), we hope that Members will be able to participate and keep up with the work of the group. Thanks and cheers Mary Mary Wong Senior Policy Director Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: mary.wong(a)icann.org Telephone: +1-603-5744889

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Proposed Agenda / Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) in all gTLDs PDP Working Group Wednesday, 04 May 2016 at 22:30 UTC
by Terri Agnew May 4, 2016

May 4, 2016

Dear All, Please find below the proposed agenda for the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) in all gTLDs PDP Working Group<https://community.icann.org/display/RARPMRIAGPWG/Review+of+all+Rights+Prote…> call scheduled for 04 May 2016 at 22:30 UTC. 1. Welcome and roll call/reminder to Members to create/update Statement of Interest (co-Chairs) 2. Overview of purpose of the meeting (Staff) 3. Webinar Presentation: Overview of Rights Protection Mechanisms (Staff) 4. Discussion/Q&A (Co-Chairs) 5. Meeting scheduling and other administrative matters (co-Chairs) 6. Next meeting / next steps (co-Chairs) Kind regards, Terri Dear All, The next call for the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) in all gTLDs PDP Working Group<https://community.icann.org/display/RARPMRIAGPWG/Review+of+all+Rights+Prote…> is scheduled for Wednesday, 4 May 2016 at 22:30 UTC for 60 minutes. 15:30 PDT, 18:30 EDT, 23:30 London 00:30 CEST For other times: http://tinyurl.com/h47wpog Adobe Connect WITH AUDIO enabled: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/gnso-rpm/ For those of you using the Adobe Connect audio, you may do so by activating your computer microphone via the Adobe room (Using a headset is preferable here). Make sure your speakers and microphone are not on mute. - Select the TELEPHONE ICON at the top of the AC toolbar and choose CONNECT MY AUDIO (only option). - Select USING COMPUTER twice - Select ALLOW access to the ICANN Adobe room - the TELEPHONE ICON at the top of the toolbar should then have changed into a MICROPHONE ICON - You may click on this MICROPHONE ICON to mute yourself (Icon will then have a line through it) and to unmute yourself (Line disappears) Participants must ALWAYS have their microphone or telephone on MUTE as default setting. You are requested to RAISE YOUR HAND if you wish to participate to avoid disruption. Dial-in details are below. If you require a dial-out, please let me know. Please confirm your dial-out requests to GNSO Secretariats gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> ______________________________________________________________________ Participant passcode: RPM Review Dial in numbers: Country Toll Numbers Freephone/ Toll Free Number ARGENTINA 0800-777-0519 AUSTRALIA ADELAIDE: 61-8-8121-4842 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA BRISBANE: 61-7-3102-0944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA CANBERRA: 61-2-6100-1944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA MELBOURNE: 61-3-9010-7713 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA PERTH: 61-8-9467-5223 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA SYDNEY: 61-2-8205-8129 1-800-657-260 AUSTRIA 43-1-92-81-113 0800-005-259 BELGIUM 32-2-400-9861 0800-3-8795 BRAZIL SAO PAULO: 55-11-3958-0779 0800-7610651 CHILE 1230-020-2863 CHINA CHINA A: 86-400-810-4789 10800-712-1670 CHINA CHINA B: 86-400-810-4789 10800-120-1670 COLOMBIA 01800-9-156474 CROATIA 080-08-06-309 CZECH REPUBLIC 420-2-25-98-56-64 800-700-177 DENMARK 45-7014-0284 8088-8324 ESTONIA 800-011-1093 FINLAND 358-9-5424-7162 0-800-9-14610 FRANCE LYON: 33-4-26-69-12-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE MARSEILLE: 33-4-86-06-00-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE PARIS: 33-1-70-70-60-72 080-511-1496 GERMANY 49-69-2222-20362 0800-664-4247 GREECE 30-80-1-100-0687 00800-12-7312 HONG KONG 852-3001-3863 800-962-856 HUNGARY 36-1-700-8856 06-800-12755 INDIA BANGALORE: 91-80-48030674 INDIA MUMBAI: 91-22-49412807 INDIA INDIA A: 000-800-852-1268 INDIA INDIA B: 000-800-001-6305 INDIA INDIA C: 1800-300-00491 INDONESIA 001-803-011-3982 IRELAND 353-1-246-7646 1800-992-368 ISRAEL 1-80-9216162 ITALY MILAN: 39-02-3600-6007 800-986-383 ITALY ROME: 39-06-8751-6018 800-986-383 ITALY TORINO: 39-011-510-0118 800-986-383 JAPAN OSAKA: 81-6-7878-2631 0066-33-132439 JAPAN TOKYO: 81-3-6868-2631 0066-33-132439 LATVIA 8000-3185 LUXEMBOURG 352-27-000-1364 8002-9246 MALAYSIA 1-800-81-3065 MEXICO GUADALAJARA (JAL): 52-33-3208-7310 001-866-376-9696 MEXICO MEXICO CITY: 52-55-5062-9110 001-866-376-9696 MEXICO MONTERREY: 52-81-2482-0610 001-866-376-9696 NETHERLANDS 31-20-718-8588 0800-023-4378 NEW ZEALAND 64-9-970-4771 0800-447-722 NORWAY 47-21-590-062 800-15157 PANAMA 011-001-800-5072065 PERU 0800-53713 PHILIPPINES 63-2-858-3716 1800-111-42453 POLAND 00-800-1212572 PORTUGAL 8008-14052 ROMANIA 40-31-630-01-79 RUSSIA 8-10-8002-0144011 SAUDI ARABIA 800-8-110087 SINGAPORE 65-6883-9230 800-120-4663 SLOVAK REPUBLIC 421-2-322-422-25 0800-002066 SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-80414 SOUTH KOREA 82-2-6744-1083 00798-14800-7352 SPAIN 34-91-414-25-33 800-300-053 SWEDEN 46-8-566-19-348 0200-884-622 SWITZERLAND 41-44-580-6398 0800-120-032 TAIWAN 886-2-2795-7379 00801-137-797 THAILAND 001-800-1206-66056 TURKEY 00-800-151-0516 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES 8000-35702370 UNITED KINGDOM BIRMINGHAM: 44-121-210-9025 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM GLASGOW: 44-141-202-3225 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LEEDS: 44-113-301-2125 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LONDON: 44-20-7108-6370 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM MANCHESTER: 44-161-601-1425 0808-238-6029 URUGUAY 000-413-598-3421 USA 1-517-345-9004 866-692-5726 VENEZUELA 0800-1-00-3702 Thank you. Kind regards, Michelle

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Slide deck from today's call.
by Lars Hoffmann May 4, 2016

May 4, 2016

Dear all, Please find the deck from today’s call together with other background information on the WG’s wiki page. https://community.icann.org/x/4SWAAw Note, once you created a profile on the ICANN Community Wiki you can ‘watch’ individual pages and you will receive automatic emails when new information is uploaded. Best. Lars

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