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Adobe outage: Please dial into audio bridge
by Nathalie Peregrine March 11, 2017

March 11, 2017

Dear all, Please dial into audio bridge passcode RPM. Phone numbers here: https://community.icann.org/x/HqfRAw We are hoping the AC rooms will be back up shortly Thanks, nathalie From: <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> Date: Saturday, March 11, 2017 at 10:48 AM To: "gnso-rpm-wg(a)icann.org" <gnso-rpm-wg(a)icann.org> Subject: [gnso-rpm-wg] Deloitte report Hello all – this is the report that Deloitte just sent to us, that is being discussed in the session at the moment. For those joining us remotely, apologies for the technical problem with the Adobe Connect room. We are trying to fix it as quickly as we can so we can show the document. Thanks and cheers Mary

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Remote Participation is Broken
by George Kirikos March 11, 2017

March 11, 2017

The Adobe Connect is not working. 503 Error, Server Unavailable Then, it starts to load, but is stuck on "Connecting....." Please fix. Sincerely, George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/

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Deloitte report
by Mary Wong March 11, 2017

March 11, 2017

Hello all – this is the report that Deloitte just sent to us, that is being discussed in the session at the moment. For those joining us remotely, apologies for the technical problem with the Adobe Connect room. We are trying to fix it as quickly as we can so we can show the document. Thanks and cheers Mary

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EFF article on the TMCH -- ICANN's Special Privileges for Trademark Owners are The.Worst
by George Kirikos March 11, 2017

March 11, 2017

Hi folks, The Electronic Frontier Foundation posted a timely article on the TMCH: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/03/icanns-special-privileges-trademark-o… https://www.eff.org/document/trademark-scholars-letter-icann-gnso-rpm-worki… Given their position, I hope that they will be actively participating in this working group. I see some of the signatories of the letter are already actively engaged. Sincerely, George Kirikos 416-588-0269 http://www.leap.com/

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ICANN58: GNSO Open Sessions How to Get Organized and Remote Participation Details
by Nathalie Peregrine March 10, 2017

March 10, 2017

Dear all, Pre-ICANN meeting email inboxes are full at the best of times, so the GNSO SO/AC Support team has created a one-stop wiki page for all your open meeting remote participation queries. In addition to this, the ICANN meetings website provides you with an easy to navigate schedule and the possibility of downloading all GNSO-related meetings to your inbox calendar in one go. 2 LINKS TO BOOKMARK NOW: ICANN58 Meeting Schedule<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__schedule.icann.org_&d=…> GNSO Remote Participation wiki page<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_…> Step 1 Go to the Meeting Schedule webpage, and if not done yet, create a log in when prompted. Every session on the schedule can be selected and added to your calendar inbox. To get a general description of the session, please hover your mouse over the session title and a summary of the session will appear as well as a “add to my schedule” option. Step 2 Please download the ICANN58 Mobile App to automatically receive the latest updates to your schedule (available on Apple and Android products, look for “ICANN58”) Step 3 All Adobe Connect rooms (which can be found on the session information on the Meeting Schedule and on the GNSO Remote Participation Wiki page) will provide audio streaming. If you cannot join an Adobe Connect room for a session, and will need to dial in with your phone, please refer to the GNSO Remote Participation wiki page for the audio pass codes and dial in numbers. Please also follow the previous steps if you wish to take part in the session over the phone. Terri Agnew will be onsite to assist you directly. For all GNSO meeting related queries (RP or others), please email us at: gnso-secs(a)icann.org<applewebdata://FB60497E-61D8-4FE9-BF9C-EB238191E416/gnso-secs@icann.org> and we will be more than happy to assist! Kind regards, GNSO SO/AC Support team

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Proposed meeting agendas for ICANN58
by Mary Wong March 8, 2017

March 8, 2017

Dear all, Please find below the Co-Chairs’ proposed meeting agendas for our two sessions at ICANN58. Staff will send a separate email with information on remote participation, locations and other logistical information for the sessions. Agenda for the 3-hour face-to-face Working Group meeting on Saturday 11 March (all times local to Copenhagen): 10.15 – 10.30: Welcome, roll call and review of PDP timeline and objectives for the day 10.30 – 11.30: Discussion with Vicky Folens (Deloitte) 11.30 – 12.15: Review all the TMCH Charter questions to see what questions require additional work/discussion, and what can be considered closed for the time being (please see additional notes below) 12.15 – 12.45: Lunch (this will be provided) 12.45 – 13.30: Continue/complete TMCH Charter questions discussion 13.30 – 13.45: Review updated Work Plan and agree on next steps NOTES: · For the TMCH Charter discussion, we will be using the tables that were most recently circulated, i.e. the tables comparing the TMCH Charter questions with the STI recommendations, Applicant Guidebook text, and other Program Documentation. There were a total of three such tables: one for Category 3, one for Categories 4-6, and one for Categories 1 & 2. · We will begin with completing our initial discussion on the Category 3 table (Question 11), followed by Categories 4-6 and finally, if time permits, Categories 1 & 2. · Please be sure to review all the tables before the Saturday meeting. All have been circulated (with the ones for Categories 1 & 2, and 4-6 distributed via email on Sunday 5 March) and can also be downloaded from this Working Group wiki page (under Comparison Charts): https://community.icann.org/x/_pHRAw. Agenda for the Open Community Session on Wednesday 15 March 2017 (0900 – 1030): 1. Welcome and introduction to the PDP 2. Status update & discussion: TMCH Charter questions - community input 3. Preview: Sunrise, Claims, registry operator private protections - community input 4. Next steps & PDP timeline Thanks and cheers Mary

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FEEDBACK REQUESTED: ICANN58 meeting agendas and a question on a particular rotational slot for future Working Group calls
by Mary Wong March 6, 2017

March 6, 2017

Dear all, Please take a moment to provide your feedback on the following two items: (1) ICANN58 Proposed Meeting Agendas Please see the attached, which was also displayed in the Adobe Connect room during the meeting that just ended, and send any comments or suggestions you may have to this list so that the Co-Chairs can take your feedback into consideration in planning our sessions at ICANN58. (2) Rotational Meeting Question The Co-Chairs would like to request feedback, particularly from our Asia-Pacific-based members, as to whether it will be preferable to change the DAY (not the time) of the one meeting (out of every four) that is held at 0400 UTC. At the moment, it is at 0400 UTC on Wednesdays (for Europe, Middle East, Africa, Asia and Australia/NZ) – which is Tuesday night for North America. Should this be changed to 0400 UTC on THURSDAYS (making it Wednesday night for North America, and Thursday morning/day time for EMEA and APAC)? Thanks and cheers Mary

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FOR REVIEW: Additional Documents & Action Items from 1 March 2017 Working Group call
by Mary Wong March 5, 2017

March 5, 2017

Dear all, Please find attached two additional staff-prepared tables for your review as we prepare to go into our meetings at ICANN58. These are tables that do for TMCH Charter Categories 1 & 2, and again for Categories 4, 5 & 6, what was done for Category 3 that we discussed on our last Working Group call, i.e. tabular comparison of the specific Charter questions with the STI recommendations, text of the Applicant Guidebook, and other relevant documentation prepared for the 2012 New gTLD Program Round. Please note that in the interests of time, these tables are being circulated to everyone at the same time and so they have not yet been reviewed by our Working Group co-chairs. These two documents, as well as the table for Category 3, have also been uploaded to the Working Group wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/_pHRAw. From the last Working Group call, the action items captured by staff were the following: 1. Working Group to consider forming a sub group to consider whether, for “design marks” there is a discrepancy between the intended scope of the TMCH (as indicated by the STI recommendations and Applicant Guidebook language) and its application by Deloitte · Question: Should this work commence after further feedback is received from Deloitte? · Volunteers so far: Martin Silva Valent, John McElwaine, Rebecca Tushnet · Note: Check with Deloitte if one reason for the language and scope of the Guidelines on this point was practical and/or technical considerations due to the TMCH having to accept trademarks from all jurisdictions, but not all jurisdictions distinguishing between a standard word or character mark, and a design (or device or image) mark 2. Working Group to clarify with Deloitte if they accepted geographical indications purely either because the G.I. was a registered trademark or one that was demonstrably protected by a statute or treaty. Finally, staff is working with the co-chairs to have meeting agendas for our two ICANN58 sessions finalized. We hope to have these to you all by this Wednesday. Note that there is no Working Group meeting this coming Wednesday, so that our next meeting will be at ICANN58, on Saturday 11 March 2017 at 10.15 a.m. Copenhagen time (for those joining the meeting remotely, please see the email from Nathalie Peregrine that provides the call-in and Adobe Connect details). Thanks and cheers Mary From: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> Date: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 15:03 To: "gnso-rpm-wg(a)icann.org" <gnso-rpm-wg(a)icann.org> Subject: Agenda for Working Group call on Wednesday 1 March 2017 Dear all, The proposed agenda for our next Working Group meeting on 1 March 2017, at 1700 UTC, is as follows: 1. Roll call (via Adobe Connect and phone bridge only) and updates to Statements of Interest 2. Discuss whether the TMCH as operated today fulfills the requirements in the Applicant Guidebook for the 2012 New gTLD Program round for specified TMCH Charter Questions (see below) 3. Review and agree on proposed agenda for the Working Group meetings at ICANN58 4. Reminder: remote participation for ICANN58 sessions 5. Next steps/next meeting (note: no Working Group call scheduled for 8 March 2017) For Agenda Item #2, please refer to the materials that were circulated on Friday 24 February (i.e. the June 2012 TMCH framework published in Module 5 of the Applicant Guidebook, the December 2009 recommendations from the Special Trademark Issues (STI) Review Team, and the chronological table of documents, community work and other milestones in the development of the final form of the TMCH) as well as a further summary table that will be circulated very shortly. Proposed agendas for the ICANN58 sessions will also be circulated as soon as they are available. All documents will be posted to the Working Group wiki page for this call for your easy reference. Thanks and cheers Mary

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LAST CALL: Follow up questions for Deloitte
by Mary Wong March 4, 2017

March 4, 2017

Dear all, Not having received any further feedback, including on the additional suggestions of examples for Deloitte, staff would like to suggest that we go ahead and send what we have to Deloitte so that they will have at least an initial list of follow up questions and examples first thing Monday morning. However, we will be sure to note that there may be additional or supplemental questions and/or examples to come. We are also pleased to inform everyone that Vicky Folens from Deloitte has confirmed that she will be in Copenhagen and able to join our Working Group for our Saturday 11 March face-to-face meeting. Staff is working with the Co-Chairs to finalize an agenda for that meeting as well as our open community session on Wednesday 15 March, based on the proposed agendas that were circulated for your feedback after our call this past Wednesday. Please let us know if you have any additional comments. Thanks and cheers Mary On 3/2/17, 11:26, "Mary Wong" <mary.wong(a)icann.org> wrote: Thanks much, George – I apologize that I had omitted to ask Working Group members if they support inclusion of the three additional examples you’d suggested. All, please chime in with your thoughts as soon as you can. Thank you! Cheers Mary On 3/2/17, 05:41, "George Kirikos" <icann(a)leap.com> wrote: For the list of example marks in Annex A, (there are only 3 at present, namely CARS, PARENTS and FRUIT OF THE LOOM), I had thought we were also going to include the 3 additional ones at: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/2017-February/001064.html namely for "MUSIC", "DEALHUNTER" and the stylized letter 'A' ?? When the the topic originally came up, I think we had wanted to get at least 5 examples (so this would make a total of 6). Sincerely, George Kirikos 416-588-0269 https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIFaQ&… On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 8:09 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> wrote: > Dear all, > > > > Please find attached a compilation of all the questions that the Working > Group has agreed to send to Deloitte for follow up and additional feedback. > As mentioned on the call earlier today, we are hoping to send out the list > by the end of this week, to allow Deloitte a chance to review the list > before meeting with us at ICANN58 in Copenhagen. We will therefore greatly > appreciate it if you can let us know if you see any omissions, inaccuracies > or mistakes that need correction in the attached document by 1200 UTC this > Friday, 3 March 2017. > > > > Please note the following as well: > > > > · As noted on the call today, it is unlikely that Deloitte will be > able to provide answers to the questions in time for our meetings at > ICANN58; however, we hope that sending them the list before then will allow > for a constructive discussion at ICANN58. > > > > · The attached list does not include the following questions that > were also suggested: > > > > “Ask Deloitte for a list of all TMCH registrations with Sunrise preference > and to indicate which are dictionary terms” – staff is uncertain what this > question is aimed to elicit, and we are also concerned that Deloitte may not > wish to provide specific lists or engage on the question of what are, and > are not, dictionary terms. We therefore suggest rephrasing this question if > it is still deemed to be needed. > > > > “Ask Deloitte if a separate SMD file is created for each additional > Previously-Abused Label that is added” – in view of the fact that these > labels are not used for Sunrise registrations but only to generate Claims > Notices, we would like to ask if this question is still needed. > > > > Thanks and cheers > > Mary > > > _______________________________________________ > gnso-rpm-wg mailing list > gnso-rpm-wg(a)icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg

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FOR REVIEW: Follow up questions for Deloitte
by Mary Wong March 2, 2017

March 2, 2017

Dear all, Please find attached a compilation of all the questions that the Working Group has agreed to send to Deloitte for follow up and additional feedback. As mentioned on the call earlier today, we are hoping to send out the list by the end of this week, to allow Deloitte a chance to review the list before meeting with us at ICANN58 in Copenhagen. We will therefore greatly appreciate it if you can let us know if you see any omissions, inaccuracies or mistakes that need correction in the attached document by 1200 UTC this Friday, 3 March 2017. Please note the following as well: · As noted on the call today, it is unlikely that Deloitte will be able to provide answers to the questions in time for our meetings at ICANN58; however, we hope that sending them the list before then will allow for a constructive discussion at ICANN58. · The attached list does not include the following questions that were also suggested: “Ask Deloitte for a list of all TMCH registrations with Sunrise preference and to indicate which are dictionary terms” – staff is uncertain what this question is aimed to elicit, and we are also concerned that Deloitte may not wish to provide specific lists or engage on the question of what are, and are not, dictionary terms. We therefore suggest rephrasing this question if it is still deemed to be needed. “Ask Deloitte if a separate SMD file is created for each additional Previously-Abused Label that is added” – in view of the fact that these labels are not used for Sunrise registrations but only to generate Claims Notices, we would like to ask if this question is still needed. Thanks and cheers Mary

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