April 2007 - NA-Discuss - lists.icann.org

Re: [NA-Discuss] NARALO Formation Meeting
by Wendy Seltzer April 10, 2007

April 10, 2007

Yes, that's why I suggest RALO-formation meetings be concurrent with ICANN meetings. Nice to have our powerlessness spelled out a bit further, though. --Wendy -----Original Message----- From: jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com Subj: RE: [NA-Discuss] NARALO Formation Meeting Date: Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:37 pm Size: 3K To: Wendy Seltzer <wendy(a)seltzer.com> cc: "'Luc Faubert'" <LFaubert(a)conceptum.ca>, na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Hello Wendy I ran this again past the ICANN VP in charge of the AtLArge budget. In theory and in practicality, ICANN has indicated that funds have been allocated specifically to RALO formation work. This isn't a NA budget, or an EU, LAC, AF or AP budget. A possible scenario is that if the NA region doesn't want to have this meeting, or form a RALO, the funds budgeted for this year for RALO formation may be used for attendees to the LAC GA in San Juan, or more AP ALS reps to the November ICANN meeting for the AP official MoU signing, and not necessarily on other ALAC items we might want that are not RALO-connected. Remember that ALAC has no discretionary funds - it's ICANN's At Large Director and VP that have control of the AtLarge budget. We can and do suggest activities that we would like funded, but ICANN Staff determines exactly how those funds are expended. We are more than halfway though the current fiscal year already. So funding is NOT a valid reason for objection, according to the people who hold the purse strings. Jacqueline Quoting Wendy Seltzer <wendy(a)seltzer.com>: > While that may be true in thepry, the practical reality is that > ICANN allocates finite funds to at-large activities. The more we > spend in one place, the less we have available for other things the > group might find more valuable. > > --Wendy > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Jacqueline A. Morris" <jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com> > Subj: RE: [NA-Discuss] NARALO Formation Meeting > Date: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:29 am > Size: 3K > To: "'Wendy Seltzer'" <wendy(a)seltzer.com>, "'Luc Faubert'" > <LFaubert(a)conceptum.ca>, <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > Hi Wendy > The meeting in NY will not affect funding for San Juan. Funding has been > allocated to bring ALSes from the region to the ICANN meeting in the region. > Funding was also allocated for at least one f2f in advance of the ICANN > meeting at which the RALO was to be signed, for each region. Funding for > these meetings is not only from the AtLarge budget at ICANN, but other ICANN > budget line items as well. > > So - to be clear, funding is NOT a valid reason to say no to the meeting. > > Jacqueline > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wendy Seltzer [mailto:wendy@seltzer.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:35 AM > To: Luc Faubert; na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] NARALO Formation Meeting > > Neither the full ALAC nor its North American members have approved this > meeting. It was sprung on us all by staff. > > I am arguing against this one for the same reasons I argued against > Vancouver: the group will ultimately have to work online and should use its > limited budget to attend as many full-ICANN meetings as possible. We can > draft documents as we have been, on the wiki and lists, but we can't talk to > Board and other Constituency members over drinks and in hallways online. > > --Wendy > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Luc Faubert" <LFaubert(a)conceptum.ca> > Subj: RE: [NA-Discuss] NARALO Formation Meeting > Date: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:29 am > Size: 3K > To: "Wendy Seltzer" <wendy(a)seltzer.com>, > <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > If we are to stick to our initial plan of signing the NARALO-ICANN MOU in > San Juan in June, it is imperative that we agree on our MOU and Operating > principles before then. In this light, I think that -- as I argued when we > were discussing the possibility of meeting in Vancouver last February -- a > face to face meeting could be helpful to advance our discussions and I am --- message truncated ---

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Re: [NA-Discuss] NARALO Formation Meeting
by Wendy Seltzer April 10, 2007

April 10, 2007

Neither the full ALAC nor its North American members have approved this meeting. It was sprung on us all by staff. I am arguing against this one for the same reasons I argued against Vancouver: the group will ultimately have to work online and should use its limited budget to attend as many full-ICANN meetings as possible. We can draft documents as we have been, on the wiki and lists, but we can't talk to Board and other Constituency members over drinks and in hallways online. --Wendy -----Original Message----- From: "Luc Faubert" <LFaubert(a)conceptum.ca> Subj: RE: [NA-Discuss] NARALO Formation Meeting Date: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:29 am Size: 3K To: "Wendy Seltzer" <wendy(a)seltzer.com>, <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> If we are to stick to our initial plan of signing the NARALO-ICANN MOU in San Juan in June, it is imperative that we agree on our MOU and Operating principles before then. In this light, I think that -- as I argued when we were discussing the possibility of meeting in Vancouver last February -- a face to face meeting could be helpful to advance our discussions and I am willing to attend the NY meeting to represent ISOC Québec. I suppose the ALAC has approved this planned meeting in NY. One question that comes to my mind is why approve this meeting after having refused to hold a similar meeting in Vancouver in February. This is not a matter of arguing for a meeting in Canada vs the US; I would just like to understand the decision. Regarding funding for a face to face meeting prior to San Juan and our discussions on the issue, my recollection is that opinions diverged. Some ALSes thought a face to face meeting was not necessary, others wanted one. As for our ALAC reps, they thought a meeting was not necessary and consequently refused to fund the Vancouver meeting. As for the availability of travels funds, my understanding is that holding the preparatory meeting in NY does not preclude ICANN funding our presence in San Juan, _________________________________________ Luc Faubert Conseiller en gouvernance TI et en gestion du changement / IT governance and change management consulting +1 514 236 5129 www.LucFaubert.com www.isoc.qc.ca www.ccig.ca www.maillons.qc.ca > -----Original Message----- > From: na-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf > Of Wendy Seltzer > Sent: 10 avril 2007 05:28 > To: na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] NARALO Formation Meeting > > Although an invitation has been sent, the choice whether to > hold the meeting still rests with those in the region. We > can opt to hold the funding for travel to ICANN's > thrice-yearly meetings instead. > > Bret's recollection matches mine, that since ICANN ALAC > funds are finite, we had consensus that we'd all be better > served saving those for travel to ICANN meetings and > organizing pre-RALO activities around those face-to-face > meetings where we can also meet face-to-face with others in > the ICANN circle. The next ICANN meeting is at the end of > June in San Juan, Puerto Rico, and we could far more usefully > meet in person there. > > Invite reattached here for those not reading the duplicative > NA-ALS list. > --Wendy > > At 03:23 AM 4/10/2007, Jacqueline A. Morris wrote: > >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01C7_01C77B1F.A39C7190" > >Content-Language: en-us > > > >Hello Michael > > > >I was checking the archives to get up to date on the > discussions in the > >NA region and saw this email, among a whole flurry of emails > about the > >activities report I wrote for the ALAC teleconference > tomorrow. I was a > >little taken aback to see that this could be considered "disturbing > >news", so decided to reply to attempt to allay your > concerns. The group > >that is convening this meeting is ICANN. > > > >Yes - the report is accurate, but not timely. > >The invitation was delayed owing to the Easter holiday, and > was due to > >be sent out today, Tuesday. I did the report early owing to the > >holiday, and the invitation was later for the same reason. It wasn't > >any sort of conspiracy. > > > >Anyway, about the invitation - The English version was sent a little > >while ago, and the French translation will be sent a bit later, when > >the North American West Coast based staff are up and about (sorry, I > >don't speak French). > >As well, sorry for the short notice, but the holiday really > did mess up > >the timing. > > > >There was loads of discussion on the NA list (see archives) about > >wanting a f2f meeting, and some direct requests, and given the > >opportunity offered, ICANN's At Large staff suggested last --- message truncated ---

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ICANN San Juan Meeting Attendance and Visas - IMPORTANT!
by ICANN At Large Staff April 10, 2007

April 10, 2007

Dear Latin America & The Caribbean and North American ALS representatives: As you know, the next ICANN International Meeting is in San Juan, Puerto Rico, from 25 - 29 June 2007. There will certainly be funding for the North American region to attend the San Juan meeting - more details about that will be forthcoming later in April. We want to do everything possible to make funding available for the LAC Region to hold their first General Assembly in Lisbon, on Sunday, 27th June. It is unusual to have a region attend two ICANN conferences in less than a year, but we all felt it was worthwhile to bring LAC so that the first RALO GA could be held. To that end, we are working on saving as much as possible on other expenses, but it will still be very tight - so we cannot guarantee that we will be able to bring everyone in for a face to face meeting, for example; some might need to attend via remote video and audio links, and some attend in person - we are aiming for every ALS to be able to send a delegate - and we will know shortly. What you should do RIGHT NOW though is begin the visa applications proces!. It can take three months from beginning to end - and even if an attendee does not get to come due to shortage of funds for the LAC meeting, ICANN would still recompense you for the costs of the visa application. ALL LAC representatives are urged to review visa information at: http://icannsanjuan.pr/visa.php URGENTLY. Note that there is a URL to provide the information needed to get a letter of invitation - this can be found at http://icannsanjuan.pr/invitation.php. -- Regards, ICANN At Large Main Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011] USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135

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Off on Leave, 10th - 24th April
by Nick Ashton-Hart April 7, 2007

April 7, 2007

Dear All: I will be on leave from 10th to 24th April and not checking emails - you will get a holiday message if you email me, telling me whom to contact with queries, but here's the details in any case: Travel reimbursement requests for Lisbon: accountspayable(a)icann.org, copied to travel-staff(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org At-Large staff queries and needs: staff(a)alac.icann.org Everything else (can't wait to see my inbox) I will deal with on my return - anything you need whilst I'm away will get sorted if you send to one of the above-referenced. I hope everyone has a great Easter - I'm now signing off. I look forward to starting my 4th decade of life with all of you later this month :) -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom Main Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011] USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Re: [NA-Discuss] [At-Large] Top Ten List
by Nick Ashton-Hart April 5, 2007

April 5, 2007

Perhaps, once we get a group of topics, we could use the polling system to let people show there preferences - the top 3 or something? On 05/04/07, jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com <jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com> wrote: > > > Hi Randy > > Please spit out youo top issues on the site at > https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?alac_top_10_issues > > (make a comment and it will show up on the page) > > We'll compile and sort out the issues in a while. I agree with you that we > can't focus on 10 issues at once, but once we see how many people think an > issue is important, we can start to prioritise. > > Jacqueline > > Quoting "RJGlass | America@Large" <jipshida(a)gmail.com>: > > > I think it would be an idea to put up a top-10. > > > > Of course, we can't tackle 10 issues simultaneously, we have trouble with > > more than one. However, it would give us a good idea of where to start > > tackling issues. I could spit out 5 relatively quickly by myself. > > > > aloha, > > Randy Glass > > A@L > > > > On 4/2/07, Danny Younger <dannyyounger(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> > >> Nick, > >> > >> I would appreciate knowing what the ALAC believes are > >> the top ten issues currently affecting the at-large > >> community. Would you be good enough to raise this > >> matter at the next ALAC monthly meeting so that we can > >> eventually set a forward-going agenda that will tackle > >> these issues? > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Danny > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > >> Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > >> Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. > >> > http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> ALAC mailing list > >> ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >> > >> > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org > >> > >> www.alac.icann.org > >> www.icannalac.org > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > ------------------------- > > AmericaAtLarge.org > > RJPacific.com > > DDMF.org > > > -- > Jacqueline A. Morris > www.jacquelinemorris.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > NA-Discuss mailing list > NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists.ic… > --- > Draft MoU with ICANN: > http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_MOU > > Draft Operating Principles: > http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_OP > > -- -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom UK Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Re: [NA-Discuss] [At-Large] Top Ten List
by RJGlass | America＠Large April 5, 2007

April 5, 2007

I think it would be an idea to put up a top-10. Of course, we can't tackle 10 issues simultaneously, we have trouble with more than one. However, it would give us a good idea of where to start tackling issues. I could spit out 5 relatively quickly by myself. aloha, Randy Glass A@L On 4/2/07, Danny Younger <dannyyounger(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > Nick, > > I would appreciate knowing what the ALAC believes are > the top ten issues currently affecting the at-large > community. Would you be good enough to raise this > matter at the next ALAC monthly meeting so that we can > eventually set a forward-going agenda that will tackle > these issues? > > Best regards, > Danny > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. > http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html > > > _______________________________________________ > ALAC mailing list > ALAC(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org > > www.alac.icann.org > www.icannalac.org > -- ------------------------- AmericaAtLarge.org RJPacific.com DDMF.org

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Re: [NA-Discuss] [At-Large] Top Ten List
by Vittorio Bertola April 2, 2007

April 2, 2007

Danny Younger ha scritto: > Nick, > > I would appreciate knowing what the ALAC believes are > the top ten issues currently affecting the at-large > community. Would you be good enough to raise this > matter at the next ALAC monthly meeting so that we can > eventually set a forward-going agenda that will tackle > these issues? I'm not sure that we can tackle ten issues at the same time, personally I would be focused on the post-Registerfly activities, which include getting escrow actually in place, ensuring proper compliance tools and activities, and a longer term process to add better protections for registrants, partly through RAA changes (for example regarding guarantees for transfer-away procedures) and partly through best practices (for example for what regards resellers setting themselves as registrants in place of the actual ones). I am sure that you noticed our statement on this matter! Thanks to Peter Dengate Thrush who moved it, the Board approved a specific resolution that requires Twomey to devise a process by San Juan (see http://www.icann.org/minutes/resolutions-30mar07.htm#_Toc36876534 ) - we would like to make the best possible use of this opportunity. Of course, specific suggestions and contributions would be welcome. -- vb. Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu <-------- --------> finally with a new website at http://bertola.eu/ <--------

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Re: [NA-Discuss] {Spam?} Top Ten List
by Nick Ashton-Hart April 2, 2007

April 2, 2007

FYI, the best address to use is not the committee(a)alac.icann.org address - this is being phased out as an incredible amount of spam comes through it - the worldwide ALAC list has all the committee members in it. On 02/04/07, Danny Younger <dannyyounger(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > Nick, > > I would appreciate knowing what the ALAC believes are > the top ten issues currently affecting the at-large > community. Would you be good enough to raise this > matter at the next ALAC monthly meeting so that we can > eventually set a forward-going agenda that will tackle > these issues? > > Best regards, > Danny > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. > http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html > -- -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom UK Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Re: [NA-Discuss] Fwd: Franck Martin Re: Web security and domain names in the Pacific
by Nick Ashton-Hart April 2, 2007

April 2, 2007

Not really - he just needs to join the list. I've let him know as he asked me about it directly. On 02/04/07, Wendy Seltzer <wendy(a)seltzer.com> wrote: > > Posting for Franck, who's having trouble with list authorization: > -------- Original Message -------- > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: "Franck Martin" <franck.martin(a)gmail.com> > > To: "NA Discuss" <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 06:38:11 +1200 > > Subject: Web security and domain names in the Pacific > > SUVA, FIJI ---- Leading Pacific ICT professionals have condemned recent > > reports that the region is a major source of Internet porn and online > > threats. > > > > A number of members of the Pacific Islands Chapter of the Internet > Society > > (PICISOC) expressed disappointment over poor standards of reporting by > > Michael Field in his article "Pacific atolls host world's most dangerous > > websites", released last month by Fairfax Media, New Zealand. > > > > The article was based on a recent study carried out by United States > (US) > > Internet security company, McAfee, which assessed and rated online > safety > > risks of 265 countries' top-level domains (TLDs), among others. > > > > "It is unfortunate that this important study has been so drastically > > misinterpreted and poorly reported," says PICISOC Chair, Rajnesh > Dhirendra > > Singh. > > > > "We are particularly concerned with repercussions such a story may have > on > > the development of ICTs in the region, and the international, regional > and > > national perceptions of Internet use and content delivery in the > Pacific." > > > > [...] > > For the full article: > > > > > http://www.islandsbusiness.com/news/index_dynamic/containerNameToReplace=Mi… > > > > -- > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > Franck Martin > > franck.martin(a)gmail.com > > "Toute connaissance est une réponse à une question" > > G. Bachelard > > > > > > -- > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Franck Martin > franck.martin(a)gmail.com > "Toute connaissance est une réponse à une question" > G. Bachelard > > > -- > Wendy Seltzer -- wendy(a)seltzer.org > phone: 718.780.7961 // fax: 718.780.0394 // cell: 914.374.0613 > Visiting Assistant Professor of Law, Brooklyn Law School > Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society > http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html > http://www.chillingeffects.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > NA-Discuss mailing list > NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists.ic… > --- > Draft MoU with ICANN: > http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_MOU > > Draft Operating Principles: > http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_OP > -- -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom UK Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Fwd: Franck Martin Re: Web security and domain names in the Pacific
by Wendy Seltzer April 2, 2007

April 2, 2007

Posting for Franck, who's having trouble with list authorization: -------- Original Message -------- > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Franck Martin" <franck.martin(a)gmail.com> > To: "NA Discuss" <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 06:38:11 +1200 > Subject: Web security and domain names in the Pacific > SUVA, FIJI ---- Leading Pacific ICT professionals have condemned recent > reports that the region is a major source of Internet porn and online > threats. > > A number of members of the Pacific Islands Chapter of the Internet Society > (PICISOC) expressed disappointment over poor standards of reporting by > Michael Field in his article "Pacific atolls host world's most dangerous > websites", released last month by Fairfax Media, New Zealand. > > The article was based on a recent study carried out by United States (US) > Internet security company, McAfee, which assessed and rated online safety > risks of 265 countries' top-level domains (TLDs), among others. > > "It is unfortunate that this important study has been so drastically > misinterpreted and poorly reported," says PICISOC Chair, Rajnesh Dhirendra > Singh. > > "We are particularly concerned with repercussions such a story may have on > the development of ICTs in the region, and the international, regional and > national perceptions of Internet use and content delivery in the Pacific." > > [...] > For the full article: > > http://www.islandsbusiness.com/news/index_dynamic/containerNameToReplace=Mi… > > -- > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Franck Martin > franck.martin(a)gmail.com > "Toute connaissance est une réponse à une question" > G. Bachelard > -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Franck Martin franck.martin(a)gmail.com "Toute connaissance est une réponse à une question" G. Bachelard -- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy(a)seltzer.org phone: 718.780.7961 // fax: 718.780.0394 // cell: 914.374.0613 Visiting Assistant Professor of Law, Brooklyn Law School Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html http://www.chillingeffects.org/

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