September 2022 - NA-Discuss

Meeting invitation: NARALO Monthly teleconference & prep session for the GA on Monday, 10 October 2022 at 19:00 UTC
by ICANN At-Large Staff Oct. 10, 2022

Oct. 10, 2022

**If you require a dial-out or need to state an apology, please contact At-Large staff at staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<file:///composeviewinternalloadurl/staff@atlarge.icann.org> with your preferred number.** Dear All, The next NARALO Monthly teleconference & prep session for the GA is scheduled for Monday, 10 October 2022 at 19:00 UTC 90 minutes. For other times: https://tinyurl.com/bdz7ys5b The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at: https://community.icann.org/x/VIG8D ZOOM REGISTRATION LINK: https://icann.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJckdO6hpjksGNxWVydhkJSyenOk1sCJ94Eq Password: NARAOCT10* ****PLEASE REGISTER TO ATTEND**** NARALO Wiki Space: https://community.icann.org/x/N5Qi If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<https://owa.icann.org/owa/PolicyCalendar@icann.org/?offline=disabled> Thank you. Kind Regards, ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<https://owa.icann.org/owa/PolicyCalendar@icann.org/?offline=disabled> Website: atlarge.icann.org<https://owa.icann.org/owa/PolicyCalendar@icann.org/?offline=disabled> Facebook: facebook.com/icannatlarge<https://owa.icann.org/owa/PolicyCalendar@icann.org/?offline=disabled> Twitter: @ICANNAtLarge<https://owa.icann.org/owa/PolicyCalendar@icann.org/?offline=disabled>

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VOTE RESULTS: NARALO Rules of Procedure 2022 Revision
by ICANN At-Large Staff Sept. 29, 2022

Sept. 29, 2022

Dear all, The NARALO ROP Revision 1, September 2022, has been approved. Eighteen voted "YES" and one "NO"; 17 "YES" votes were required to pass (i.e. > 70% of the electorate). Please see the detailed vote results below. NARALO Rules of Procedure 2022 Revision - ALS Poll ID: 175964 As at Poll close: Wednesday 14 September 2022 23:59 UTC Number of voters: 19 · Group size: 23 · Percentage voted: 82.61 Vote counting method: V1 FPTP (first-past-the-post) Ranked by votes Rank Vote Option ID Vote Option Votes % Voters 1 16157344 Yes 18 94.74 Eduardo Diaz Diaz, Glenn McKnight McKnight, Monique Chartrand Chartrand, Alan Greenberg Greenberg, Dana Perry Perry, Judith Hellerstein Hellerstein, Loris Taylor Taylor, Marita Moll Moll, Yubelkys Montalvo Montalvo Carrión, Kenneth L. Whitehurst Whitehurst, Gordon Chillcott Chillcott, Pierre-Jean Darres Darres, Jose R. Lebron Lebron, Gregory Shatan Shatan, Jessica Starkey Starkey, Dr. Pablo Rodríguez Feliciano Rodriguez, Bev Collins Collins, Dustin Phillips Loup 2 16157345 No 1 5.26 Evan Leibovitch Leibovitch 3 16157346 Abstain 0 0.00 Total votes: 19 Thank you. Kind Regards, ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<applewebdata://932FA082-AAF3-456B-A040-A1DAA84DB45D/staff@atlarge.icann.org> Website: atlarge.icann.org<applewebdata://932FA082-AAF3-456B-A040-A1DAA84DB45D/atlarge.icann.org> Facebook: facebook.com/icannatlarge<applewebdata://932FA082-AAF3-456B-A040-A1DAA84DB45D/facebook.com/icannatlar…> Twitter: @ICANNAtLarge<applewebdata://932FA082-AAF3-456B-A040-A1DAA84DB45D/@ICANNAtLarge>

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Reminder of Pre-GA Orientation call
by Glenn McKnight Sept. 27, 2022

Sept. 27, 2022

Folks Don't forget to attend the October monthly call on Oct 10th at 3pm to get the latest updates on ICANN logistics for hotel, travel etc and we will go into detail on the proposed program for the two day event In addition, an ARIN for Newcomers is scheduled for Oct 11th and this session was offered at the time of your ARIN registration Glenn McKnight, MA Virtual School of Internet Governance Chief Information Officer www.virtualsig.org *YOUR SOURCE FOR INTERNET GOVERNANCE EDUCATION * *Mobile 437-237-4655*

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Please register and share - JOIN US! | ICANN75 Multilingual read-out (by EURALO)| Tuesday 04 October 2022 at 17:00 UTC
by ICANN At-Large Staff Sept. 26, 2022

Sept. 26, 2022

Please join us and spread the word! Interpretation English, Español, Русский (French not available) Dear All, On behalf of Sébastien Bachollet, Chair of EURALO, and in collaboration with ICANN and EURALO, please join us for the ICANN75 multi-lingual read-out on Tuesday, 04 October 2022 from 17:00-19:00 UTC. This readout webinar, in a pitch tour format, is to summarize and discuss selected topics from the ICANN75 Meeting. Speakers from the different constituencies will provide an overview of the highlights and key take-aways. Agenda page: https://community.icann.org/x/QQPVD ZOOM REGISTRATION required: https://icann.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJAtdOqhpjsqHdQOObCn0xsI3BZ4m7xfzrCE Important: Please keep note of the zoom room as you will be sent an unique link! Zoom will be in English. To join the language channels, please dial in to the ADIGO bridge, using 1638 ID and inform the operator of the language channel you wish to join or send staff your dial-out request with the language channel. Please join us and spread the word! Thank you. Kind Regards, At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org [atlarge.icann.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/atlarge.icann.org/__;!!PtGJab4!uMsTNLP_N…> Facebook: facebook.com/icann [facebook.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.facebook.com/icannatlarge__;!!PtGJab…>atlarge [facebook.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.facebook.com/icannatlarge__;!!PtGJab…> Twitter: @ [twitter.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge__;!!PtGJab4!uMs…>ICANNAtLarge [twitter.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge__;!!PtGJab4!uMs…>

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Rules of Procedure vote - results?
by Evan Leibovitch Sept. 26, 2022

Sept. 26, 2022

I was told that the vote deadline was Sep 15. It's been more than a week since then, and BigPulse produces an instant tally when voting ends. So....? Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada @evanleibovitch / @el56

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Re: [NA-Discuss] I'm voting against changes to the NARALO Rules
by Alan Greenberg Sept. 13, 2022

Sept. 13, 2022

At 2022-09-13 04:08 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote: >On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 3:22 PM Alan Greenberg ><<mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca>alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> wrote: >Can you enlarge on that. The new rules remove the requirement to >participate in meetings or other events and to vote. The major new >requirement is to allow At-Large to send occasional messages to ALS members. > > >In my original mail sent 10 hours ago. nothing in the above were in >my list of objections. > >There is also a requirement that the representative update us on the >ALS status every 2 years. Is that onerous? > > >5.7 - Giving new, undefined and fully discretionary powers to the >chair that did not exist before and are not necessary > >6.1.1 Extending the terms of of leadership unnecessarily > >6.2 Extending term limits, also completely unnecessarily > >7.2.1 Demands made on ALSs for needless service with no >corresponding new benefit > >Pretty well the entirety of Appendix A and Appendix B It would be helpful if you could be more specific. The group that developed the new ALS responsibilities were VERY conscious about not making unreasonable or useless demands. Note that the first 4 bullets in Appendix A are the things that will disappear. What is left: 1. Allow us to send occasional messages to the ALS members (which you said you do not object to) 2. Report in every 2 years 3. Mention ICANN/At-large on your website (or other Internet presence) - which was always a requirement 4. Representative should respond if contacted, and involve their ALS members *IF* such a contribution seems appropriate (ALS decision) 5. Provide a link or email address to allow prospective ALS members to contact the ALS. What needless onerous service were you referring to? Alan >THAT's what's onerous, and outrageously so. It seems like the >authors have totally lost touch with the concept of who is in service to who. > >- Evan >

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Re: [NA-Discuss] I'm voting against changes to the NARALO Rules
by Alan Greenberg Sept. 13, 2022

Sept. 13, 2022

See https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/na-discuss/2022-August/011716.html for the comment period announcement. Alan At 2022-09-13 03:08 PM, Evan Leibovitch via NA-Discuss wrote: >On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 4:55 AM Glenn McKnight ><<mailto:mcknight.glenn@gmail.com>mcknight.glenn(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Your opinion has been noted > > >It would have been nice to have such an opinion "noted" BEFORE a >ratification vote was held. > >There was NOTHING previously sent to the NARALO mailing list in the >past months that suggested that such a major change was coming, and >thus would offer ALSs to look at a late draft. > ><https://community.icann.org/display/NARALO/NARALO+Rules+of+Procedure+-+upda…>According >to the wiki, August 18-31 was the (unannounced) comment period. > >REALLY? > >Even if it had been announced, we are talking about the heart of >summer vacation time and expecting to get substantial comments >during that time is ... nuts. > >Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada >@evanleibovitch / @el56 >------ >NA-Discuss mailing list >NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > >Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >------ >_______________________________________________ >By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of >your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list >accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy >(https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of >Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the >Mailman link above to change your membership status or >configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style >delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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Re: [NA-Discuss] I'm voting against changes to the NARALO Rules
by Alan Greenberg Sept. 13, 2022

Sept. 13, 2022

Can you enlarge on that. The new rules remove the requirement to participate in meetings or other events and to vote. The major new requirement is to allow At-Large to send occasional messages to ALS members. There is also a requirement that the representative update us on the ALS status every 2 years. Is that onerous? Alan At 2022-09-13 04:41 AM, Evan Leibovitch via NA-Discuss wrote: >And don't even get me started about the insanity of the proposed >participation standards. I have maintained for decades that we >should be generous about who we admit and stingy about who we kick >out. These new "standards" just serve to further limit the reach of >ICANN At-Large to the groups and people who are able to invest >substantial time to learn its culture.

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I'm voting against changes to the NARALO Rules
by Evan Leibovitch Sept. 13, 2022

Sept. 13, 2022

There are so, so many things wrong with these changes <https://community.icann.org/display/NARALO/Revised+NARALO+ROP+for+the+Membe…> . The one that stands out is the proposed extension of terms and term limits. We ought to be keeping terms short to prevent stagnation and encourage newer participants to get involved in leadership. Extending terms and term limits just ensures that the same small group of people stay at the top; this inhibits engagement. There are multiple examples of this. There are numerous other bad changes proposed, as well as a slew of change-for-the-sake-of-change cosmetic edits (ie, changing "full" to "complete"). And don't even get me started about the insanity of the proposed participation standards. I have maintained for decades that we should be generous about who we admit and stingy about who we kick out. These new "standards" just serve to further limit the reach of ICANN At-Large to the groups and people who are able to invest substantial time to learn its culture. This decision isn't the end of the world one way or the other. But since we're given a choice to ratify or not, I suggest not. The existing rules have served well and any changes needed should be minor tweaks at best. The proposed changes represent a regression. Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada @evanleibovitch / @el56

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ICANN75 Policy Outlook Report
by ICANN At-Large Staff Sept. 12, 2022

Sept. 12, 2022

Dear all, Please see the ICANN75 Policy Outlook Report at: https://go.icann.org/outlook75 Thank you. Kind Regards, At-Large Staff ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community Website: atlarge.icann.org<https://atlarge.icann.org/> Facebook: facebook.com/icann<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>

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