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FW: Regional Advice on ALS Application from GTALUG
by Thompson, Darlene Aug. 15, 2009

Aug. 15, 2009

Hi all, Due diligence is now available for the Greater Toronto Area Linux User Group. I do not see anything in the DD that would prevent this group from being an ALS. Please provide your comments on or before our regional meeting of August 10 so that we can move this forward. Thanks! D Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 E-mail: dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca <mailto:dthompson@gov.nu.ca> ________________________________ From: At Large Staff [mailto:Staff@atlarge.icann.org] Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 7:46 PM To: 'Evan Leibovitch'; Thompson, Darlene Cc: Beau Brendler; 'Alan Greenberg'; 'Gareth Shearman' Subject: Regional Advice on ALS Application from GTALUG Dear Evan and Darlene, On July 15th, we received a North-American ALS application from the Greater Toronto Area Linux User Group. Please find the Due Diligence form attached. We kindly ask you to provide us with the regional advice for this application in your capacity as At-Large Secretariat for this region. Your advice will support the ALAC review on this application. According to our time line for ALS applications the due date for the regional advice is on September 2nd, 2009. We would like to remind you that the DD form could contain sensitive information. Please read the form carefully before sending it to third parties. Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella Gruber-White ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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NARALO Teleconference / Monday 8 June at 19:00 UTC
by At-Large Staff Aug. 3, 2009

Aug. 3, 2009

Dear All This is to remind you that the next NARALO teleconference is scheduled for Monday, June 08 at 19:00 UTC. The agenda is currently being updated but participation information can be found on page: https://st.icann.org/naralo/index.cgi?08%20June%202009 If you require dial-outs, please let us know at staff(a)atlarge.icann.org. Thank you Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella Gruber-White, Marie-Helene Bouchoms ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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FW: Regional Advice on ALS Application San Francisco Bay ISOC
by Thompson, Darlene July 30, 2009

July 30, 2009

Hi all, Due diligence is now available for the San Francisco Bay ISOC chapter. I do not see anything in the DD that would prevent this group from being an ALS. Please provide your comments on or before our regional meeting of August 10 so that we can move this forward. Thanks! D Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 E-mail: dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca <mailto:dthompson@gov.nu.ca> ________________________________ From: At Large Staff [mailto:Staff@atlarge.icann.org] Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 7:41 PM To: 'Evan Leibovitch'; Thompson, Darlene Cc: Beau Brendler; 'Alan Greenberg'; 'Gareth Shearman' Subject: Regional Advice on ALS Application San Francisco Bay ISOC Dear Evan and Darlene, Please find the Due Diligence form for San Francisco Bay ISOC attached. We kindly ask you to provide us with the regional advice for this application in your capacity as At-Large Secretariat for this region. Your advice will support the ALAC review on this application. According to our time line for ALS applications the due date for the regional advice is on August 9th. We would like to remind you that the DD form could contain sensitive information. Please read the form carefully before sending it to third parties. Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella Gruber-White ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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[Fwd: [ALAC-Announce] Public Consultation on Proposed ICANN Meeting Dates 2011 - 2013]
by Evan Leibovitch July 28, 2009

July 28, 2009

Hello everyone, At the last NARALO call there was a brief discussion on where and who might want to bid for a city to host ICANN the next time its meeting schedule passes through North America. The currently proposed date for the next NA meeting is March 2011. This date IMO eliminates a substantial part of North America from reasonably being able to submit a bid on climate grounds. During the call the meeting Seth agreed to investigate the suitability of Honolulu for the 2011 meeting, and I can certainly agree that it would be a great global destination in March. However once I received the notice below it seems there may be a window through which we can suggest to make the North American meeting the June one. That would make other centres of interest eligible (Boston, Toronto, Montreal). What do you think? Should NARALO send a response (and/or ask for ALAC's endorsement) to make the 2011 North American meeting the one in June? And does staff have any input on this matter? - Evan -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ALAC-Announce] Public Consultation on Proposed ICANN Meeting Dates 2011 - 2013 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:32:44 -0700 From: ICANN AtLarge Staff <staff(a)icann.org> To: icann-future-wg(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org. <icann-future-wg(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> CC: alac-announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org <alac-announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Dear Working Group on the Future Structure of ICANN, Please be advised that a public comment period has been opened on an issue related to the remit of your working group. In keeping with the 'bottom up' nature of ICANN, your working group's attention is kindly drawn to this comment period, which ends on August 14th. The consultation information may be found at http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#meeting-dates. The announcement of the same follows immediately hereafter. ________________________________ Proposed ICANN Meeting Dates 2011 - 2013 Explanation: While ICANN continues to examine the overall structure of its meeting dates and geographic rotation, it is important to move forward with future planning. In an effort to secure the dates for ICANN meetings through 2013, Staff recommendations have been developed for Public review and comment. Approving the meeting dates is important to prevent conflicts with other community events and to allow all participants sufficient time to plan their travel and attendance. The proposed dates below have been selected based on careful avoidance of important holidays, celebrations, and observances around the globe. Similarly, every effort was made to identify and prevent scheduling conflicts with other community events. ICANN will not be able to accommodate every request for a date change. However, in an effort to be fully cognizant of holidays and occasions from countries and religions around the world, we'd like to provide an opportunity for comment so the ICANN Public Participation Committee of the Board can move forward with approving the dates. Deadline and How to Submit Comments: The Staff is opening a 30-day public comment forum, from 13 July 2009 through 14 August 2009, and invites community comments on this topic. To submit comments: Comments are welcome via email to proposed-meeting-dates(a)icann.org. This public forum will be open through 14 August 2009. To view comments: An archive of all comments received will be publicly posted at http://forum.icann.org/lists/proposed-meeting-dates.

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Re: [NA-Discuss] meeting in Honolulu
by Garth Bruen at KnujOn July 28, 2009

July 28, 2009

Toronto is very central, I think it's a good pick. > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] meeting in Honolulu > From: Evan Leibovitch <evan(a)telly.org> > Date: Mon, July 27, 2009 11:13 pm > To: "John R. Levine" <johnl(a)iecc.com> > Cc: "Thompson, Darlene" <DThompson(a)GOV.NU.CA>, NA Discuss > <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > John R. Levine wrote: > > If it were up to me, I'd say have it in Toronto, and if you don't like > > the weather, use all the nice heated tunnels among all the downtown > > buildings and you'll never have to go outside. If cold weather is > > just too scarey, have it in Los Angeles at ICANN HQ and save money, or > > have it somewhere in Texas which is central and warm. > The compromise I've been suggesting is to ask ICANN to have its North > American meeting in June so northeast/midwest locations could be > suitable. Toronto (or Montreal or Boston or Ottawa) can be quite nice > that time of year. > Nobody I know that attended the LA meeting would want to have another > one there. > I also thought that New Orleans would be a good idea but I don't know of > any local partners who could help with logistics/sponsors *and* it's not > a hub for any airline. Dallas and Houston could work in February, and > they're hubs, but again I don't know of any potential local partners who > could help on a bid. > Compare that to the greater Toronto area which hosts three ALSs, a > high-profile registrar (Tucows), a major development centre for > Affilias, numerous ISPs including Canada's two biggest telcos, eight > universities, potential sponsors such as IBM and RIM, and plenty of > business/IPC interests. AND it has a major airline hub that's served > nonstop from Hong Kong, Istanbul, Buenos Aires and LaGuardia(*). (We > just started getting A380 service from Dubai this summer, boy those > suckers are big.) > Also... in the back of my mind ... I also have a concern about the > difficulty of international At-Large reps getting US visas. Canada isn't > enormously better but it's not quite as bad. > - Evan > (*) US-bound passengers from cross American customs at the Toronto > airport, allowing service to US domestic airports without customs > facilities. Toronto is the only international destination available from > Laguardia and a number of small airports such as Dayton and Manchester. > ------ > NA-Discuss mailing list > NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists.ic… > Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org > ------

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Re: [NA-Discuss] ALS Application San Francisco Bay ISOC
by (personal) Jothan Frakes July 27, 2009

July 27, 2009

Correct. We should track her to some extent as this may be a play on an objection w .sfo jothan frakes On Jul 27, 2009 4:22 PM, "At Large Staff" <Staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> wrote: Dear All, This is to inform you that we received an ALS application from San Francisco Bay ISOC. If accepted, San Francisco Bay ISOC would join NARALO. Due to technical issues, we were unable to process the original application document that was sent to us on June 21st. We asked the applicant to resend the document and received the attached application on July 22nd. We are therefore a couple of weeks behind schedule for this application at the moment. However, we have fast-tracked due diligence for this application to make up for some of the lost time. It will be sent to the regional officers in a separate email. Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella Gruber-White, Marie-Helene Bouchoms ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org ------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists.ic… Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------

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Re: [NA-Discuss] ALS Application San Francisco Bay ISOC
by At Large Staff July 27, 2009

July 27, 2009

Dear All, Please see the application from San Francisco Bay ISOC attached. Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella Gruber-White, Marie-Helene Bouchoms ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org From: At Large Staff [mailto:Staff@atlarge.icann.org] Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:23 PM To: NA Discuss Cc: 'alac-internal(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org'; 'Evan Leibovitch'; Thompson, Darlene Subject: ALS Application San Francisco Bay ISOC Dear All, This is to inform you that we received an ALS application from San Francisco Bay ISOC. If accepted, San Francisco Bay ISOC would join NARALO. Due to technical issues, we were unable to process the original application document that was sent to us on June 21st. We asked the applicant to resend the document and received the attached application on July 22nd. We are therefore a couple of weeks behind schedule for this application at the moment. However, we have fast-tracked due diligence for this application to make up for some of the lost time. It will be sent to the regional officers in a separate email. Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella Gruber-White, Marie-Helene Bouchoms ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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ALS Application San Francisco Bay ISOC
by At Large Staff July 27, 2009

July 27, 2009

Dear All, This is to inform you that we received an ALS application from San Francisco Bay ISOC. If accepted, San Francisco Bay ISOC would join NARALO. Due to technical issues, we were unable to process the original application document that was sent to us on June 21st. We asked the applicant to resend the document and received the attached application on July 22nd. We are therefore a couple of weeks behind schedule for this application at the moment. However, we have fast-tracked due diligence for this application to make up for some of the lost time. It will be sent to the regional officers in a separate email. Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Gisella Gruber-White, Marie-Helene Bouchoms ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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ncuc charter
by Dharma Dailey July 24, 2009

July 24, 2009

There are more like these in my inbox. The most chatter I've seen on an ICANN issue... Begin forwarded message: > From: DeeDee Halleck <dhalleck(a)ucsd.edu> > Date: July 23, 2009 7:56:46 AM GMT-04:00 > To: "MADCoList" <MADCoList(a)list.media-democracy.net> > Cc: Robin Gross <robin(a)ipjustice.org>, grc(a)maillist.peak.org, mediaresearchconf07(a)listserve.ssrc.org > Subject: [MADCoList] Open the process for internet governance! Act > Today! > > > Dear friends, > > Please read the inclosed letter and take action TODAY-- it is the > deadline. > > For several years I took part in the deliberations at the World > Summit on the Information Society. I wanted to see what other > countries were doing in regards to community media and to help > negotiate a place for public access within international media > regulations and recommendations. As part of this process I learned > a bit about internet governance. A civil society group was set up > (agreed to by ICANN-- the official international internet > organization) to come up with suggestions for democratizing internet > governance. We're not talking revolution here, but a few > participatory gestures, slight, but important. > > To the amazement of the civil society group, these suggestions were > completely ignored. ICANN continues to represent only government > and commercial interests. > The hope that there could be civil society participation has been > rudely dashed. However, the group that worked to craft an > alternative process is asking ALL THOSE WHO WORK IN NON-PROFIT MEDIA > to weigh in and let ICANN know how important it is that civil > society gets "a seat at the table". > > PLEASE READ THIS AND SEND A STATEMENT OF SUPPORT FOR A DEMOCRATIC > INTERNET. > DeeDee Halleck > > > > Dear Dee Dee, > > I am writing with an urgent request that you please send a quick > email to ICANN to weigh-in regarding the imposition of the ICANN > staff drafted charter for a Noncommercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG). > > Without any explanation or justification, ICANN discarded the NCSG > charter that had been drafted by civil society in a consensus > process and submitted to ICANN by NCUC in March - and supported by > more than 80 noncommercial organizations and individuals. > > Instead, ICANN is attempting to impose precisely the "silo" charter > model that we said would stranglehold us and render us ineffective > in policy development at ICANN. > > It is crucial that noncommercial organizations and individuals weigh- > in right now and let ICANN know that the world is watching and > expecting it to live up to its promises of bottom-up processes, > accountability, and democracy. > > The governance structures contained within the NCSG charter will be > extremely important for determining how effective noncommercial > users can be in influencing policy decisions at ICANN for years to > come. So if there was ever an issue to weigh-in on, this is the > issue - because it will impact every issue noncommercial users face > in the future. > > The ICANN Public Comment Period on the charters is open until 23 > July - Thursday (end-of-business in California). > > Comments on the draft charters are submitted via email to gnso-stakeholder-charters(a)icann.org > . > > Thank you for considering this urgent request. If you can find the > time to send a quick email to ICANN before Thursday EOB, it could > make a significant difference for noncommercial users for years to > come and I would greatly appreciate it. > > Please let me know if you'd like to discuss this request further. > Thanks again!! > > All best, > > Robin > > Background on Issue with links to docs, see my article: "Is ICANN > Accountable to the Global Public Interest?": > http://ipjustice.org/ICANN/NCSG/NCUC-ICANN-Injustices.html > > IP Justice Statement on Stakeholder Group Charter Injustices: > http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-stakeholder-charters/msg00012.html > > Comment from Dr. Milton Mueller (Internet Governance Project): > http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-stakeholder-charters/msg00001.html > > Public Comments: > http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-stakeholder-charters/ > > ICANN Info on submitting comments on stakeholder group charters: > http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#stakeholder > > > > > IP JUSTICE > Robin Gross, Executive Director > 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA > p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 > w: http://www.ipjustice.org e: robin(a)ipjustice.org > > SAMPLE LETTER FROM KENYA: > > Dear all, > > My name is Alex Gakuru, a member of the Non-Commercial Users > Constituency whom endorsed the NCSG charter that had been drafted by > civil society in a "bottom-up" consensus process and submitted to > ICANN by NCUC in March, 2009. > > Concerned by the manner in which ICANN staff have discarded our civil > society draft, once again, negating sacred the bottom-up consensus > principle from within ICANN. Internet users fund ICANN's operational > existence to work for us. You are the duty bearers here to us - the > rights holders. You owe us the obligation to listen to us and publicly > reflect it on all your operations, activities and reports. Otherwise, > I fear if the sacred “bottom-up” principle was discarded and i was > never aware. > > It is my considered view that this is a very serious governance issue > that concerns my constituency members and I hope that ICANN will > address it with the importance, seriousness, and the urgency that it > deserves. > > Sincerely, > > Alex Gakuru > NCUC member, > Nairobi, Kenya > > If you wish to unsubscribe, please send a blank message with the > subject "unsubscribe" to info(a)media-democracy.net > MADCoList | Archives | Modify Your Subscription

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Re: [NA-Discuss] ncuc charter
by Alan Greenberg July 23, 2009

July 23, 2009

The NCUC is a Constituency within the current GNSO. Its members will become members (directly or indirectly) of the new Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG) and (according to the NCUC), the NCUC will cease to exist. Regarding the potential overlap with At-Large, it is very much a matter of scope and focus. See the discussion on pages 3-4 of http://tinyurl.com/at-Large-GNSO. Alan At 23/07/2009 02:26 PM, Thompson, Darlene wrote: >This is an interesting thread. Also, its one that I know very little >about. > >Question: Why do we need an NCSG plus an NCUC and At Large? It seems >to me to be a bit of overlap here that could be addressed by fewer >groups. As I said, though, I really don't know much about this. > >D > >Darlene A. Thompson >Community Access Program Administrator >Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP >P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 >Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 >Phone: (867) 975-5631 >Fax: (867) 975-5610 >E-mail: dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca > > >-----Original Message----- >From: na-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >[mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Dharma >Dailey >Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:32 PM >To: Evan Leibovitch >Cc: dhalleck(a)ucsd.edu; NA Discuss >Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] ncuc charter > > >On Jul 23, 2009, at 12:11 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote: > > > > > I'd hoped that the Summit session on "ICANN 101" would have helped > > with > > that, perhaps we ought to turn that into a more permanent document. > > But > > as I recall even that took many hours to get through. > >For any organization, there is the org chart on the wall and then >there is the way things really work. One I mastered in a few >minutes, the other is beyond hope. > > > > IMO this has nothing to do with judging merit. Even if it's just > > perception it needs to be addressed. > > > Yes, this is where I'm coming from. What are some good options to >do at this moment? > > > When I see these emails, I see an opportunity here to do outreach. If > > people are mad at ICANN let's bring them in as ALSs or individuals who > > can participate and make a difference. There *is* a mechanism for > > change, even if it's immature and sometimes unwieldy. > > Right now there appear to be a shortage of committed people to go > > around, and even much of ALAC isn't holding its weight. Sometimes I > > see > > meetings or calls stacked by special interests and feel that we just > > need to show that we won't be intimidated. Any time I read of someone > > ticked off I see an opportunity to invite them into At-Large and > > help to > > chance ICANN from within. > > > > On one hand I don't want people coming in to change things ICANN > > cannot > > change -- that is an unhelpful distraction. But there is more than > > enough here to fix that requires an active and aware At-Large. > >Ideally, there would be a spectrum of participatory options that fall >between reaching out to existing representatives and becoming one >yourself. Everyone who cares about how the internet shouldn't have to >become an ICANN expert. > > > > > > - Evan > > > > >------ >NA-Discuss mailing list >NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists >.icann.org > >Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >------ > >------ >NA-Discuss mailing list >NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists.ic… > >Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >------

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