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Re: [NA-Discuss] NCSG/ALAC dinner Thursday night in SF
by Evan Leibovitch March 9, 2011

March 9, 2011

On 8 March 2011 06:53, Avri Doria <avri(a)acm.org> wrote: > Can one ask what this very unusual restaurant is? > Also, what's on the fixed menu? > or is it rude to ask? > Not rude. I just thought people might like a little surprise. I've been there before and it's quite the place, unless you're a vampire. If you still want to be surprised don't click here<http://www.thestinkingrose.com/about.htm> . - Evan

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NCUC/ALAC dinner Thursday night in SF
by Evan Leibovitch March 8, 2011

March 8, 2011

If you are planning to attend ICANN #40 in San Francisco next week... Annalisa Roger and I are trying to assemble a group to do dinner Thursday nigtht (Mar 17) at a very unusual restaurant. She has negotiated a fixed price menu @ $40. Please let me know if you're interested. We have to nail down numbers by Monday. Also, a number of us are planning a day of wine country tourism for anyone still around on the Saturday. Again, email Annalisa or myself if interested. - Evan

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NCSG/ALAC dinner Thursday night in SF
by Evan Leibovitch March 8, 2011

March 8, 2011

If you are planning to attend ICANN #40 in San Francisco next week... Annalisa Roger and I are trying to assemble a group to do dinner Thursday nigtht (Mar 17) at a very unusual restaurant. (Purely social, if you want to talk shop that's your own business...) She has negotiated a fixed price menu @ $40. Please let me know if you're interested; we have to nail down numbers by Monday. If you know others who might be interested but may not be receiving this mail, free free to pass it along. -- Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada Em: evan at telly dot org Sk: evanleibovitch Tw: el56

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IMPORTANT!!! ONLY CHANCE TO REVIEW YOUR FACT SHEET!
by Thompson, Darlene March 6, 2011

March 6, 2011

Hi all, OK, I did up the mail merge on the fact sheets. During the merge, most of the formatting was lost so I have spent most of my day today doing formatting corrections. You can thank your lucky selves that my husband just went away on a business trip because this took hours and hours! Where I didn't have images/logos from someone (and I don't have the software forEPS images), I went to your websites and downloaded your logos. I hope that that was OK. So, you need to review your fact sheet with the following eye: 1. Did I get your logo and any other images OK? 2. Is the formatting correct to get your point accross or was something mangled in translation? 3. These fact sheets should be one page long. For those of you who went over or under, do you wish to redo now? Its totally up to you. Any changes should be sent directly to me. 4. For any other changes, please be very specific - I'll do my best! DEADLINE: End of the day Tuesday, March 8. These need to be sent to print and if I need to make changes I need time, so the sooner you send me any changes, the better. If I don't hear from you, I will assume that your sheet is fine. :) D Darlene A. Thompson CAP Administrator N-CAP/Department of Education P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 979-5610 dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca

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Please confirm your participation at the NARALO Showcase
by ICANN At-Large Staff March 5, 2011

March 5, 2011

Dear All, The NARALO Showcase working group has reached the final stretch. In advance of the event on 14 March in San Francisco (see www.naralo.org/showcase) the WG would like to confirm the ALS representatives attending the San Francisco meeting. We have drafted a list of confirmed speakers under https://community.icann.org/display/NARALO/Proposed+Showcase+Script . Please let us know as soon as possible if you or another representative of your ALS will be presenting your ALS at the Showcase and you are NOT marked as confirmed on the script. Please note that in order to keep in time with the Showcase agenda, the presentations will need to be brief ( 1 2 minutes). Thank you. -- Regards, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Seth Greene, Gisella Gruber-White, Marilyn Vernon, Kristina Nordström ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff[at]atlarge.icann.org website: www.atlarge.icann.org

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Re: [NA-Discuss] Please confirm your participation at the NARALO Showcase
by Thompson, Darlene March 5, 2011

March 5, 2011

Very true, Beau, Our OP state that once we don't hear from a group for a year and they haven't voted, the chair can simply ask ALAC to deaccredit them. This should be a fairly cut and dried situation. D Darlene A. Thompson CAP Administrator N-CAP/Department of Education P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 979-5610 dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca ________________________________________ From: na-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [na-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Beau Brendler [beaubrendler(a)earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:48 PM To: Avri Doria; NA Discuss Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Please confirm your participation at the NARALO Showcase I really don't see the point in asking Consumers Union for a letter. I created WebWatch, ran it for eight years, it lost its funding and it died when I left. The advocacy staff that did telecommunications policy at Consumers Union is gone. I would not even be able to direct you to anyone there now who would know what an ALS or RALO is. And if I could, it would be August 2189 AD before anyone would write to answer you. According to this note from Matthias: ------------------------------------------------ Hi Beau, We have taken WebWatch off the showcase speaker list. According to the current rules, there are two possible procedures to de-certificate a North-American ALS: 1) A representative of the organisation sends a resignation note 2) NARALO requests the ALAC to decertify an ALS Please inform the At-Large Staff, if NARALO would like to explore one of these options. Kind Regards, Matthias ------------------------------------------------- I already did #1 almost two years ago. The letter went to Nick Ashton-Hart. As for 2), I don't see a point in asking ALAC to de-certify an ALS that no longer exists. Who needs more bureaucratic procedure? -----Original Message----- >From: Avri Doria <avri(a)ella.com> >Sent: Mar 4, 2011 11:21 AM >To: NA Discuss <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Please confirm your participation at the NARALO Showcase > >Hi, > >Thanks. and Thanks for the pointer - though ti was still a typical ICANN web guessing game to find it. > >So it seems that 12 months after notifying them that they automatically were put on inactive status (though you don't call it that) you can just eject them. But since you never notify them, they are on it is indefinitely. > >Also other than approving of a renewed OP i don't see any reference to quorum, so it was probably a moot point. > >a. > > > >On 4 Mar 2011, at 10:59, Thompson, Darlene wrote: > >> 16. When an ALS representative does not vote in 3 consecutive NARALO elections or does not contribute a comment on ICANN policy through collaboration on the At-Large discussion lists in 12 consecutive months, it automatically loses its voting rights and active status within the NARALO. The ALS should be notified of the status change and may regain its voting rights and active status if within the next 12 months it votes or participates to online discussions, otherwise the Chair will submit to ALAC a request for de-certification of that ALS. >> >> If you look at the very bottom of this string, you will see a link to www.naralo.org that links to all of our organizing documents. >> >> Now, in reality, we have not done these notifications, nor have we requested any de-certifications. I guess its good wording to have in just in case we need to do this. >> >> D >> >> Darlene A. Thompson >> Community Access Program Administrator >> Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP >> P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 >> Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 >> Phone: (867) 975-5631 >> Fax: (867) 975-5610 >> E-mail: dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: na-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Avri Doria >> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 10:39 AM >> To: NA Discuss >> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Please confirm your participation at the NARALO Showcase >> >> Hi, >> >> Cool, I guess I should have read them. Being lazy, and not knowing where the OP is/are: How do they become inactive? Is there an automatic mechanism or does someone have to do something. >> >> a. >> >> >> >> On 4 Mar 2011, at 10:32, Thompson, Darlene wrote: >> >>> I totally agree with Avri and Evan. I think the only time we would want to actually remove an ALS (other than the reasons that Avri gave) would be if they have totally fallen apart and no longer exist. >>> >>> Oh, and Avri, we already have this in our OP that inactive ALSs do not count in the quorum calculations. >>> >>> D >>> >>> Darlene A. Thompson >>> Community Access Program Administrator >>> Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP >>> P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 >>> Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 >>> Phone: (867) 975-5631 >>> Fax: (867) 975-5610 >>> E-mail: dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: na-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Avri Doria >>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 10:27 AM >>> To: NA Discuss >>> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Please confirm your participation at the NARALO Showcase >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> One of the mechanisms I have always liked is that someone becomes inactive after a certain number of missed votes. >>> >>> Once inactive they don't count in the quorum calculations. >>> >>> And once the become active again, e.g. by voting, they are moved back to the active list and are counted in the next quorum calculation. >>> >>> Now some people think that someone cannot stay on an inactive list forever. I think that while nothing is forever, it does not really matter how long someone is on a list. Some ALS may have joined because they are genuinely interested but they may just not have the capacity/bandwidth to participate quite yet. So unless there is malfeasance or a resignation, I suggest you leave them on an inactive list indefinitely >>> >>> a. >>> >>> On 4 Mar 2011, at 10:07, Evan Leibovitch wrote: >>> >>>> Sometime back, Danny suggested that there should be a periodic review of >>>> ALSs that were never heard from, never voted or participated in anything. >>>> >>>> When it was first suggested, as Chair at the time I answered that it was too >>>> premature in NARALO's life to start pruning, that our goal was to be more >>>> inclusive rather then spend a lot of energy on de-certifying inactive ALSs >>>> (and in our case, individual members). >>>> >>>> Eventually, there will indeed be merit to such activity -- for the purposes >>>> of achieving quorum for votes, and to disallow anyone from publicising their >>>> involvement in NARALO even though they're not involved. >>>> >>>> Is it still too soon? Personally, I think so. >>>> >>>> In the case of Webwatch, IMO the tidiest thing to do is to ask CU for a >>>> letter of withdrawal. >>>> >>>> - Evan >>>> ------ >>>> NA-Discuss mailing list >>>> NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss >>>> >>>> Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >>>> ------ >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------ >>> NA-Discuss mailing list >>> NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss >>> >>> Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >>> ------ >>> >> >> >> ------ >> NA-Discuss mailing list >> NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss >> >> Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >> ------ >> > > >------ >NA-Discuss mailing list >NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > >Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >------ ------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------

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Beginner's Guides now available
by ICANN At-Large Staff March 5, 2011

March 5, 2011

Dear All, The ICANN Communications Department is pleased to announce that the "Beginner's Guide to IP Addresses", the second in a series of Beginner's Guides prepared at the request of the ALAC, has now been posted to ICANN's website. Although it is currently only in English, the French and Spanish versions will be available shortly. In addition, the first Beginner's Guide entitled "Beginner's Guide to Domain Names" is newly available in French and Spanish. The Beginner's Guides are available at: http://www.icann.org/en/learning/. The summary of the "Beginner's Guide to IP Addresses" is: Internet Protocol (IP) addresses are the unique identifying numbers that all computers and devices connected to the Internet depend on to communicate with each other. When the pool of available unallocated addresses for IPv4, the original IP addressing system, completely depleted this year, the Internet began a transition to IPv6, a newer Internet Protocol system. This highly readable guide, created in cooperation with ICANN's At-Large community, helps the individual user understand IP addresses and the transition from IPv4 to IPv6. The summary of the Beginner's Guide to Domain Names is: A domain name can become where other people find you on line, and adds to your online identity. Although domain names are a big part of the Internet, understanding how these names work (and the ins and outs of obtaining them) can be mystifying at first. This highly readable guide, created in cooperation with ICANN's At-Large community, helps the individual user understand and use domain names. The Communications Department seeks the At-Large community's feedback on the quality of the French and Spanish translations of the Beginner's Guide to Domain Names. Please send your concrete suggestions to Scott Pinzon, Director, Marketing & Outreach at: scott.pinzon(a)icann.org. Regards, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Seth Greene, Gisella Gruber-White, Marilyn Vernon, ICANN At-Large Staff

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IPv6 Community call - MP3 recordings now available
by ICANN At-Large Staff March 5, 2011

March 5, 2011

Dear All, The MP3 recordings of today's At-Large community call on IPv6 are now available in English and Spanish on the agenda page (see: https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/Community+Call+on+IPv6+04.03.11) . Regards, Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Seth Greene, Gisella Gruber-White, Marilyn Vernon, ICANN At-Large Staff

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Re: [NA-Discuss] Please confirm your participation at the NARALO Showcase
by Beau Brendler March 4, 2011

March 4, 2011

I really don't see the point in asking Consumers Union for a letter. I created WebWatch, ran it for eight years, it lost its funding and it died when I left. The advocacy staff that did telecommunications policy at Consumers Union is gone. I would not even be able to direct you to anyone there now who would know what an ALS or RALO is. And if I could, it would be August 2189 AD before anyone would write to answer you. According to this note from Matthias: ------------------------------------------------ Hi Beau, We have taken WebWatch off the showcase speaker list. According to the current rules, there are two possible procedures to de-certificate a North-American ALS: 1) A representative of the organisation sends a resignation note 2) NARALO requests the ALAC to decertify an ALS Please inform the At-Large Staff, if NARALO would like to explore one of these options. Kind Regards, Matthias ------------------------------------------------- I already did #1 almost two years ago. The letter went to Nick Ashton-Hart. As for 2), I don't see a point in asking ALAC to de-certify an ALS that no longer exists. Who needs more bureaucratic procedure? -----Original Message----- >From: Avri Doria <avri(a)ella.com> >Sent: Mar 4, 2011 11:21 AM >To: NA Discuss <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Please confirm your participation at the NARALO Showcase > >Hi, > >Thanks. and Thanks for the pointer - though ti was still a typical ICANN web guessing game to find it. > >So it seems that 12 months after notifying them that they automatically were put on inactive status (though you don't call it that) you can just eject them. But since you never notify them, they are on it is indefinitely. > >Also other than approving of a renewed OP i don't see any reference to quorum, so it was probably a moot point. > >a. > > > >On 4 Mar 2011, at 10:59, Thompson, Darlene wrote: > >> 16. When an ALS representative does not vote in 3 consecutive NARALO elections or does not contribute a comment on ICANN policy through collaboration on the At-Large discussion lists in 12 consecutive months, it automatically loses its voting rights and active status within the NARALO. The ALS should be notified of the status change and may regain its voting rights and active status if within the next 12 months it votes or participates to online discussions, otherwise the Chair will submit to ALAC a request for de-certification of that ALS. >> >> If you look at the very bottom of this string, you will see a link to www.naralo.org that links to all of our organizing documents. >> >> Now, in reality, we have not done these notifications, nor have we requested any de-certifications. I guess its good wording to have in just in case we need to do this. >> >> D >> >> Darlene A. Thompson >> Community Access Program Administrator >> Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP >> P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 >> Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 >> Phone: (867) 975-5631 >> Fax: (867) 975-5610 >> E-mail: dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: na-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Avri Doria >> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 10:39 AM >> To: NA Discuss >> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Please confirm your participation at the NARALO Showcase >> >> Hi, >> >> Cool, I guess I should have read them. Being lazy, and not knowing where the OP is/are: How do they become inactive? Is there an automatic mechanism or does someone have to do something. >> >> a. >> >> >> >> On 4 Mar 2011, at 10:32, Thompson, Darlene wrote: >> >>> I totally agree with Avri and Evan. I think the only time we would want to actually remove an ALS (other than the reasons that Avri gave) would be if they have totally fallen apart and no longer exist. >>> >>> Oh, and Avri, we already have this in our OP that inactive ALSs do not count in the quorum calculations. >>> >>> D >>> >>> Darlene A. Thompson >>> Community Access Program Administrator >>> Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP >>> P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 >>> Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 >>> Phone: (867) 975-5631 >>> Fax: (867) 975-5610 >>> E-mail: dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: na-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Avri Doria >>> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 10:27 AM >>> To: NA Discuss >>> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Please confirm your participation at the NARALO Showcase >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> One of the mechanisms I have always liked is that someone becomes inactive after a certain number of missed votes. >>> >>> Once inactive they don't count in the quorum calculations. >>> >>> And once the become active again, e.g. by voting, they are moved back to the active list and are counted in the next quorum calculation. >>> >>> Now some people think that someone cannot stay on an inactive list forever. I think that while nothing is forever, it does not really matter how long someone is on a list. Some ALS may have joined because they are genuinely interested but they may just not have the capacity/bandwidth to participate quite yet. So unless there is malfeasance or a resignation, I suggest you leave them on an inactive list indefinitely >>> >>> a. >>> >>> On 4 Mar 2011, at 10:07, Evan Leibovitch wrote: >>> >>>> Sometime back, Danny suggested that there should be a periodic review of >>>> ALSs that were never heard from, never voted or participated in anything. >>>> >>>> When it was first suggested, as Chair at the time I answered that it was too >>>> premature in NARALO's life to start pruning, that our goal was to be more >>>> inclusive rather then spend a lot of energy on de-certifying inactive ALSs >>>> (and in our case, individual members). >>>> >>>> Eventually, there will indeed be merit to such activity -- for the purposes >>>> of achieving quorum for votes, and to disallow anyone from publicising their >>>> involvement in NARALO even though they're not involved. >>>> >>>> Is it still too soon? Personally, I think so. >>>> >>>> In the case of Webwatch, IMO the tidiest thing to do is to ask CU for a >>>> letter of withdrawal. >>>> >>>> - Evan >>>> ------ >>>> NA-Discuss mailing list >>>> NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss >>>> >>>> Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >>>> ------ >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------ >>> NA-Discuss mailing list >>> NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss >>> >>> Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >>> ------ >>> >> >> >> ------ >> NA-Discuss mailing list >> NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss >> >> Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >> ------ >> > > >------ >NA-Discuss mailing list >NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > >Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >------

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Re: [NA-Discuss] Please confirm your participation at the NARALO Showcase
by Beau Brendler March 4, 2011

March 4, 2011

we need to get webwatch off there...it's been dead for almost two years and consumers union is not working on icann anymore -----Original Message----- >From: Internet Society - NY Chapter <admin(a)isoc-ny.org> >Sent: Mar 3, 2011 4:15 PM >To: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> >Cc: "na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org" <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Please confirm your participation at the NARALO Showcase > >Would their be the option to submit a video? Will there be audio? > >j > > > > > >On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:12 PM, ICANN At-Large Staff ><staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> wrote: >> Dear All, >> >> The NARALO Showcase working group has reached the final stretch. >> >> In advance of the event on 14 March in San Francisco (see >> www.naralo.org/showcase) the WG would like to confirm the ALS >> representatives attending the San Francisco meeting. >> >> We have drafted a list of confirmed speakers under >> https://community.icann.org/display/NARALO/Proposed+Showcase+Script . Please >> let us know as soon as possible if you or another representative of your ALS >> will be presenting your ALS at the Showcase and you are NOT marked as >> confirmed on the script. >> >> Please note that in order to keep in time with the Showcase agenda, the >> presentations will need to be brief ( 1 2 minutes). >> >> Thank you. >> -- >> Regards, >> >> Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Seth Greene, Gisella Gruber-White, >> Marilyn Vernon, Kristina Nordström >> ICANN At-Large Staff >> >> email: staff[at]atlarge.icann.org >> website: www.atlarge.icann.org >> >> >> ------ >> NA-Discuss mailing list >> NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss >> >> Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >> ------ >> > > > >-- >--------------------------------------------------------------- >Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast > > VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org >--------------------------------------------------------------- > >------ >NA-Discuss mailing list >NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > >Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >------

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