July 2011 - NA-Discuss - lists.icann.org

Re: [NA-Discuss] quora
by ebw＠abenaki.wabanaki.net July 7, 2011

July 7, 2011

Danny, An isolated note: > When I consider the history of ICANN and its various constructs I note > that ICANN has certainly terminated some of its constituenct elements > before (the PSO is gone ... I think the better characterization of the circa 2002 bylaws change is none of the circa 1998 organizations, IETF, W3C, ETSI, wanted to continue the PSO. There is even some discussion of this resulting from my comments on the absence of a formal, and vote originating means for organizations with technical briefs to affect board composition, and therefore, board votes on issues eventually affecting policy on technical matters, in the Berkman contribution to the structural review last year. I wouldn't lump it with some eliminate the non-functioning, but consider it as the divorce of the marriage of convenience between the IESG/IETF and the early "New Entity" founders. If you're interested in the trajectory from member selecting to liaison appointing let me know next week when I'm back in Monterey or Ithaca. The Berkman people did a good job on that bit of history. Anyway, I've no skin in the game, I'm here by accident and the policy thingee I can point to and say I'd something to do with it, is what happened after the ALAC presentation to the GAC, which was flawed by a "join our group" message, and which somewhat abruptly lurched into intimate consultation and a joint text the substance of which I made a contribution to, but as of Friday I've not actually seen. Just what policy areas are you intrested in? My son likes to video and I've been carrying a flip camera with me all week. If I knew what you or anyone wanted to see the video from (delayed until I get home for b/w reasons if nothing else) I'd have turned the camera on. Eric

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Re: [NA-Discuss] [ALAC-Internal] Draft FY 12 Community Travel Support Guidelines
by Beau Brendler July 5, 2011

July 5, 2011

Same here...I was in the room as well as were lots of others who couldn't vote. Also, people did file their meeting reports, but in some cases posted them to the skype chat, like me. Couldn't get the new wiki to accept my login or send me a new one, so I posted my meeting reports in the chat. They are more immediate, useful and interactive that way anyway. I will suggest to Danny that he join Skype chat as well. -----Original Message----- >From: Charles Mok <mok(a)hknet.com> >Sent: Jun 23, 2011 3:03 AM >To: ALAC Internal List <alac-internal(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Cc: "na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org" <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: Re: [ALAC-Internal] Draft FY 12 Community Travel Support Guidelines > >Dear all, > >I was there and I did not have voting privilege. I support Darlene's >comments. > >Charles Mok >APRALO > > >On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Thompson, Darlene <DThompson1(a)gov.nu.ca>wrote: > >> I would like to draw your attention to comments that Danny Younger posted >> in the ICANN public comments in regards to the Draft FY 12 Community Travel >> Support Guidelines and my response thereto. >> >> Danny Younger's Comment: >> >> I draw the community’s attention to the primary purpose of the Travel >> Support Guidelines, namely to “advance the work of ICANN”. >> >> Yesterday I remotely participated in an ALAC meeting where a vote was being >> conducted. Quorum was barely reached as a large number of ALAC members that >> we financially supported to attend such meetings chose not to be present. >> This is not the first occasion of travel-supported ALAC members being noted >> as missing-in-action. It has become a pattern. >> >> Needless to say, I am thoroughly disgusted by such behavior. >> >> I have certain expectations. Just as I expect certain other communities >> (such as the registries and registrars) to either police their own behaviors >> or face the prospect of regulations being foisted upon them, so too do I >> expect the at-large community to engage in self-policing. >> >> To date, whatever measures the at-large community has taken to ensure that >> travel-support recipients are actually engaged in “work” have not been >> effective – abusive behavior continues unchecked and wastes the resources >> that have generously been allocated. >> >> I am of the view that ICANN must now step in to forcefully deal with this >> situation as community self-policing efforts have clearly failed. >> >> My own recommendation would be to impose a moratorium on all at-large >> travel support until such time as the ALAC develops a policy to effectively >> deal with the abuses in its own camp. >> >> My response: >> >> I would like to publicly respond to Danny Younger’s comment. I was at the >> meeting he referred to. >> >> At the ALAC vote, nine out of fifteen of the ALAC members were present. Of >> the six that were not present, three were not in Singapore and did not >> receive travel support (Jean-Jacques Subrenat, Gareth Shearman and Marc >> Rotenberg). The people who received travel support in their stead were >> present at the meeting but did not have voting privileges. Mohamed El >> Bashir was not present at the meeting because he was ill with food poisoning >> but gave his support to the vote by e-mail and Carlton Samuels was in >> another meeting. This leaves but one person unaccounted for. >> >> I am against all measures that Danny Younger suggested as he obviously >> wrote his comment before he gathered the relevant information. >> >> Darlene >> >> Darlene A. Thompson >> CAP Administrator >> N-CAP >> P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 >> Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 >> Phone: (867) 975-5631 >> Fax: (867) 975-5610 >> dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca >> _______________________________________________ >> ALAC-Internal mailing list >> ALAC-Internal(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-internal >> >> ALAC Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac >> At-Large Website: http://atlarge.icann.org >> >> >_______________________________________________ >ALAC-Internal mailing list >ALAC-Internal(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-internal > >ALAC Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac >At-Large Website: http://atlarge.icann.org

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Meeting Summary
by Thompson, Darlene July 3, 2011

July 3, 2011

Hi all, I apologize for the delay. The meeting summary has been *finally* posted by myself at https://community.icann.org/display/NARALO/NARALO+13.06.2011+Summary+Minutes for your review. Hope all are having a great long weekend! D Darlene A. Thompson CAP Administrator N-CAP/Department of Education P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca

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