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Re: [NA-Discuss] 2nd revision of NARALO Operating Procedures
by Alan Greenberg Aug. 8, 2013

Aug. 8, 2013

Yes. At 08/08/2013 12:52 PM, gbruen(a)knujon.com wrote: >Do you mean "contested"? > >Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > >-----Original Message----- >From: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> >Sender: na-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 12:48:15 >To: NA-Discuss<na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: [NA-Discuss] 2nd revision of NARALO Operating Procedures > >Based on comments, I have made a few more changes. These are shown in BLUE. > >12/13. Normal procedure in the ALAC is now to hold secret votes for >elections/selections that are contended. The changes to 12 and 13 >allow the NARALO to do this as well. This is in fact how we have been >operating, so the change just ratifies our existing behavior. > >16. Correct and error that said a suspended ALS could regain their >active status by voting, but voting is the thing they are not allowed >to do if inactive. Also added a provision whereby NARALO can request >the the ALAC de-certify an essentially defunct ALS. The ALAC would >still need to conduct due diligence, so the procedures in NARALO do >not need to be exceedingly detailed. > >Last call for additional issues? > >Alan

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Re: [NA-Discuss] 2nd revision of NARALO Operating Procedures- WIKI PAGE CREATED TO CONSOLIDATE COMMENTS
by Silvia Vivanco Aug. 8, 2013

Aug. 8, 2013

Dear Alan et all, Staff has created the following WIKI page " NARALO ROP Review". I have saved the first draft. The page can be used as discussion space and as a tool to consolidate comments. There is a link to the Page on the NARALO main page. https://community.icann.org/display/NARALO/NARALO+ROP+Review++2013 Thank you! Kind regards, Silvia Silvia Vivanco Manager, At-Large Regional Affairs Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: + 1 (202) 570-7119 Fax: +1 (202) 789-0104 Cell/Mobile: +1 (202) 735-7011 -----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Alan Greenberg Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 12:48 PM To: NA-Discuss Subject: [NA-Discuss] 2nd revision of NARALO Operating Procedures Based on comments, I have made a few more changes. These are shown in BLUE. 12/13. Normal procedure in the ALAC is now to hold secret votes for elections/selections that are contended. The changes to 12 and 13 allow the NARALO to do this as well. This is in fact how we have been operating, so the change just ratifies our existing behavior. 16. Correct and error that said a suspended ALS could regain their active status by voting, but voting is the thing they are not allowed to do if inactive. Also added a provision whereby NARALO can request the the ALAC de-certify an essentially defunct ALS. The ALAC would still need to conduct due diligence, so the procedures in NARALO do not need to be exceedingly detailed. Last call for additional issues? Alan

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Monday's Meeting/Teleconference
by Garth Bruen Aug. 8, 2013

Aug. 8, 2013

All, Due to the on-going election and pending changes to our ROP, the agenda for our monthly call will be focused on moving these concerns forward. I apologize for the disruption of our normal activities but these are obviously critical issues. I will be sending out a brief of the ROP changes. I suggest everyone become familiar with them. -Garth ------------------------------------- Garth Bruen gbruen(a)knujon.com 617-947-3805 http://www.knujon.com Chair of ICANN At-Large North America (naralo.org) http://www.linkedin.com/pub/4/149/724 The Death of the Internet: http://astore.amazon.com/knujocom-20/detail/1118062418 Blog: http://www.digitalcitizensalliance.org/cac/alliance/blog.aspx?ident=garth Twitter: @Knujon

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Cross-RALO Policy Development Activities and Processes Workspace
by ICANN At-Large Staff Aug. 6, 2013

Aug. 6, 2013

Dear All, Please note that the Cross-RALO Policy Development Activities and Processes Workspace<https://community.icann.org/x/X09-Ag> has been created. This workspace contains the various Policy and Process issues discussed by the RALOs during the ICANN Durban Meeting. Regards, Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine and Julia Charvolen ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org>

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Draft NARALO Operating Procedures
by Alan Greenberg Aug. 6, 2013

Aug. 6, 2013

I offer the following draft of the reviser NARALO Operating Procedures In summary, I have changed: - a number of things we noted before as problems but never fixed - the tie-breaking which triggered this revision - other important things I found along the way. All of our documents are BADLY in need of revision. This is NOT that effort, but I have tried to fix the really serious issues and particularly ones that have caused us problems in the past. In detail by section number: 7. Adding the possibility for a shared Secretariat, which already implied in section 8 by the "person(s)". As far as I can find, we have no "language requirements", so I deleted the reference to it. 9. That is primarily where the ALAC Member responsibilities now reside (or pointed to by RoP). 11. Removal of the term "Statement of Interest" which now has another meaning. Nominations is what this process is referred to in ALAC docs, and in fact, that is what actually happens except in the rare self-nomination case. 12. Goes with above. 15. Currently, only a rep of a true ALS can vote to alter the Operating Procedures. The representative of unaffiliated members was accidentally omitted. This fixes that. 16. Since we say that selections should largely be by consensus, this fits better than just counting votes which might not happen. 17. Again removing a mis-used "Statement of Interest" and making the process clear. I also made it clear how you lose unaffiliated membership. I removed what is essentially an implementation issue that did not belong in the rules and added a tie-breaking rule patterned on that in 13. 19. The new rule for tie-breaking in a Chair or Secretariat election. 20. To counteract section 12.9 of the Procedure for Meetings which says we vote like LAC, with weighted voting balancing countries. 21. Fix the many discrepancies among documents. Comments? Alan

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Re: [NA-Discuss] Building consensus on dealing with the election tie
by Alan Greenberg Aug. 4, 2013

Aug. 4, 2013

Thanks Darlene. There is no question that we need a obust set of rules that can handle situations such as this. The only immediate question, as I outlined in my earlier note, is do we need them for THIS election. Alan At 27/07/2013 03:18 PM, Thompson, Darlene wrote: >Thank you Bob, > >Along this line, when NARALO was still new and nobody really knew >what they were doing, Luc and I did just fine sharing >responsibilities. We e-mailed back and forth a lot and just decided >between us who would do what. It was pretty easy. > >NARALO has now grown a lot, as have the people within it. Each >person brings their own talents and skills to the table. I think >that Glenn and my talents are diverse enough that we should be able >to divvy up the workload and actually be able to grow more >initiatives for the region - each taking the lead in what they >prefer or where their skills are. I am quite flexible and would, of >course, do everything I can to make it work - as I always do. I do >not think that we need the job to be "codified" as it is constantly >changing as per the needs of the group. > >Having said that, I would also be in favour of the tie-breaker >solution offered by the 3 ALAC members but my preference will always >be to try to grow and expand the talent pool in the region. > >D > >Darlene A. Thompson >CAP Administrator >N-CAP/Department of Education >P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 >Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 >Phone: (867) 975-5631 >Fax: (867) 975-5610 >dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca >________________________________________ >From: na-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >[na-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Bob Bruen >[bruen(a)coldrain.net] >Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 12:24 PM >To: Thomas Lowenhaupt >Cc: NARALO Discussion List >Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Building consensus on dealing with the election tie > >Hi, > >Darlene has been at this job for long enough to know what to do. I expect >that she and Glenn could figure out how to share the responsibilities, >then let us know. They are both reasonable adults. If there is a problem, >I am sure the Chair could be helpful in settling it. > > > --bob > >On Sat, 27 Jul 2013, Thomas Lowenhaupt wrote: > > > I think the shared responsibility can work. But we must define specific > > responsibilities and metrics for each co-secretary. These metrics will be > > quite helpful when the next election comes along, at least in > evaluating the > > performance of the cos. > > > > Tom Lowenhaupt > > > > > > > > On 7/27/2013 11:37 AM, Skuce, Allan wrote: > >> I still prefer #3. What an opportunity to grow, lead by example, and deal > >> with the great workload. Cheers, Allan > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Dharma Dailey > >> <dharma.dailey(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> > >>> Have we reached clarity on whether folks feel the job can be shared? The > >>> last message from Glenn, I recall, was along the lines of "looking into > >>> it." It might be easier on all parties if some of the details were > >>> discussed before hand so no one is surprised re: who is doing what. > >>> > >>> Dharma > >>> > >>> > >>> On Jul 26, 2013, at 6:44 PM, "Thompson, Darlene" <DThompson1(a)GOV.NU.CA> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi all, > >>>> > >>>> I would like to encourage all NARALO members to consider the options > >>> that Evan has posited below and respond to same. Without consensus we > >>> cannot move forward on this issue. > >>>> Thank you for your time on this! > >>>> > >>>> D > >>>> > >>>> Darlene A. Thompson > >>>> CAP Administrator > >>>> N-CAP/Department of Education > >>>> P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 > >>>> Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 > >>>> Phone: (867) 975-5631 > >>>> Fax: (867) 975-5610 > >>>> dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca > >>>> ________________________________________ > >>>> From: na-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [ > >>> na-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Evan > Leibovitch [ > >>> evan(a)telly.org] > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 4:44 PM > >>>> To: NARALO Discussion List > >>>> Subject: [NA-Discuss] Building consensus on dealing with the > election tie > >>>> > >>>> Hello all, > >>>> > >>>> I would like to suggest conducting a poll of NARALO members on the best > >>> way > >>>> to deal with the tie for Secretariat resulting from the recently-held > >>> vote. > >>>> While we need to revise our regulations regarding tie-breaking, we have > >>> an > >>>> immediate need to resolve the current situation before the next ICANN > >>>> meeting. > >>>> > >>>> Based on discussions I have heard to date, there are three paths to > >>>> resolving this that have received some interest: > >>>> > >>>> 1. Random tie-break > >>>> The votes for ALSs and unaffiliated members is re-held, and the rules > >>>> are modified. If another tie results, the tie is broken by a random > >>> method, > >>>> supervised by at least two non-candidate members and/or At-Large > >>>> staff. > >>>> > >>>> 2. Tie-break by NA-Region ALAC members > >>>> The votes for ALSs and unaffiliated members is re-held and he rules > >>>> are > >>>> modified. If another tie results, the tie is broken by a consensus > >>> achieved > >>>> in private by the three ALAC members for North America (Alan, Eduardo > >>> and > >>>> myself). Since there are three of us, no deadlock is allowed there > >>>> > >>>> 3. Shared Secretariat > >>>> No new election is held, and NARALO declares both Darlene > and Glenn as > >>>> co-Secretariats. While there is no precedent for this in > NARALO, there > >>> is > >>>> elsewhere in ICANN At-Large (both co-Chair and co-Secretariats have > >>> been > >>>> done in other regions). The two would alternate travel to ICANN > >>> meetings > >>>> (though both would naturally be at the Summit in London). In the case > >>> that > >>>> any of the North American At-Large leadership cannot attend a meeting > >>>> (Chair, travel-designated secretariat or ALAC member), the > >>> "non-travelling" > >>>> secretariat member would automatically be designated to take that > >>> travel > >>>> allocation. The rules may still be modified in case of future ties, > >>>> but > >>>> such action is not required immediately. > >>>> > >>>> So I am proposing that, in advance of the next NARALO call, we could do > >>> an > >>>> informal poll of members (by Bigpulse or Doodle) to gain a sense of > >>>> preferences between these options that may help guide a regional > >>> consensus > >>>> on the August call. > >>>> > >>>> Is this a workable plan? Are the options above a valid representation of > >>>> the ones discussed? (There are some other tie-break methods I have > >>>> eliminated because of lack of support to date). > >>>> > >>>> I admit that when I started thinking about the tie I had not given any > >>>> thought to the shared secretariat idea, but it has grown on me since. > >>> There > >>>> is a significant amount of work to do, and it would be IMO a shame to > >>> force > >>>> an all-or-nothing tiebreak on two people with both popular > support and an > >>>> eagerness to do the job. > >>>> > >>>> - Evan > >>>> ------ > >>>> NA-Discuss mailing list > >>>> NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >>>> > > > > ------ > > NA-Discuss mailing list > > NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > > > > Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org > > ------ > > > >-- >Dr. Robert Bruen >Cold Rain Labs >http://coldrain.net/bruen >+1.802.579.6288 > >------ >NA-Discuss mailing list >NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > >Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >------ >------ >NA-Discuss mailing list >NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > >Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >------

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Building consensus on dealing with the election tie
by Evan Leibovitch Aug. 3, 2013

Aug. 3, 2013

Hello all, I would like to suggest conducting a poll of NARALO members on the best way to deal with the tie for Secretariat resulting from the recently-held vote. While we need to revise our regulations regarding tie-breaking, we have an immediate need to resolve the current situation before the next ICANN meeting. Based on discussions I have heard to date, there are three paths to resolving this that have received some interest: 1. Random tie-break The votes for ALSs and unaffiliated members is re-held, and the rules are modified. If another tie results, the tie is broken by a random method, supervised by at least two non-candidate members and/or At-Large staff. 2. Tie-break by NA-Region ALAC members The votes for ALSs and unaffiliated members is re-held and he rules are modified. If another tie results, the tie is broken by a consensus achieved in private by the three ALAC members for North America (Alan, Eduardo and myself). Since there are three of us, no deadlock is allowed there 3. Shared Secretariat No new election is held, and NARALO declares both Darlene and Glenn as co-Secretariats. While there is no precedent for this in NARALO, there is elsewhere in ICANN At-Large (both co-Chair and co-Secretariats have been done in other regions). The two would alternate travel to ICANN meetings (though both would naturally be at the Summit in London). In the case that any of the North American At-Large leadership cannot attend a meeting (Chair, travel-designated secretariat or ALAC member), the "non-travelling" secretariat member would automatically be designated to take that travel allocation. The rules may still be modified in case of future ties, but such action is not required immediately. So I am proposing that, in advance of the next NARALO call, we could do an informal poll of members (by Bigpulse or Doodle) to gain a sense of preferences between these options that may help guide a regional consensus on the August call. Is this a workable plan? Are the options above a valid representation of the ones discussed? (There are some other tie-break methods I have eliminated because of lack of support to date). I admit that when I started thinking about the tie I had not given any thought to the shared secretariat idea, but it has grown on me since. There is a significant amount of work to do, and it would be IMO a shame to force an all-or-nothing tiebreak on two people with both popular support and an eagerness to do the job. - Evan

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FW: ARIN's Meeting Fellowship Program - spreading the word!
by Thompson, Darlene Aug. 2, 2013

Aug. 2, 2013

ARIN wanted to share the below with us in order to "spread the word". D Darlene A. Thompson CAP Administrator N-CAP/Department of Education P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca ________________________________________ Apply by August 28th for the ARIN 32 Fellowship program and join us in Phoenix, Arizona from 10-11 October. Selected Fellows will receive free airfare, hotel, and a stipend. This is a great opportunity to learn more about ARIN services, meet industry peers and start voicing your opinions in policy discussions. Not only does the program serve an educational purpose, but it can also be pretty fun! Take a few minutes and submit your application today at: https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/fellowship.html This program was developed to encourage new participants, so if you regularly attend ARIN meetings we appreciate you forwarding this information to a friend or colleague and help ARIN cultivate new voices. Please direct any questions you have to info(a)arin.net. Regards, Susan Hamlin, Director Communications and Member Services American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)

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NOMCOM Completion
by Glenn McKnight Aug. 1, 2013

Aug. 1, 2013

Hi All We wrapped up the NOMCOM 2013. It's been two years for me and the position is term limited We have selected a great slate of people for Directors, gNSO,ccNSO and ALAC. We had 15 members in this year's council selecting from a large than normal set of SOI's It's now Day 13 for me in Durban and it started off with my involvement with the 1st African School of Internet Governance in Durban with 35 participants from across Africa, put on by APC and the training was done by the usual suspects ie. Bill Drake, Avri, and Wolfgang. Lots of video has been shot of the sessions and it will be posted on the NCUC website which has a video section. The DNS and Africa event followed this event along with the AFRALO Showcase. Again each of the speeches have been video taped but they are not yet posted since AFRALO doesn't have it's own site or facebook page. Lots of more sessions were recorded and available upon request. A discussion on where to host the pictures and video needs to be addressed. Good luck to Louis as the new representative A full August report will be available at our next call G Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn(a)gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight .

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