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Re: [NA-Discuss] [ga] Root-Servers missing: g.root-servers.net and k.root-servers.net
by Kim Davies July 29, 2008

July 29, 2008

In the interests of bringing some facts into this thread, I hope this clarifies: * neither the G or K root are operated by ICANN or IANA; * neither was offline in the last few days prior to the complaint; * the original person who observed problems with the K root spoke with the K root operator on another list and the issue was identified as likely local to the observer's network, not to the root server; * as for the claim that "the US Military like the Canadian military complex often gets attacks routed through the IANA", I have no idea what this means. Perhaps the complainant could explain precisely that they mean. Attached is a graph of the responsiveness of all 13 root servers for the last 48 hours, as tested from 69 testing points around the world. If it was predominantly offline it would show as a solid red bar. As you can see one such event occured for G root, but that was at 1600 GMT on Monday, after this thread had started. By looking at that in more detail detail on the second graph, we can see it was still up and answering, but was problematic reaching it from many test sites. (If it was offline it will be universally red all the way down the graph) kim

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Welcome ISOC NY to ICANN At-Large!
by At-Large Staff July 29, 2008

July 29, 2008

Tuesday, July 29, 2008 TO: Internet Society New York Chapter (ISOC NY) FROM: ICANN At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) SUBJECT: At-Large Structure Certification ICANN's At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) is pleased to inform you that ISOC NY has been certified as an At-Large Structure (ALS). The ALAC greatly appreciates your group¹s interest in involving individual users in ICANN and looks forward to working with you and your colleagues. The purpose of ALS certification is to recognize that your organizationå meets the necessary criteria to involve individual Internet users at the local or issue level in ICANN activities, and that your organization will support its individual members' informed participation in ICANN efforts that affect end-users. The ALAC is eager to promote a productive working relationship between your organization, other ALS, and the ALAC (and ICANN in general), and your input on how we can make this a success would be greatly appreciated. We would like to offer some initial tools to help your organization keep its members informed (about significant news from ICANN and information on ICANN policy-development efforts) and engaged in activities of interest: - Point of Contact for your Organisation: Please send an email to staff(a)atlarge.icann.org identifying the names and email addresses of one or two individuals who will be the point of contact for information and correspondence regarding ICANN At-Large. If this changes, please let us know. - At Large Mailing Lists. There are many At Large email lists, for each region; you can signup for them and manage your subscriptions at: http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo. The points of contact you identify will automatically be added to your region¹s list just for accredited ALSes to discuss regional issues; you are invited to join others as you wish. - ALS information. Information about your organization will be shared with the At-Large community to enable individuals interested in your group's activities to contact you, and to encourage cooperation with other groups interested in ICANN activities in your geographic region. Please complete and email the form at the bottom of this note to staff(a)atlarge.icann.org. - ALAC website. The ALAC website (www.atlarge.icann.org) is a good source for ICANN news and information of interest to individual Internet users. We encourage you to provide your members with a link. The ALAC relies on volunteers to translate information into multiple languages. Translations of documents on the website are welcome and should be sent to staff(a)atlarge.icann.org. - At-Large Regional Websites. Regional webpages also have been created to distribute information (including in local languages) on activities, events and issues of particular interest to people in each region. These are being very substantially revised in the next couple of weeks but you should keep the URLs handy and check back regularly. They are: African Region: http://www.afralo.org/ Asia/Australia/Pacific Region: http://www.apralo.org/ European Region: http://www.euralo.org/ Latin America/Caribbean Region: http://www.lacralo.org/ North American Region: http://www.naralo.org/ - Regional WiKi: Each At-Large Region has a Wiki that allows the region to collaborate. These are maintained by the community and create the regional websites shown above. This framework is in the final stages of preparation but if you wish to have a user account, send an email to staff(a)atlarge.icann.org We look forward to working with you and your organization's members to advance individual Internet users' interests within ICANN. If you have any questions, or need additional information, please contact us at staff(a)atlarge.icann.org. Sincerely, The At-Large Advisory Committee www.atlarge.icann.org staff(a)atlarge.icann.org --------------------------- Name: Location (city/country/region; whatever is relevant to your membership): Mission: Member benefits: Contacts (name/s and email address/es -- title/s optional): Website: Other (additional informational you would like included): -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Frederic Teboul ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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FYI: FCC Commissioner Urges, Don't Regulate the Internet
by Jeffrey A. Williams July 29, 2008

July 29, 2008

All, As has been my and our members contention for years, it's good and heartening to read a well reasoned and considered bit on whom should be managing Internet resources. However I believe that Comcast got it's just reward. Yet the pulling of the plug on Usenet is not reasonable as cleaning it up can and should be doable. However the Usenet groups that promote Child Porn should be shut down immediately! Such action does not predicate or require that ALL of Usenet have it's proverbial plug pulled... Yet recent events and lack of precipitous action on the part of ICANN and the IANA regarding DNS, has given many of our members to be yet again reconsider that perhaps some USG regulation on DNS and IP address management, is needed. Such management should come from professional Technical folks, not social science bureaucrats and/or activists of various bents. See: http://www.brettglass.com/FCC/remarks.html Brett Glass writes "In an op-ed in today's Washington Post, FCC Commissioner Robert McDowell http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/27/AR200807270… makes a case against government regulation of the Internet, opining that 'engineers, not politicians or bureaucrats, should solve engineering problems.' With state governments pressuring ISPs to http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/17/2243210&tid=95 pull the plug on Usenet, and a proposal now in play for a http://www.cato.org/tech/tk/080124-tk.html censored public Internet, McDowell may have a very good point." McDowell is one of the two FCC commissioners who did not vote with the majority to http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/27/1257237&tid=230 punish Comcast for their BitTorrent throttling. Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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FYI: ABA Judges Get an Earful About RIAA Litigations
by Jeffrey A. Williams July 29, 2008

July 29, 2008

All, This should send a more significant message to the RIAA and as far as ICANN is concerned, the IPC a message that if the IPC is wise, will assist it in revoking the RIAA's membership, or council them in a harsh but necessary manner... Councilor Beckerman, and outstanding legal mind, has framed the situation in a reasonable and appropriate manner. One can only hope that ICANN's Bod and staff will take the hint... Lets also hope it gives the GNSO council the proper perspective in respect to the GNSO review report recently released and amend that report accordingly. http://beckermanlegal.com/ NewYorkCountryLawyer writes "I was afforded the opportunity to write for a slightly different audience the judges who belong to the http://www.abanet.org/jd/home.html Judicial Division of the American Bar Association. I was invited by the http://www.abanet.org/jd/publications/jjournal/ The Judges Journal, their quarterly publication, to do a piece on the RIAA litigations for the ABA's Summer 2008 'Equal Access to Justice' issue. What I came up with was ' http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2008/07/aba-judges-journal-ar… Large Recording Companies vs. The Defenseless: Some Common Sense Solutions to the Challenges of the RIAA Litigations,' in which I describe the unfairness of these cases and make 15 suggestions as to how the courts could level the playing field. I'm hoping the judges mod my article '+5 Insightful,' but I'd settle for '+3 Informative. ' Here is the http://beckermanlegal.com/Documents/080729LargeRecordingCompaniesVsTheDefen… actual article (PDF). (If anyone out there can send me a decent HTML version of it, I'll run that one up the flagpole as well.)" Wired is http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/07/riaa-critic-bec.html helping to spread the word on Ray's article. Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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Re: [NA-Discuss] [ga] Root-Servers missing: g.root-servers.net andk.root-servers.net
by Jeffrey A. Williams July 29, 2008

July 29, 2008

Kim and all There are two statements you state are facts that the evidence does not bare out. 1.) G & K root servers were down or unreachable for a short period of time "Prior" to the complaint. I have that data confirming such. 2.) The person to which you refer to in the attacks routed through the IANA was Dr. Joe Baptista, and he is essentially correct and was very explicit as to what, how, and why such attacks occasionally occur. The data of such has also been preserved and can be verified. The data in *your attachment* is *not relevant* to the attacks which Dr. Joe explicitly articulated very clearly and briefly. But it is not really relevant to further belabor this incident, as it was not a significant incident of concern, but may be one possible or likely reference if future incidents of a similar nature occur at some unknown future date. Kim Davies wrote: > In the interests of bringing some facts into this thread, I hope this clarifies: > > * neither the G or K root are operated by ICANN or IANA; > > * neither was offline in the last few days prior to the complaint; > > * the original person who observed problems with the K root spoke with the K root operator on another list and the issue was identified as likely local to the observer's network, not to the root server; > > * as for the claim that "the US Military like the Canadian military complex often gets attacks routed through the IANA", I have no idea what this means. Perhaps the complainant could explain precisely that they mean. > > Attached is a graph of the responsiveness of all 13 root servers for the last 48 hours, as tested from 69 testing points around the world. If it was predominantly offline it would show as a solid red bar. As you can see one such event occured for G root, but that was at 1600 GMT on Monday, after this thread had started. By looking at that in more detail detail on the second graph, we can see it was still up and answering, but was problematic reaching it from many test sites. (If it was offline it will be universally red all the way down the graph) > > kim > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------ > NA-Discuss mailing list > NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists.ic… > > Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org > ------ Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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FWD again: Re: [ga] Apple Still Has Not Patched the DNS Hole
by Jeffrey A. Williams July 29, 2008

July 29, 2008

Patrick and all, Sorry Patrick, but the security hole in DNS/Bind has been known for years. And ISC knew it was because I and several people told and demonstrated many times of this hole in DNS/Bind back in 2000. Why wasn't it addressed by ISC than? So Dan wasn't the first by a long shot in making this and other security holes in DNS known. We fixed it in our DNS shortly after we confirmed it back in 2000. We named our product BindPlus and is being used currently by WISE providers sense 2001. Incompatance of this sort and magnitude should never be taken lightly and in my professional opinion, cannot be tolorated at all! For further refrence to what I am contending review the archives at: http://www.dnso.org/mailinglists.html In case some are missing due to creative editing, I still have three archived copies. Patrick Vande Walle wrote: > Jeffrey A. Williams wrote: > > All, > > > > As an example to another thread and for Joe's edification. > > > > An article up at TidBITS on http://db.tidbits.com/article/9706 > > Apple's unexplained failure to patch the DNS vulnerability that we have > > been http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/25/1334254&tid=172 > > discussing for a > > http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/21/2212227&tid=172 > > few weeks now. "Apple uses the popular Internet Systems > > Consortium BIND DNS server which was one of the first tools patched, > > but Apple has yet to include the fixed version in Mac OS X Server, > > despite > > being notified of vulnerability details early in the process and being > > informed of the coordinated patch release date. > > > Sometimes, it may be wise to wait: > > "The group responsible for maintaining the internet's most popular > domain name software BIND has admitted it caused problems by > fast-tracking a security patch designed to fix the widescale DNS flaw > discovered by researcher Dan Kaminsky this month." > > http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/security/soa/DNS-patch-causes-BIND-blunder/0,1… > > Patrick Vande Walle > > -- > Patrick Vande Walle > Check my blog: http://patrick.vande-walle.eu Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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[Fwd: Re: [At-Large] Number of Recipients to Mailing Lists]
by Jeffrey A. Williams July 29, 2008

July 29, 2008

All, See below... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [At-Large] Number of Recipients to Mailing Lists Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:23:46 -0700 From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com> Organization: IDNS and Spokesman for INEGroup To: At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org>,GAC Rep <ssene(a)ntia.doc.gov> CC: At-Large Worldwide <alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org>,Cheryl Langdon-Orr <cheryl(a)hovtek.com.au> References: <C4B5BDD4.54C7B%staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> Nick and all, Thank you for admitting that the chair is interested in censorship. Such a practice, as you should know is a very questionable one in that it violates IETF standard, is prelude to a waste of bandwidth, limits freedom of expression which is also a very questionable Constitutional issue/violation in the US, is not in keeping with the MOU, and serves as a significant potential for Forwarding to other recipients that would normally have been "CC'ed" in the original post, and BTW, "CC'ing" is not cross posting by definition, and also serves as an influence on additionally wasting electricity, which in the present resource conservation movement of such a resource gives the appearance of misuse under the law intentionally. In any event, and as a result of this belated notice, I shall resend my posts of today to ALL of the original recipients separately in accordance to this horrible and illegitimate notice accordingly. At-Large Staff wrote: > Dear All: > > In keeping with a request from the Chair of the ALAC, responding to many > community requests, the total number of recipients of emails to the At-Large > lists has been limited to five per email. > > This is by way of helping to reduce crossposting and of multiple copies of > the same message being received by recipients who are at the same time > direct recipients of a message and mailing list members. > > If you receive a bounce from the mailing lists, and you are subscribed and > routinely are able to send emails to that list, please look at the number of > recipients the message had. > -- > Regards, > > Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Frederic Teboul > ICANN At-Large Staff > email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org > Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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Apple Still Has Not Patched the DNS Hole
by Jeffrey A. Williams July 28, 2008

July 28, 2008

All, As an example to another thread and for Joe's edification. An article up at TidBITS on http://db.tidbits.com/article/9706 Apple's unexplained failure to patch the DNS vulnerability that we have been http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/25/1334254&tid=172 discussing for a http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/21/2212227&tid=172 few weeks now. "Apple uses the popular Internet Systems Consortium BIND DNS server which was one of the first tools patched, but Apple has yet to include the fixed version in Mac OS X Server, despite being notified of vulnerability details early in the process and being informed of the coordinated patch release date. Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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Re: [NA-Discuss] [ga] Root-Servers missing: g.root-servers.net andk.root-servers.net
by Jeffrey A. Williams July 28, 2008

July 28, 2008

Joe and all, Well I thank you for the digression as it is useful and informational to a great extent. I would slightly disagree that the US or Canadian Military does a "fairly good job of protecting their infrastructure", as you stated. The may and seemingly do now, but this is a recent occurrence as you know the Pentagon's and the Air Forces Email was grossly hacked only a few months ago and was made newsworthy accordingly, and rightfully so. What is significant and noteworthy is that only recently has it been finally fully recognized of the inherent insecurity of current and prevalent configurations of DNS at various levels. These security holes have been known for some time but were denied of down played when several of us in 2001 made note of such to ICANN and the IANA. Ergo, as the delay in excepting these security deficiencies have now come home to roost, as it were, and causing significant havoc rather precipitously. Some DN holders and Service providers still have not made the necessary adjustments and/or remain in denial. Yes the Roots are working now, but were down for a short time, and seemingly for good reason(s). Joe Baptista wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Jeffrey A. > Williams <jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > Joe and all, > > Yes indeed the US Military like the Canadian military > complex > often gets attacks routed through the IANA. Frankly this is > or > has been concerning. I for one am glad to see that as you > indicated > that the US Military establishment has finnaly taken the > wise and > necessary course of action and filtered out the IANA mess. > > > Thats not exactly what may be happening. IANA may not the issue. > Their network could of been under attack and they took the necessary > precautions - like filtering out icmp - not IANA. The roots are > working last time i checked. > > And the U.S. military does a fairly good job of protecting their > infrastructure. Mind you when the Republicans commissioned me to do a > sweep of the DOD DNS infrastructure years ago - they were not looking > very pretty. They are much improved these days. They of all realize > the internet is a dangerous place to be. And they take the > appropriate precautions. > > Mind you - I understand the China military find the whole USG, DoD, > IANA infrastructure very vulnerable to attack - and make fun of it at > parties. I think most of that is attributed to vulnerabilities in the > DNS. > > anyway - sorry I digressed. > > regards > joe baptista > > > > > Joe Baptista wrote: > > > I got the same thing on my end this morning. But it has > since been > > fixed. There indeed is an issue at 198.26.75.42 - which > is the > > department of defense - usa - but it might just be some > filtering is > > being done to ward off an attack. DoD gets a lot of cyber > attacks on > > a daily basis so it looks like 198.26.75.42 is filtering > out icmp at > > the iana g.root. > > > > regards > > joe baptista > > > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Peter Dambier > <peter(a)pccf.net> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I guess it might be a local glitch, anycast? > > > > Root-Servers SOA records > > > > > soa(".","2008072800","a.root-servers.net","198.41.0.4"). > > > soa(".","2008072701","b.root-servers.net","192.228.79.201"). > > > > > > soa(".","2008072800","c.root-servers.net","192.33.4.12"). > > > soa(".","2008072800","d.root-servers.net","128.8.10.90"). > > > soa(".","2008072800","e.root-servers.net","192.203.230.10"). > > > > > > soa(".","2008072800","f.root-servers.net","192.5.5.241"). > > error(".","g.root-servers.net","192.112.36.4","no > > response"). > > > soa(".","2008072800","h.root-servers.net","128.63.2.53"). > > > soa(".","2008072800","i.root-servers.net","192.36.148.17"). > > > soa(".","2008072800","j.root-servers.net","192.58.128.30"). > > error(".","k.root-servers.net","193.0.14.129","no > > response"). > > > soa(".","2008072800","l.root-servers.net","199.7.83.42"). > > > soa(".","2008072800","m.root-servers.net","202.12.27.33"). > > > > > > Trying traceroute says > > > > traceroute to g.root-servers.net (192.112.36.4), 64 > hops > > max, 40 byte packets > > 1 yttrium.anul.nsa (7.19.30.39) 1 ms 0 ms 0 ms > > 2 * * * > > 3 217.0.78.58 (217.0.78.58) 46 ms 45 ms 44 ms > > 4 62.154.15.161 (62.154.15.161) 177 ms 177 ms > 178 ms > > 5 62.156.128.158 (62.156.128.158) 176 ms 178 ms > 177 ms > > 6 cer-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.139.149) 178 > ms > > 177 ms 178 ms > > 7 chi-core-01.inet.qwest.net (67.14.9.10) 178 ms > 178 ms > > 178 ms > > 8 * chi-edge-08.inet.qwest.net (205.171.20.118) > 177 ms * > > 9 216.207.8.198 (216.207.8.198) 189 ms 190 ms > 188 ms > > 10 198.26.75.33 (198.26.75.33) 188 ms 190 ms 189 > ms > > 11 198.26.75.42 (198.26.75.42) 188 ms 190 ms 188 > ms > > 12 * * * > > 13 * * * > > > > So routing does not know where to find "g". > > > > traceroute to k.root-servers.net (193.0.14.129), 64 > hops > > max, 40 byte packets > > 1 yttrium.anul.nsa (7.19.30.39) 1 ms 0 ms 0 ms > > 2 * * * > > 3 217.0.78.54 (217.0.78.54) 46 ms 45 ms 45 ms > > 4 194.25.6.201 (194.25.6.201) 63 ms 63 ms 64 ms > > 5 f10.router.linx.k.ripe.net (217.79.160.94) 61 > ms 62 > > ms 61 ms > > 6 k.root-servers.net (193.0.14.129) 64 ms 63 ms > 63 ms > > > > "k" has come back or has been redirected. > > > > Kind regards > > Peter > > > > -- > > Peter and Karin Dambier > > Planet Communication and Computing Facility > > Rimbacher Strasse 16 > > D-69509 Moerlenbach-Bonsweiher > > +49(6209)795-816 (Telekom) > > +49(6252)750-308 (VoIP: sipgate.de) > > mail: peter(a)pccf.net > > http://www.pccf.net/ > > http://www.peter-dambier.de/ > > http://iason.site.voila.fr/ > > https://sourceforge.net/projects/iason/ > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Joe Baptista > > www.publicroot.org > > PublicRoot Consortium > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > The future of the Internet is Open, Transparent, > Inclusive, > > Representative & Accountable to the Internet community > @large. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Office: +1 (360) 526-6077 (extension 052) > > Fax: +1 (509) 479-0084 > > > > > Regards, > > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k > members/stakeholders strong!) > "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - > Abraham Lincoln > > "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with > what is > very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt > > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the > burden, B; > liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied > by > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." > United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. > 1947] > ===== > ========================================================= > Updated 1/26/04 > CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data > security IDNS. > div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. > ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail > jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com > My Phone: 214-244-4827 > > > > > > -- > Joe Baptista > www.publicroot.org > PublicRoot Consortium > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > The future of the Internet is Open, Transparent, Inclusive, > Representative & Accountable to the Internet community @large. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Office: +1 (360) 526-6077 (extension 052) > Fax: +1 (509) 479-0084 > > Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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ALAC Review Final Report Available; Consultation Open
by At-Large Staff July 28, 2008

July 28, 2008

Dear All: ALAC Review: Final Report by Independent Evaluator Released 25 July 2008 ICANN is posting the summary ( http://www.icann.org/reviews/alac/summary-alac-independent-review-25jul08.pd f PDF, 85K) and final report ( http://www.icann.org/reviews/alac/alac-independent-review-final-25jul08.pdf [PDF, 561K] of the Independent Review of the ALAC submitted by Westlake Consulting. These documents will be available shortly in multiple languages. ICANN is seeking public comment on the report. Details on the public comment forum can be found at this URL: http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/public-comment-200809.html#alac-rev-j ul08. The Chair of the ALAC requests that all ALSes consider the report carefully and make comments during the public comment period. It is envisaged that an ALAC response will be produced with full consultation by the At-Large community. Westlake Consulting was selected by ICANN's Board to conduct the independent review of the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and related structures. Key objectives of the review include: * [To determine] whether the ALAC has a continuing purpose in the ICANN structure; and, * If so, whether any change in structure or operations is desirable to improve its effectiveness. This review is part of ICANN's ongoing commitment to its evolution and improvement. ICANN's bylaws require periodic, independent examinations of the role and operation of key elements of ICANN. More information about ICANN Independent Reviews is available at <http://www.icann.org/en/reviews/>. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Frederic Teboul ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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