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Re: [NA-Discuss] Funded Workshop Proposal
by Carlton Samuels Dec. 9, 2010

Dec. 9, 2010

If I may be accommodated, I'm not sure that all of the issues Danny proposed should be taken but I certainly endorse the idea of such a workshop. Since the issues are indeed global, I would also suggest that the proposal be sent to all regions for possible endorsement and, thus, a global workshop. Carlton ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround ============================= On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 3:11 PM, <na-discuss-request(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org>wrote: > Send NA-Discuss mailing list submissions to > na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > na-discuss-request(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > na-discuss-owner(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NA-Discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Funded Workshop Proposal (Eric Brunner-Williams) > 2. Re: Funded Workshop Proposal (Beau Brendler) > 3. Re: Funded Workshop Proposal (Beau Brendler) > 4. Re: Funded Workshop Proposal (Evan Leibovitch) > 5. Re: Funded Workshop Proposal (Chris Grundemann) > 6. Response to the ICANN Complaince Letter to Myself > (Garth Bruen at KnujOn) > 7. NCSG/consumer candidate constituency (Beau Brendler) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 07:02:54 -0500 > From: Eric Brunner-Williams <ebw(a)abenaki.wabanaki.net> > Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Funded Workshop Proposal > To: na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Message-ID: <4D00C56E.5010006(a)abenaki.wabanaki.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Danny, > > It is early in the morning, pre-coffee, but I know you appreciate > prompt feedback, so I'm just looking at the topics, item 2, bullet > items of the final paragraph. > > The list offered of topics the proposed workshop will consider is > somewhat backwards looking, that is, some of the topics of > consideration have been the subjects of past policy making efforts: > > o gaming by registrars > o vertical integration > o domain tasting > o speculation and warehousing > o front-running > > I'd like to cover new ground before the actual transition to > delegation period is experienced for the cohort of new applications > that will affect North American users of the DNS and the North > American public interest. > > Eric > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 07:48:41 -0500 (GMT-05:00) > From: Beau Brendler <beaubrendler(a)earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Funded Workshop Proposal > To: Danny Younger <dannyyounger(a)yahoo.com>, > na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Message-ID: > < > 14840407.1291898922048.JavaMail.root(a)mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I think it's an excellent proposal, well-thought out. To the list of > workshop items: > > ? whether the current process is amenable to gaming by registrars > ? the risks to the consumer associated with Vertical Integration > ? the possible re-emergence of the domain tasting phenomenon > ? risks associated with the current lack of articulated graduated > sanctions in the current Applicant Guidebook > ? issues associated with the Independent Objector procedures > ? the lack of any policy governing domain name speculation and/or > warehousing by registrars > ? front-running scenarios > ? potential issues associated with pre-registration practices > > I might add: safety and stability issues potentially incurred by new > "holes" in the DNS opened by new gTLD operators. > > As far as funding a workshop goes, I'm afraid I have no clue what money is > available. Whatever is budgeted, though, should include a substantial amount > for publicity, as you will want a strong attendance for a variety of > reasons. > > Lastly, should the money not be available, we could take the workshop items > above and fashion them into a NARALO statement we could present (whether > ALAC supports it or not) > > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Danny Younger <dannyyounger(a)yahoo.com> > >Sent: Dec 9, 2010 12:28 AM > >To: na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >Cc: beaubrendler(a)earthlink.net, langdonorr(a)gmail.com > >Subject: Funded Workshop Proposal > > > >Dear Beau and members of the NARALO: > > > >As I remain troubled by the consumer issues that may arise in conjunction > with the launch of an unprecedented amount of new gTLDs, I have attached a > proposal for your review. > > > >Feedback will be highly appreciated. > > > >Thanks, > >Danny Younger > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 07:50:50 -0500 (GMT-05:00) > From: Beau Brendler <beaubrendler(a)earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Funded Workshop Proposal > To: Eric Brunner-Williams <ebw(a)abenaki.wabanaki.net>, > na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Message-ID: > < > 15060822.1291899051372.JavaMail.root(a)mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > indeed, vertical integration may be off the table at this point. but we > have heard several examples already of warehousing -- something Danny and I > tried to bring to the attention of ICANN at least two years ago. > > there may be a separate PDP process for warehousing > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Eric Brunner-Williams <ebw(a)abenaki.wabanaki.net> > >Sent: Dec 9, 2010 7:02 AM > >To: na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Funded Workshop Proposal > > > >Danny, > > > >It is early in the morning, pre-coffee, but I know you appreciate > >prompt feedback, so I'm just looking at the topics, item 2, bullet > >items of the final paragraph. > > > >The list offered of topics the proposed workshop will consider is > >somewhat backwards looking, that is, some of the topics of > >consideration have been the subjects of past policy making efforts: > > > > o gaming by registrars > > o vertical integration > > o domain tasting > > o speculation and warehousing > > o front-running > > > >I'd like to cover new ground before the actual transition to > >delegation period is experienced for the cohort of new applications > >that will affect North American users of the DNS and the North > >American public interest. > > > >Eric > >------ > >NA-Discuss mailing list > >NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > > > >Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org > >------ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 08:10:28 -0500 > From: Evan Leibovitch <evan(a)telly.org> > Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Funded Workshop Proposal > To: Beau Brendler <beaubrendler(a)earthlink.net> > Cc: na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Message-ID: > <AANLkTim=P22E246QLhwWkLshDUJZ68hHo0mQV2Sut+Xo(a)mail.gmail.com<P22E246QLhwWkLshDUJZ68hHo0mQV2Sut%2BXo(a)mail.gmail.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi Danny, > > This is all extremely useful. However I don't think it's appropriate to > keep > this within the region. For us to be effective in moving this worward as > advice (to both polcy and implementation) it needs to be brought to the > wider, global forum of At-Large. There is nothing in the propoal that is > limited in scope to North America. > > As I hope you are aware, ALAC has already take taken an official (and > unanimously endorsed) position that the current Applicant Guidebook is > unacceptable and against the public good. As such, an opportunity to > address > deficiencies is both welcome an appropriate IMO. > > - Evan > > > On 9 December 2010 07:50, Beau Brendler <beaubrendler(a)earthlink.net> > wrote: > > > > > indeed, vertical integration may be off the table at this point. but we > > have heard several examples already of warehousing -- something Danny and > I > > tried to bring to the attention of ICANN at least two years ago. > > > > there may be a separate PDP process for warehousing > > > > -----Original Message----- > > >From: Eric Brunner-Williams <ebw(a)abenaki.wabanaki.net> > > >Sent: Dec 9, 2010 7:02 AM > > >To: na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > >Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Funded Workshop Proposal > > > > > >Danny, > > > > > >It is early in the morning, pre-coffee, but I know you appreciate > > >prompt feedback, so I'm just looking at the topics, item 2, bullet > > >items of the final paragraph. > > > > > >The list offered of topics the proposed workshop will consider is > > >somewhat backwards looking, that is, some of the topics of > > >consideration have been the subjects of past policy making efforts: > > > > > > o gaming by registrars > > > o vertical integration > > > o domain tasting > > > o speculation and warehousing > > > o front-running > > > > > >I'd like to cover new ground before the actual transition to > > >delegation period is experienced for the cohort of new applications > > >that will affect North American users of the DNS and the North > > >American public interest. > > > > > >Eric > > >------ > > >NA-Discuss mailing list > > >NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > > > > > >Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org > > >------ > > > > ------ > > NA-Discuss mailing list > > NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > > > > Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org > > ------ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 10:03:37 -0700 > From: Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann(a)coisoc.org> > Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Funded Workshop Proposal > To: Evan Leibovitch <evan(a)telly.org> > Cc: na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Message-ID: > <AANLkTi=V_8w5oLNGQSwph-m4G5Sz7U+r8Ytv6MXFDoV7(a)mail.gmail.com<V_8w5oLNGQSwph-m4G5Sz7U%2Br8Ytv6MXFDoV7(a)mail.gmail.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 06:10, Evan Leibovitch <evan(a)telly.org> wrote: > > Hi Danny, > > > > This is all extremely useful. However I don't think it's appropriate to > keep > > this within the region. For us to be effective in moving this worward as > > advice (to both polcy and implementation) it needs to be brought to the > > wider, global forum of At-Large. There is nothing in the propoal that is > > limited in scope to North America. > > While the scope of the issues are not local to North America, their > effects may be best understood from a regional viewpoint. Also, > globally scoped workshops can make travel, coordination and cost much > more onerous. I support the idea of this being a NARALO workshop and > believe that having a regional focus will be beneficial. > > ~Chris > > > As I hope you are aware, ALAC has already take taken an official (and > > unanimously endorsed) position that the current Applicant Guidebook is > > unacceptable and against the public good. As such, an opportunity to > address > > deficiencies is both welcome an appropriate IMO. > > > > - Evan > > ------ > > NA-Discuss mailing list > > NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > > > > Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org > > ------ > > > > -- > @ChrisGrundemann > weblog.chrisgrundemann.com > www.burningwiththebush.com > www.coisoc.org > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 12:09:21 -0700 > From: "Garth Bruen at KnujOn" <gbruen(a)knujon.com> > Subject: [NA-Discuss] Response to the ICANN Complaince Letter to > Myself > To: na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Message-ID: > < > 20101209120921.4ea5342b4f0c5bb9c50429b56f1eb1a7.80a08b7150.wbe(a)email13.secureserver.net > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Folks, > > I have just sent a response to Stacy Burnette's public letter to > me(http://www.icann.org/en/correspondence/burnette-to-bruen-08dec10-en.pdf > ). > As many of you know the issues I have been raising were reported in June > to compliance staff. I note that response from Ms. Burnette is welcomed > because it is all we asked for originally, a declaration from the > department of what is compliant and what is non-compliant. > > -Garth > > > ################################################################### > Dear Ms. Burnette, > > Thank you for your response, albeit in an unexpected location, in the > ICANN Compliance pages. To my knowledge, this is the first time a > non-contracted party has been admonished within the Compliance area; I > will consider it a distinction. While I would encourage a robust debate, > a direct response to the report by ICANN press relations or a > ?counter-point? rebuttal article at the venue (CricleID) would have > been expected. Using the Compliance area to address a public reporter in > a similar manner as non-compliant Registrars may set a dangerous > precedent for your office. Alternatively, it may provide a path to > transparency as more responses to public complaints are posted in this > space. > > I am disappointed in the fact that only ?nine registrars appeared > non-compliant? is being celebrated when all nine violations were > reported to compliance staff nearly six months ago. That only now is > ICANN following up with the normal process is an embarrassment. > > As for some particular items cited in your response, there are problems > with what you consider ?inaccurate.? First, the termination COMPANA > LLC is not posted publicly within the Compliance area at ICANN.ORG so it > would be impossible for us to know it was a moot issue. Additionally, > the lack of this public disclosure points to a deficit in transparency. > > Until recently, the InterNIC directory listed the home page of YNOT > DOMAINS as ?myorderbox.com?, which is still an inoperable site. The > clarification is suitable. > > As for ONLINENIC, this is a more serious situation. Their address is not > readily available on their site, nor is listed at "contact us", "company > info", "support" or "about us.? Buried within the site is this > address: ?909 Marina Village Pkwy #236 Alameda, CA? which is a UPS > box and the third purported California address for ONLINENIC in as many > years. ONLINENIC?s first purported address was determined to be an > empty lot. The second purported address is associated with a business > registration which has been suspended by the California Secretary of > State. ONLINENIC?s real address is likely: ?7F International Trade > Building, 388 South Hubin Road, Xiamen China? which is far from > California?s Bay Area. While ICANN considers this compliance some > would call it concealment and others an effort of anti-transparency. > > As for the remainder, there is no correction required since they did not > display their address. The theme of our article concerns the slow pace > of disclosure. The fact that these Registrars, by your admission, are > party to a contract ten-year?s out of date and apparently excluded > from ICANN consensus policies. Once again, the apparent success touted > in your memo is that Compliance has no power over their contracted > parties in this area. While it may temporarily be seen a failure of > Garth Bruen, it is in fact a serious loss for the whole community. > > In response to your question about reinstated Registrars I point to the > termination reversal of A Technology Company, of which you are already > aware. A Technology co. was issued a non-renewal by ICANN on June 30, > 2010 for failure to pay accreditation fees. The termination was reversed > thirteen days later after the fee was paid. As you will recall they were > still manipulating the WHOIS record for their website and not posting > the business address after being accredited under the 2009 RAA. They > were in fact non-compliant for a month and this was only corrected > because KnujOn raised the issue. Incidentally, A Technology co. was > allowed to cure its breaches after approximately 61 days which is well > beyond the 15-day period stated in the RAA. As another example I would > point to Naugus Limited LLC (naugus.com) a Registrar terminated in 2009 > (http://www.icann.org/correspondence/burnette-to-goodwin-09oct09-en.pdf) > which has apparently been re-instated and accredited under the new RAA. > If they are in fact accredited they are in violation of RAA 3.3.1 for > linking their WHOIS to a third-party paid WHOIS service. As you stated > all prior to renewal Registrar?s websites are checked for compliance, > but this issue was apparently overlooked. > > While you consider our claims about Registrar terminations being mostly > related to money ?baseless?, I invite you to review the 14 > terminations from 2010. Thirteen we terminated chiefly for failure to > pay fees. One, as you mentioned, was terminated for insolvency. > Insolvency is the inability to pay debts, hence their inability to pay > ICANN accreditation fees. Yes, there are other violations cited and > breach notices issued for additional problems, but the outcome of these > breach notices is not made public regularly which is why the only > terminable violation remains failure to pay fees. > > Regretfully, I must also cite that address disclosure is but one problem > area reported to compliance staff by KnujOn nearly six-months ago. To > reiterate some of the issues (sent separately yesterday) we are > concerned about: > > (A) Registrars without Apparent Functioning Web-Based WHOIS > > ?3.3.1 At its expense, Registrar shall provide an interactive web page > and a port 43 Whois service providing free public query-based access to > up-to-date (i.e., updated at least daily) data concerning all active > Registered Names sponsored by Registrar for each TLD in which it is > accredited.? > > EnetRegistry, Inc. (enetregistry.net) Website does not resolve > New Great Domains, Inc.(newgreatdomains.com): No content > VocalSpace LLC (DesktopDomainer.com) ?Login Screen? Only > Premium Registrations Sweden AB (premiumregistrations.com) Login screen > only > Alfena, LLC (alfena.com) Links to Domaintools.com ? a paid WHOIS > service > > The following Registrars have a ?Domain Look-up? service which only > reveals whether or not the domain is available, this is not a WHOIS > service: > Add2Net Inc. (lunarpages.com) > Bottle Domains, Inc. (bottledomains.com.au) > Digitrad France (digitrad.com) > DomainSpa LLC (domainspa.com) > NetRegistry Pty Ltd. (netregistry.com) > Nominalia Internet S.L. (nominalia.com) > Sedo.com LLC (sedo.com) > > We could not locate the web-based WHOIS engine for these Registrars > Porting Access B.V. (portingxs.com) > VentureDomains, Inc. (upc360.com) > Verelink, Inc. (verelink.com) > Hosting.com, Inc. (Hosting.com) > Zog Media, Inc. (zognames.com) > > Domainz Limited (domainz.com) Returns: "Your request could not be > completed", see below > And Autica Domain Services Inc. (autica.com) Only thin WHOIS. > > > (B) Registrars Not Displaying Fees and Deletion Policies > > ?3.7.5.5 If Registrar operates a website for domain name registration > or renewal, details of Registrar's deletion and auto-renewal policies > must be clearly displayed on the website.? > > ?3.7.5.6 If Registrar operates a website for domain registration or > renewal, it should state, both at the time of registration and in a > clear place on its website, any fee charged for the recovery of a domain > name during the Redemption Grace Period.? > > Domain Services Rotterdam BV (tellus.com) Only reseller information > available > Premium Registrations Sweden AB (premiumregistrations.com) Policies not > posted, ?member login? > UltraRPM, Inc.(metapredict.com): No conspicuous terms link > VentureDomains, Inc. (upc360.com) Policies not posted > Zog Media, Inc. (zognames.com) No conspicuous terms/policy link > > > (C) Terminated Registrars Still Selling gTLD Domains and/or Claiming > Accreditation > > AfterGen, Inc. dba JumpingDot (jumpingdot.com) was terminated by ICANN > June 10, 2009 > (http://www.icann.org/correspondence/burnette-to-bourov-10jun09.pdf) but > is still claiming ICANN accreditation. > > Lead Networks Domains Pvt. Ltd. (leadnetworks.com) was issued a letter > of Non-Renewal > (http://www.icann.org/correspondence/burnette-to-malik-14jul09-en.pdf) > on July 14, 2009. Are they still in court-ordered receivership? They are > not listed in the InterNIC directory. > > Broadspire Inc. (broadspire.com) has not been listed in the directory > for some time and while there is no termination document there is a note > on an ICANN page that Broadspire is ?NO LONGER ACCREDITED?. However, > this company still sells gTLDs and claims ICANN accreditation. > > In conclusion, I also hope this is constructive as I am concerned about > what appears, from outside ICANN, to be the disintegration of > compliance. > > > Sincerely and seriously, Garth Bruen > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 15:10:25 -0500 (GMT-05:00) > From: Beau Brendler <beaubrendler(a)earthlink.net> > Subject: [NA-Discuss] NCSG/consumer candidate constituency > To: na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Message-ID: > < > 8393718.1291925426003.JavaMail.root(a)elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > FYI > > Some forward progress > > -----Forwarded Message----- > >From: Avri Doria <avri(a)LTU.SE> > >Sent: Dec 9, 2010 2:57 PM > >To: NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS(a)LISTSERV.SYR.EDU > >Subject: Welcoming Beau Brendler > > > >Hi, > > > >The NCSG-EC has unanimously decided to accept Beau Brendler's application > for individual membership in the NCSG per the charter approved by the NCSG > on 12 June 2010. > > > >Please join me in welcoming Beau to the NCSG. He has been subscribed to > this list. > > > >I would also like to take this opportunity to inform you all that Beau and > Alex have decided to combine their initiatives, the Consumer Constituency > and the Consumer Interest Group, into a single Candidate Constituency. > Rosemary,as the vice-chair of the NCSG-EC and the Board Council appointee > with responsibility of bringing consumer affairs issues to the GNSO, will be > working with them to make this happen as soon and as smoothly as possible. > > > >I must, personally, indicate how very happy I am about this decision on > the part of these NCSG members. > > > >Best Regard from Cartagena de Indias. > > > >a. > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > NA-Discuss mailing list > NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > > > End of NA-Discuss Digest, Vol 50, Issue 12 > ****************************************** >

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NCSG/consumer candidate constituency
by Beau Brendler Dec. 9, 2010

Dec. 9, 2010

FYI Some forward progress -----Forwarded Message----- >From: Avri Doria <avri(a)LTU.SE> >Sent: Dec 9, 2010 2:57 PM >To: NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS(a)LISTSERV.SYR.EDU >Subject: Welcoming Beau Brendler > >Hi, > >The NCSG-EC has unanimously decided to accept Beau Brendler's application for individual membership in the NCSG per the charter approved by the NCSG on 12 June 2010. > >Please join me in welcoming Beau to the NCSG. He has been subscribed to this list. > >I would also like to take this opportunity to inform you all that Beau and Alex have decided to combine their initiatives, the Consumer Constituency and the Consumer Interest Group, into a single Candidate Constituency. Rosemary,as the vice-chair of the NCSG-EC and the Board Council appointee with responsibility of bringing consumer affairs issues to the GNSO, will be working with them to make this happen as soon and as smoothly as possible. > >I must, personally, indicate how very happy I am about this decision on the part of these NCSG members. > >Best Regard from Cartagena de Indias. > >a.

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Response to the ICANN Complaince Letter to Myself
by Garth Bruen at KnujOn Dec. 9, 2010

Dec. 9, 2010

Folks, I have just sent a response to Stacy Burnette's public letter to me(http://www.icann.org/en/correspondence/burnette-to-bruen-08dec10-en.pdf). As many of you know the issues I have been raising were reported in June to compliance staff. I note that response from Ms. Burnette is welcomed because it is all we asked for originally, a declaration from the department of what is compliant and what is non-compliant. -Garth ################################################################### Dear Ms. Burnette, Thank you for your response, albeit in an unexpected location, in the ICANN Compliance pages. To my knowledge, this is the first time a non-contracted party has been admonished within the Compliance area; I will consider it a distinction. While I would encourage a robust debate, a direct response to the report by ICANN press relations or a “counter-point” rebuttal article at the venue (CricleID) would have been expected. Using the Compliance area to address a public reporter in a similar manner as non-compliant Registrars may set a dangerous precedent for your office. Alternatively, it may provide a path to transparency as more responses to public complaints are posted in this space. I am disappointed in the fact that only “nine registrars appeared non-compliant” is being celebrated when all nine violations were reported to compliance staff nearly six months ago. That only now is ICANN following up with the normal process is an embarrassment. As for some particular items cited in your response, there are problems with what you consider “inaccurate.” First, the termination COMPANA LLC is not posted publicly within the Compliance area at ICANN.ORG so it would be impossible for us to know it was a moot issue. Additionally, the lack of this public disclosure points to a deficit in transparency. Until recently, the InterNIC directory listed the home page of YNOT DOMAINS as “myorderbox.com”, which is still an inoperable site. The clarification is suitable. As for ONLINENIC, this is a more serious situation. Their address is not readily available on their site, nor is listed at "contact us", "company info", "support" or "about us.” Buried within the site is this address: “909 Marina Village Pkwy #236 Alameda, CA” which is a UPS box and the third purported California address for ONLINENIC in as many years. ONLINENIC’s first purported address was determined to be an empty lot. The second purported address is associated with a business registration which has been suspended by the California Secretary of State. ONLINENIC’s real address is likely: “7F International Trade Building, 388 South Hubin Road, Xiamen China” which is far from California’s Bay Area. While ICANN considers this compliance some would call it concealment and others an effort of anti-transparency. As for the remainder, there is no correction required since they did not display their address. The theme of our article concerns the slow pace of disclosure. The fact that these Registrars, by your admission, are party to a contract ten-year’s out of date and apparently excluded from ICANN consensus policies. Once again, the apparent success touted in your memo is that Compliance has no power over their contracted parties in this area. While it may temporarily be seen a failure of Garth Bruen, it is in fact a serious loss for the whole community. In response to your question about reinstated Registrars I point to the termination reversal of A Technology Company, of which you are already aware. A Technology co. was issued a non-renewal by ICANN on June 30, 2010 for failure to pay accreditation fees. The termination was reversed thirteen days later after the fee was paid. As you will recall they were still manipulating the WHOIS record for their website and not posting the business address after being accredited under the 2009 RAA. They were in fact non-compliant for a month and this was only corrected because KnujOn raised the issue. Incidentally, A Technology co. was allowed to cure its breaches after approximately 61 days which is well beyond the 15-day period stated in the RAA. As another example I would point to Naugus Limited LLC (naugus.com) a Registrar terminated in 2009 (http://www.icann.org/correspondence/burnette-to-goodwin-09oct09-en.pdf) which has apparently been re-instated and accredited under the new RAA. If they are in fact accredited they are in violation of RAA 3.3.1 for linking their WHOIS to a third-party paid WHOIS service. As you stated all prior to renewal Registrar’s websites are checked for compliance, but this issue was apparently overlooked. While you consider our claims about Registrar terminations being mostly related to money “baseless”, I invite you to review the 14 terminations from 2010. Thirteen we terminated chiefly for failure to pay fees. One, as you mentioned, was terminated for insolvency. Insolvency is the inability to pay debts, hence their inability to pay ICANN accreditation fees. Yes, there are other violations cited and breach notices issued for additional problems, but the outcome of these breach notices is not made public regularly which is why the only terminable violation remains failure to pay fees. Regretfully, I must also cite that address disclosure is but one problem area reported to compliance staff by KnujOn nearly six-months ago. To reiterate some of the issues (sent separately yesterday) we are concerned about: (A) Registrars without Apparent Functioning Web-Based WHOIS “3.3.1 At its expense, Registrar shall provide an interactive web page and a port 43 Whois service providing free public query-based access to up-to-date (i.e., updated at least daily) data concerning all active Registered Names sponsored by Registrar for each TLD in which it is accredited.” EnetRegistry, Inc. (enetregistry.net) Website does not resolve New Great Domains, Inc.(newgreatdomains.com): No content VocalSpace LLC (DesktopDomainer.com) “Login Screen” Only Premium Registrations Sweden AB (premiumregistrations.com) Login screen only Alfena, LLC (alfena.com) Links to Domaintools.com – a paid WHOIS service The following Registrars have a “Domain Look-up” service which only reveals whether or not the domain is available, this is not a WHOIS service: Add2Net Inc. (lunarpages.com) Bottle Domains, Inc. (bottledomains.com.au) Digitrad France (digitrad.com) DomainSpa LLC (domainspa.com) NetRegistry Pty Ltd. (netregistry.com) Nominalia Internet S.L. (nominalia.com) Sedo.com LLC (sedo.com) We could not locate the web-based WHOIS engine for these Registrars Porting Access B.V. (portingxs.com) VentureDomains, Inc. (upc360.com) Verelink, Inc. (verelink.com) Hosting.com, Inc. (Hosting.com) Zog Media, Inc. (zognames.com) Domainz Limited (domainz.com) Returns: "Your request could not be completed", see below And Autica Domain Services Inc. (autica.com) Only thin WHOIS. (B) Registrars Not Displaying Fees and Deletion Policies “3.7.5.5 If Registrar operates a website for domain name registration or renewal, details of Registrar's deletion and auto-renewal policies must be clearly displayed on the website.” “3.7.5.6 If Registrar operates a website for domain registration or renewal, it should state, both at the time of registration and in a clear place on its website, any fee charged for the recovery of a domain name during the Redemption Grace Period.” Domain Services Rotterdam BV (tellus.com) Only reseller information available Premium Registrations Sweden AB (premiumregistrations.com) Policies not posted, “member login” UltraRPM, Inc.(metapredict.com): No conspicuous terms link VentureDomains, Inc. (upc360.com) Policies not posted Zog Media, Inc. (zognames.com) No conspicuous terms/policy link (C) Terminated Registrars Still Selling gTLD Domains and/or Claiming Accreditation AfterGen, Inc. dba JumpingDot (jumpingdot.com) was terminated by ICANN June 10, 2009 (http://www.icann.org/correspondence/burnette-to-bourov-10jun09.pdf) but is still claiming ICANN accreditation. Lead Networks Domains Pvt. Ltd. (leadnetworks.com) was issued a letter of Non-Renewal (http://www.icann.org/correspondence/burnette-to-malik-14jul09-en.pdf) on July 14, 2009. Are they still in court-ordered receivership? They are not listed in the InterNIC directory. Broadspire Inc. (broadspire.com) has not been listed in the directory for some time and while there is no termination document there is a note on an ICANN page that Broadspire is “NO LONGER ACCREDITED”. However, this company still sells gTLDs and claims ICANN accreditation. In conclusion, I also hope this is constructive as I am concerned about what appears, from outside ICANN, to be the disintegration of compliance. Sincerely and seriously, Garth Bruen

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Re: [NA-Discuss] Funded Workshop Proposal
by Beau Brendler Dec. 9, 2010

Dec. 9, 2010

I think it's an excellent proposal, well-thought out. To the list of workshop items: • whether the current process is amenable to gaming by registrars • the risks to the consumer associated with Vertical Integration • the possible re-emergence of the domain tasting phenomenon • risks associated with the current lack of articulated graduated sanctions in the current Applicant Guidebook • issues associated with the Independent Objector procedures • the lack of any policy governing domain name speculation and/or warehousing by registrars • front-running scenarios • potential issues associated with pre-registration practices I might add: safety and stability issues potentially incurred by new "holes" in the DNS opened by new gTLD operators. As far as funding a workshop goes, I'm afraid I have no clue what money is available. Whatever is budgeted, though, should include a substantial amount for publicity, as you will want a strong attendance for a variety of reasons. Lastly, should the money not be available, we could take the workshop items above and fashion them into a NARALO statement we could present (whether ALAC supports it or not) -----Original Message----- >From: Danny Younger <dannyyounger(a)yahoo.com> >Sent: Dec 9, 2010 12:28 AM >To: na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >Cc: beaubrendler(a)earthlink.net, langdonorr(a)gmail.com >Subject: Funded Workshop Proposal > >Dear Beau and members of the NARALO: > >As I remain troubled by the consumer issues that may arise in conjunction with the launch of an unprecedented amount of new gTLDs, I have attached a proposal for your review. > >Feedback will be highly appreciated. > >Thanks, >Danny Younger > > >

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Unanswered Compliance Questions
by Garth Bruen at KnujOn Dec. 8, 2010

Dec. 8, 2010

Folks, I have read through the compliance presentation from yesterday and as you might imagine I am concerned that it does not address multiple issues raised by myself in June 2010 (http://www.knujon.com/knujon_audit0610.pdf) As many of you are aware we were promised a written response but never received one. Instead of re-hashing the previous report in its entirety, I have simply sent 4 easily addressed items to ICANN compliance with a request for response: 1. Registrars with apparent or obvious Contact Address on their website: “3.16 Registrar shall provide on its web site its accurate contact details including a valid email and mailing address (http://www.icann.org/en/registrars/ra-agreement-21may09-en.htm).” Active Registrar, Inc. (activeregistrar.com) COMPANA LLC (budgetnames.com) Directi Internet Solutions Pvt. (publicdomainregistry.com) EVERYONES INTERNET LTD. (resellone.net) NICCO LTD. (nicco.com) RESELLER SERVICES INC. (ResellServ.com) UK2 GROUP LTD. (uk2group.com) VOLUSION, INC. (volusion.com) YNOT DOMAINS CORP (myorderbox.com) ONLINENIC INC. (onlinenic.com) *DOTALLIANCE INC (dotalliance.com) Recently claimed to be a reseller and not a Registrar. ICANN staff confirmed they are a Registrar and are in non-compliance with the RAA. 2. Registrars without Apparent Functioning Web-Based WHOIS: “3.3.1 At its expense, Registrar shall provide an interactive web page and a port 43 Whois service providing free public query-based access to up-to-date (i.e., updated at least daily) data concerning all active Registered Names sponsored by Registrar for each TLD in which it is accredited.” EnetRegistry, Inc. (enetregistry.net) Website does not resolve New Great Domains, Inc.(newgreatdomains.com): No content VocalSpace LLC (DesktopDomainer.com) “Login Screen” Only Premium Registrations Sweden AB (premiumregistrations.com) Login screen only Alfena, LLC (alfena.com) Links to Domaintools.com – a paid WHOIS service The Planet Internet Services, Inc. (theplanet.com) Website now redirects to SoftLayer. Domainz Limited (domainz.com) Returns: "Your request could not be completed" Autica Domain Services Inc. (autica.com) Only thin WHOIS The following Registrars have a “Domain Look-up” service which only reveals whether or not the domain is available, this is not a WHOIS service: Add2Net Inc. (lunarpages.com) Bottle Domains, Inc. (bottledomains.com.au) Digitrad France (digitrad.com) DomainSpa LLC (domainspa.com) NetRegistry Pty Ltd. (netregistry.com) Nominalia Internet S.L. (nominalia.com) Sedo.com LLC (sedo.com) We could not locate the web-based WHOIS engine for these Registrars: Porting Access B.V. (portingxs.com) VentureDomains, Inc. (upc360.com) Verelink, Inc. (verelink.com) Hosting.com, Inc. (Hosting.com) Zog Media, Inc. (zognames.com) 3. Registrars Not Displaying Fees and Deletion Policies: “3.7.5.5 If Registrar operates a website for domain name registration or renewal, details of Registrar's deletion and auto-renewal policies must be clearly displayed on the website.” - “3.7.5.6 If Registrar operates a website for domain registration or renewal, it should state, both at the time of registration and in a clear place on its website, any fee charged for the recovery of a domain name during the edemption Grace Period.” 1 More Name, LLC (1morename.myorderbox.com) Site Loads password-protected control panel Domain Services Rotterdam BV (tellus.com) Only reseller information available Premium Registrations Sweden AB (premiumregistrations.com) Policies not posted, “member login” UltraRPM, Inc.(metapredict.com): No conspicuous terms link VentureDomains, Inc. (upc360.com) Policies not posted Ynot Domains Corp. (ynotdomains.myorderbox.com) Site Loads password-protected control panel 4. Terminated Registrars Still Selling gTLD Domains and/or Claiming Accreditation AfterGen, Inc. dba JumpingDot (jumpingdot.com) Lead Networks Domains Pvt. Ltd. (leadnetworks.com) Broadspire Inc. (broadspire.com) A detailed report with images is attached. -Garth ------------------------------------- Garth Bruen gbruen(a)knujon.com http://www.knujon.com http://www.linkedin.com/pub/4/149/724 Linkedin Group: http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1870205 Blog: http://www.circleid.com/members/3296/ Twitter: @Knujon Shop: http://www.cafepress.com/knujon Bookstore: http://astore.amazon.com/knujocom-20

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Re: [NA-Discuss] Two Years later, Dozens of Registrars Still in the Shadows
by Garth Bruen at KnujOn Dec. 8, 2010

Dec. 8, 2010

<<Yes, we are an ICANN-accredited registrar supply services to resellers.>> You just said you were a reseller <<We have always had a valid mailing address on our website.>> Where? <<We have always been ICANN compliant.>> Staff just said otherwise <<We can make our address easier for Garth to find if desired.>> It's not about me, this is about adhering to the contract Stay tuned for an announcement at noon > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Two Years later, Dozens of Registrars Still > in the Shadows > From: helen(a)dotalliance.com > Date: Tue, December 07, 2010 10:25 pm > To: "ICANN At-Large Staff" <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org>, gbruen(a)knujon.com > Cc: "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com>, > na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > Hi! > > Yes, we are an ICANN-accredited registrar supply services to resellers. > > Please feel free to ask me directly if you have any questions. > > We have always had a valid mailing address on our website. > > We have always been ICANN compliant. > > We can make our address easier for Garth to find if desired. > > Sent from my BlackBerry and all typos are its fault! > > Best regards, Helen > > www.DotAlliance.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> > > Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 12:26:32 > > To: <gbruen(a)knujon.com> > > Cc: Carlton Samuels<carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com>; <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org>; Helen<helen(a)dotalliance.com>; ICANNAt-Large Staff<staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> > > Subject: RE: [NA-Discuss] Two Years later, Dozens of Registrars Still in the Shadows > > > > Hi Garth, > > > > > > > > Compliance staff have sent the following information on DotAlliance: > > > > > > > > ** > > > > According to our records, DotAlliance is an ICANN-accredited registrar. See > > below: > > > > > > > > DotAlliance Inc. > > > > Registrar IANA ID > > > > 1249 > > > > Registrar Corporation Type > > > > Canada Corporation > > > > RAA Version > > > > 2009 > > > > Accreditation Date > > > > 2009-07-01 > > > > Accreditation Expiration Date > > > > 2014-06-30 > > > > URL > > > > www.dotalliance.com > > <https://connect.icann.org/,DanaInfo=www.dotalliance.com+> > > > > > > > > It appears that they only have their email addresses posted on their website > > but not postal address so they are deemed non-compliant. > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Seth Greene, Gisella Gruber-White, > > Marilyn Vernon, > > > > ICANN At-Large Staff > > > > > > > > From: gbruen(a)knujon.com [mailto:gbruen@knujon.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 5:50 AM > > To: Helen; ICANN At-Large Staff > > Cc: Carlton Samuels; na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Two Years later, Dozens of Registrars Still in the > > Shadows > > > > > > > > Hi Helen, > > > > > > > > We're jumping from one problem to another. According to ICANN, you are a > > Registrar: http://www.internic.net/registrars/registrar-1249.html > > > > > > > > I think ICANN staff needs to clarify this immediately. > > > > > > > > Which Registrar are you a reseller for if you are reseller? > > > > > > > > -Garth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Helen <mailto:helen@dotalliance.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 4:24 AM > > > > To: gbruen(a)knujon.com > > > > Cc: Michele Neylon :: Blacknight <mailto:michele@blacknight.ie> ; Carlton > > Samuels <mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com> > > > > Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Two Years later, Dozens of Registrars Still in the > > Shadows > > > > > > > > Hi Garth! > > As a reseller we've never felt the address needs to be on the front page in > > flashing neon lights. > > But we have had the address on our website for years.. I believe from the > > start! > > In addition, all resellers do need to sign the registrant agreement so they > > must look at it. > > http://dotalliance.com/registrationagree.html#definitions > > I will ask someone to look at putting it on the contact page if this is so > > distressing, however we are not nor have ever been in breach with the RAA. > > > > I wish I was able be in Columbia to see everyone, unfortunately an illness > > in the family prevents this or even much of a peep out of me for a while. > > Just remember ...someone owes me a beer in Frisco! :) > > > > > > > > Best, Helen > > www.DotAlliance.com > > > > > > On 06/12/2010 5:30 AM, gbruen(a)knujon.com wrote: > > > > I checked into the claims by Michele (or maybe I should address you as > > "Blacknight"?) and my suspicions were confirmed. He has completely distorted > > > > the issues and ignored the critical problem. Active Registrar, Compana, > > Directi, DOTALLIANCE, EVERYONES INTERNET, NICCO, RESELLER SERVICES, UK2 > > GROUP, VOLUSION, YNOT DOMAINS, and OWN IDENTITY have not corrected the > > problem as cited since June and ICANN compliance has not addressed the > > issue. You've glossed over this. > > > > You've also glossed over the fact that OnLineNIC was allowed to sign on to > > the 2009 RAA without first complying and has not been held to comply since, > > even through we were informed they would be held to the RAA after signing. > > > > In our original report we expressed our concern the the other Registrars > > would also be allowed to re-sign without meeting this requirement, and why > > should they have to when it's not enforced? Why would they opt for public > > disclosure when their competitors are not held by any standard? Does this > > not concern you? > > > > The RAA has become meaningless and the Internet user DESERVERS BETTER. > > > > If you purport to be a leader in this community you'll expect better too. > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" <mailto:michele@blacknight.ie> > > <michele(a)blacknight.ie> > > Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 8:31 PM > > To: "Carlton Samuels" <mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com> > > <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com> > > Cc: <mailto:na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Two Years later, Dozens of Registrars Still in the > > > > Shadows > > > > > > I checked into the claims by Knujon and my suspicions were confirmed. > > Of the registrars supposedly in breach 50% are NOT on the 2009 RAA. They > > are, therefore, NOT in breach, so I wonder how long we will have to wait > > for a corrected / updated version of this report > > > > Regards > > > > Michele > > > > Mr. Michele Neylon > > Blacknight > > http://Blacknight.tel > > > > Via iPhone so excuse typos and brevity > > > > On 4 Dec 2010, at 23:14, "Carlton Samuels" > > <mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com> <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > Garth: > > I commend you and KnuJon for keeping at this issue. It is one thing to > > be > > the slacker in a contract. But the fact that ICANN fails to embrace its > > duty of care to the community in ensuring that contracted parties live up > > to > > the terms and condition of contract remains scandalous. > > > > The low hanging fruit of an explanation would be ignorance of its > > commitment. But reason and good judgment suggests that this would be a > > stretch for explanation. Time enough for ICANN to rise to the occasion > > and > > do its duty. > > > > Carlton > > [Chair, At-Large WHOIS WG] > > > > ============================== > > Carlton A Samuels > > Mobile: 876-818-1799 > > Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround > > ============================= > > > > > > > > > > 1. Two Years Later Dozens of Registrars Still in the Shadows > > (Garth Bruen at KnujOn) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2010 11:49:35 -0700 > > From: "Garth Bruen at KnujOn" <mailto:gbruen@knujon.com> > > <gbruen(a)knujon.com> > > Subject: [NA-Discuss] Two Years Later Dozens of Registrars Still in > > the Shadows > > To: na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > Folks, > > > > In June of 2008 KnujOn reported that 70 Registrars did not have a > > business address listed in the InterNIC Registrar Directory. Only after > > reporting a month later that little had changed did ICANN perform a mass > > update of the directory. On further inspection we found many of the > > newly disclosed addresses were phantom locations, false addresses, and > > PO boxes. This lead to a push to amend the RAA and require Registrar > > location disclosure and resulted in RAA 3.16: "Registrar shall provide > > on its web site its accurate contact details including a valid email and > > mailing address." However, policy without policy enforcement is useless. > > So far ICANN compliance has failed to enforce this rule even after being > > provided with extensive evidence in June, 2010. In fact, several > > Registrars cited five months ago for not posting their address have been > > allowed to renew their accreditation without complying. > > > > The following Registrars still do not disclose their address on their > > website as required in RAA 3.16 and are in continued violation: Active > > Registrar, Inc. (activeregistrar.com) COMPANA LLC (budgetnames.com) > > Directi Internet Solutions Pvt. (publicdomainregistry.com) DOTALLIANCE > > INC (dotalliance.com) EVERYONES INTERNET LTD. (resellone.net) NICCO > > LTD. (nicco.com) RESELLER SERVICES INC. (ResellServ.com) UK2 GROUP > > LTD. (uk2group.com) VOLUSION, INC. (volusion.com) YNOT DOMAINS CORP > > (myorderbox.com) PREMIUM REGISTRATIONS SWEDEN > > (premiumregistrations.com) AB CONNECT (hosteur.com) FUNPEAS MEDIA > > VENTURES, LLC DBA DOMAINPROCESSOR.COM, DomainContext, Inc. > > (isregistrar.com) NEW GREAT DOMAINS (newgreatdomains.com) ONLINENIC > > INC. (onlinenic.com) OPEN SYSTEM LTD. (turbosite.com.br), OWN IDENTITY > > INC (ownidentity.com) PACNAMES LTD (pacnames.com) QUANTUMPAGES > > TECHNOLOGIES (ownregistrar.com) ULTRARPM INC. (metapredict.com) WEBAIR > > INTERNET DEVELOPMENT (webair.com) ZOG MEDIA, INC. (zognames.com) > > NAMEHOUSE, INC. (namehouse.net) The good news is that most of the 400 > > plus unique Registrars clearly provide their address in the home page > > footer, a CONTACT US, or ABOUT US link and several Registrars cited in > > June have since done so. Some Registrars bury the address in legal > > documents, while we do not consider this compliant ICANN provides no > > clear direction on where the address should be posted. > > > > OnLineNIC is particularly troubling since their purported public > > location is an empty lot in California with their true location being in > > China, but only privately disclosed to ICANN. OnLineNIC's own domain > > registration has been cited multiple times by KnujOn as being false. > > > > Additionally, KnujOn has discovered that nine Registrars have > > non-functional contact email addresses posted in the InterNIC directory: > > RU-CENTER, Best Bulk Register (also has a breach notice for failure to > > pay fees), Dynamic Network Services, Europe Domains, Homestead Limited, > > HTTP.NET, Namescout, Hostmaster.ca, Nameshare Inc, and Universo Online. > > Details of the email failures along with other results will be published > > in our supplemental report on Monday December 6th. > > > > RAA 3.16 is not the only unenforced contract obligation. In fact, most > > of the RAA is unenforced with the exception being the Cardinal Sin of > > failing to pay ICANN fees. KnujOn will actually detail an unprecedented > > case in which a Registrar termination was reversed after back fees were > > paid. > > > > While Registrars control the content of their websites, ICANN really is > > to blame for the failure to enforce the RAA and the anti-transparent > > practice of having one Registrar directory for public consumption with > > bad information and another internal list for their use. > > > > > > Full article: > > > > http://www.circleid.com/posts/20101203_two_years_later_dozens_of_registrars_ > > still_in_the_shadows/ > > > > -Garth > > > > ------------------------------------- > > Garth Bruen > > gbruen(a)knujon.com > > http://www.knujon.com > > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/4/149/724 > > Linkedin Group: http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1870205 > > Blog: http://www.circleid.com/members/3296/ > > Twitter: @Knujon > > Shop: http://www.cafepress.com/knujon > > Bookstore: http://astore.amazon.com/knujocom-20 > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ > > NA-Discuss mailing list > > NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > > > > Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org > > ------ > > > > ------ > > NA-Discuss mailing list > > NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > > > > Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org > > ------ > > > > > > ------ > > NA-Discuss mailing list > > NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > > > > Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org > > ------

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Milton Mueller: Networks and States: The Global Politics of Internet Governance – NYU 12/14
by Joly MacFie Dec. 8, 2010

Dec. 8, 2010

The Internet Society's New York Chapter (ISOC-NY) is delighted to present Milton Mueller’s first full exposition of his new book Networks and States: The Global Politics of Internet Governance at NYU on Tuesday December 14 2010. Prof. Mueller is a co-founder of ICANN’s NonCommercial User’s Constituency and a renowned cyberlibertarian. His 2002 book Ruling the Roothas long been the definitive work on governance. We are excited to hear details of what, in his mind, has changed in the last 8 years. This event is open to the public and will be webcast live. What: Networks and States: The Global Politics of Internet Governance When: Tuesday December 14 2010 : 7-9pm Where: Rm 317, Warren Weaver Hall NYU, 251 Mercer St NYC (& W. 4 St) Who: Public welcome. No RSVP needed. Photo ID required. Webcast: http://www.livestream.com/isocny Hashtag: #isocny Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=175907139093951 URL: http://www.isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=1592 Book: http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?ttype=2&tid=12265 Milton Mueller is a professor at the School of Information Studies at Syracuse University, where he teaches courses on information and communication policy and telecommunication management.He is also XS4All Professor at Delft University of Technology, the Netherlands His research focuses on property rights, institutions and global governance in communication and information industries. Currently, he is doing research on the legal and regulatory responsibilities of Internet service providers, Internet Protocol addressing policy, the policy implications of Deep Packet Inspection technology and the security governance practices of network operators. Mueller was one of the founders of the Internet Governance Project, an alliance of scholars in action around global Internet policy issues. As co-founder of the Noncommercial Users Constituency, he has played a leading role in organizing and mobilizing public interest groups in ICANN. Mueller is on the Advisory Council of Public Interest Registry (.org). -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast Secretary - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org ---------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [NA-Discuss] Two Years later, Dozens of Registrars Still in the Shadows
by Garth Bruen at KnujOn Dec. 7, 2010

Dec. 7, 2010

THANK YOU! > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: RE: [NA-Discuss] Two Years later, Dozens of Registrars Still > in the Shadows > From: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> > Date: Tue, December 07, 2010 3:26 pm > To: <gbruen(a)knujon.com> > Cc: Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com>, > <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Helen <helen(a)dotalliance.com>, > ICANN At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> > > > Hi Garth, > > > > Compliance staff have sent the following information on DotAlliance: > > > > ** > > According to our records, DotAlliance is an ICANN-accredited registrar. See > below: > > > > DotAlliance Inc. > > Registrar IANA ID > > 1249 > > Registrar Corporation Type > > Canada Corporation > > RAA Version > > 2009 > > Accreditation Date > > 2009-07-01 > > Accreditation Expiration Date > > 2014-06-30 > > URL > > www.dotalliance.com > <https://connect.icann.org/,DanaInfo=www.dotalliance.com+> > > > > It appears that they only have their email addresses posted on their website > but not postal address so they are deemed non-compliant. > > > > ** > > > > Regards, > > Heidi Ullrich, Matthias Langenegger, Seth Greene, Gisella Gruber-White, > Marilyn Vernon, > > ICANN At-Large Staff > > > > From: gbruen(a)knujon.com [mailto:gbruen@knujon.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 5:50 AM > To: Helen; ICANN At-Large Staff > Cc: Carlton Samuels; na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Two Years later, Dozens of Registrars Still in the > Shadows > > > > Hi Helen, > > > > We're jumping from one problem to another. According to ICANN, you are a > Registrar: http://www.internic.net/registrars/registrar-1249.html > > > > I think ICANN staff needs to clarify this immediately. > > > > Which Registrar are you a reseller for if you are reseller? > > > > -Garth > > > > > > > > From: Helen <mailto:helen@dotalliance.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 4:24 AM > > To: gbruen(a)knujon.com > > Cc: Michele Neylon :: Blacknight <mailto:michele@blacknight.ie> ; Carlton > Samuels <mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Two Years later, Dozens of Registrars Still in the > Shadows > > > > Hi Garth! > As a reseller we've never felt the address needs to be on the front page in > flashing neon lights. > But we have had the address on our website for years.. I believe from the > start! > In addition, all resellers do need to sign the registrant agreement so they > must look at it. > http://dotalliance.com/registrationagree.html#definitions > I will ask someone to look at putting it on the contact page if this is so > distressing, however we are not nor have ever been in breach with the RAA. > > I wish I was able be in Columbia to see everyone, unfortunately an illness > in the family prevents this or even much of a peep out of me for a while. > Just remember ...someone owes me a beer in Frisco! :) > > > > Best, Helen > www.DotAlliance.com > > > On 06/12/2010 5:30 AM, gbruen(a)knujon.com wrote: > > I checked into the claims by Michele (or maybe I should address you as > "Blacknight"?) and my suspicions were confirmed. He has completely distorted > > the issues and ignored the critical problem. Active Registrar, Compana, > Directi, DOTALLIANCE, EVERYONES INTERNET, NICCO, RESELLER SERVICES, UK2 > GROUP, VOLUSION, YNOT DOMAINS, and OWN IDENTITY have not corrected the > problem as cited since June and ICANN compliance has not addressed the > issue. You've glossed over this. > > You've also glossed over the fact that OnLineNIC was allowed to sign on to > the 2009 RAA without first complying and has not been held to comply since, > even through we were informed they would be held to the RAA after signing. > > In our original report we expressed our concern the the other Registrars > would also be allowed to re-sign without meeting this requirement, and why > should they have to when it's not enforced? Why would they opt for public > disclosure when their competitors are not held by any standard? Does this > not concern you? > > The RAA has become meaningless and the Internet user DESERVERS BETTER. > > If you purport to be a leader in this community you'll expect better too. > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" <mailto:michele@blacknight.ie> > <michele(a)blacknight.ie> > Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 8:31 PM > To: "Carlton Samuels" <mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com> > <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com> > Cc: <mailto:na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Two Years later, Dozens of Registrars Still in the > > Shadows > > > I checked into the claims by Knujon and my suspicions were confirmed. > Of the registrars supposedly in breach 50% are NOT on the 2009 RAA. They > are, therefore, NOT in breach, so I wonder how long we will have to wait > for a corrected / updated version of this report > > Regards > > Michele > > Mr. Michele Neylon > Blacknight > http://Blacknight.tel > > Via iPhone so excuse typos and brevity > > On 4 Dec 2010, at 23:14, "Carlton Samuels" > <mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com> <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Garth: > I commend you and KnuJon for keeping at this issue. It is one thing to > be > the slacker in a contract. But the fact that ICANN fails to embrace its > duty of care to the community in ensuring that contracted parties live up > to > the terms and condition of contract remains scandalous. > > The low hanging fruit of an explanation would be ignorance of its > commitment. But reason and good judgment suggests that this would be a > stretch for explanation. Time enough for ICANN to rise to the occasion > and > do its duty. > > Carlton > [Chair, At-Large WHOIS WG] > > ============================== > Carlton A Samuels > Mobile: 876-818-1799 > Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround > ============================= > > > > > 1. Two Years Later Dozens of Registrars Still in the Shadows > (Garth Bruen at KnujOn) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2010 11:49:35 -0700 > From: "Garth Bruen at KnujOn" <mailto:gbruen@knujon.com> > <gbruen(a)knujon.com> > Subject: [NA-Discuss] Two Years Later Dozens of Registrars Still in > the Shadows > To: na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Folks, > > In June of 2008 KnujOn reported that 70 Registrars did not have a > business address listed in the InterNIC Registrar Directory. Only after > reporting a month later that little had changed did ICANN perform a mass > update of the directory. On further inspection we found many of the > newly disclosed addresses were phantom locations, false addresses, and > PO boxes. This lead to a push to amend the RAA and require Registrar > location disclosure and resulted in RAA 3.16: "Registrar shall provide > on its web site its accurate contact details including a valid email and > mailing address." However, policy without policy enforcement is useless. > So far ICANN compliance has failed to enforce this rule even after being > provided with extensive evidence in June, 2010. In fact, several > Registrars cited five months ago for not posting their address have been > allowed to renew their accreditation without complying. > > The following Registrars still do not disclose their address on their > website as required in RAA 3.16 and are in continued violation: Active > Registrar, Inc. (activeregistrar.com) COMPANA LLC (budgetnames.com) > Directi Internet Solutions Pvt. (publicdomainregistry.com) DOTALLIANCE > INC (dotalliance.com) EVERYONES INTERNET LTD. (resellone.net) NICCO > LTD. (nicco.com) RESELLER SERVICES INC. (ResellServ.com) UK2 GROUP > LTD. (uk2group.com) VOLUSION, INC. (volusion.com) YNOT DOMAINS CORP > (myorderbox.com) PREMIUM REGISTRATIONS SWEDEN > (premiumregistrations.com) AB CONNECT (hosteur.com) FUNPEAS MEDIA > VENTURES, LLC DBA DOMAINPROCESSOR.COM, DomainContext, Inc. > (isregistrar.com) NEW GREAT DOMAINS (newgreatdomains.com) ONLINENIC > INC. (onlinenic.com) OPEN SYSTEM LTD. (turbosite.com.br), OWN IDENTITY > INC (ownidentity.com) PACNAMES LTD (pacnames.com) QUANTUMPAGES > TECHNOLOGIES (ownregistrar.com) ULTRARPM INC. (metapredict.com) WEBAIR > INTERNET DEVELOPMENT (webair.com) ZOG MEDIA, INC. (zognames.com) > NAMEHOUSE, INC. (namehouse.net) The good news is that most of the 400 > plus unique Registrars clearly provide their address in the home page > footer, a CONTACT US, or ABOUT US link and several Registrars cited in > June have since done so. Some Registrars bury the address in legal > documents, while we do not consider this compliant ICANN provides no > clear direction on where the address should be posted. > > OnLineNIC is particularly troubling since their purported public > location is an empty lot in California with their true location being in > China, but only privately disclosed to ICANN. OnLineNIC's own domain > registration has been cited multiple times by KnujOn as being false. > > Additionally, KnujOn has discovered that nine Registrars have > non-functional contact email addresses posted in the InterNIC directory: > RU-CENTER, Best Bulk Register (also has a breach notice for failure to > pay fees), Dynamic Network Services, Europe Domains, Homestead Limited, > HTTP.NET, Namescout, Hostmaster.ca, Nameshare Inc, and Universo Online. > Details of the email failures along with other results will be published > in our supplemental report on Monday December 6th. > > RAA 3.16 is not the only unenforced contract obligation. In fact, most > of the RAA is unenforced with the exception being the Cardinal Sin of > failing to pay ICANN fees. KnujOn will actually detail an unprecedented > case in which a Registrar termination was reversed after back fees were > paid. > > While Registrars control the content of their websites, ICANN really is > to blame for the failure to enforce the RAA and the anti-transparent > practice of having one Registrar directory for public consumption with > bad information and another internal list for their use. > > > Full article: > > http://www.circleid.com/posts/20101203_two_years_later_dozens_of_registrars_ > still_in_the_shadows/ > > -Garth > > ------------------------------------- > Garth Bruen > gbruen(a)knujon.com > http://www.knujon.com > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/4/149/724 > Linkedin Group: http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1870205 > Blog: http://www.circleid.com/members/3296/ > Twitter: @Knujon > Shop: http://www.cafepress.com/knujon > Bookstore: http://astore.amazon.com/knujocom-20 > > > > > > ------ > NA-Discuss mailing list > NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > > Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org > ------ > > ------ > NA-Discuss mailing list > NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > > Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org > ------ > > > ------ > NA-Discuss mailing list > NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > > Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org > ------

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Re: [NA-Discuss] Two Years later, Dozens of Registrars Still in the Shadows
by gbruen＠knujon.com Dec. 7, 2010

Dec. 7, 2010

Hi Helen, We're jumping from one problem to another. According to ICANN, you are a Registrar: http://www.internic.net/registrars/registrar-1249.html I think ICANN staff needs to clarify this immediately. Which Registrar are you a reseller for if you are reseller? -Garth From: Helen Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 4:24 AM To: gbruen(a)knujon.com Cc: Michele Neylon :: Blacknight ; Carlton Samuels Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Two Years later, Dozens of Registrars Still in the Shadows Hi Garth! As a reseller we've never felt the address needs to be on the front page in flashing neon lights. But we have had the address on our website for years.. I believe from the start! In addition, all resellers do need to sign the registrant agreement so they must look at it. http://dotalliance.com/registrationagree.html#definitions I will ask someone to look at putting it on the contact page if this is so distressing, however we are not nor have ever been in breach with the RAA. I wish I was able be in Columbia to see everyone, unfortunately an illness in the family prevents this or even much of a peep out of me for a while. Just remember ...someone owes me a beer in Frisco! :) Best, Helen www.DotAlliance.com On 06/12/2010 5:30 AM, gbruen(a)knujon.com wrote: I checked into the claims by Michele (or maybe I should address you as "Blacknight"?) and my suspicions were confirmed. He has completely distorted the issues and ignored the critical problem. Active Registrar, Compana, Directi, DOTALLIANCE, EVERYONES INTERNET, NICCO, RESELLER SERVICES, UK2 GROUP, VOLUSION, YNOT DOMAINS, and OWN IDENTITY have not corrected the problem as cited since June and ICANN compliance has not addressed the issue. You've glossed over this. You've also glossed over the fact that OnLineNIC was allowed to sign on to the 2009 RAA without first complying and has not been held to comply since, even through we were informed they would be held to the RAA after signing. In our original report we expressed our concern the the other Registrars would also be allowed to re-sign without meeting this requirement, and why should they have to when it's not enforced? Why would they opt for public disclosure when their competitors are not held by any standard? Does this not concern you? The RAA has become meaningless and the Internet user DESERVERS BETTER. If you purport to be a leader in this community you'll expect better too. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" <michele(a)blacknight.ie> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 8:31 PM To: "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com> Cc: <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Two Years later, Dozens of Registrars Still in the Shadows I checked into the claims by Knujon and my suspicions were confirmed. Of the registrars supposedly in breach 50% are NOT on the 2009 RAA. They are, therefore, NOT in breach, so I wonder how long we will have to wait for a corrected / updated version of this report Regards Michele Mr. Michele Neylon Blacknight http://Blacknight.tel Via iPhone so excuse typos and brevity On 4 Dec 2010, at 23:14, "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com> wrote: Garth: I commend you and KnuJon for keeping at this issue. It is one thing to be the slacker in a contract. But the fact that ICANN fails to embrace its duty of care to the community in ensuring that contracted parties live up to the terms and condition of contract remains scandalous. The low hanging fruit of an explanation would be ignorance of its commitment. But reason and good judgment suggests that this would be a stretch for explanation. Time enough for ICANN to rise to the occasion and do its duty. Carlton [Chair, At-Large WHOIS WG] ============================== Carlton A Samuels Mobile: 876-818-1799 Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround ============================= 1. Two Years Later Dozens of Registrars Still in the Shadows (Garth Bruen at KnujOn) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2010 11:49:35 -0700 From: "Garth Bruen at KnujOn" <gbruen(a)knujon.com> Subject: [NA-Discuss] Two Years Later Dozens of Registrars Still in the Shadows To: na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Folks, In June of 2008 KnujOn reported that 70 Registrars did not have a business address listed in the InterNIC Registrar Directory. Only after reporting a month later that little had changed did ICANN perform a mass update of the directory. On further inspection we found many of the newly disclosed addresses were phantom locations, false addresses, and PO boxes. This lead to a push to amend the RAA and require Registrar location disclosure and resulted in RAA 3.16: "Registrar shall provide on its web site its accurate contact details including a valid email and mailing address." However, policy without policy enforcement is useless. So far ICANN compliance has failed to enforce this rule even after being provided with extensive evidence in June, 2010. In fact, several Registrars cited five months ago for not posting their address have been allowed to renew their accreditation without complying. The following Registrars still do not disclose their address on their website as required in RAA 3.16 and are in continued violation: Active Registrar, Inc. (activeregistrar.com) COMPANA LLC (budgetnames.com) Directi Internet Solutions Pvt. (publicdomainregistry.com) DOTALLIANCE INC (dotalliance.com) EVERYONES INTERNET LTD. (resellone.net) NICCO LTD. (nicco.com) RESELLER SERVICES INC. (ResellServ.com) UK2 GROUP LTD. (uk2group.com) VOLUSION, INC. (volusion.com) YNOT DOMAINS CORP (myorderbox.com) PREMIUM REGISTRATIONS SWEDEN (premiumregistrations.com) AB CONNECT (hosteur.com) FUNPEAS MEDIA VENTURES, LLC DBA DOMAINPROCESSOR.COM, DomainContext, Inc. (isregistrar.com) NEW GREAT DOMAINS (newgreatdomains.com) ONLINENIC INC. (onlinenic.com) OPEN SYSTEM LTD. (turbosite.com.br), OWN IDENTITY INC (ownidentity.com) PACNAMES LTD (pacnames.com) QUANTUMPAGES TECHNOLOGIES (ownregistrar.com) ULTRARPM INC. (metapredict.com) WEBAIR INTERNET DEVELOPMENT (webair.com) ZOG MEDIA, INC. (zognames.com) NAMEHOUSE, INC. (namehouse.net) The good news is that most of the 400 plus unique Registrars clearly provide their address in the home page footer, a CONTACT US, or ABOUT US link and several Registrars cited in June have since done so. Some Registrars bury the address in legal documents, while we do not consider this compliant ICANN provides no clear direction on where the address should be posted. OnLineNIC is particularly troubling since their purported public location is an empty lot in California with their true location being in China, but only privately disclosed to ICANN. OnLineNIC's own domain registration has been cited multiple times by KnujOn as being false. Additionally, KnujOn has discovered that nine Registrars have non-functional contact email addresses posted in the InterNIC directory: RU-CENTER, Best Bulk Register (also has a breach notice for failure to pay fees), Dynamic Network Services, Europe Domains, Homestead Limited, HTTP.NET, Namescout, Hostmaster.ca, Nameshare Inc, and Universo Online. Details of the email failures along with other results will be published in our supplemental report on Monday December 6th. RAA 3.16 is not the only unenforced contract obligation. In fact, most of the RAA is unenforced with the exception being the Cardinal Sin of failing to pay ICANN fees. KnujOn will actually detail an unprecedented case in which a Registrar termination was reversed after back fees were paid. While Registrars control the content of their websites, ICANN really is to blame for the failure to enforce the RAA and the anti-transparent practice of having one Registrar directory for public consumption with bad information and another internal list for their use. Full article: http://www.circleid.com/posts/20101203_two_years_later_dozens_of_registrars… -Garth ------------------------------------- Garth Bruen gbruen(a)knujon.com http://www.knujon.com http://www.linkedin.com/pub/4/149/724 Linkedin Group: http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1870205 Blog: http://www.circleid.com/members/3296/ Twitter: @Knujon Shop: http://www.cafepress.com/knujon Bookstore: http://astore.amazon.com/knujocom-20 ------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------ ------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------ ------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org ------

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So public disclosure is a laughing matter
by Garth Bruen at KnujOn Dec. 7, 2010

Dec. 7, 2010

Carlton, Was it Stacy or Pam? The irony is lost on them. The point is that is makes no difference between RAA 2001 and RAA 2009, "NONE" of the Registrars are in violation because the rules are not enforced. The RAA in any version effectively does not exist. OnLineNIC was allowed to re-up without complying so there is no clearly distinction between the two, RAA amendments are just for show, disclosure to the Internet consumer is a laughing matter. Will it be the same for the law enforcement amendments? The joke will be them as we watch and see the rest signed on to the 2009 RAA without complying. -Garth > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Two Years later, Dozens of Registrars Still > in the Shadows > From: Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com> > Date: Tue, December 07, 2010 11:42 am > To: Garth Bruen at KnujOn <gbruen(a)knujon.com> > Cc: Beau Brendler <beaubrendler(a)earthlink.net>, > na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > Garth: > FYI, I hope you were listening the the ICANN Compliance lady. Essentially, > the argument is you're only nearly half-right in certain respects since only > 12 of the outfits you fingered are in breach by virtue of signing the 2009 > RAA!!! > > [Well, blow me down with a feather!! I'm just gobsmacked that anyone yet > sentient in 2001 would've concluded a contract with entities whose business > models are Cyb-enabled and powered entirely on line and forgot to ask them > for an address record/label that embraced the pre-eminent communications > modality in the Cyb world!!] > > Of course that is not the way she said it; classic propaganda back-in - she > trumpeted the number NOT in breach that was listed according to the 2009 RAA > compliance criteria. That way she subtly invited those in the room and > following to raise the trust relationship. > > In closing, she belly-ached - prettily again! - about the 'sarcasm' flowing > her way. Slick, this one....and bears watching. > > Carlton > > ============================== > Carlton A Samuels > Mobile: 876-818-1799 > Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround > ============================= > > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Garth Bruen at KnujOn <gbruen(a)knujon.com>wrote: > > > Beau, > > > > If true that would be in line with other statements made Mr. Pritz. This > > is why David Giza was fired, right? He was actually going to follow-up > > on complaints and bring the compliance process cycle out for public > > view. Now, a clear message has been sent to ICANN staff: don't enforce > > the rules and don't talk about our procedures. At the Mexico meeting the > > compliance auditor pulled me aside and said he was concerned about > > several Registrars and might want my help. He's gone too. > > > > When I asked Mr. Pritz on an Internet Governance Forum conference call > > what happened to ICANN compliance he waved off my questions and said > > there was a vigorous search going on to fill the three vacant compliance > > positions. But where are they? It's been six months since Giza was > > removed. > > > > Yes, there are more breach notices: for failure to pay fees. > > > > Compliance is not working and I suspect this is intentional. > > > > -Garth > > > > > > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > > Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Two Years later, Dozens of Registrars Still > > > in the Shadows > > > From: Beau Brendler <beaubrendler(a)earthlink.net> > > > Date: Mon, December 06, 2010 9:35 am > > > To: gbruen(a)knujon.com, "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" > > > <michele(a)blacknight.ie>, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com> > > > Cc: na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > > > > > > I found Kurt Pritz's reply to my question on compliance at yesterday's > > presentation in Cartagena rather revealing (and that's assuming I heard it > > correctly, we will need to listen to the tape). But I am fairly sure I heard > > him say, in response to my statement that a number of registrars remain out > > of compliance with the RAA and that some of us in the community don't really > > think ICANN believes it can enforce contracts, that "enforcement was an > > interesting question with several answers." (That's not an exact quote, but > > it was something similarly mysterious and vague). That sounds to me, to > > quote Carlton, that all animals are created equal but some more than others. > > Is OnlineNIC one of them? I have plenty of evidence, independent from > > Knujon, that OnlineNIC is out of compliance with the RAA, and that they were > > allowed to re-up, and continue their merry way. > > > > > > I was also concerned that Kurt seemed to characterize compliance progress > > as a factor of the number of breach notices steadily increasing. The > > meaningful statistic would be: How many of those breach notices are > > resolved? And if the system was really working, breach notices should be > > going down, not up. It's great that ICANN's strategic plan mentions security > > and contract compliance as goals, but those are going to be tough to achieve > > with no functioning compliance department. > > > > > > Repeatedly we have heard the registrar community voice its resistance to > > oversight and "regulation." But the registrar community should not be trying > > to shoot the messenger here; it should be considering how to self-police its > > ranks. If ICANN is not going to do its job, let's dismantle ICANN and take > > user and consumer concerns to the press, to international law enforcement > > bodies, and see if we can make better progress. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > >From: gbruen(a)knujon.com > > > >Sent: Dec 6, 2010 8:30 AM > > > >To: "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" <michele(a)blacknight.ie>, Carlton > > Samuels <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com> > > > >Cc: na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > >Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Two Years later, Dozens of Registrars Still > > in the Shadows > > > > > > > >I checked into the claims by Michele (or maybe I should address you as > > > >"Blacknight"?) and my suspicions were confirmed. He has completely > > distorted > > > >the issues and ignored the critical problem. Active Registrar, Compana, > > > >Directi, DOTALLIANCE, EVERYONES INTERNET, NICCO, RESELLER SERVICES, UK2 > > > >GROUP, VOLUSION, YNOT DOMAINS, and OWN IDENTITY have not corrected the > > > >problem as cited since June and ICANN compliance has not addressed the > > > >issue. You've glossed over this. > > > > > > > >You've also glossed over the fact that OnLineNIC was allowed to sign on > > to > > > >the 2009 RAA without first complying and has not been held to comply > > since, > > > >even through we were informed they would be held to the RAA after > > signing. > > > > > > > >In our original report we expressed our concern the the other Registrars > > > >would also be allowed to re-sign without meeting this requirement, and > > why > > > >should they have to when it's not enforced? Why would they opt for > > public > > > >disclosure when their competitors are not held by any standard? Does > > this > > > >not concern you? > > > > > > > >The RAA has become meaningless and the Internet user DESERVERS BETTER. > > > > > > > >If you purport to be a leader in this community you'll expect better > > too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------- > > > >From: "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" <michele(a)blacknight.ie> > > > >Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 8:31 PM > > > >To: "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com> > > > >Cc: <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > > >Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Two Years later, Dozens of Registrars Still in > > the > > > >Shadows > > > > > > > >> I checked into the claims by Knujon and my suspicions were confirmed. > > > >> Of the registrars supposedly in breach 50% are NOT on the 2009 RAA. > > They > > > >> are, therefore, NOT in breach, so I wonder how long we will have to > > wait > > > >> for a corrected / updated version of this report > > > >> > > > >> Regards > > > >> > > > >> Michele > > > >> > > > >> Mr. Michele Neylon > > > >> Blacknight > > > >> http://Blacknight.tel > > > >> > > > >> Via iPhone so excuse typos and brevity > > > >> > > > >> On 4 Dec 2010, at 23:14, "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Garth: > > > >>> I commend you and KnuJon for keeping at this issue. It is one thing > > to > > > >>> be > > > >>> the slacker in a contract. But the fact that ICANN fails to embrace > > its > > > >>> duty of care to the community in ensuring that contracted parties > > live up > > > >>> to > > > >>> the terms and condition of contract remains scandalous. > > > >>> > > > >>> The low hanging fruit of an explanation would be ignorance of its > > > >>> commitment. But reason and good judgment suggests that this would be > > a > > > >>> stretch for explanation. Time enough for ICANN to rise to the > > occasion > > > >>> and > > > >>> do its duty. > > > >>> > > > >>> Carlton > > > >>> [Chair, At-Large WHOIS WG] > > > >>> > > > >>> ============================== > > > >>> Carlton A Samuels > > > >>> Mobile: 876-818-1799 > > > >>> Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround > > > >>> ============================= > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> 1. Two Years Later Dozens of Registrars Still in the > > Shadows > > > >>>> (Garth Bruen at KnujOn) > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Message: 1 > > > >>>> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2010 11:49:35 -0700 > > > >>>> From: "Garth Bruen at KnujOn" <gbruen(a)knujon.com> > > > >>>> Subject: [NA-Discuss] Two Years Later Dozens of Registrars Still in > > > >>>> the Shadows > > > >>>> To: na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Folks, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> In June of 2008 KnujOn reported that 70 Registrars did not have a > > > >>>> business address listed in the InterNIC Registrar Directory. Only > > after > > > >>>> reporting a month later that little had changed did ICANN perform a > > mass > > > >>>> update of the directory. On further inspection we found many of the > > > >>>> newly disclosed addresses were phantom locations, false addresses, > > and > > > >>>> PO boxes. This lead to a push to amend the RAA and require Registrar > > > >>>> location disclosure and resulted in RAA 3.16: "Registrar shall > > provide > > > >>>> on its web site its accurate contact details including a valid email > > and > > > >>>> mailing address." However, policy without policy enforcement is > > useless. > > > >>>> So far ICANN compliance has failed to enforce this rule even after > > being > > > >>>> provided with extensive evidence in June, 2010. In fact, several > > > >>>> Registrars cited five months ago for not posting their address have > > been > > > >>>> allowed to renew their accreditation without complying. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> The following Registrars still do not disclose their address on > > their > > > >>>> website as required in RAA 3.16 and are in continued violation: > > Active > > > >>>> Registrar, Inc. (activeregistrar.com) COMPANA LLC (budgetnames.com > > ), > > > >>>> Directi Internet Solutions Pvt. (publicdomainregistry.com) > > DOTALLIANCE > > > >>>> INC (dotalliance.com) EVERYONES INTERNET LTD. (resellone.net) > > NICCO > > > >>>> LTD. (nicco.com) RESELLER SERVICES INC. (ResellServ.com) UK2 > > GROUP > > > >>>> LTD. (uk2group.com) VOLUSION, INC. (volusion.com) YNOT DOMAINS > > CORP > > > >>>> (myorderbox.com) PREMIUM REGISTRATIONS SWEDEN > > > >>>> (premiumregistrations.com) AB CONNECT (hosteur.com) FUNPEAS MEDIA > > > >>>> VENTURES, LLC DBA DOMAINPROCESSOR.COM, DomainContext, Inc. > > > >>>> (isregistrar.com) NEW GREAT DOMAINS (newgreatdomains.com) > > ONLINENIC > > > >>>> INC. (onlinenic.com) OPEN SYSTEM LTD. (turbosite.com.br), OWN > > IDENTITY > > > >>>> INC (ownidentity.com) PACNAMES LTD (pacnames.com) QUANTUMPAGES > > > >>>> TECHNOLOGIES (ownregistrar.com) ULTRARPM INC. (metapredict.com) > > WEBAIR > > > >>>> INTERNET DEVELOPMENT (webair.com) ZOG MEDIA, INC. (zognames.com) > > > >>>> NAMEHOUSE, INC. (namehouse.net) The good news is that most of the > > 400 > > > >>>> plus unique Registrars clearly provide their address in the home > > page > > > >>>> footer, a CONTACT US, or ABOUT US link and several Registrars cited > > in > > > >>>> June have since done so. Some Registrars bury the address in legal > > > >>>> documents, while we do not consider this compliant ICANN provides no > > > >>>> clear direction on where the address should be posted. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> OnLineNIC is particularly troubling since their purported public > > > >>>> location is an empty lot in California with their true location > > being in > > > >>>> China, but only privately disclosed to ICANN. OnLineNIC's own domain > > > >>>> registration has been cited multiple times by KnujOn as being false. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Additionally, KnujOn has discovered that nine Registrars have > > > >>>> non-functional contact email addresses posted in the InterNIC > > directory: > > > >>>> RU-CENTER, Best Bulk Register (also has a breach notice for failure > > to > > > >>>> pay fees), Dynamic Network Services, Europe Domains, Homestead > > Limited, > > > >>>> HTTP.NET, Namescout, Hostmaster.ca, Nameshare Inc, and Universo > > Online. > > > >>>> Details of the email failures along with other results will be > > published > > > >>>> in our supplemental report on Monday December 6th. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> RAA 3.16 is not the only unenforced contract obligation. In fact, > > most > > > >>>> of the RAA is unenforced with the exception being the Cardinal Sin > > of > > > >>>> failing to pay ICANN fees. KnujOn will actually detail an > > unprecedented > > > >>>> case in which a Registrar termination was reversed after back fees > > were > > > >>>> paid. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> While Registrars control the content of their websites, ICANN really > > is > > > >>>> to blame for the failure to enforce the RAA and the anti-transparent > > > >>>> practice of having one Registrar directory for public consumption > > with > > > >>>> bad information and another internal list for their use. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Full article: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > http://www.circleid.com/posts/20101203_two_years_later_dozens_of_registrars… > > > >>>> > > > >>>> -Garth > > > >>>> > > > >>>> ------------------------------------- > > > >>>> Garth Bruen > > > >>>> gbruen(a)knujon.com > > > >>>> http://www.knujon.com > > > >>>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/4/149/724 > > > >>>> Linkedin Group: http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=1870205 > > > >>>> Blog: http://www.circleid.com/members/3296/ > > > >>>> Twitter: @Knujon > > > >>>> Shop: http://www.cafepress.com/knujon > > > >>>> Bookstore: http://astore.amazon.com/knujocom-20 > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> ------ > > > >>> NA-Discuss mailing list > > > >>> NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > >>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > > > >>> > > > >>> Visit the NARALO on line at http://www.naralo.org > > > >>> ------ > > > >> > > > >> ------ > > > >> NA-Discuss mailing list > > > >> NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > > > >> > > > >> Visit the NARALO on line at http://www.naralo.org > > > >> ------ > > > >> > > > >------ > > > >NA-Discuss mailing list > > > >NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > > > > > > > >Visit the NARALO on line at http://www.naralo.org > > > >------ > > > >

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