November 2011 - Rt4-whois - lists.icann.org

Re: [Rt4-whois] ACTION REQUIRED: What do I need to do now? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
by James M. Bladel Nov. 30, 2011

Nov. 30, 2011

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Re: [Rt4-whois] NOTE: Draft report + appendices document - 29 November
by Alice Jansen Nov. 29, 2011

Nov. 29, 2011

Hi Seth! The two sets of recommendations are as follows: Privacy Services provide the Registrant's Name, but the Privacy Service's contact information. The Privacy Service passes on non-spam messages to the Registrant, particularly legal notices, acting as a type of “registered agent.” Proxy Services register the domain name and license it to another for use. Privacy services limit certain user details from WHOIS by offering alternate contact information and mail forwarding services, while not actually shielding the user’s identity. Proxy services have a third-party register domain names on the user’s behalf and then license the use of the domain name so that a third-party’s contact information (and not the licensee’s) is published in WHOIS. In the report: P.44-45 P.82 Thanks, Kind regards Alice -- Alice Jansen Assistant, Organizational Reviews 6 Rond Point Schuman, Bt.5 B-1040 Brussels Belgium Direct dial: +32 2 234 78 64 Mobile: +32 4 73 31 76 56 Skype: alice_jansen_icann From: Seth M Reiss <seth.reiss(a)lex-ip.com<mailto:seth.reiss@lex-ip.com>> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 10:34:00 -0800 To: Alice Jansen <alice.jansen(a)icann.org<mailto:alice.jansen@icann.org>>, "rt4-whois(a)icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org>" <rt4-whois(a)icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org>> Subject: RE: [Rt4-whois] NOTE: Draft report + appendices document - 29 November Alice Would it be possible to break out the 2 sets of privacy/proxy definitions with note in an email to the Team for feedback? I am not sure I am finding them in the document in the way you have described. Thanks. Seth From: rt4-whois-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Alice Jansen Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 4:19 AM To: rt4-whois(a)icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org> Subject: [Rt4-whois] NOTE: Draft report + appendices document - 29 November Members, Note that the latest version of the draft report contains/reflects: * Susan's new set of comments (in addition to those incorporated yesterday); * Lutz' recommendation on a centralized WHOIS; * The 2 sets of privacy/proxy definitions along with a note asking you to decide which set you would like to adopt; * The prior-to-September Law Enforcement definition (with reference to an off-list discussion). This was added in parallel to the definition currently in the report. Note that the appendices document now includes: * Susan's example of a WHOIS look-up. Thanks, Kind regards Alice From: Alice Jansen <alice.jansen(a)icann.org<mailto:alice.jansen@icann.org>> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 06:00:16 -0800 To: "rt4-whois(a)icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org>" <rt4-whois(a)icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org>> Subject: Draft report + appendices document - 29 November Dear Review Team Members, Please find attached the latest versions of the draft report and appendices document. Also available at: https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreviewprivate/Draft+report Thanks, Kind regards Alice -- Alice Jansen Assistant, Organizational Reviews 6 Rond Point Schuman, Bt.5 B-1040 Brussels Belgium Direct dial: +32 2 234 78 64 Mobile: +32 4 73 31 76 56 Skype: alice_jansen_icann

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Re: [Rt4-whois] Consumer Trust Research Summary
by Emily Taylor Nov. 29, 2011

Nov. 29, 2011

Dear Lynn, Seth, and Susan Thank you. This draft is really coming together. Following on from an unrelated thread started by you, Lynn, and supported by Michael, I'd like to suggest that we take a close look at whether some of the detail (on methodology; countries surveyed; etc) from these pages might sit better in an appendix, to improve the flow of the whole report. We need the reasons why we did the study; that it was multi-national and multi-lingual, that it comprised both qual and quant. Then the findings, which are very economically written and lead in well to the recommendations. What do you think? Kind regards Emily On 29 November 2011 18:14, Seth M Reiss <seth.reiss(a)lex-ip.com> wrote: > Thank you Lynn.**** > > ** ** > > *From:* rt4-whois-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org] *On > Behalf Of *lynn(a)goodsecurityconsulting.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:23 AM > *To:* Emily Taylor > *Cc:* rt4-whois(a)icann.org > *Subject:* [Rt4-whois] Consumer Trust Research Summary**** > > ** ** > > Seth, Susan and I have been working via email due to our time zone > differences.**** > > I am waiting for Seth to confirm but believe we have come to an agreement > on our revisions and edits.**** > > **** > > Attached is our clean updated draft and our most recent marked up copy > with comments.**** > > **** > > Since we are so close to the deadline, I am taking the liberty of sending > this forward now.**** > > Lynn**** > > _______________________________________________ > Rt4-whois mailing list > Rt4-whois(a)icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois > > -- * * 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK t: +44 (0)1865 582 811 • m: +44 (0)7540 049 322 emily(a)emilytaylor.eu *www.etlaw.co.uk* Emily Taylor Consultancy Limited is a company registered in England and Wales No. 730471. VAT No. 114487713.

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Gap analysis - Chapters 7 and 8
by Emily Taylor Nov. 29, 2011

Nov. 29, 2011

Hi all Peter, Kathy and I have used the time differences between us since Saturday to iterate and re-iterate this section. Peter has meetings back to back for the rest of the week; Kathy and I have lost the ability to read, write or speak. Because there have now been so many changes (mainly of order, but some of text), I have tried to present this as a clean draft. However, it has not been possible for me to get rid of the highlighting (I think they've got stuck there because we're all working on different versions of Word, Open Office, Word for Mac etc). So, with apologies to Kathy and Peter I am sharing this now in order to get your comments before we sign off on the draft report tomorrow. Let me have any show stoppers, silly typos, or other comments as soon as you can. You will see that we've made an attempt to draw out some conclusions / findings, working from the Dakar draft on proxy/privacy, and plagiarising liberally from the Exec Summary. At the end are a load of definitions, which are clearly out of place where they are, but I just left them in so that we don't forget about them. Thank you. Kind regards Emily -- * * 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK t: +44 (0)1865 582 811 • m: +44 (0)7540 049 322 emily(a)emilytaylor.eu *www.etlaw.co.uk* Emily Taylor Consultancy Limited is a company registered in England and Wales No. 730471. VAT No. 114487713.

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DNS and WHOIS - How it Works
by lynn＠goodsecurityconsulting.com Nov. 29, 2011

Nov. 29, 2011

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Re: [Rt4-whois] DNS and WHOIS - How it Works
by lynn＠goodsecurityconsulting.com Nov. 29, 2011

Nov. 29, 2011

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Draft report + appendices document - 29 November
by Alice Jansen Nov. 29, 2011

Nov. 29, 2011

Dear Review Team Members, Please find attached the latest versions of the draft report and appendices document. Also available at: https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreviewprivate/Draft+report Thanks, Kind regards Alice -- Alice Jansen Assistant, Organizational Reviews 6 Rond Point Schuman, Bt.5 B-1040 Brussels Belgium Direct dial: +32 2 234 78 64 Mobile: +32 4 73 31 76 56 Skype: alice_jansen_icann

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Consumer Trust Research Summary
by lynn＠goodsecurityconsulting.com Nov. 29, 2011

Nov. 29, 2011

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Re: [Rt4-whois] Definitions of Privacy and Proxy
by James M. Bladel Nov. 29, 2011

Nov. 29, 2011

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Re: [Rt4-whois] Definitions of Privacy and Proxy
by Smith, Bill Nov. 29, 2011

Nov. 29, 2011

NORC's privacy definition, Dakar proxy definition? On Nov 28, 2011, at 9:58 PM, "Seth M Reiss" <seth.reiss(a)lex-ip.com<mailto:seth.reiss@lex-ip.com>> wrote: I feel there is a very large problem with adopting the NORC report’s definition of proxy, although I find the NORC report’s definition of privacy service eloquent and accurate. The problem with the NORC report’s definition of proxy is that it designates the licensee as the “registrant” and in doing so, shifts all legal responsibilities and risks from the retail proxy service onto the hidden licensee. This definition is unfortunate, and can only lead to confusion and contradiction as we attempt to move forward. Seth From: rt4-whois-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kawaguchi Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 2:40 PM To: rt4-whois(a)icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org> Subject: [Rt4-whois] Definitions of Privacy and Proxy Hello All, We seem to use varying definitions of privacy and proxy. I found these two definitions of both terms in our draft report In Chapter 4 page 43 u Privacy Services provide the Registrant's Name, but the Privacy Service's contact information. The Privacy Service passes on non-spam messages to the Registrant, particularly legal notices, acting as a type of “registered agent.” u Proxy Services register the domain name and license it to another for use. Chapter 8 Page 80 Privacy services limit certain user details from WHOIS by offering alternate contact information and mail forwarding services, while not actually shielding the user’s identity. Proxy services have a third-party register domain names on the user’s behalf and then license the use of the domain name so that a third-party’s contact information (and not the licensee’s) is published in WHOIS. I prefer the definitions from the Sept. 28, 2009 NORC report. Background To ensure that the community can identify who is responsible for a domain name, a registered name holder is required to provide and update, as needed, their contact information with their registrar of record. Registrars are required by ICANN to collect and provide free public access to the name of the registered domain name and its name servers and registrar, the date the domain was created and when its registration expires, and the contact information for the Registered Name Holder, the technical contact, and the administrative contact. In some instances, a registered name holder chooses to limit the amount of personal information that its registrar of record makes available to the public via a Whois query of their database. To do so, a registered name holder generally uses a privacy or proxy registration service. For the purpose of this study, the definitions of privacy and proxy services, as they relate to their use in the domain name system, are as follows: A privacy service provider offers the registrant an opportunity to register a domain name while concealing some personal identifying information listed in a WHOIS directory, such as his or her address, telephone number, or email address, by providing alternate contact information, often that of the privacy service provider. A proxy service provider registers the domain name on the registrant’s behalf and then licenses the use of the domain name to the registrant. The contact information in a WHOIS directory for a domain name registered with a proxy service is that of the proxy service provider. There may be an intentional use of the other definitions that I am not aware of but I feel we should provide an extremely clear definition of each term since they are currently used interchangeably in the marketplace. Susan Susan Kawaguchi Domain Name Manager Facebook Inc. 1601 California Avenue Palo Alto, CA Phone - 650 485-6064 Cell - 650 387 3904 Please note my email address has changed to skawaguchi(a)fb.com<mailto:skawaguchi@fb.com> NOTICE: This email (including any attachments) may contain information that is private, confidential, or protected by attorney-client or other privilege. Unless you are the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, or retransmit the email or its contents. _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois(a)icann.org<mailto:Rt4-whois@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois

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