July 2014 - Gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg

PLEASE RSVP Monthly GNSO WG Newcomer Open House Session
by Terri Agnew Aug. 28, 2014

Aug. 28, 2014

Reminder: Monthly GNSO WG Newcomer Open House Session These ongoing monthly sessions are for new GNSO WG participants to come together and discuss any questions they may have about GNSO Working Groups, procedures and/or processes. We know there is a lot of information to digest when you join a GNSO Working Group and these monthly meetings are an opportunity for newcomers and more experienced participants to meet in an informal setting without the pressure of "real work" that needs be done. The agenda is flexible. The presenters will be ready with a standard set of materials if people would like to discuss them. Feel free to submit questions, either in advance or at the beginning of the meeting, if there is a topic that you would like to explore in more depth . Providing useful answers to a wide range of questions is part of the reason why these meetings are Thursday 3 July at 20.00 UTC Thursday 7 August at 12.00 UTC Thursday 4 September at 20.00 UTC Thursday 2 October at 12.00 UTC Thursday 6 November at 20.00 UTC Thursday 4 December at 12.00 UTC To convert to your local time zone, please see <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html. If you are interested to join the next meeting on 3 July or any of the future meetings, please let the GNSO Secretariat know ( <mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> gnso-secs(a)icann.org) and we will send you the call details. If there are any specific questions you already have, or any overviews or introductions you think would be helpful (e.g. GNSO Policy Development Process or GNSO Working Group guidelines), please let us know in advance and we will prepare materials accordingly. Feel free to share this invitation with others that you think may be interested. We look forward to welcoming you at the next meeting! Nathalie Peregrine & Terri Agnew GNSO Secretariat

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Themes for discussion
by Dillon, Chris July 30, 2014

July 30, 2014

Dear colleagues, I would like to assemble here some themes for discussion during tomorrow’s call, apart from the purposes/accuracy one that has already come up (see my earlier email below). Here are some other themes I am aware of: · Should we recommend that there should be an option for registrants voluntarily to input transformed contact information? · Should we recommend that something be done with legacy transformed contact information (i.e. contact information input using a different policy from what we are recommending)? · It seems likely that our recommendations for those cases when transformation occurs will not be binding. That would mean, for example, that C5 on when the policy comes into effect would need to be redrafted. · What should happen to transformed contact information created by other stakeholders? O2 may need redrafting. Please send any additional themes for discussion to this mailing list. I’ve attached the recommendations for your convenience. Regards, Chris. From: owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg(a)icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org] On Behalf Of Dillon, Chris Sent: 25 July 2014 11:00 To: gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg(a)icann.org Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Purpose and accuracy Dear colleagues, Ideally we need to add something about the purposes of contact information that require accuracy and those that don't. The Final report from the EWG on gTLD Directory Services has a good list of purposes from p.19-34. The Study to evaluate solutions for the submission and display of internationalized contact data has a useful section on Information accuracy for effective use on p.9 with three levels of accuracy suggested: 1. Requiring accurate transformation (e.g. valid in a court of law, matching information in a passport, matching information in legal incorporation etc.) 2. Requiring consistent transformation (allowing use of such information to match other information provided in another context, e.g. to match address information to a registrant on a Google map, etc.) 3. Requiring ad hoc transformation (allowing informal or casual version of the information in another language to provide more general accessibility) The last sentence of the study is of particular interest to us from the accuracy point of view and also from its summary of the state of the transformation tools etc.: "The study has found that provisioning and querying protocols are lacking either support or deployment for internationalized registration data, and that the tools tested are not providing a high level of transformation accuracy and consistency of internationalized registration data." Do we need a better analysis of purposes and accuracy? Does one exist? Incidentally, see https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/7+Studies+and+Background+Docum… for links to the reports mentioned above. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon<http://www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon>

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regrets for next two weeks
by James Galvin July 26, 2014

July 26, 2014

I will be on vacation and offline the next two weeks and therefore will not make the next two calls. See you all on 14 August 2014. Jim

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Purpose and accuracy
by Dillon, Chris July 25, 2014

July 25, 2014

Dear colleagues, Ideally we need to add something about the purposes of contact information that require accuracy and those that don't. The Final report from the EWG on gTLD Directory Services has a good list of purposes from p.19-34. The Study to evaluate solutions for the submission and display of internationalized contact data has a useful section on Information accuracy for effective use on p.9 with three levels of accuracy suggested: 1. Requiring accurate transformation (e.g. valid in a court of law, matching information in a passport, matching information in legal incorporation etc.) 2. Requiring consistent transformation (allowing use of such information to match other information provided in another context, e.g. to match address information to a registrant on a Google map, etc.) 3. Requiring ad hoc transformation (allowing informal or casual version of the information in another language to provide more general accessibility) The last sentence of the study is of particular interest to us from the accuracy point of view and also from its summary of the state of the transformation tools etc.: "The study has found that provisioning and querying protocols are lacking either support or deployment for internationalized registration data, and that the tools tested are not providing a high level of transformation accuracy and consistency of internationalized registration data." Do we need a better analysis of purposes and accuracy? Does one exist? Incidentally, see https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/7+Studies+and+Background+Docum… for links to the reports mentioned above. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon<http://www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon>

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MP3 Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP WG meeting - 24 July 2014
by Nathalie Peregrine July 24, 2014

July 24, 2014

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group call held on Thursday 24 July at 1300 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-20140724-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jul The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Pitinan Kooarmornpatana - GAC Petter Rindforth – IPC Chris Dillon – NCSG Ubolthip Sethakaset – Individual Peter Dernbach – IPC Mae Suchayapim Siriwat – GAC Wanawit Ahkuputra – GAC Justine Chew - Individual Wolf-Ulrich Knoben – ISPCP Thitikorn Apologies: Jim Galvin – SSAC ICANN staff: Julie Hedlund Amy Bivins Mary Wong Lars Hoffmann Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Wiki page: <http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx> http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie GNSO Secretariat Adobe Chat Transcript for Thursday 24 July 2014: Nathalie Peregrine:Welcome to the Translation and Transliteration PDP WG meeting on Thursday 24July 2014 Chris Dillon:Hello, all Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:hi Chris Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:Hi all Lars Hoffmann:hi chris - i made you presented (as per note that i sent earlier) Chris Dillon:Thank you, Lars. Julie Hedlund:HI everyone -- I'm waiting to get on the call. Chris Dillon:Same here Julie Hedlund:They must have a different meaning for the word "momentarily" since I think its been longer than that now! Chris Dillon:Let's hope they're waiting for the hour Julie Hedlund:Finally in! Nathalie Peregrine:i have awrned the operator Petter Rindforth:Lucky you... Petter Rindforth:I'm here now :-) Mary Wong:@Chris, at least in Singapore we have Arctic-strength airoonditioning :) Chris Dillon:True! Justine Chew:Hi, sorry I'm late in joining. Peter Dernbach:Hello all. Just joined the call. Nathalie Peregrine:Hello, Peter! Justine Chew:No worries, Chris, I for one appreciate your efforts in putting this straw man v6 together! Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:Thank you very much Chris Peter Dernbach:Thank you all. Pitinan Kooarmornpatana:thanks... bye all Julie Hedlund:Thank you everyone! Have a nice day! Chris Dillon:Goodbye all.

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Draft recommendations and next meetings
by Dillon, Chris July 24, 2014

July 24, 2014

Dear colleagues, Since the ICANN London meeting I have been drafting a recommendation document on translation and transliteration of contact information with the much appreciated support of Lars, Julie, Marika Konings and others. I am intending to present it at today's meeting. I shall circulate it about two hours before the meeting (earlier if possible). I then have another meeting until ours starts, so I will be out of contact. The draft is likely to generate quite a bit of discussion. I'm keen that this is largely done in writing to this list, so that new versions may be discussed during our meetings on 31 July and 14 August. I am travelling on 7 August and so can't make our meeting. It may still be possible to run that meeting, if Rudi is free. Incidentally, I had been thinking that we were coming out of our "read relevant documents" phase, but the drafting has indicated a couple of documents we still need to look at. Until later. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon<http://www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon>

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Transformation required at the validation stage?
by Dillon, Chris July 18, 2014

July 18, 2014

Dear colleagues, I just listened to last Thursday's call. It sounds as if you covered a lot of ground, although I haven't yet checked whether the FAQs Rudi circulated contain anything that didn't come up on the pages I highlighted as important for us as I read the Final report from the EWG on gTLD Directory Services. At one point Jim Galvin asked whether transformation would be required at the validation stage. I would say no to that question. The original language/script data are primary and suitable for validation. It's not that transformed data cannot be validated, but they need to be high quality (outside Greek, Cyrillic and alphabetic scripts often created by human being rather than a computer). Actually I think Rudi made a similar point later in the call, but just to clarify that. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon<http://www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon>

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Proposal to cancel the weekly call - urgent
by Rudi Vansnick July 17, 2014

July 17, 2014

Dear colleagues, As we have today several meetings in parallel going on, Chris Dillon is also on travel, I’m asking you if we could cancel today’s call. I’m following the IANA coordination meeting in London, have a SO/AC leadership call at the same as our call and thus making live quite difficult … Sorry for this late message. Kind regards, Rudi Vansnick Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) www.npoc.org rudi.vansnick(a)npoc.org Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16 Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32

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Additional information on EWG RDS.
by Rudi Vansnick July 11, 2014

July 11, 2014

Dear colleagues, Please find herewith the link to another document related to the Expert Working Group on gTLD Directory Services (EWG). It is a Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) report that eventually would help us on some of the purpose questions we had during the call yesterday. https://community.icann.org/display/WG/EWG+FAQs Kind regards Rudi Vansnick Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) www.npoc.org rudi.vansnick(a)npoc.org Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16 Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32

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MP3 Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP WG meeting - Thursday 10 July 2014
by Terri Agnew July 10, 2014

July 10, 2014

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group call held on Thursday 10 July at 1300 UTC at: <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-20140710-en.mp3> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-20140710-en.mp3 On page: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jul> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jul The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Jennifer Chung - RySG Rudi Vansnick – NPOC Peter Dernbach – IPC Jim Galvin – SSAC Howard Li – SOI Klaus Stoll – NPOC Wolf Ulrich Knoben – ISPC Wen Zhai – NTAG Apologies: Chris Dillon – NCSG Petter Rindforth - IPC ICANN staff: Julie Hedlund Amy Bivins Glen de Saint Gery Lars Hoffmann Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Wiki page: <http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx> http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx Thank you. Kind regards, Terri GNSO Secretariat Adobe Chat Transcript for Thursday 10 July 2014: Lars Hoffmann:Welcome to the Translation and Transliteration PDP WG meeting on Thursday 10 July 2014 Julie Hedlund:Hello everyone -- I'm currently in queue to get on the call. Rudi Vansnick:hello Lars Hoffmann:@julie - same here Rudi Vansnick:just waiting for a few minutes Jennifer Chung:Hello everyone. Julie Hedlund:I'm on the call now. Terri Agnew:I have alerted the operator Jim Galvin:still waiting on hold Peter Dernbach:Hello everyone. Howard Li:me too, on hold Wolf-Ulrich Knoben:I'm in now, hello everyone Howard Li:I am in Howard Li:sorry, I am dropped from the call Wen Zhai:Hello everyone. I could not hear anything. Is it because i got in as a guest? Lars Hoffmann:it was julie actually ... Terri Agnew:Wen, I have private chatted you Jim Galvin:since we can not display both the list from Chris and the document could someone please remind us of the page number we are reviewing here in the chat room? Thanks. Julie Hedlund:@Jim: I'll note the pages in the chat room as we go along. Julie Hedlund:page 21 Julie Hedlund:page 22 Julie Hedlund:Page 32-33 Peter Dernbach:where is the sentence you quoted Rudi? Jennifer Chung:I think we are on pg 34, Rudi quoted from the second and third paragraphs. Peter Dernbach:thanks Jennifer Rudi Vansnick:yes pg 34 par. 3 Sentence starting At lthe very least, however ... Rudi Vansnick:page 43 - point 30 Klaus Stoll:Sorry I need to go. Till next time. Terri Agnew:Petter Rindforth sends his apology for this call Julie Hedlund:Apologies everyone, but I need to get off to get another call started. Jim Galvin:@julie -- say it isn't so! :-) Peter Dernbach:thanks Julie. Julie Hedlund:Thanks everyone -- Bye! Jim Galvin:Folks I need to move to another call. Thanks Rudi! And thanks to Chris. Great list. Peter Dernbach:Thanks Rudi. Thanks all. Jennifer Chung:Thanks Rudi, bye everyone! Wen Zhai:bye Howard Li:bye

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