August 2013 - Gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg

Actions: Charter Drafting Team Meeting 08 August 2013
by Julie Hedlund Sept. 19, 2013

Sept. 19, 2013

Dear members of the Charter Drafting Team, Please see below the actions from today's meeting. These also are posted to the wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/08+August+2013. Our meetings will occur weekly on Thursdays at 1500 UTC (08:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT, 16:00 London, 17:00 CEST). The next meeting is Thursday, 15 August. A meeting notification with teleconference information will be sent separately. Actions: 1. Selecting Chair/Co-Chairs: During today's meeting Chris Dillon and Rudi Vansnick volunteered to be co-chairs. Please let us know if others would like to volunteer and/or support Chris and Rudi. 2. Draft Charter: Staff will provide a draft charter for review by COB Tuesday, 13 August. It will be posted in the wiki and in the Adobe Connect room for discussion at the meeting on 15 August. Please let me know if you have any questions. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

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PLEASE FILL IN DOODLE: Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Charter Drafting Team
by Nathalie Peregrine Sept. 3, 2013

Sept. 3, 2013

Dear all, Further to Julie's email and in order to facilitate as new group meeting time NEXT WEEK, please confirm your availability via the attached Doodle poll. http://doodle.com/axni7epkymaxww3x This poll will close on Sunday 1 September at 1700 UTC - the date and time will be announced shortly thereafter. Please bear in mind that Monday 2nd September is Labour Day in the US, however this Doodle is to set a new time and date for ALL upcoming meetings. Kind regards Nathalie GNSO Secretariat

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Attendance and Recording Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Charter Drafting Team meeting - 22 August 2013
by Nathalie Peregrine Aug. 22, 2013

Aug. 22, 2013

Dear All, The next Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Charter Drafting Team teleconference will be held on Thursday 29th August 2013 at 1500 UTC. These calls will now take place on a weekly basis. PLEASE RSVP TO GNSO-SECS(a)ICANN.ORG<mailto:GNSO-SECS@ICANN.ORG> FOR NEXT WEEK'S CALL. Please find the MP3 recording for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Charter Drafting Team call held on Thursday 22 August 2013 at 15:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-20130822-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may>aug The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Chris Dillon - NCSG Rudi Vansnick - NPOC Vinay Kumar Singh - individual Amr Elsadr - NCUC Apologies: none ICANN staff: Julie Hedlund Lars Hoffman Glen de Saint Gery Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Wiki page: http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie Peregrine For GNSO Secretariat Adobe Chat Transcript for Wednesday 22 August 2013: Glen de Saint Gery:Welcome to the Translation and transliteration of Contact Information PDP working Group Julie Hedlund:Welcome Chris and Vinay Vinay Kumar Singh:Hi Julie Chris Dillon:Hi Julie and Vinay Vinay Kumar Singh:Hi Chris Rudi Vansnick:is ok Julie Hedlund:Ching Chiao RySG Ching Chiao SOIEdmon Chung RySG Edmon Chung SOIChris Dillon NCSG Chris Dillon SOIAmr Elsadr NCUC Amr Elsadr SOIYoav Keren RrSG Yoav Keren SOIVinay Kumar Singh Individual Vinay Kumar Singh SOIRudi Vansnick Vinay Kumar Singh:No Julie Hedlund:How about adding this text? "The PDP-WG will not be limited to considering the above alternatives, but will be encouraged to consider all possible alternatives." Chris Dillon:Very nice Julie Hedlund:To following immediately below the bullets. Chris Dillon:Yes Rudi Vansnick:that's why it is important we could receive input before finalizing the charter from people having experience with IDN's such as Edmon Chung Julie Hedlund:Thank you Rudi. They are on the DT. We can ask them specifically to comment too. Julie Hedlund:By "they" I mean both Edmon Chung and Ching Chao. Rudi Vansnick:indeed Julie Nathalie Peregrine:Amr Elsadr has joined the call Rudi Vansnick:welcome Amr Amr Elsadr:The toll free number to dial in in the U.S. is not working. Can I get a confirmation on the number please? Amr Elsadr:Hi Rudi. Still haven't dialled in. Rudi Vansnick:thanks a lot for the clarification Julie Vinay Kumar Singh:Julie, thats sound good Vinay Kumar Singh:Julie, thats sound good Julie Hedlund:Here is some suggested text to add after the first sentence: "The PDP-WG also may consult with ICANN Legal staff when considering alternatives." Amr Elsadr:Can I speak using Adobe connect by connecting Audio? Chris Dillon:I think so. Amr Elsadr:Thnx Chris. Rudi Vansnick:good point Amr Julie Hedlund:How about this? "In addition, the PDP-WG should review the work of other PDPs relating to IDNs and WHOIS." Amr Elsadr:Sounds good, Julie. Julie Hedlund:I think that rather than listing specific PDPs we could just leave it open. Julie Hedlund:Okay Julie Hedlund:I can pull these from the wiki as a start Julie Hedlund:They all are on the GNSO wiki both past and present Rudi Vansnick:thanks Julie, good idea, you're great ;-) Amr Elsadr:;) Vinay Kumar Singh:I think its good now Vinay Kumar Singh:Probably I will go once again through the document and list down the legal issues that would may arise during the policy development Chris Dillon:Thank you Julie Hedlund:Chris and Rudi, I think that what you have said is right. The WG cannot decide who will bear the burden, but can suggest who should take that decision. Julie Hedlund:They could suggest that the registrar should bear the burden, but since this is a policy issue it could say that the Board could make that decision. Julie Hedlund:Yes, there are legal considerations as Rudi points out. Vinay Kumar Singh:I agree with Rudi, because their will be legal implications in those scenarios Rudi Vansnick:perhaps the easiest solution exists in asking the registrant to do the translation themself Amr Elsadr:I think I'm beginning to understand the complexity of the issue. If you all don't mind, I'll try to look into this a bit further, and perhaps continue the discussion on the mailing list if I come up with something. Chris Dillon:Many thanks! Rudi Vansnick:sure i was just thinking loud Rudi Vansnick:so we have a tasklist for the next days Vinay Kumar Singh:Just to add, I am a Law Student :-) Amr Elsadr::D Rudi Vansnick:i'll take on mine to try to convince Edmon and Ching to help us with their experiences Rudi Vansnick:can we still add others ? Julie Hedlund:Yes, of course! Julie Hedlund:If you have others you want to encourage that would be great. Julie Hedlund:This DT is not limited. Rudi Vansnick:ok Amr Elsadr:Thanks everyone. Julie Hedlund:Thank you all! Chris Dillon:Goodbye all Vinay Kumar Singh:Thanks Julie Hedlund:Goodbye

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MP3 Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Charter Drafting Team meeting - 15 August 2013
by Julia Charvolen Aug. 16, 2013

Aug. 16, 2013

Dear All, The next Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Charter Drafting Team teleconference will be held on Thursday 22 August 2013 at 1500 UTC. These calls will now take place on a weekly basis. Please find the MP3 recording for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Charter Drafting Team call held on Thursday 15 August 2013 at 15:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-20130815-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may>aug Wiki page: http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO master calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Chris Dillon – NCSG Amr Elsadr – NCUC Yoav Keren - RrSG Rudi Vansnick - NPOC Vinay Kumar Singh - individual Apologies: none ICANN staff: Julie Hedlund Mary Wong Julia Charvolen ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Thank you. Kind regards, Julia Charvolen For GNSO Secretariat Adobe Chat Transcript for Wednesday 15 August 2013: Yoav Keren:Is there a call in number? Yoav Keren:thanks :) Julie Hedlund:Yes, Julia will forward them to you. Julia Charvolen:Sure, I will forward you the Verizon dial in details Julia Charvolen:Yoav, you should receive the email shortly Rudi Vansnick:hi everybody Julie Hedlund:Hello Rudi Rudi Vansnick:bankholiday here ... Julie Hedlund:Sorry about that! VINAY KUMAR SINGH:Hi Julie, Rudi and Chris Amr Elsadr:Hi everyone..., still dialing in. Amr Elsadr:Just joined the call. Rudi Vansnick:you are most welcome here Amr Amr Elsadr:thnx Rudi. Rudi Vansnick:most appreciated Yoav joining us Julie Hedlund:In the drafting team we do have two other members: Ching Chao and Edmon Chung. See:https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/4.+Membership+and+Mailing+… Julie Hedlund:Note that our current membership is only the Charter Drafting Team. We will be seeking a larger membership for the Working Group. Julie Hedlund:We will be putting out a Call for Participation specifically for the PDP Working Group once the Charter is approved. Mary Wong:FYI, following from the GNSO Working Sessions in Durban, we will be facilitating further discussion in the Council as to ways to improve participation and efficencies within PDP WGs. Rudi Vansnick:vacation period has certainly influenced this draft team participation Mary Wong:We are preparing a staff paper that summarizes these discussions in Durban for distribution shortly. VINAY KUMAR SINGH:Chris, I think we need to seek legal assistance because translation and transliteration may change the Contact Info when used in different script. Mary Wong:Follow up to Julie's point: other WGs have referred questions for information and research to ICANN Legal before, e.g. in the IGO-INGO WG, they asked for information as to international and national laws that protected these organizations. Rudi Vansnick:thanks Mary Amr Elsadr:+1 @Yoav..., the language looks like it needs to be revised. Julie Hedlund:There is another WG that will be developing a data model for IRD Julie Hedlund:The work of this WG will fold into that Julie Hedlund:This WG is limited to the issues at hand -- it cannot expand its scope. It is tasked with just the two issues. The group developing the data model for IRD will look at how IRD will be handled in a registration data service (such as WHOIS) Rudi Vansnick:@Julie: indeed, it will be a difficult task as it is part of a large concern and topic Julie Hedlund:Thank you everyone and for those of you who joined on a bank holiday! Mary Wong:Yes, thank you all! Amr Elsadr:Thnx. Bye. Julia Charvolen:Thank you everyone Chris Dillon:Goodbye all!

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Agenda for this afternoon's meeting
by Dillon, Chris Aug. 15, 2013

Aug. 15, 2013

Dear colleagues, Please find below an agenda for this afternoon's meeting: 1. Roll call 2. Who else do we need to encourage to be part of the working group? 3. Discussion of draft of 'Translation and transliteration of Contact information PDP Working Group charter' 4. AOB 5. DONM With apologies for late circulation. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Dept of Information Studies, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon

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Attendance and Recording Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Charter Drafting Team meeting - 08 August 2013
by Nathalie Peregrine Aug. 8, 2013

Aug. 8, 2013

Dear All, The next Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Charter Drafting Team teleconference will be held on Thursday 15th August 2013 at 1500 UTC. These calls will now take place on a weekly basis. Please find the MP3 recording for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Charter Drafting Team call held on Thursday 08 August 2013 at 15:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-20130808-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may>aug The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Chris Dillon - NCSG Rudi Vansnick - NPOC Vinay Kumar Singh - individual Apologies: none ICANN staff: Julie Hedlund Lars Hoffman Julia Charvolen Mary Wong Glen de Saint Gery Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Wiki page: http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie Peregrine For GNSO Secretariat Adobe Chat Transcript for Wednesday 08 August 2013: Lars Hoffmann:Welcome to the meeting of the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Charter Drafting Team Meeting on Thursday 8 August 2013 Lars Hoffmann:The group's wiki page is here: https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/Translation+and+Transliteratio… Nathalie Peregrine:Vinay, you will need to activate your microphone by clicking on the telephone icon at the top of the AC screen Rudi Vansnick:how many do we expect ? Nathalie Peregrine:Vinay, if you provide a contact number, we can dial out to you VINAY KUMAR SINGH:Hi, Nathalie I think their are some issues at my end but probably I will resolve in few seconds Rudi Vansnick:no questions from my side Nathalie Peregrine:please let me know if i can assist, Vinay Rudi Vansnick:i propose Chris, seems to be the right person ;-) Rudi Vansnick:i'm willing to co-chair if needed Rudi Vansnick:is ok for me Rudi Vansnick:link to template Rudi Vansnick:http://gnso.icann.org/en/basics/101/wg-formation/charter-template-… Chris Dillon:Thank you, Rudy. Lars Hoffmann:i just dropped from the call. Rudi Vansnick:was very clear thanks Julie Lars Hoffmann:back on. Rudi Vansnick:links to IDN will probably be interesting too Rudi Vansnick:looks good so far Rudi Vansnick:i think there is no need to use other rules than those of 3.6 VINAY KUMAR SINGH:I think weekly meeting would be good Rudi Vansnick:would be perfect Julie VINAY KUMAR SINGH:me too Rudi Vansnick:we hear you Rudi Vansnick:thanks to all VINAY KUMAR SINGH:thank you all VINAY KUMAR SINGH:byee Chris Dillon:Many thanks, all!

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FW: [ntfy-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] FIRST Meeting invitation: Charter Draft Team for the PDP on Translation and Transliteration of Contact information - Thursday 8 August 2013 at 1500 UTC
by Lars Hoffmann Aug. 7, 2013

Aug. 7, 2013

Dear all, Just a quick reminder about tomorrow's meeting at 15.00 UTC (for other places see:http://tinyurl.com/nh95ye3) You will find all relevant information below. Many thanks and best wishes, Lars From: Nathalie Peregrine <nathalie.peregrine(a)icann.org> Date: Friday, August 2, 2013 18:20 PM To: "ntfy-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg(a)icann.org" <ntfy-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg(a)icann.org> Cc: "gnso-secs(a)icann.org" <gnso-secs(a)icann.org> Subject: [ntfy-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] FIRST Meeting invitation: Charter Draft Team for the PDP on Translation and Transliteration of Contact information - Thursday 8 August 2013 at 1500 UTC Dear All, The first Charter Draft Team for the PDP on Translation and Transliteration of Contact information teleconference is scheduled for Thursday 8 August 2013 at 1500 UTC 08:00 PDT, 11:00 EDT, 16:00 London, 17:00 CEST For other places see:http://tinyurl.com/nh95ye3 Adobe Connect WITH AUDIO enabled: http://icann.adobeconnect.com/gnsocontactinfopdpwg/ For those of you using the Adobe Connect audio, you may do so by activating your computer microphone via the Adobe room (Using a headset is preferable here). Make sure your speakers and microphone are not on mute. - Select the TELEPHONE ICON at the top of the AC toolbar and choose CONNECT MY AUDIO (only option). - Select USING COMPUTER twice - Select ALLOW access to the ICANN adobe room - the TELEPHONE ICON at the top of the toolbar should then have changed into a MICROPHONE ICON - You may click on this MICROPHONE ICON to mute yourself (Icon will then have a line through it) and to unmute yourself (Line disappears) Participants must ALWAYS have their microphone or telephone on MUTE as default setting. You are requested to RAISE YOUR HAND if you wish to participate to avoid disruption. Dial-in details are below. If you require a dial-out, please let me know. ______________________________________________________________________ Participant passcode: CONTACT Dial in numbers: Country Toll NumbersFreephone/ Toll Free Number ARGENTINA 0800-777-0519 AUSTRALIA ADELAIDE: 61-8-8121-4842 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA BRISBANE: 61-7-3102-0944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA CANBERRA: 61-2-6100-1944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA MELBOURNE: 61-3-9010-7713 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA PERTH: 61-8-9467-5223 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA SYDNEY: 61-2-8205-8129 1-800-657-260 AUSTRIA 43-1-92-81-113 0800-005-259 BELGIUM 32-2-400-9861 0800-3-8795 BRAZIL 55-11-3958-0779 0800-7610651 CHILE 1230-020-2863 CHINA CHINA A: 86-400-810-4789 10800-712-1670 CHINA CHINA B: 86-400-810-4789 10800-120-1670 COLOMBIA 01800-9-156474 CROATIA 080-08-06-309 CZECH REPUBLIC 420-2-25-98-56-64 800-700-177 DENMARK 45-7014-0284 8088-8324 ESTONIA 800-011-1093 FINLAND 358-9-5424-7162 0-800-9-14610 FRANCE LYON: 33-4-26-69-12-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE MARSEILLE: 33-4-86-06-00-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE PARIS: 33-1-70-70-60-72 080-511-1496 GERMANY 49-69-2222-20362 0800-664-4247 GREECE 30-80-1-100-0687 00800-12-7312 HONG KONG 852-3001-3863 800-962-856 HUNGARY 36-1-700-8856 06-800-12755 INDIA BANGALORE: 91-80-61275204 INDIA MUMBAI: 91-22-61501629 INDIA INDIA A: 000-800-852-1268 INDIA INDIA B: 000-800-001-6305 INDIA INDIA C: 1800-300-00491 INDONESIA 001-803-011-3982 IRELAND 353-1-246-7646 1800-992-368 ISRAEL 1-80-9216162 ITALY MILAN: 39-02-3600-6007 800-986-383 ITALY ROME: 39-06-8751-6018 800-986-383 ITALY TORINO: 39-011-510-0118 800-986-383 JAPAN OSAKA: 81-6-7739-4799 0066-33-132439 JAPAN TOKYO: 81-3-5539-5191 0066-33-132439 LATVIA 8000-3185 LUXEMBOURG 352-27-000-1364 8002-9246 MALAYSIA 1-800-81-3065 MEXICO GUADALAJARA (JAL): 52-33-3208-7310 001-866-376-9696 MEXICO MEXICO CITY: 52-55-5062-9110 001-866-376-9696 MEXICO MONTERREY: 52-81-2482-0610 001-866-376-9696 NETHERLANDS 31-20-718-8588 0800-023-4378 NEW ZEALAND 64-9-970-4771 0800-447-722 NORWAY 47-21-590-062 800-15157 PANAMA 011-001-800-5072065 PERU 0800-53713 PHILIPPINES 63-2-858-3716 1800-111-42453 POLAND 00-800-1212572 PORTUGAL 8008-14052 ROMANIA 40-31-630-01-79 RUSSIA 8-10-8002-0144011 SAUDI ARABIA 800-8-110087 SINGAPORE 65-6883-9230 800-120-4663 SLOVAK REPUBLIC 421-2-322-422-25 0800-002066 SLOVENIA 0-800-81310 SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-80414 SOUTH KOREA 82-2-6744-1083 00798-14800-7352 SPAIN 34-91-414-25-33 800-300-053 SWEDEN 46-8-566-19-348 0200-884-622 SWITZERLAND 41-44-580-6398 0800-120-032 TAIWAN 886-2-2795-7379 00801-137-797 THAILAND 001-800-1206-66056 TURKEY 00-800-151-0516 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES 8000-35702370 UNITED KINGDOM BIRMINGHAM: 44-121-210-9025 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM GLASGOW: 44-141-202-3225 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LEEDS: 44-113-301-2125 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LONDON: 44-20-7108-6370 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM MANCHESTER: 44-161-601-1425 0808-238-6029 URUGUAY 000-413-598-3421 USA 1-517-345-9004 866-692-5726 VENEZUELA 0800-1-00-3702 Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie Peregrine For GNSO Secretariat

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