January 2015 - Gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg

Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP WG meeting on Thurs. 29 Jan.
by Dillon, Chris Feb. 3, 2015

Feb. 3, 2015

Dear colleagues, Please find the draft agenda for Thursday's meeting at: https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/29+January+2015 Incidentally, we have now received three comments. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon<http://www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon>

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MP3 Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP WG meeting - 29 January 2015
by Terri Agnew Jan. 29, 2015

Jan. 29, 2015

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group call held on Thursday 29 January 2015 at 14:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-29jan15-en.mp3 On page: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jan> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jan The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Chris Dillon – NCSG Jim Galvin - RySG Amr Elsadr – NCUC Ubolthip Sethakaset – Individual Petter Rindforth – IPC Peter Dernbach- IPC Rudi Vansnick – NPOC Jennifer Chung – RySG Roger Carney – no soi Apologies: Emily Taylor - RrSG ICANN staff: Julie Hedlund Howard Li Lars Hoffmann Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Wiki page: <http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx> http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew GNSO Secretariat Adobe Chat Transcript for Thursday 29 January 2015: Terri Agnew:Dear all, Welcome to the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group teleconference on Thursday 29 January 2015 Peter Denbach:Hello all. Rudi Vansnick:hello Peter, welcome Rudi Vansnick:hello Jennifer Chris Dillon:Hello, all. Jennifer Chung:Hello Rudi, hello all. Jim Galvin:Jim is on the phone now - not sure why they didn't announce me. Rudi Vansnick:@Jim: we see you also in the Adobe connect Lars Hoffmann:i released the synch and so you can scroll through the document freely Lars Hoffmann:here is the forum as it stands: http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-transliteration-contact-initial-16dec… Jennifer Chung:Thanks Lars! Lars Hoffmann:please note it's work in progress hence the gaps and empty lines. i will send a fully updated and complete version to the group on monday - the day after the comments close. Terri Agnew:Welcome Amr Elsadr Amr Elsadr:Thanks Terri. Amr Elsadr:Well..., if you know Michele, you might not think this language is that strong. :) Terri Agnew:Welcome Ubolthip Sethakaset Petter Rindforth:Just so that we use a description/identification that is clear to all Jim Galvin:DNRD-DS is the SSAC suggested phrase. Roger Carney:+1 Jim Rudi Vansnick:i expect ALAC coming with some comments here Rudi Vansnick:they are in voting process on their report Rudi Vansnick:https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Transla… Petter Rindforth:Again, just so that we are clear to all - even external - what we mean Rudi Vansnick:perhaps we will have the updated version of this document on Monday or Tuesday Lars Hoffmann:yes. i will distribute by monday COB Rudi Vansnick:as we are close to the end-date of comments Rudi Vansnick:well done Rudi Vansnick:well done Peter Denbach:thank you Chris, Rudi and all. Howard Li:thanks, Peter Denbach:See everyone in Singapore. Rudi Vansnick:save travels and see you in Singapore Roger Carney:Thank you!! Petter Rindforth:See you soon! Jennifer Chung:thank you all Jim Galvin:Thanks bye! Chris Dillon:Thank you, everyone.

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Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] 2nd public comment
by Lars Hoffmann Jan. 23, 2015

Jan. 23, 2015

Dear Chris, all, Just wanted to let you know that staff is in the process of preparing a comment review tool¹ - similar to the one we used for the SO/AC feedback last year. I will make sure the first version is available in time for next week¹s meeting including those comments that have been submitted by then. Best wishes to you all and have a good weekend. Lars From: <Dillon>, Chris <c.dillon(a)ucl.ac.uk> Date: Friday, 23 January 2015 12:06 To: "gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg(a)icann.org" <gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg(a)icann.org> Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] 2nd public comment Dear colleagues, FYI, as it is constructive, five pages and requires a slow read. We have received our second public comment, from the Registrar Stakeholder Group: http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-transliteration-contact-initial-16dec1 4/msg00001.html We will be discussing it during next Thursday¹s meeting. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon <http://www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon>

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2nd public comment
by Dillon, Chris Jan. 23, 2015

Jan. 23, 2015

Dear colleagues, FYI, as it is constructive, five pages and requires a slow read. We have received our second public comment, from the Registrar Stakeholder Group: http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-transliteration-contact-initial-16dec… We will be discussing it during next Thursday's meeting. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon<http://www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon>

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Jan. 22 meeting cancelled
by Dillon, Chris Jan. 21, 2015

Jan. 21, 2015

Dear colleagues, As we have received only one public comment, tomorrow's meeting is cancelled. Our next meeting will, therefore be on Thurs. Jan. 29 at 14:00 UTC. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon<http://www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon>

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Translation / Transliteration Comment from Blacknight
by Dillon, Chris Jan. 21, 2015

Jan. 21, 2015

Dear Michele, On behalf of the WG, I would like to thank you for your public comment*, which we will discuss at our next meeting. * http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-transliteration-contact-initial-16dec… I would like to ask you for further information on some aspects: * Do you support the preliminary recommendations? * Do you regard the preliminary recommendation that registrants should be able to submit their data in the language the registrar operates in as feasible? * How do you currently handle registrants wanting to submit registration data in Irish? Incidentally, at an earlier stage, the WG discussed how transformation could be implemented, if the recommendation were to change to mandatory transformation, and ASCII personal names would almost certainly be left as they are. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon<http://www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon>

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Webinar Info
by Lars Hoffmann Jan. 14, 2015

Jan. 14, 2015

Dear all, Just a quick reminder that Chris and Rudi with support from staff will run a 30min webinar on the findings of our Initial Report. You are very welcome to join and are strongly encouraged to disseminate the link below among your respective groups. Webinar Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP: Initial Report Friday 16 January 2015 14:00 UTC for other times see http://tinyurl.com/pnjhsf7 More info and sign up: http://gnso.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-09jan15-en.htm Very best wishes, Lars PS: The next WG call will take place Thursday 22 January 2015 at 14:00 UTC more information on that will follow.

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T&T activities over the next couple of weeks
by Dillon, Chris Jan. 8, 2015

Jan. 8, 2015

Dear colleagues, Happy New Year! As there have been no public comments so far, I would like to cancel our meetings tomorrow (Jan. 8) and on Jan. 15, and have a webinar on Monday 19th at 15:00 UTC (tentative date/time). The current agenda for the webinar is at the bottom of this email. You are most welcome to make suggestions for improving it by 23:59 UTC tomorrow Jan. 8. Two other things: 1. Face-to-face meeting in Singapore The current intention is to have a closed meeting, use Doodle to maximize attendance and invite people from outside the WG. 2. Charter question 2 Especially if our main recommendation were to change to pro-mandatory transformation, we would need a detailed answer to the second question in our charter: "Who should decide who should bear the burden [of] translating contact information to a single common language or transliterating contact information to a single common script." Answers that have come up during our discussions have included: - Registrants, registrars and/or registries - Whoever benefits from the provision of a transformation service More detailed suggestions are welcome and would be likely to strengthen the case for mandatory transformation. With all good wishes for 2015, Regards, Chris. Draft webinar agenda 1. Welcome 2. Background to the WG 3. Discussion in the Group a. SO/AC outreach and feedback b. Gathering of arguments c. Straw man d. Initial Report without consensus call 4. Recommendations a. #1-#6 b. Pertinence of Charter question 2 5. Next steps a. Public Comment Period b. Face-to-face meeting in Singapore c. Time line for Final Report 6. AOB a. WG open to everybody b. Confirmation of next call c. Q&A -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon<http://www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon>

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Query about the closing date for comments on our Initial Report?
by Emily Taylor Jan. 7, 2015

Jan. 7, 2015

Hi there One of the RrSG has pointed out a discrepancy in the closing dates for comments to our Initial Report for the Translation and Transliteration PDP (see below). Please can you help us understand the correct deadline? Thanks Emily ----- There is a discrepancy in the posted timeframes for the comment period deadline: The original announcement states 11 January 2015 for comments and 1 February 2015 for the reply period: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-12-16-en The public comment page states 1 February 2015 for comments with no reply period. https://www.icann.org/public-comments/transliteration-contact-initial-2014-… This may be related to ICANN adopting a new process for public comments which removes the ‘reply period’ in favour of a longer comment period and things got mixed up with the posting. It would be useful to understand which is the correct deadline. Is this something you could ask of staff on behalf of the WG. -- Emily Taylor *MA(Cantab), MBA* Director *Netistrar Ltd *- Domain Names at Trade Prices W: http://www.netistrar.com | M: 07540 049322 | T: 01283 617808 Repton House, Bretby Business Park, Bretby, Derbyshire, DE15 0YZ Registered in England and Wales No. 08735583. VAT No. 190062332

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