September 2015 - Gnso-dmpm-wg

DMPM Agenda - 22 Sept 2015 @ 21:00 UTC
by Berry Cobb Sept. 30, 2015

Sept. 30, 2015

WG Members, NOTE - new time at 21:00 UTC to avoid any future clashes with CCWG. Below is the agenda for next Tuesday's meeting attached with the latest version of the Public Comment Review Tool. We received 9 comments from the community. I've updated the latest PCRT with WG response and actions based on the group's deliberations in our last call. Please try to review the remainder of the comments prior to the call and be prepared to discuss the WG's response and actions to take, if any. Proposed Agenda - Data and Metrics for Policy Making - 22 Sept 2015 @ 21:00 UTC 1. Roll Call / Statements of Interest 2. Review submitted comments (http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-data-metrics-29jul15/) 3. Discuss submission of report to GNSO Council in time for Dublin Thank you. B Berry A. Cobb Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers 720.839.5735 mail(a)berrycobb.com @berrycobb

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Attendance and MP3 DMPM call 29 September 2015 at 21:00 UTC
by Terri Agnew Sept. 30, 2015

Sept. 30, 2015

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for Data and Metrics for Policy Making Working Group call on Tuesday, 29 September 2015 at 21:00 UTC at: http:/audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-dmpm-29sep15-en.mp3<http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=NrFWbrBstcrPWP369qgbqlXiSKeL20xnUXz…> On page:http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#s<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#sep>ep<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#sep> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Pam Little - RySG Sara Bockey - RrSG Graeme Bunton - RrSG Marinel Rosca - Individual Gabriel Vergara - NCUC Apologies: Cheryl Langdon-Orr - At-Large Jonathan Zuck - IPC Tony Onorato - Individual ICANN staff: Berry Cobb Steve Chan Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-dmpm-wg/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/Eyx-Ag Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday, 29 September 2015 Terri Agnew:Welcome to Data & Metrics for Policy Making Working Group on Tuesday, 29 September 2015 Marinel Rosca:Hello Graeme Bunton:My internet is being flakey, so if I disappear, thats likely why. Terri Agnew:thanks for the heads up Graeme Pam Little:Hi Everyone Pam Little:No objection, Berry. Gabriel Vergara:Noup Graeme Bunton:Pam and Sara should take a look at those too please Pam Little:"so long a required" should be so long asequired. Pam Little:Not sure about the last bullet though. Pam Little:If it is sensitive, why not just refuse to provide the data. Berry Cobb:Made the typo correction. Terri Agnew:@Graeme your audio is cutting out, please let me know if a dial out would be helpful Graeme Bunton:yes please terri Gabriel Vergara:I was wondering about that cause anyway there are ways to anonumize sensitive data hashing it to make it uinique. so those tools can be suggested and are really not rocket science Pam Little:that should work, Berry. Pam Little:Thanks. Graeme Bunton:Now on the line Graeme Bunton:all good, thanks berry Sara Bockey:thanks

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List of Data/Metrics Resources
by Berry Cobb Sept. 29, 2015

Sept. 29, 2015

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DMPM Agenda - 29 Sept 2015 @ 21:00 UTC
by Berry Cobb Sept. 29, 2015

Sept. 29, 2015

WG Members, NOTE - new time at 21:00 UTC to avoid any future clashes with CCWG. Below is the agenda for Tuesday's meeting attached with the latest version of the Public Comment Review Tool. I've updated the latest PCRT with WG response and actions based on the group's deliberations in our last call. Proposed Agenda - Data and Metrics for Policy Making - 29 Sept 2015 @ 21:00 UTC 1. Roll Call / Statements of Interest 2. Review draft-final of PCRT (Attached) 3. Review next draft of Final Report 4. Discuss submission of report to GNSO Council in time for Dublin Thank you. B Berry A. Cobb Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers 720.839.5735 mail(a)berrycobb.com @berrycobb

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Attendance and MP3 DMPM call 22 September 2015 at 21:00 UTC
by Terri Agnew Sept. 23, 2015

Sept. 23, 2015

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for Data and Metrics for Policy Making Working Group call on Tuesday, 22 September 2015 at 21:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-dmpm-22sep15-en.mp3<http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=NrFWbrBstcrPWP369qgbqlXiSKeL20xnUXz…> On page:http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#s<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#sep>ep<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#sep> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Cheryl Langdon-Orr - At-Large Jonathan Zuck - IPC Pam Little - RySG Tony Onorato - Individual Sara Bockey - RrSG Graeme Bunton - RrSG Marinel Rosca - Individual Apologies: none ICANN staff: Berry Cobb Steve Chan Nathalie Peregrine Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-dmpm-wg/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/Eyx-Ag Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday, 22 September 2015 Nathalie Peregrine:Welcome to the DMPM meeting on Tuesday, 22 September 2015, at 9:00pm UTC. Pam Little:Hi everyone Marinel Rosca:Hello Graeme Bunton:Just FYI, I may need to drop when furnace maintenance dude shows up. Terri Agnew:Thanks for the update Graeme Jonathan Zuck (IPC):Hello everyone Berry Cobb:@Graeme, furnace for the deck? Jonathan Zuck (IPC):I always just wait until :05 ;) Jonathan Zuck (IPC):darn. audio just went out on adobe Graeme Bunton:Still on my list! Jonathan Zuck (IPC):agree Tony Onorato:agreement it is Jonathan Zuck (IPC):yes. agreement. I think we already included language about this and it's not like we're recommending doing away with subjective measures Jonathan Zuck (IPC):qualitative = subjective. If objective, it's measurable. Jonathan Zuck (IPC):agree Graeme Bunton:Oop. gotta drop. thanks alll Jonathan Zuck (IPC):we don't have a way to do that Jonathan Zuck (IPC):yes. all about reducing costs, etc. but scoping is so hard for us to do generically Tony Onorato:agree completely Jonathan Zuck (IPC):or at least make it lower case ;) Jonathan Zuck (IPC):yeah, we were NOTICED! Sara Bockey:thanks everyone Tony Onorato:Thanks everyone!

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Attendance and MP3 DMPM call 15 September 2015 at 21:00 UTC
by Terri Agnew Sept. 16, 2015

Sept. 16, 2015

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for Data and Metrics for Policy Making Working Group call on Tuesday, 15 September 2015 at 21:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-dmpm-15sep15-en.mp3<http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=NrFWbrBstcrPWP369qgbqlXiSKeL20xnUXz…> On page:http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#s<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#sep>ep<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#sep> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Cheryl Langdon-Orr - At-Large Jonathan Zuck - IPC Pam Little - RySG Tony Onorato - Individual Sara Bockey - RrSG Sonigitu Ekpe - NCUC Graeme Bunton - RrSG Benjamin Akinmoyeje- NCUC Janvier Ngnoulaye - Afrinic Nenad Orlic - ISPCP Apologies: none ICANN staff: Berry Cobb Steve Chan Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-dmpm-wg/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/Eyx-Ag Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew Adobe Connect chat transcript for Tuesday, 15 September 2015 Terri Agnew:Welcome to the Data & Metrics for Policy Making Working Group teleconference on 15th September 2015. Sonigitu Ekpe:Greetings to All! Terri Agnew:@Sonigitu your audio seems to be breaking up Jonathan Zuck (IPC):sorry. trying to get my microphone working CLO:terri still an add noisy line Graeme Bunton:Sonigitu, could you mute your line please? CLO:sadly missed but this new schedule shiuld work we may have to do a longer call or two Sonigitu Ekpe:I need to mute my mic for now. CLO:unsync the doc? CLO:OK NP you know me I'm a tad impationet Berry ;-) Sonigitu Ekpe:My mic seems to be faulty Sonigitu Ekpe:I have been trying to mute but it seems not working CLO:I like that we have 'stolen' the best bits methodologies from other CWG's it goes to "continuous improvement" Jonathan Zuck (IPC):makes sense CLO:all good Terri Agnew:Welcome Benjamin Akinmoyeje Benjamin Akinmoyeje (Nigeria):thank you Terri Jonathan Zuck (IPC):makes sense Terri Agnew:Welcome Janvier Ngnoulaye Jonathan Zuck (IPC):agree Janvier Ngnoulaye:Thank you Terri Pam Little:Qualitative data is much harder to define, collect or interpret... Jonathan Zuck (IPC):and we use it a LOT now. improvements can be had but to date we haven't used quantative data sucessfully Sonigitu Ekpe:Where do Open data come in CLO:Pam there are Survey COmpanies Big Pulse (who already work with ICANN Included) that do this day by day for lots of topics though... yes it is an artform though CLO:True Jonathan VERY true! CLO:perfect example CLO:thx CLO:looks like an agree from us ... note it and make the slight changes to the template as Berry suggests Pam Little:+ 1 CLO:we could NOTE thst nd YE a Hints and Tips would be gret ! Jonathan Zuck (IPC):works for me Janvier Ngnoulaye:+1 Sonigitu Ekpe:+1 CLO:no Pam Little:Agreed, Jonathan. Tony onorato:finally got into Adobe connect mobile +1 Pam Little:Contracted parties may have concern about this. CLO:not make the recommendation but rather recognise the need to keep this (even as a management of the procurement process) way in the future Sara Bockey:+1 @Pam CLO:Ys I beleive we will ALWAYS need 3rd parties , thus my return to support the retainers suggestions from this comment Terri Agnew:Welcome Nenad Orlic Pam Little:+ 1 CLO:That is tru so AGreement and 'embellishment " ;-) CLO:true Berry that needs a fix CLO:I agreed with your points Berry so Yes to FIX/ update Jonathan Zuck (IPC):Mercedes version. Nice! Jonathan Zuck (IPC):it's not there yet Jonathan Zuck (IPC):agree CLO:LOL I prefer the DB7 or maybe a Vanquish... to the Lambo anyway ;-) Jonathan Zuck (IPC):yeah, I Think we use the same response but this is generally supportive CLO:agree Jonathan Pam Little:I believe Google is a member of the BC. Jonathan Zuck (IPC):seeing it in 12 as well Pam Little:So do we count that as two comments or one comment from Google? Jonathan Zuck (IPC):two but with the same response to each CLO:They are`2 comments IMO Jonathan Zuck (IPC):indeed but we have to assume the BC had the chance to review Jonathan Zuck (IPC):whew Jonathan Zuck (IPC):aside from that CLO:indeed! Jonathasn still parsing Pam Little:yes Jonathan Zuck (IPC):good job people! CLO:lots covered more next eek :-) Tony onorato:terrific thanks berry Jonathan Zuck (IPC):I had a 2am call this morning and a 5 hour meeting with George so yeah, I can stop here Benjamin Akinmoyeje (Nigeria):Yes I learnt a lot tonight Jonathan Zuck (IPC):thanks for all the staff work making this manageable! CLO:Thanks Berry Sara Bockey:thank you everyone! Pam Little:Thanks to Berry and ICANN staff. Nenad Orlić:bye Pam Little:Excellent support. Benjamin Akinmoyeje (Nigeria):thanx Benjamin Akinmoyeje (Nigeria):thanx CLO:bye

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DMPM Agenda - 15 Sept 2015 @ 21:00 UTC
by Berry Cobb Sept. 13, 2015

Sept. 13, 2015

WG Members, NOTE - new time at 21:00 UTC to avoid any future clashes with CCWG. Below is the agenda for next Tuesday's meeting attached with the latest version of the Public Comment Review Tool. We received 9 comments from the community. Please try to review all the comment prior to the call and be prepared to discuss the WG's response and actions to take, if any. We have until the 14th of September to submit the WG's Final Report. Proposed Agenda - Data and Metrics for Policy Making - 15 Sept 2015 @ 21:00 UTC 1. Roll Call / Statements of Interest 2. Review submitted comments (http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-data-metrics-29jul15/) 3. Discuss submission of report to GNSO Council in time for Dublin Thank you. B Berry A. Cobb Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers 720.839.5735 mail(a)berrycobb.com @berrycobb

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[Dmpm] - Doodle Poll for Next Meeting
by Steve Chan Sept. 10, 2015

Sept. 10, 2015

Dear WG Members, The call that was rescheduled for today, Tuesday at 22:00 UTC was cancelled due to lack of participants, though staff would note that this was in large part due to the last second change to the meeting time, so apologies for those changes. Staff would also note that several WG Members signed into the call after the decision was made to cancel and reschedule for another day. We have created a Doodle poll with a few options, where the hope is to conduct a 90 minute call and be able to get through all comments in the Public Comment Review Tool and give ourselves the chance to meet the GNSO Council motions and documents deadline of 14 September, which would allow for Council consideration of the WG¹s Final Report during its 24 September Council meeting. Doodle Poll: http://doodle.com/poll/d3cuf8eku6399ba5 Best, Steve Steven Chan Sr. Policy Manager ICANN 12025 Waterfront Drive, Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094-2536 steve.chan(a)icann.org <mailto:steve.chan@icann.org> direct: +1.310.301.3886 mobile: +1.310.339.4410 tel: +1.310.301.5800 fax: +1.310.823.8649

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Re: [Gnso-dmpm-wg] DMPM Agenda - 8 Sept 2015 @ 22:00 UTC - Time CHANGE
by Berry Cobb Sept. 8, 2015

Sept. 8, 2015

All, Apologies for the last minute schedule change. In the desire to make our 14 Sept delivery date, we will now have the call at 22:00 UTC. A few members could not make the 21:00 time slot and we must avoid the CCWG conflict with 20:00 B Berry Cobb Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN) 720.839.5735 mail(a)berrycobb.com @berrycobb From: Berry Cobb [mailto:mail@berrycobb.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 08:11 To: 'dmpm(a)icann.kavi.com'; 'gnso-dmpm-wg(a)icann.org' Subject: RE: DMPM Agenda - 8 Sept 2015 @ 21:00 UTC - Time CHANGE Importance: High I was just advised of the conflict with hour #2 of CCWG. We will move the DMPM call to 21:00 UTC. Expect to see the formal invite shortly. Apologies for the confusion. B Berry A. Cobb Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers 720.839.5735 mail(a)berrycobb.com @berrycobb From: Berry Cobb [mailto:mail@berrycobb.com] Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 16:56 To: 'dmpm(a)icann.kavi.com'; 'gnso-dmpm-wg(a)icann.org' Subject: DMPM Agenda - 8 Sept 2015 @ 20:00 UTC WG Members, Below is the agenda for next Tuesday's meeting attached with the latest version of the Public Comment Review Tool. We received 9 comments from the community. Please try to review all the comment prior to the call and be prepared to discuss the WG's response and actions to take, if any. We have until the 14th of September to submit the WG's Final Report. Proposed Agenda - Data and Metrics for Policy Making - 08 Sept 2015 @ 20:00 UTC 1. Roll Call / Statements of Interest 2. Review submitted comments (http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-data-metrics-29jul15/) 3. Discuss submission of report to GNSO Council Thank you. B Berry A. Cobb Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers 720.839.5735 mail(a)berrycobb.com @berrycobb

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Re: [Gnso-dmpm-wg] DMPM Agenda - 8 Sept 2015 @ 21:00 UTC - Time CHANGE
by Berry Cobb Sept. 8, 2015

Sept. 8, 2015

I was just advised of the conflict with hour #2 of CCWG. We will move the DMPM call to 21:00 UTC. Expect to see the formal invite shortly. Apologies for the confusion. B Berry A. Cobb Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers 720.839.5735 <mailto:mail@berrycobb.com> mail(a)berrycobb.com @berrycobb From: Berry Cobb [mailto:mail@berrycobb.com] Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 16:56 To: 'dmpm(a)icann.kavi.com'; 'gnso-dmpm-wg(a)icann.org' Subject: DMPM Agenda - 8 Sept 2015 @ 20:00 UTC WG Members, Below is the agenda for next Tuesday's meeting attached with the latest version of the Public Comment Review Tool. We received 9 comments from the community. Please try to review all the comment prior to the call and be prepared to discuss the WG's response and actions to take, if any. We have until the 14th of September to submit the WG's Final Report. Proposed Agenda - Data and Metrics for Policy Making - 08 Sept 2015 @ 20:00 UTC 1. Roll Call / Statements of Interest 2. Review submitted comments (http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-data-metrics-29jul15/) 3. Discuss submission of report to GNSO Council Thank you. B Berry A. Cobb Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers 720.839.5735 mail(a)berrycobb.com @berrycobb

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