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UPDATE on RPM sessions at ICANN60
by Mary Wong Oct. 25, 2017

Oct. 25, 2017

Dear all, Staff is pleased to provide the following information on the topics to be covered during each of the four sessions that have been allocated to our Working Group at ICANN60. This update follows consultations with our co-chairs and the discussion at the initial part of the repurposed Working Group meeting this past Wednesday. Saturday 28 October, 15.15-16.45: Data Sub Team Working Session * This session will be a full working session for the Data Sub Team, which has begun reviewing the Sunrise and Trademark Claims data request recently approved by the GNSO Council with a view toward developing clarifications and specific guidance regarding the proposed surveys for the survey designer to be selected through an ICANN Request for Proposals (RFP). * The session will be open to all to attend. As it is a working session for the Sub Team, you may wish to consider if you have specific input on the various aspects of the data request – please see the updated documents and notes from the Sub Team calls posted at https://community.icann.org/x/fZREB. Saturday 28 October, 17.00-18.30: Staff presentation & Working Group discussion – Overview of the Uniform Rapid Suspension procedure (URS); initial staff data findings on URS cases * In view of the timeline for Phase One of this PDP, the co-chairs have suggested that the Working Group turn its attention to the URS while the data gathering for Sunrise and Trademark Claims takes place. As with the other RPMs, this will commence with a brief overview of the URS presented by ICANN staff, as a framework for staff’s presentation of the initial data we have compiled about URS cases filed and decided up to June 2017. * The data findings will be presented in a similar format to that which was used for the Sunrise Registration data; similarly, staff will update and refine the tables and data following Working Group review and discussion. Monday 30 October, 15.15-16.45: Meeting with the Competition, Consumer Protection & Consumer Trust (CCT) Review Team * The CCT Review Team is preparing its final recommendations, which includes a section on RPMs. Their preliminary report (issued in March 2017) had included some initial recommendations concerning RPMs that implicate our PDP work. The CCT Review Team is expected to brief our Working Group on their likely final RPM recommendations at this meeting. Thursday 2 November, 13.30-15.00: Working Group and Community Feedback Session on Experiences with the URS * This session follows up on the introductory Saturday session. Working Group and community members are invited to provide direct feedback on their experiences with the URS, to inform the Working Group’s review of the Charter questions for the URS. * As was the case with the TMCH, Sunrise and Trademark Claims, the Working Group is expected to form a Sub Team to review and refine the URS Charter questions for further Working Group consideration. With the exception of the Thursday session (which will be held in Capital Suite 1), all other sessions will be held in Hall A, Section B/C. All sessions are open to all interested attendees and community members. Adobe Connect remote participation facilities and dial-in conference bridge will be available – please see this page, compiled by the GNSO Secretariat, for all remote participation information for all GNSO-related sessions at ICANN60: https://community.icann.org/x/7ichB. All sessions will, as usual, also be recorded and transcribed. Wishing all who are traveling to Abu Dhabi safe and uneventful journeys, and looking forward to further discussions with everyone at our ICANN60 sessions, Mary From: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> Date: Friday, October 13, 2017 at 15:09 To: "gnso-rpm-wg(a)icann.org" <gnso-rpm-wg(a)icann.org> Subject: RPM sessions at ICANN60 (re: Action Items from 11 October Working Group Call) Dear all, Following up on one of the staff action items (below), here is the information on the dates and times of the various RPM Working Group sessions scheduled for ICANN60: * Saturday 28 October 2017, 15:15 – 18:30 (all times listed are local to Abu Dhabi): Working Group open session (two 90-minute sessions, with a 15-minute break at 16.45; in Hall B Section B/C) * Monday 30 October 2017, 15:15 – 16:45: Working Group open session (in Hall A Section B/C) * Thursday 02 November 2017, 13:30 – 15:00: Working Group open session (in Capital Suite 1) In addition, the following related sessions may be of interest: * Sunday 29 October 2017, 9:45-10:15: PDP Update in Hall B Section B/C (part of the full-day GNSO Working Sessions, where each Working Group leadership team provides a status update to the GNSO Council and community, and answers questions about the PDP work. Phil will be doing the update from our Working Group.) * Tuesday 31 October 2017, 17:00-17:45: GAC Discussion on RPMs in Hall 3 (this is an open session run by the GAC; all are welcome to observe.) The GNSO Secretariat will, as always, compile information about remote participation facilities for all GNSO sessions. We will send out that information as soon as it is available. Note that for every session there will be a staff member in charge of managing the Adobe Connect meeting room to ensure that remote participants can contribute actively to the discussion going on in the physical meeting room. For ICANN60 and RPMs, those staff members will be me and Ariel Liang. The full ICANN60 meeting schedule, which you can customize your individual schedule and with links to the downloadable mobile app, is available at https://schedule.icann.org/. Thanks and cheers Mary From: <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund(a)icann.org> Date: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 at 18:20 To: "gnso-rpm-wg(a)icann.org" <gnso-rpm-wg(a)icann.org> Subject: [gnso-rpm-wg] Action Items from 11 October Working Group Call Dear all, The action items noted by staff from the Working Group call held today, Wednesday, 11 October, are as follows: 1. Staff Compilation of Sunrise Data: -- WG to consider and to provide feedback to staff: Is the data helpful and is there a different way (or additional ways) it should be presented that would be more helpful? Are there other types of data on Sunrise that you were expecting that staff can provide (assuming the existing sources used by staff contain that data)? Staff action items (Berry Cobb): -- add page number to the data presentation document -- consider removing the spec13 sunrise information as it has no meaning (Chart 3) -- find out whether Donuts opted in all its 238 TLDs for End Date Sunrise (Kathy Kleiman's question) -- consider using scatter diagram for Chart 3 to identify mean and median -- revise the minimal End Day Sunrise period to 67 days (additional 60 days) in Chart 5 -- consider adding variables and correlations for Chart 7-8, including types of registration, number of registration, lengths of sunrise period, etc. Draw data from the column format or add to spreadsheet (Attachment 2) 2. Next Steps/Next Meeting: -- Staff to circulate to the mailing list of times/dates of the RPMs sessions at ICANN60, including remote participation details; in the next RPMs meeting on 18 Oct, preparation for ICANN60 sessions likely to be the main discussion item, including chairing logistics The notes from the call will be posted shortly to the Working Group wiki space, together with the call recording, transcript and Adobe Connect chat and attendance records. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

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ICANN60: GNSO Sessions How to Get Organized and Remote Participation Details
by Nathalie Peregrine Oct. 17, 2017

Oct. 17, 2017

Dear all, The one-stop wiki page for all your Remote Participation queries is now available. This wiki page covers remote participation details for all GNSO open and public meetings. In addition to this, ICANN meetings’ team has put together a new ICANN meeting website which allows you to download all GNSO-related meetings to your inbox calendar in one go. 2 LINKS TO BOOKMARK NOW: ICANN60 Meeting Schedule[schedule.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__schedule.icann.org_&d=…> GNSO Remote Participation wiki page<https://community.icann.org/x/7ichB> Step 1 – Create a profile and your personalized ICANN60 schedule Go to the Meeting Schedule webpage, and if not done yet for previous meetings, create a profile and login. Every session on the schedule can be selected and added to your individual schedule. By clicking to the left of each meeting, this adds it to your individual schedule which you can then email to yourself or add to your calendar. See next step. Step 2 At the top right-hand corner of the page click on the ‘Mobile App + ical” icon to download the mobile app and choose from various options how to sync your personalized schedule to your phone or laptop calendars. Step 3 All Adobe Connect rooms (which can be found on the session information on the Meeting Schedule and on the GNSO Remote Participation wiki page) will provide audio streaming. If you cannot join an Adobe Connect room for a session, and will need to dial in with your phone, please refer to the GNSO Remote Participation wiki page for the audio pass codes and dial in numbers. Please also follow the previous steps if you wish to take part in the session over the phone. Nathalie Peregrine and Terri Agnew will be onsite to assist you directly. For all GNSO meeting related queries (RP or others), please email us at: gnso-secs(a)icann.org<applewebdata://FB60497E-61D8-4FE9-BF9C-EB238191E416/gnso-secs@icann.org> and we will be more than happy to assist! Kind regards, GNSO SO/AC Support team Nathalie Peregrine Manager, Operations Support (GNSO) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: nathalie.peregrine(a)icann.org <nathalie.peregrine(a)icann.org%20> Skype: nathalie.peregrine.icann Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses<applewebdata://EB3A6F47-9760-400D-A39B-A7EFFC56B467/learn.icann.org/courses…> and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_sites_gn…>

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PLEASE READ: Repurposing this week's Working Group call
by Mary Wong Oct. 16, 2017

Oct. 16, 2017

Dear all, Following consultation with the newly formed Data Sub Team, the Working Group co-chairs wish to propose repurposing the call this Wednesday into a meeting for the Sub Team. Except, therefore, for the first 10-15 minutes of the call which will focus on outlining the proposed topics for discussion at each of the four 90-minute sessions our Working Group will have at ICANN60, the remainder of the call will be taken up by a meeting of the Sub Team. Interested members are invited to join the call to provide input to the Sub Team as they prepare for their work, but it will not be a full Working Group meeting where attendance (other than for Sub Team members) is recorded. Of course, as with all Working Group and Sub Team calls, the call will be fully recorded and transcribed, and the recording and transcript posted afterwards. Please let staff know if you have any questions. Thank you! Cheers Mary

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RPM sessions at ICANN60 (re: Action Items from 11 October Working Group Call)
by Mary Wong Oct. 13, 2017

Oct. 13, 2017

Dear all, Following up on one of the staff action items (below), here is the information on the dates and times of the various RPM Working Group sessions scheduled for ICANN60: * Saturday 28 October 2017, 15:15 – 18:30 (all times listed are local to Abu Dhabi): Working Group open session (two 90-minute sessions, with a 15-minute break at 16.45; in Hall B Section B/C) * Monday 30 October 2017, 15:15 – 16:45: Working Group open session (in Hall A Section B/C) * Thursday 02 November 2017, 13:30 – 15:00: Working Group open session (in Capital Suite 1) In addition, the following related sessions may be of interest: * Sunday 29 October 2017, 9:45-10:15: PDP Update in Hall B Section B/C (part of the full-day GNSO Working Sessions, where each Working Group leadership team provides a status update to the GNSO Council and community, and answers questions about the PDP work. Phil will be doing the update from our Working Group.) * Tuesday 31 October 2017, 17:00-17:45: GAC Discussion on RPMs in Hall 3 (this is an open session run by the GAC; all are welcome to observe.) The GNSO Secretariat will, as always, compile information about remote participation facilities for all GNSO sessions. We will send out that information as soon as it is available. Note that for every session there will be a staff member in charge of managing the Adobe Connect meeting room to ensure that remote participants can contribute actively to the discussion going on in the physical meeting room. For ICANN60 and RPMs, those staff members will be me and Ariel Liang. The full ICANN60 meeting schedule, which you can customize your individual schedule and with links to the downloadable mobile app, is available at https://schedule.icann.org/. Thanks and cheers Mary From: <gnso-rpm-wg-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund(a)icann.org> Date: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 at 18:20 To: "gnso-rpm-wg(a)icann.org" <gnso-rpm-wg(a)icann.org> Subject: [gnso-rpm-wg] Action Items from 11 October Working Group Call Dear all, The action items noted by staff from the Working Group call held today, Wednesday, 11 October, are as follows: 1. Staff Compilation of Sunrise Data: -- WG to consider and to provide feedback to staff: Is the data helpful and is there a different way (or additional ways) it should be presented that would be more helpful? Are there other types of data on Sunrise that you were expecting that staff can provide (assuming the existing sources used by staff contain that data)? Staff action items (Berry Cobb): -- add page number to the data presentation document -- consider removing the spec13 sunrise information as it has no meaning (Chart 3) -- find out whether Donuts opted in all its 238 TLDs for End Date Sunrise (Kathy Kleiman's question) -- consider using scatter diagram for Chart 3 to identify mean and median -- revise the minimal End Day Sunrise period to 67 days (additional 60 days) in Chart 5 -- consider adding variables and correlations for Chart 7-8, including types of registration, number of registration, lengths of sunrise period, etc. Draw data from the column format or add to spreadsheet (Attachment 2) 2. Next Steps/Next Meeting: -- Staff to circulate to the mailing list of times/dates of the RPMs sessions at ICANN60, including remote participation details; in the next RPMs meeting on 18 Oct, preparation for ICANN60 sessions likely to be the main discussion item, including chairing logistics The notes from the call will be posted shortly to the Working Group wiki space, together with the call recording, transcript and Adobe Connect chat and attendance records. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

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Reminder regarding Expected Standards of Behavior
by Terri Agnew Oct. 12, 2017

Oct. 12, 2017

Sent on behalf of the GNSO Council leadership team ================ Dear Colleagues - Several recent interactions on PDP working group calls and mailing lists have been referred to the GNSO Chairs (Heather, Donna, and I). After review, our level of concern is such that we felt a refresher on ICANN's Expected Standards of Behavior was warranted. A link to this document is provided below, but in general terms we are asking all participants in PDP working groups to elevate the level of discourse on calls and mailing lists to reflect a respectful and professional environment for our work. With this in mind, don't attack fellow volunteers personally, or question their motives, or presume to know their positions without giving them a chance to present it. Humor (especially sarcasm) doesn't go over well in emails or AC chat sessions, and usually doesn't translate at all. Refrain from escalating or retaliating to negative comments. And, above all, remember that our shared objective is not to "win" on any given issue, but to seek out and build upon areas of common understanding. The Expected Standards of Behavior can be found here: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2012-05-15-en <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resource s_pages_expected-2Dstandards-2D2012-2D05-2D15-2Den&d=DwMGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDA LC_lULrw&r=CwipU91YB6EkpFXK9ynnT_QUef4yC5p7jpsDm8cU97g&m=nLTnlCjpaKa0PAoZ3Oo 9Hth_qedPM7PZZR9XOAEmRW8&s=rifMmlUtCDfJQ-7waiDNprOF9hRGXjwUtK_MFiJDj4g&e=> . I know we're all accustomed to just "click through" this text when joining a meeting, but I'm now asking everyone take a minute to two to review it again. Thank you for your help with this matter. J. ---------------- James Bladel GNSO Chair

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Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] [Ext] Re: Action Items from 11 October Working Group Call
by Julie Hedlund Oct. 12, 2017

Oct. 12, 2017

Hello Maxim, Thank you for the very helpful clarification. I’ll amend the notes accordingly. Kind regards, Julie From: Maxim Alzoba <m.alzoba(a)gmail.com> Date: Thursday, October 12, 2017 at 3:10 AM To: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund(a)icann.org> Cc: "gnso-rpm-wg(a)icann.org" <gnso-rpm-wg(a)icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Action Items from 11 October Working Group Call Hello Julie, I think -- revise the minimal End Day Sunrise period to 67 days (additional 60 days) in Chart 5 should be " -- revise the End Date Sunrise periods to +60 days (additional 60 days) *in Chart 5 " with the footnote: *in the End Date Sunrise the prevailing party (when two or more parties applied for the same domain name) is decided by the end of the period, which can not be less than 60 days, so the period when parties can apply for the domain name is at least 60 days. If more than one party applied for the domain name, then the winner decided according to the policies and procedures of the TLD (such as auction e.t.c.). and additional footnote for Start Date Sunrise: in the Start Date Sunrise, Registry provides notification of such period in 30 days in advance, so the period when parties can start applying for the domain name starts in no less than 30 days after such a notification, the party applied first might have the domain registered for them (subject to the polices of the TLD, such as additional qualifications e.t.c.). I think it might allow the reader of the text to understand that 30 days from notification were actually part of the awareness period. Sincerely Yours, Maxim Alzoba Special projects manager, International Relations Department, FAITID m. +7 916 6761580(+whatsapp) skype oldfrogger Current UTC offset: +3.00 (.Moscow) On Oct 12, 2017, at 01:20, Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund(a)icann.org> wrote: Dear all, The action items noted by staff from the Working Group call held today, Wednesday, 11 October, are as follows: 1. Staff Compilation of Sunrise Data: -- WG to consider and to provide feedback to staff: Is the data helpful and is there a different way (or additional ways) it should be presented that would be more helpful? Are there other types of data on Sunrise that you were expecting that staff can provide (assuming the existing sources used by staff contain that data)? Staff action items (Berry Cobb): -- add page number to the data presentation document -- consider removing the spec13 sunrise information as it has no meaning (Chart 3) -- find out whether Donuts opted in all its 238 TLDs for End Date Sunrise (Kathy Kleiman's question) -- consider using scatter diagram for Chart 3 to identify mean and median -- revise the minimal End Day Sunrise period to 67 days (additional 60 days) in Chart 5 -- consider adding variables and correlations for Chart 7-8, including types of registration, number of registration, lengths of sunrise period, etc. Draw data from the column format or add to spreadsheet (Attachment 2) 2. Next Steps/Next Meeting: -- Staff to circulate to the mailing list of times/dates of the RPMs sessions at ICANN60, including remote participation details; in the next RPMs meeting on 18 Oct, preparation for ICANN60 sessions likely to be the main discussion item, including chairing logistics The notes from the call will be posted shortly to the Working Group wiki space, together with the call recording, transcript and Adobe Connect chat and attendance records. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director _______________________________________________ gnso-rpm-wg mailing list gnso-rpm-wg(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-rpm-wg

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Response from Nielsen re INTA Impact Study and WG follow-up questions.
by Lori Schulman Oct. 12, 2017

Oct. 12, 2017

Dear RPM Work Group Colleagues, Attached please find the responses from Neilsen to questions posed on the August 31, 2018 call regard INTA’s survey on the costs of the New gTLD program. The questions were pulled directly from the transcript and forwarded to Neilsen. The attached spreadsheet supplements the answers. Thank you to staff for combing the transcript and for George K for reminding that this deliverable was due to the group. Mary and Julie – would you kindly post to the wiki alongside the study and my presentation about the study. I think it would be helpful if everything is grouped together. Enjoy! Lori S. Schulman Senior Director, Internet Policy International Trademark Association (INTA) +1-202-704-0408, Skype: lsschulman [2017-esig] From: Lori Schulman Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 6:27 PM To: David.Taylor(a)hoganlovells.com Subject: Fwd: Response from Nielsen re RPM Review Group Questions FYI. Lori Schulman Senior Director, Internet Policy INTA +1(202)704-0408 Begin forwarded message: From: Lori Schulman <lschulman(a)inta.org<mailto:lschulman@inta.org>> Date: October 11, 2017 at 2:18:30 PM EDT To: "Michael Graham (ELCA) (migraham(a)expedia.com<mailto:migraham@expedia.com>)" <migraham(a)expedia.com<mailto:migraham@expedia.com>>, "Chicoine, Caroline" <Caroline.Chicoine(a)huschblackwell.com<mailto:Caroline.Chicoine@huschblackwell.com>>, "IPC-RPMREVIEW(a)icann.org<mailto:IPC-RPMREVIEW@icann.org>" <IPC-RPMREVIEW(a)icann.org<mailto:IPC-RPMREVIEW@icann.org>>, "J. Scott Evans" <jsevans(a)adobe.com<mailto:jsevans@adobe.com>> Cc: Sheila Francis <sfrancis(a)inta.org<mailto:sfrancis@inta.org>> Subject: Response from Nielsen re RPM Review Group Questions Dear All, Attached are Neilsen’s answers to the questions posed at the end of August. I am posting them to RPM list this evening but wanted you to have a copy first. Lori Lori Schulman Senior Director, Internet Policy International Trademark Association 1250 Connecticut Avenue, Suite 200 Washington DC, USA +1-202-704-0408, skype: lsschulman www.inta.org<http://www.inta.org/>

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Action Items from 11 October Working Group Call
by Julie Hedlund Oct. 11, 2017

Oct. 11, 2017

Dear all, The action items noted by staff from the Working Group call held today, Wednesday, 11 October, are as follows: 1. Staff Compilation of Sunrise Data: -- WG to consider and to provide feedback to staff: Is the data helpful and is there a different way (or additional ways) it should be presented that would be more helpful? Are there other types of data on Sunrise that you were expecting that staff can provide (assuming the existing sources used by staff contain that data)? Staff action items (Berry Cobb): -- add page number to the data presentation document -- consider removing the spec13 sunrise information as it has no meaning (Chart 3) -- find out whether Donuts opted in all its 238 TLDs for End Date Sunrise (Kathy Kleiman's question) -- consider using scatter diagram for Chart 3 to identify mean and median -- revise the minimal End Day Sunrise period to 67 days (additional 60 days) in Chart 5 -- consider adding variables and correlations for Chart 7-8, including types of registration, number of registration, lengths of sunrise period, etc. Draw data from the column format or add to spreadsheet (Attachment 2) 2. Next Steps/Next Meeting: -- Staff to circulate to the mailing list of times/dates of the RPMs sessions at ICANN60, including remote participation details; in the next RPMs meeting on 18 Oct, preparation for ICANN60 sessions likely to be the main discussion item, including chairing logistics The notes from the call will be posted shortly to the Working Group wiki space, together with the call recording, transcript and Adobe Connect chat and attendance records. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

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Recordings, Attendance, AC Chat for Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) PDP Working Group call on Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:00 UTC
by Terri Agnew Oct. 11, 2017

Oct. 11, 2017

Dear All, Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email. The MP3, Adobe Connect recording and Adobe Connect chat below for the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) PDP Working Group call held Wednesday, 11 October 2017at 17:00 UTC. Attendance of the call is posted on agenda wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/7IpEB MP3: https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-rpm-review-11oct17-en.mp3 Adobe Connect recording: <https://participate.icann.org/p4yarjh9sq0/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=e7a3e0ad59e75812 eb19f72c46929374e3ff7948a26ef4dfdf6de2363e5902f4> https://participate.icann.org/p4yarjh9sq0/ The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/> http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/ Main wiki page for the working group: <https://community.icann.org/x/wCWAAw> https://community.icann.org/x/wCWAAw Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Adobe Connect chat transcript for 11 October 2017: Terri Agnew:Welcome to the Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) in all gTLDs PDP Working Group on Wednesday, 11 October 2017 at 17:00 UTC for 90 minute duration. Terri Agnew:agneda wiki page: <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_ 7IpEB&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCI gmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=EQX2oP_h3dneSn5OhOUbr2L2gIRoGfHS_URDf2n8iWU &s=RtXnZB1mnV_CG37AgoFMSzu4maUqP_W22OP-mMRhGDM&e> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_7 IpEB&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIg mkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=EQX2oP_h3dneSn5OhOUbr2L2gIRoGfHS_URDf2n8iWU& s=RtXnZB1mnV_CG37AgoFMSzu4maUqP_W22OP-mMRhGDM&e= George Kirikos:Hi folks. Cyntia King:Hello, George! Poncelet Ileleji:Hello All George Kirikos:Hi Cyntia and Poncelet. Poncelet Ileleji:Hello George J. Scott Evans:Good morning, Good Afternoon, Good Evening all. Marie Pattullo:Bon soir! Cyntia King:Hey, J Scott! Philip Corwin:Welcome RPMers! Michael R Graham:Morning Ariel Liang:Hello everyone! Julie Hedlund:Hello everyone and glad to help! Scott Austin:Good afternoon. Cyntia King:Welcome Ariel & Julie! Hello Mary & Teri! Lori Schulman:Hi guys Lori Schulman:Can't wait to hear what I will voluntell for this week. :) George Kirikos:Doc is at: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/attachments/20171010/fc173bd9/Sta ffcompilationreport-Sunrisedata-3Oct2017-0001.pdf> http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rpm-wg/attachments/20171010/fc173bd9/Staf fcompilationreport-Sunrisedata-3Oct2017-0001.pdf if folks want to load it in a separate window. Kurt Pritz:Thank you George Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Hello All Terri Agnew:all can scroll themselves Mary Wong:Yes David McAuley:yes J. Scott Evans:yes Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):notebook keeps reloading , trying a smartphone Mary Wong:As Berry is saying, we are using the word "generic" in the IANA sense, not as the word may be viewed in trademark law parlance. George Kirikos:(would be nice to add page numbers to a future PDF, in one of the corners) Mary Wong:Thanks, George, we will note this Mary Wong:We have added links to the definitiional documents for what is a Start Date and End Date Sunrise. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):one of the versions - auctions and the other - first comes first served Maxim Alzoba (FAITID ):m name collisions was another story Mary Wong:We don't have the information available to know why some gTLDs don't have launch date information (as Berry said); note that Chart 1 listed them by date of delegation into the root zone. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):start date sunrsies = first comes first served, end date has auction as a method of resolution for situation, where two or more registrants wanted the same name George Kirikos:Some might have been cancelled, e.g. .doosan (which ICANN is using in its EBERO test). Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Spec13 sunrise info has no meaning, so I support Susan to excude this info Jonathan Frost (.CLUB):Agree J. Scott Evans:I agree with Susan. Susan Payne:thanks Berry Griffin Barnett:Spec 13 TLDs don;t need to run any Sunrise, so I agree - no reason to include Kathy Kleiman:@Barry, is the end date sunrise largely one registry owner? George Kirikos:.chloe was just cancelled recently, too, among others. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):@Kathy, end date for those who needed auctions instead of fast customers George Kirikos:https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__domainincite.com _21767-2Drichemont-2Dkills-2Doff-2Dtwo-2Dmore-2Ddot-2Dbrands&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1 u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn -H4xR2EBk&m=EQX2oP_h3dneSn5OhOUbr2L2gIRoGfHS_URDf2n8iWU&s=Uz8hAX0J_OLPOErEdo gp0uA45cep3W_28CtTwjkqVa4&e= (.chloe and .montblanc terminations) Jonathan Frost (.CLUB):From a registry perspective, the reason to use an end date is to provide an allocation mechanism when more than one rights holder attempts to register the domain. Jonathan Frost (.CLUB):Rather than a race to register Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):end date sunrise and two TM owners in TMCH ... highest bidder wins , and in start-dte -fstest one George Kirikos:One would want to cross-reference this with the numbers from THe Analysis Group, e.g. perhaps one type leads to more sunrise registrations than the other, all else being equal. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):in both 60 days is the requirement for the period (30+30 or 60) Susan Payne:@George, the AG data is fairly old because of the time at which they did their work. so I think it would be difficult to do the cross-ref you suggest wouldn't it? Jon Nevett:all George Kirikos:@Susan: right, one would need to update it using the ICANN monthly reports. George Kirikos:(i.e. the monthly registry reports) Kathy Kleiman:Tx Barry Mary Wong:Registry operators had the discretion to decide which type of Sunrise to do. The End Date Sunrise is a mechanism that is more familiar to many, so while we do not have the data as to why registry operators chose one over the other, that may be another reason. Susan Payne:@Kathy, Donuts don't have 385 registries so plenty of other registries would also have done end date Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):only registries might answer questions about why start-date vs. end-date. other parties do not have info Kathy Kleiman:@Jon Nevett - rather than talking around you, can we ask how many Sunrises had End Date Sunrises? Kathy Kleiman:All interesting! George Kirikos:Do we know how many TMCH strings have multiple owners? (ie, that's where it would make a difference, if there were multiple potential sunrise registrants) Mary Wong:@Maxim, yes, exactly. We don't have the information to do more than suggest a number of reasons at the moment. Jon Nevett:we launched 195 I think George Kirikos:If each TMCH string had only 1 registrant, it wouldn't make a difference. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):It was business decision of a registry - not anything esle Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):@George it would lead to TMCH auctions:) George Kirikos:@Maxim: right, presumably fanciful marks like "Google", "Exxon" or "Verizon" wouldn't face that issue, though. Kathy Kleiman:@Jon: tx1 George Kirikos:@Jon: with the Rightside acquisition, "we" is a little bit larger now. :-) George Kirikos:238 for Donots (with Rightside) according to: <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ntldstats.com_registry _group&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpC IgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=EQX2oP_h3dneSn5OhOUbr2L2gIRoGfHS_URDf2n8iW U&s=g-BMcy2s8f1aLvbhe5353hfIAYzDfr1r0bj7lkFQMv4&e> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ntldstats.com_registry_ group&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCI gmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=EQX2oP_h3dneSn5OhOUbr2L2gIRoGfHS_URDf2n8iWU &s=g-BMcy2s8f1aLvbhe5353hfIAYzDfr1r0bj7lkFQMv4&e= Jon Nevett:@ george donuts didn't launch the RS names George Kirikos:@Jon: right, but now Donuts is inclusive of Rightside, part of the same group. George Kirikos:i.e. the "new Donuts" = "the old Donuts" + "Rightside" Jon Nevett:I'm aware George, but the question was how many sunrises we did Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Delay = Digital archery + TMCH+Name collisons+Glitches ... Kurt Pritz:Thanks Berry - When redesigning: Chart 5 might be better as a scatter diagram - or identifying mean and median Berry Cobb:@Kurt - yes, good idea George Kirikos:I don't really think Amazon/Google's delays can be explained away that way, e.g. <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ntldstats.com_registry _Charleston-2DRoad-2DRegistry-2DInc&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS 6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=EQX2oP_h3dneS n5OhOUbr2L2gIRoGfHS_URDf2n8iWU&s=8KuED27OqWpznzS8NThhdTgPTfx5hBuHfozzwKbXmYQ &e> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ntldstats.com_registry_ Charleston-2DRoad-2DRegistry-2DInc&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6 sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=EQX2oP_h3dneSn 5OhOUbr2L2gIRoGfHS_URDf2n8iWU&s=8KuED27OqWpznzS8NThhdTgPTfx5hBuHfozzwKbXmYQ& e= (Google) George Kirikos:https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ntldstats.com_r egistry_group_Amazon-2DRegistry-2DServices-2DInc&d=DwICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwl l3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m= EQX2oP_h3dneSn5OhOUbr2L2gIRoGfHS_URDf2n8iWU&s=LLU9Xk0QU-wMV5FiUzaQLpFGvkNPp5 d-F2-i6OPrsaQ&e= (Amazon's strings) Susan Payne:@George, what's your point? of relevance to a review of the RPMs Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):if we decide to have question about this chart - add "was the delay intentional ?" Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):*chart 5 Jonathan Frost (.CLUB):+1 to Maxim. The Working Group is behind its charter schedule. I think we have a duty not to delay at this point. George Kirikos:Once those 100+ TLDs actually launch, the numbers might change, perhaps markedly. Mary Wong:All, to the extent there is agreement to include a question about "time to sunrise launch (from delegation date)" to the registry operator survey, it will be really helpful to relate it to the specific Charter question(s) the group is going to be discussing. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):lots of .CORE GEO domains had almost year of waiting due to ALP not working ... it was delivered to WG during the previous F2F by Abril George Kirikos:@Susan: my point was that the data is still a work in progress. George Kirikos:And so that could change the numbers. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):.MADRID too Susan Payne:@George all data is a WIP where you have a moving marketplace Susan Payne:@Berry just to be clear my comment wasn't a criticism of your work, which is really useful. I just didn't want you to spend a great deal of time drilling deeper if it doesn't really advance the consideration of the RPM requirements Berry Cobb:@Susan - << wasn't taken that way. I enjoy all feedback Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):also some delays were due to 120 days of name collisions (minimal) George Kirikos:+1 Mary. It'll eventually have more columns to that spreadsheet. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):sorry, old hand George Kirikos:Number of registrars could be obtained from the ICANN monthly reports. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):number of registrars could be 0 to max number of registrars in IANA George Kirikos:How did they delegate nic.shabaka ? :-) Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):there is no obligation to have a contract with the third party Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):@George - Registries have to delegate nic.TLD under RA Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):with 9998 or 9999 as IANA ID number in WHOIS Griffin Barnett:ie self-allocation George Kirikos:@Maxim: right, just wondering if they did that without a registrar to manage it through, or just put it directly into the root for themselves. Susan Payne:to go to Claudio's point - the RA has been amended to address this George Kirikos:Directly into the zone, rather. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):@George, Registry have right for this nic.TLD to put themself, and the same for up to 100 names Mary Wong:Thanks very much, Kurt, that is exactly it. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):in Charter 6 - 60 day of end date is minimum according to RPMs, and for start date - 30 days of notice in advance + 30 days mininum duration of sunrsie Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):+ not all days were allowed to have start/end moments Susan Payne:I think it would be better to filter out the spec 13 for this as they skew the numbers a little Griffin Barnett:agree Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):they usefull info would be for SPEC13 - was SPEC 13 executed before the sunrise or after Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):to understand how many decided to change their mind George Kirikos:Berry answered the question I was going to ask. :-) Griffin Barnett:are there any new gTLDs that executed Spec 13 after launching as an open tld> Susan Payne:but Maxim if the registry allocated names to third parties they wouldn't be eligible to adopt spec 13 George Kirikos:Actually, new question (new hand). Susan Payne:so cannot have run an open sunrise Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):spec 13 was approved on 26mar2014, and some TLDs launched earlier Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__newgtlds.icann .org_en_announcements-2Dand-2Dmedia_announcement-2D14apr14-2Den&d=DwICaQ&c=F mY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0A Ign-H4xR2EBk&m=EQX2oP_h3dneSn5OhOUbr2L2gIRoGfHS_URDf2n8iWU&s=nQzKlTiAPDXWiRV z6Dw-KJc_SyUmK8iTpzMvyx9XoMw&e= Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):@Susan, they could have 0 registrars sunrise David McAuley:Nice presentation Berry Griffin Barnett:@maxim, just bc spec 13 was approved after some new gTLDs launched doesn't mean there were any that launched as open and later executed Spec 13... Susan Payne:but then they didn't really run a sunrise Maxim Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):formally 0 registrars sunrise was elegible Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Registries had to have sunrise, not RRA executed Griffin Barnett:might be interesting to see some data on new gTLDs that technically ran a sunrise but without any accredited registrars Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):also many registrars did not want to implement sunrise in their SRS Berry Cobb:I was just trying to fit it on as few pages for viewing. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):and executed RRA only after end of sunrise Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):to avoid it Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):aand only after end of Claims (due to issues with integration) Berry Cobb:@George: Understood. It is that way in the raw spreadsheet. Kathy Kleiman:Tx you, Barry, for all of your work, and this discussion of these charts! George Kirikos:Thanks, Berry. Is the raw spreadsheet on the wiki? Berry Cobb:and as the WG wants to add more info from claims, etcs, other data sources we can add to that. George Kirikos:(and the raw wiki will continue to have more columns, as we get more data sources, presumably) George Kirikos:raw spreadsheet, rather Berry Cobb:@George: at this time, no it is not because it does contain information that the WG should not be revealed. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):that is why I refferenced to .zurich as not so good example Susan Payne:yes i think the graphs are helpful Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):charts and numbers were fine - simplified understanding Scott Austin:very helpful Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):+1 Kurt Kurt Pritz:pretty much Poncelet Ileleji:The graphically data very helpful Terri Agnew:next meeting: Review of all Rights Protection Mechanisms (RPMs) in all gTLDs PDP Working Group is scheduled for Wednesday, 18 October 2017 at 17:00 UTC for 90 minutes. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):the week after this week and after ICANN is going to be lost due to transit Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):*ICANN meeting Mary Wong:@Maxim, yes, as is customary. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):deputy co-chairs? claudio:what are our WG goals to accomplish during icann60? George Kirikos:Bye folks. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):bye all Griffin Barnett:thanks all, bye J. Scott Evans:thanks berry. thanks all. Greg Shatan:Bye all. David McAuley:Good bye all, thanks Berry Ariel Liang:thank you all Susan Payne:thanks all. thanks Berry Scott Austin:thanks all

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Document for RPM Working Group call on Wednesday 11 October
by Mary Wong Oct. 10, 2017

Oct. 10, 2017

Dear all, Picking up from where the last Working Group call ended, and pending any other instructions from the co-chairs, we are recirculating the attached staff compilation on Sunrise registration data that was sent last week, preparatory to it being presented and discussed on the call scheduled for this week. Thanks and cheers Mary From: Mary Wong <mary.wong(a)icann.org> Date: Wednesday, October 4, 2017 at 00:36 To: "gnso-rpm-wg(a)icann.org" <gnso-rpm-wg(a)icann.org> Subject: Agenda and documents for RPM Working Group call on Wednesday 4 October Dear all, Here is the proposed agenda for the Working Group call scheduled for 1700 UTC on Wednesday 4 October 2017: 1. Roll call (via Adobe Connect and phone bridge only); updates to Statements of Interest 2. Complete discussion of Additional Marketplace RPM questions, and agree on next steps 3. Staff presentation and Working Group discussion of initial staff compilation of Sunrise registration data 4. Next steps/next meeting For Agenda Item #2, staff has updated the Additional Marketplace RPMs document from last week, based on the discussion on the last call – please see the attached document. We note that the Working Group discussion last week ended at Question 2 under Section V on Page 5. The call this week will continue to cover the following topic that was not addressed on the call last week due to lack of time: * The co-chairs’ suggestion of the creation of a small, fast-moving subgroup to: * Review the list of data wanted and needed for Additional Marketplace Protections Questions, with input of the WG meeting, looking at the information staff provided at the end of last week on the Additional Marketplace RPMs provided by Donuts, M+M and Rightside; and sharing with WG which questions these appear to address (in whole or in part); and * Review the approved data request in light of the Council’s additional direction for us to maximize the value of the data gathered with recommendations for the WG of revisions or changes. * Assuming there is general agreement on this approach, a Call for Volunteers will start following this call. The Working Group co-chairs would like to ask the chairs of the Sunrise and Trademark Claims Sub Teams (Lori Schulman, Kristine Dorrain and Michael Graham) to participate, and encourage Working Group members familiar with survey work to join as well. In addition, there was some discussion on the last call over where and how to find information on the Additional Marketplace RPMs currently being offered by some registry operators. The Working Group co-chairs have asked staff to recirculate the staff-prepared summary of that information. Please be sure to review the document for information on the current Additional Marketplace RPMs, which can be found here: https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/71598243/Current%20AddlMkt… Finally, for Agenda Item #3, please find attached a set of charts concerning Sunrise registration data that staff will take the Working Group through in detail on the call. Please note the following: * The document is lengthy, but for purposes of the presentation and discussion on the call, we will be focusing only on the eight charts on the first seven pages. The remainder of the document is the actual data for each new gTLD relating to its type, delegation date and Sunrise dates and duration. * This is only the initial results of staff compilation of data related to Sunrise registrations that is available in the form of the reports provided to ICANN by registries, registrars and IBM as the TMCH Database provider. We anticipate refining these results further, and possibly adding more informational charts, depending on the Working Group’s questions and suggestions following the staff presentation. * ICANN does not collect or require the reporting of Sunrise pricing or the launch dates, pricing and usage of Additional Marketplace RPMs such as Protected Marks List services. Thanks and cheers Mary

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