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Nomcom Deadline Approaching -- Get your applications in!
by Beau Brendler March 31, 2012

March 31, 2012

Greetings, NA-Region... The deadline is rapidly approaching for the next year's nom com representative position from North America. The nom com is a vital part of ensuring a diverse range of people from different walks of life join the ICANN community. If you are not interested, perhaps you know someone who might be. We need a strong showing from the region! It all starts here: http://nomcom.icann.org Thanks! Beau

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Re: [NA-Discuss] [community] North-American Regional At-Large Organization (NARALO) > NARALO Video Project
by Joly MacFie March 29, 2012

March 29, 2012

Not content with hacking the world, Anonymous is now using our confluence to hawk designer handbags. On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Anonymous (Confluence) <no-reply(a)icann.org > wrote: > NARALO Video Project<https://community.icann.org/display/NARALO/NARALO+Video+Project?focusedComm…> Page > *comment added* by Anonymous > > Zen will be a senior<h1><a href=" > http://www.louisvuittonpursess.com/"title="Louis Vuitton Purses">Louis > Vuitton Purses</a></h1> > <https://community.icann.org/display/NARALO/NARALO+Video+Project?replyToComm…> > <snip> -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- -

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Re: [NA-Discuss] [offlist] Concerning the NeuStar ~ New York City "public hearing"
by Joly MacFie March 27, 2012

March 27, 2012

In defence of DoITT, Nancy Scola just fwded to me a set of bullet points that she, as an accredited journalist, did obtain from a contact there. She's asked me not to make them public until she gets her article out, but the $185k + $25/yr is not recoupable against the city's 40%, and that 40% includes all .nyc related revenues such as advertising etc. Guaranteed city income starts at $300K and rise to $1m in the 5th year, and some nexus clauses. j On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca>wrote: > At 27/03/2012 02:54 PM, Joly MacFie wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Thomas Lowenhaupt >> <toml(a)communisphere.com>wrote: >> >> > >> > I did take some notes >> > >> >> When Nancy Scola and I were in there we were forbidden to even put pen to >> paper. They did genrously extend the deadline to 4.15 since we couldn't >> get >> in there til 4pm since we chose to wait until Jay Sulzberger and Robert >> Pollard had finished (there was only one copy available.) >> >> >> j >> > > Sounds rather Draconian - the kind of thing you would expect of a > Soviet-era archives and not the City of New York. > > Alan > > -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- -

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Re: [NA-Discuss] Concerning the NeuStar ~ New York City "public hearing"
by Alan Greenberg March 27, 2012

March 27, 2012

I may be missing something here, but as I see it, if New York willingly (or perhaps willfully in this case) enters into an agreement with a private company to provide services, I don't see how ICANN is even involved. ICANN has a duty to ensure that the TLD operator has the ability to operate the domain (which presumably Neustar can demonstrate), but not to judge whether the contract was a good deal or follows the rules of New York. In fact, although the application may list Neustar as the projected operator, New York is not bound (by the application) to actually use them. ICANN has made it clear that changing back-end operators for whatever reason is an applicant's right, so the details of the contract are not really linked to the application. Whether New York can actually back out or not would depend on the contract with Neustar, which I am pretty sure is not part of the application documentation. ICANN's prime involvement would be to verify that prior to actual insertion into the root, the back-end operator is capable. ALAC could comment or perhaps object if there were grounds indicating that .NYC TLD was a bad idea, or should not be managed by whoever submits the application, but I find it hard to stretch that to judging whether the city is sufficiently astute as to negotiate good (or perceived good) contracts. Alan At 27/03/2012 01:19 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote: >It certainly does seem -- at this point -- as if the opaqueness is >happening between the city and Neustar. Until an application >actually shows up in the pipeline, it's not yet an ICANN issue. > >I believe the AG does allow cities to grant or bestow consent on >whomever they wish, however they wish. At this stage it's very much >a city politics issue more than an ICANN one. > >Now... *here's* where things get interesting.... > >ALAC has the ICANN-given right and ability to launch public interest >objections to applications, and some people in our community have >worked extremely hard to develop the procedures to process such >objections. If the case can be made that the ACTUAL .nyc application >(not the current rumours and vagueness) is against the public >interest, ALAC has legitimate grounds to object. > >Perhaps even the threat of an ALAC objection might be enough to get >the city and Neustar to open things up. > >But before Thomas goes and suggests such threats, what do others >here say? Is this a legitimate course of action? > >- Evan

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Re: [NA-Discuss] Concerning the NeuStar ~ New York City "public hearing"
by Beau Brendler March 27, 2012

March 27, 2012

Well, truth be told I don't know. Thomas? Can you help us out here? -----Original Message----- >From: "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" <michele(a)blacknight.ie> >Sent: Mar 27, 2012 12:03 PM >To: Beau Brendler <beaubrendler(a)earthlink.net> >Cc: NA Discuss <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Concerning the NeuStar ~ New York City "public hearing" > > >On 27 Mar 2012, at 16:58, Beau Brendler wrote: > >> Thomas, >> >> While I don't see it as the NA RALO's duty to support new TLD efforts, I do see it as our duty to help members of NA with ICANN issues in the public interest. The non-transparency of contract negotiations are certainly an issue in the public interest. >> >> Would it be helpful if I demand on behalf of NA RALO access to the contract in the public interest, in accordance with the ICANN affirmation of commitments? Or has the horse already left the barn, so to speak? > >Beau > >Surely the contract in this case would be between the city and Neustar and not have anything to do with ICANN (directly)? > >Regards > >Michele > > >> >> I don't know how much power the RALO has, but I am more than willing to test it on your behalf, as we have done with the .PR issue, with conflict of interest, and other topics. >> >> Beau Brendler >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Thomas Lowenhaupt <toml(a)communisphere.com> >>> Sent: Mar 27, 2012 1:52 AM >>> To: joly(a)punkcast.com >>> Cc: NA Discuss <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >>> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Concerning the NeuStar ~ New York City "public hearing" >>> >>> Joly, >>> >>> I've posted my notes from my Thursday morning opportunity to view the >>> proposed NeuStar contract here. >>> <http://www.coactivate.org/projects/campaign-for.nyc/blog/2012/03/23/first-v…> >>> They are quite incomplete. And that's really a sorry state of affairs, >>> because your notes and mine are the totality of reporting on the >>> portions of the contract that were made available to us. (As I've noted >>> in the sidebar of the written comments page, the meat of he contract is >>> not yet complete). >>> >>> The viewing period is over and the city has said "Sorry folks, you >>> missed it." That lack of transparency is my note #1. And the only one >>> that counts. No transparency no contract. (At least that's my view.) >>> >>> It's really quite amazing, sickening really. It's against the law in the >>> city to sell a pair of sneakers with a purchasing contract as opaque as >>> NeuStar's. But they'll get 15 years of revenue from our TLD, and we >>> can't see the contract. Astounding. >>> >>> Gale was as usual most clear. Thanks for getting her statement online. >>> Her comments would have been far more interesting had she been able to >>> see the contract. >>> >>> My 3-minutes of comments are probably best left on the cutting room >>> floor - was I foaming at the mouth? The written ones >>> <http://www.coactivate.org/projects/campaign-for.nyc/comments-to-doitt-on-pr…> >>> make a few important points. At the hearing the one point I was trying >>> to make was that DoITT should have been the last part of the acquisition >>> process, not the one and only. Research, public education and outreach, >>> city council hearings, and perhaps legislation preceding an IT >>> purchasing process. >>> >>> But I wasn't able to convince anyone here on NA Discuss that a city-TLD >>> was more significant than .banjo, and it's beginning to look not in the >>> city either. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Tom Lowenhaupt >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3/26/2012 1:35 PM, Joly MacFie wrote: >>>> While I support you in principle Tom, I did think at the hearing that >>>> your comments, rushed as they were in the three minutes available, >>>> were a little too philosophical when what was needed was sharp bullet >>>> points about shortcomings in the contract and process. >>>> >>>> I thought Gale Brewer did a fair job of this which is why I have >>>> posted the video of her testimony. >>>> http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3117&cpage=1#comment-8232 >>>> <http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3117&cpage=1#comment-8232> >>>> >>>> I will process the rest of the hearing so your comments can be seen >>>> and heard. >>>> >>>> My limited understanding, from a cursory viewing of the contract, >>>> >>>> * the City itself is nominally the applicant, but that Neustar will do >>>> the applying and pay the fees. >>>> * Neustar will pay the City something along the lines of 40% of >>>> revenue (gross? unclear) >>>> * there will be nexus requirements, and domains will be revocable if >>>> found not in compliance. >>>> * the city will spot check 50 domains a year for compliance. >>>> * there will be reserved names - as yet undetermined, for which the >>>> City will act as registrar. >>>> >>>> j >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Thomas Lowenhaupt >>>> <toml(a)communisphere.com <mailto:toml@communisphere.com>> wrote: >>>>> Evan, >>>>> >>>>> Your concerns are heart warming. >>>>> >>>>> New York City might be headed off a cliff with its application. The >>>> "public >>>>> hearing" Joly announced about a NeuStar ~ New York City arrangement >>>>> concerned a contract that is incomplete and therefore not available >>>> to the >>>>> public - see http://blog.connectingnyc.org (don't care about the >>>> issue - see >>>>> my friends BloomBORG for a giggle). >>>>> >>>>> Moving forward, I hope to find segments of the Internet community >>>> that will >>>>> join me in developing a plan / guidelines that will assist cities >>>> navigating >>>>> the shark infested registry-registrar waters, creating best >>>> practices, and >>>>> effectively governing their TLDs. I'll be announcing that early next >>>> week. >>>>> >>>>> In the meantime, in preparing my comments for the faux-public >>>> hearing, I'm >>>>> getting closer to answering your "What's so important about city-TLDs?" >>>>> question. It might be too late to help my home city, and I'm not >>>> 100% there >>>>> yet, but I hope the below begins to turn up the volume so that >>>> people will >>>>> begin to hear the music to which I dance. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Tom Lowenhaupt >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> From my comments to the faux-hearing: >>>>> >>>>> What is a City-TLD? 3 Views >>>>> >>>>> Let's think back to the early 1800's when work began on what's now >>>> called >>>>> the Commissioners Plan of 1811. The Plan set out the city's street >>>> grid - >>>>> 1st to 155th Streets and 1st to 12th Avenues. It took 4 years and >>>> even then >>>>> they left out a few parts – like Central Park. And late in the >>>> process they >>>>> said “Let's put in Lexington Avenue.” Not by name mind you – but >>>>> conceptually. The Commissioners' Plan wasn't about names. And this >>>> city-TLD >>>>> is not, in its essence, about names. Names are part of both. But the >>>> core >>>>> elements are structure, order, and accountability. >>>>> >>>>> My view is that a .nyc is a scaffold for our culture and our treasures. >>>>> Think for a second about the New York Yankees. Yes, all the star players >>>>> have names. But its the combination of players, coaches, trainers, >>>> owners, >>>>> fans, and concessionaires selling hotdogs and beer that make the New >>>> York >>>>> Yankees a success. Each and every person in this list of what might be >>>>> called the “Yankees Network” has a name. But it's an effective >>>>> organizational structure and culture that makes the Yankees win. From my >>>>> perspective our city's TLD is a culture making tool. A scaffold for >>>>> organizing our resources. >>>>> >>>>> Let me tell you another view, one I'll call The Grand View (I'm >>>> thankful to >>>>> David Bollier's Viral Spiral for this.) – It involves the legendary Adam >>>>> Smith. Everyone is familiar with the impact of his The Wealth of >>>> Nations. To >>>>> some this 1776 economics treaties is their constitution and bible. In it >>>>> Smith wrote about people's penchant for what he called “truck, >>>> barter, and >>>>> exchange” - markets and capitalism. Today his thoughts serve as a >>>> basis for >>>>> our global economy. >>>>> >>>>> In another work, The Theory of Moral Sentiments, Smith wrote about “deep >>>>> impulses of human sympathy and morality” that included the most >>>> important of >>>>> human traits – sharing, loving, caring, sympathy, empathy. The Grand >>>> View >>>>> holds that the .nyc TLD is a organizing force for digitizing these most >>>>> important human impulses. At first glance, to an old timer like me, this >>>>> sounded like crazy talk. But when I look at developments like >>>> Wikipedia and >>>>> the Open Source movement, I see Smith's “deep impulses of human >>>> sympathy and >>>>> morality” played out on a daily basis. Projects like these are all about >>>>> people sharing to help one another. >>>>> >>>>> So 250 years later Adam Smith's sympathetic half may reach fruition >>>> through >>>>> Internet resources like the .nyc TLD. Because now we have a tool to more >>>>> effectively identify, count, track, and value the good. >>>>> >>>>> Imagine our city with a 1,000 Wikipedia scale projects. Efforts like: >>>>> >>>>> JacksonHeights.nyc >>>>> >>>>> GreenwichVillage.nyc >>>>> >>>>> Harlem.nyc >>>>> >>>>> Voters.nyc >>>>> >>>>> CivicIssues.nyc >>>>> >>>>> CandidatesForMayor.nyc >>>>> >>>>> So what's a city-TLD? It's a powerful planning and organizing tool >>>> that can >>>>> improve our city and our lives during the foreseeable future. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> On 3/22/2012 4:45 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 22 March 2012 15:10, Joly MacFie <joly(a)punkcast.com >>>> <mailto:joly@punkcast.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> A public hearing on NYC's allocation of the .nyc contract to >>>>> Neustar will be held tomorrow, Friday, in Brooklyn. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Looks like all of Thomas Lowenhaupt's multiple years of hard work >>>>> advocating for a community-focused .nyc TLD for may turn out to have >>>> been >>>>> blazing a rugged, obstacle-clearing trail through which Neustar may now >>>>> drive its HumVee. >>>>> >>>>> Thomas, I feel for ya. I was a vocal skeptic of your proposal but am >>>> even >>>>> more critical of a direct government-Neustar registry (both in >>>> process and >>>>> likely substance). I didn't expect that your project would seek out >>>>> defensive domains but I can feel fairly confident that a pure >>>> generic play >>>>> would consider defencives as part of their revenue mix. >>>>> >>>>> Personally, I've delighted that so few geoTLD proposals have come from >>>>> North America. I expect .québec for historical reasons (much >>>> conceptually >>>>> in common with .cat), and I consider the current plays for .nyc and >>>> .vegas >>>>> to be almost defensive TLDs themselves, given those cities' own branding >>>>> efforts.. The other two listed at http://www.citytld.com/ (for >>>> Ottawa and >>>>> San Francisco) appear dead >>>>> >>>>> Most of the others are proposed for Europe. What a massive waste of >>>> money >>>>> and time. I feel truly sorry for all the small businesses that will be >>>>> compelled to register defensively for those that roll out. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe there are so few North American ones because people here >>>> already see >>>>> what a bust ".us" is and figure that almost all the incumbents are >>>> Amercian >>>>> anyway. But I'll appreciate the sanity wherever I can find it. >>>>> >>>>> - Evan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Information Technology and Telecommunications Public Hearing* >>>>> >>>>> Notice is hereby given that a Contract Public Hearing will be held on >>>>> Friday, March 23, 2012 at DoITT, 2 MetroTech Center, 4th Floor, >>>> Brooklyn NY >>>>> 11209, commencing at 2:00 P.M. on the following: >>>>> >>>>> In the matter of a proposed contract between the Department of >>>> Information >>>>> Technology and Telecommunications and Neustar located at 21575 Ridgetop >>>>> Circle, Sterling, VA 20166, to apply for, and if obtained, operate, >>>>> administer, manage and market nyc. The term of the contract shall be for >>>>> five (5) years with two (2) five (5) year renewal options at the City’s >>>>> discretion. The contract is a Revenue contract, PIN: 85812P0001. >>>>> >>>>> *10/5/2009 City issues RFP for .nyc management >>>> <http://isoc-ny.org/?p=902> >>>>> >>>>> * >>>>> * >>>>> >>>>> Comment <http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3117#respond> See all >>>>> comments<http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3117#comments> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Trouble clicking?* Copy and paste this URL into your browser: >>>>> http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3117 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast >>>>> WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com >>>>> http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com >>>>> VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> - >>>>> ------ >>>>> NA-Discuss mailing list >>>>> NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>> <mailto:NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> >>>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss >>>>> >>>>> Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >>>>> ------ >>>>> >>>>> ------ >>>>> NA-Discuss mailing list >>>>> NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>> <mailto:NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> >>>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss >>>>> >>>>> Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >>>>> ------ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast >>>> WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com >>>> http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com >>>> VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> - >>> ------ >>> NA-Discuss mailing list >>> NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss >>> >>> Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >>> ------ >> >> >> ------ >> NA-Discuss mailing list >> NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss >> >> Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >> ------ > >Mr Michele Neylon >Blacknight Solutions ♞ >Hosting & Colocation, Brand Protection >ICANN Accredited Registrar >http://www.blacknight.com/ >http://blog.blacknight.com/ >http://blacknight.biz >http://mneylon.tel >Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 >US: 213-233-1612 >Locall: 1850 929 929 >Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 >Facebook: http://fb.me/blacknight >Twitter: http://twitter.com/mneylon >------------------------------- >Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty >Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845 >

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Re: [NA-Discuss] Concerning the NeuStar ~ New York City "public hearing"
by Beau Brendler March 27, 2012

March 27, 2012

Thomas, While I don't see it as the NA RALO's duty to support new TLD efforts, I do see it as our duty to help members of NA with ICANN issues in the public interest. The non-transparency of contract negotiations are certainly an issue in the public interest. Would it be helpful if I demand on behalf of NA RALO access to the contract in the public interest, in accordance with the ICANN affirmation of commitments? Or has the horse already left the barn, so to speak? I don't know how much power the RALO has, but I am more than willing to test it on your behalf, as we have done with the .PR issue, with conflict of interest, and other topics. Beau Brendler -----Original Message----- >From: Thomas Lowenhaupt <toml(a)communisphere.com> >Sent: Mar 27, 2012 1:52 AM >To: joly(a)punkcast.com >Cc: NA Discuss <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Concerning the NeuStar ~ New York City "public hearing" > >Joly, > >I've posted my notes from my Thursday morning opportunity to view the >proposed NeuStar contract here. ><http://www.coactivate.org/projects/campaign-for.nyc/blog/2012/03/23/first-v…> >They are quite incomplete. And that's really a sorry state of affairs, >because your notes and mine are the totality of reporting on the >portions of the contract that were made available to us. (As I've noted >in the sidebar of the written comments page, the meat of he contract is >not yet complete). > >The viewing period is over and the city has said "Sorry folks, you >missed it." That lack of transparency is my note #1. And the only one >that counts. No transparency no contract. (At least that's my view.) > >It's really quite amazing, sickening really. It's against the law in the >city to sell a pair of sneakers with a purchasing contract as opaque as >NeuStar's. But they'll get 15 years of revenue from our TLD, and we >can't see the contract. Astounding. > >Gale was as usual most clear. Thanks for getting her statement online. >Her comments would have been far more interesting had she been able to >see the contract. > >My 3-minutes of comments are probably best left on the cutting room >floor - was I foaming at the mouth? The written ones ><http://www.coactivate.org/projects/campaign-for.nyc/comments-to-doitt-on-pr…> >make a few important points. At the hearing the one point I was trying >to make was that DoITT should have been the last part of the acquisition >process, not the one and only. Research, public education and outreach, >city council hearings, and perhaps legislation preceding an IT >purchasing process. > >But I wasn't able to convince anyone here on NA Discuss that a city-TLD >was more significant than .banjo, and it's beginning to look not in the >city either. > >Best, > >Tom Lowenhaupt > > > >On 3/26/2012 1:35 PM, Joly MacFie wrote: >> While I support you in principle Tom, I did think at the hearing that >> your comments, rushed as they were in the three minutes available, >> were a little too philosophical when what was needed was sharp bullet >> points about shortcomings in the contract and process. >> >> I thought Gale Brewer did a fair job of this which is why I have >> posted the video of her testimony. >> http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3117&cpage=1#comment-8232 >> <http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3117&cpage=1#comment-8232> >> >> I will process the rest of the hearing so your comments can be seen >> and heard. >> >> My limited understanding, from a cursory viewing of the contract, >> >> * the City itself is nominally the applicant, but that Neustar will do >> the applying and pay the fees. >> * Neustar will pay the City something along the lines of 40% of >> revenue (gross? unclear) >> * there will be nexus requirements, and domains will be revocable if >> found not in compliance. >> * the city will spot check 50 domains a year for compliance. >> * there will be reserved names - as yet undetermined, for which the >> City will act as registrar. >> >> j >> >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Thomas Lowenhaupt >> <toml(a)communisphere.com <mailto:toml@communisphere.com>> wrote: >> > Evan, >> > >> > Your concerns are heart warming. >> > >> > New York City might be headed off a cliff with its application. The >> "public >> > hearing" Joly announced about a NeuStar ~ New York City arrangement >> > concerned a contract that is incomplete and therefore not available >> to the >> > public - see http://blog.connectingnyc.org (don't care about the >> issue - see >> > my friends BloomBORG for a giggle). >> > >> > Moving forward, I hope to find segments of the Internet community >> that will >> > join me in developing a plan / guidelines that will assist cities >> navigating >> > the shark infested registry-registrar waters, creating best >> practices, and >> > effectively governing their TLDs. I'll be announcing that early next >> week. >> > >> > In the meantime, in preparing my comments for the faux-public >> hearing, I'm >> > getting closer to answering your "What's so important about city-TLDs?" >> > question. It might be too late to help my home city, and I'm not >> 100% there >> > yet, but I hope the below begins to turn up the volume so that >> people will >> > begin to hear the music to which I dance. >> > >> > Best, >> > >> > Tom Lowenhaupt >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From my comments to the faux-hearing: >> > >> > What is a City-TLD? 3 Views >> > >> > Let's think back to the early 1800's when work began on what's now >> called >> > the Commissioners Plan of 1811. The Plan set out the city's street >> grid - >> > 1st to 155th Streets and 1st to 12th Avenues. It took 4 years and >> even then >> > they left out a few parts – like Central Park. And late in the >> process they >> > said “Let's put in Lexington Avenue.” Not by name mind you – but >> > conceptually. The Commissioners' Plan wasn't about names. And this >> city-TLD >> > is not, in its essence, about names. Names are part of both. But the >> core >> > elements are structure, order, and accountability. >> > >> > My view is that a .nyc is a scaffold for our culture and our treasures. >> > Think for a second about the New York Yankees. Yes, all the star players >> > have names. But its the combination of players, coaches, trainers, >> owners, >> > fans, and concessionaires selling hotdogs and beer that make the New >> York >> > Yankees a success. Each and every person in this list of what might be >> > called the “Yankees Network” has a name. But it's an effective >> > organizational structure and culture that makes the Yankees win. From my >> > perspective our city's TLD is a culture making tool. A scaffold for >> > organizing our resources. >> > >> > Let me tell you another view, one I'll call The Grand View (I'm >> thankful to >> > David Bollier's Viral Spiral for this.) – It involves the legendary Adam >> > Smith. Everyone is familiar with the impact of his The Wealth of >> Nations. To >> > some this 1776 economics treaties is their constitution and bible. In it >> > Smith wrote about people's penchant for what he called “truck, >> barter, and >> > exchange” - markets and capitalism. Today his thoughts serve as a >> basis for >> > our global economy. >> > >> > In another work, The Theory of Moral Sentiments, Smith wrote about “deep >> > impulses of human sympathy and morality” that included the most >> important of >> > human traits – sharing, loving, caring, sympathy, empathy. The Grand >> View >> > holds that the .nyc TLD is a organizing force for digitizing these most >> > important human impulses. At first glance, to an old timer like me, this >> > sounded like crazy talk. But when I look at developments like >> Wikipedia and >> > the Open Source movement, I see Smith's “deep impulses of human >> sympathy and >> > morality” played out on a daily basis. Projects like these are all about >> > people sharing to help one another. >> > >> > So 250 years later Adam Smith's sympathetic half may reach fruition >> through >> > Internet resources like the .nyc TLD. Because now we have a tool to more >> > effectively identify, count, track, and value the good. >> > >> > Imagine our city with a 1,000 Wikipedia scale projects. Efforts like: >> > >> > JacksonHeights.nyc >> > >> > GreenwichVillage.nyc >> > >> > Harlem.nyc >> > >> > Voters.nyc >> > >> > CivicIssues.nyc >> > >> > CandidatesForMayor.nyc >> > >> > So what's a city-TLD? It's a powerful planning and organizing tool >> that can >> > improve our city and our lives during the foreseeable future. >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > >> > On 3/22/2012 4:45 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote: >> > >> > On 22 March 2012 15:10, Joly MacFie <joly(a)punkcast.com >> <mailto:joly@punkcast.com>> wrote: >> > >> > >> > A public hearing on NYC's allocation of the .nyc contract to >> > Neustar will be held tomorrow, Friday, in Brooklyn. >> > >> > >> > Looks like all of Thomas Lowenhaupt's multiple years of hard work >> > advocating for a community-focused .nyc TLD for may turn out to have >> been >> > blazing a rugged, obstacle-clearing trail through which Neustar may now >> > drive its HumVee. >> > >> > Thomas, I feel for ya. I was a vocal skeptic of your proposal but am >> even >> > more critical of a direct government-Neustar registry (both in >> process and >> > likely substance). I didn't expect that your project would seek out >> > defensive domains but I can feel fairly confident that a pure >> generic play >> > would consider defencives as part of their revenue mix. >> > >> > Personally, I've delighted that so few geoTLD proposals have come from >> > North America. I expect .québec for historical reasons (much >> conceptually >> > in common with .cat), and I consider the current plays for .nyc and >> .vegas >> > to be almost defensive TLDs themselves, given those cities' own branding >> > efforts.. The other two listed at http://www.citytld.com/ (for >> Ottawa and >> > San Francisco) appear dead >> > >> > Most of the others are proposed for Europe. What a massive waste of >> money >> > and time. I feel truly sorry for all the small businesses that will be >> > compelled to register defensively for those that roll out. >> > >> > Maybe there are so few North American ones because people here >> already see >> > what a bust ".us" is and figure that almost all the incumbents are >> Amercian >> > anyway. But I'll appreciate the sanity wherever I can find it. >> > >> > - Evan >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > *Information Technology and Telecommunications Public Hearing* >> > >> > Notice is hereby given that a Contract Public Hearing will be held on >> > Friday, March 23, 2012 at DoITT, 2 MetroTech Center, 4th Floor, >> Brooklyn NY >> > 11209, commencing at 2:00 P.M. on the following: >> > >> > In the matter of a proposed contract between the Department of >> Information >> > Technology and Telecommunications and Neustar located at 21575 Ridgetop >> > Circle, Sterling, VA 20166, to apply for, and if obtained, operate, >> > administer, manage and market nyc. The term of the contract shall be for >> > five (5) years with two (2) five (5) year renewal options at the City’s >> > discretion. The contract is a Revenue contract, PIN: 85812P0001. >> > >> > *10/5/2009 City issues RFP for .nyc management >> <http://isoc-ny.org/?p=902> >> > >> > * >> > * >> > >> > Comment <http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3117#respond> See all >> > comments<http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3117#comments> >> > >> > >> > *Trouble clicking?* Copy and paste this URL into your browser: >> > http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3117 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > --------------------------------------------------------------- >> > Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast >> > WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com >> > http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com >> > VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org >> > -------------------------------------------------------------- >> > - >> > ------ >> > NA-Discuss mailing list >> > NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> <mailto:NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> >> > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss >> > >> > Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >> > ------ >> > >> > ------ >> > NA-Discuss mailing list >> > NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> <mailto:NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> >> > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss >> > >> > Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >> > ------ >> >> >> >> -- >> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast >> WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com >> http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com >> VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >------ >NA-Discuss mailing list >NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > >Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >------

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Re: [NA-Discuss] On ICANN and Conflict of Interest
by Beau Brendler March 27, 2012

March 27, 2012

Thank you, Evan. I hope members of the region weigh in with some feedback. It is heartening to see the broader ALAC regard this important issue with concern. Beau -----Original Message----- >From: Evan Leibovitch <evan(a)telly.org> >Sent: Mar 26, 2012 4:28 PM >To: NARALO Discussion List <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: [NA-Discuss] On ICANN and Conflict of Interest > >Hello all, > >As some of you might recall, CofI became a very hot topic for ALAC at the >Costa Rica ICANN meetings, in no small part thanks to NARALO's and Beau's >efforts. > >Beau proposed a NARALO motion which is still on the record and can >certainly be sent in its current form. In order to make it more palatable >without (hopefully) dulling the tone or the intent of the message, a number >of people have take a stab at a statement which could be adapted by all >ALAC. In Costa Rica, committed to Beau that I would be submitting a >statement on the issue for consideration a the next ALAC meeting since we >ran out of time that week. > >The present workspace where this is being debated is at >https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+ICANN+Board+Conf… >-- >it includes a number of suggested statements including one of my own. > >Please have a look and comment. Especially helpful would be feedback for my >own version, found near the bottom of the page. > >Thanks! > >-- >Evan Leibovitch >Toronto Canada > >Em: evan at telly dot org >Sk: evanleibovitch >Tw: el56 >------ >NA-Discuss mailing list >NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > >Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >------

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.nyc contract hearing friday 3/23 in Brooklyn
by Joly MacFie March 27, 2012

March 27, 2012

I will record this. j ** [image: dot nyc notice]<http://isoc-ny.org/p2/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/late-notice.png>A public hearing on NYC's allocation of the .nyc contract to Neustar will be held tomorrow, Friday, in Brooklyn. *Information Technology and Telecommunications Public Hearing* Notice is hereby given that a Contract Public Hearing will be held on Friday, March 23, 2012 at DoITT, 2 MetroTech Center, 4th Floor, Brooklyn NY 11209, commencing at 2:00 P.M. on the following: In the matter of a proposed contract between the Department of Information Technology and Telecommunications and Neustar located at 21575 Ridgetop Circle, Sterling, VA 20166, to apply for, and if obtained, operate, administer, manage and market nyc. The term of the contract shall be for five (5) years with two (2) five (5) year renewal options at the City’s discretion. The contract is a Revenue contract, PIN: 85812P0001. *10/5/2009 City issues RFP for .nyc management <http://isoc-ny.org/?p=902> * * Comment <http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3117#respond> See all comments<http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3117#comments> *Trouble clicking?* Copy and paste this URL into your browser: http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3117 -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- -

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On ICANN and Conflict of Interest
by Evan Leibovitch March 26, 2012

March 26, 2012

Hello all, As some of you might recall, CofI became a very hot topic for ALAC at the Costa Rica ICANN meetings, in no small part thanks to NARALO's and Beau's efforts. Beau proposed a NARALO motion which is still on the record and can certainly be sent in its current form. In order to make it more palatable without (hopefully) dulling the tone or the intent of the message, a number of people have take a stab at a statement which could be adapted by all ALAC. In Costa Rica, committed to Beau that I would be submitting a statement on the issue for consideration a the next ALAC meeting since we ran out of time that week. The present workspace where this is being debated is at https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+ICANN+Board+Conf… -- it includes a number of suggested statements including one of my own. Please have a look and comment. Especially helpful would be feedback for my own version, found near the bottom of the page. Thanks! -- Evan Leibovitch Toronto Canada Em: evan at telly dot org Sk: evanleibovitch Tw: el56

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Re: [NA-Discuss] Short Videos
by Glenn McKnight March 24, 2012

March 24, 2012

Hi All Here is the posted videos from Costa Rica . They will be a great resource for the online ICANN Academy allowing the learners access to short and first person unscripted opinions on various topics. In some cases I had to film where I could get a spot and work with people's schedules so the sound could be better. I would like to thank all those who participated. If you have any suggestions for topics for me to film in Prague let me know. In the interim here is the links, these films will be provided to Matt @ ICANN and to our ICANN Moodle site http://moodle.movableoffice.net/login/index.php Topics and Links Videos History of LACRALO with Jackie Morris and Carlton Samuels http://youtu.be/WK_PyMVz6jc Wolfgang Kleinwaechter One Minute on Internet Governance http://youtu.be/1rgPKrNCBYQ Wolfgang Kleinwaechter Internet Governance Longer version http://youtu.be/2j5wQsXR7Lk Sébastien Bachollet on ICANN Board Structure http://youtu.be/NerkJo2hGzw Sébastien Bachollet discusses his Involvement @ ICANN http://youtu.be/rYP8SUZn94c Maria Farrell speaks about the Non Commercial Stakeholder Group on Privacy http://youtu.be/9VzLjsnBOn8 Maria Farrell speaks about the Non Commercial Stakeholder Group http://youtu.be/-Ku2oDiUZQg Beau Brendler, NARALO Chair on Growth of the Internet http://youtu.be/y8hftq-sN8k Beau Brendler on Compliance http://youtu.be/-bM5ydYBbBE <http://youtu.be/-bM5ydYBbBE> Dan York Internet Society Simplify the DNS Deployment http://youtu.be/jW3XZYLjcQ0 Olof Nordling on the Address Support Organizations http://youtu.be/YVsI6jJhYbU Seith Reiss: Invitation to get involved in Whois Taskforce http://youtu.be/-wUvbXuWMgA Seth Reiss talks about Getting Involved with WHOIS http://youtu.be/Q5HZvjf4uJA Olivier Crépin-Leblond Discussion of ALAC http://youtu.be/_p0tF4iV-_U Olivier Crépin-Leblond Short Description of ALAC http://youtu.be/43hrLtB2qi4 Glenn McKnight NARALO Member NOMCOM Committee ICANN Academy

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