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Transcript of 29 May teleconference
by Nick Ashton-Hart June 6, 2007

June 6, 2007

Just to let you all know, the transcript of the call is now available for those who missed it at: https://st.icann.org/naralo/index.cgi? transcript_29_may_2007 I gather Bret has summary minutes which will soon arrive. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom Main Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011] USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Re: [NA-Discuss] Language
by Evan Leibovitch June 6, 2007

June 6, 2007

Jacob Malthouse wrote: > > Didn't know that, thanks Bret! > > > The issue appears far from dead; it was raised at the Republican presidential candidates' debate just a few days ago. I know because it was reported on the Daily Show yesterday :-) . - Evan

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Travel arrangements to SJ
by Evan Leibovitch June 6, 2007

June 6, 2007

For the benefit of ICANN staff and NARALO travelers to San Juan (especially those going from Canada): My initial impression of the American Express travel service, contracted to handle the arrangements for participants in the San Juan meeting is -- shall we say -- less than stellar. I say this as a note of caution, especially for other Canadians, to check their itineraries carefully. Particularly for an international operation, the Amex agents handling ICANN seem strangely clueless regarding Canada/US travel, notably the fact that most Canadians clear US customs _before_ boarding the plane at the Canadian airport. This is great for Canadians traveling to airports without customs facilities (ie Laguardia, Midway) but it means that connection times must be significantly adjusted. If transferring from a Canadian domestic flight to one headed for the US, you need to reclaim your bags, check in again, clear US customs and immigration (and there's usually a queue), re-check your bags and head to the US-bound flight's gate (which in Vancouver and Toronto can be quite a trek). (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_border_preclearance#Canada) Imagine my surprise to hear from one other San Juan-bound traveler who was given ** 35 minutes ** by Amex to accomplish such a transfer. That person would have most certainly missed the US-bound flight, and I believe that appropriate changes have been made. Of course, if your flight originates in a city with pre-clearance, you need to get the airport sooner than you would for a domestic or other international flight. Even here, on my own itinerary, Amex proved themselves less able to book a decent flight than I could have done going online myself. For my own flights to and from San Juan, the Amex agent booked me in seats adjacent to the lavatory on planes that were far from full. Thankfully I was able to go online to the airline's site and change my seat assignments. (FYI, if you also care about where you sit -- and where the good and bad seats are in each aircraft -- I highly recommend http://www.seatguru.com/ ) Anyway, just be forewarned -- and check your booking. One would think that a company like Amex would actually care about their traveler's comfort. - Evan

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Re: [NA-Discuss] Travel arrangements to SJ
by Alan Greenberg June 6, 2007

June 6, 2007

I checked several airline scheduling tools, and they all show this as a valid connection. I suspect a database somewhere is loaded with the wrong value for US-bound connections in Ottawa. HOWEVER, there are plenty of connections that are technically legal but physically impossible (arriving at LHR at 7 am and changing terminals in theory takes 75 minutes - only those with much faith and stamina would accept such a booking) - no travel agent should argue about wanting more time in any given situation - aside from situations like this, they know nothing about your age or physical condition. Alan At 05/06/2007 01:18 PM, Thompson, Darlene wrote: >To back up Evan's comments below - I was the one that they allowed 35 >minutes as a switch over in Ottawa. > >The reason *why* was that I was coming in on an airline that was >unaffiliated to the two that Amex uses (sorry, the Canadian biggies just >don't come to where I live). The Amex sales rep told me that "the >airlines wouldn't have allowed that timing if it weren't possible", so >it had to be right. I had to stand pretty much toe to toe with her and >insist that she double check. She *finally* came back and said, "Oh, >will you have luggage with you?" Grrrrrr... > >I definitely second the thought that you should double check what Amex >has you doing. > >D > >Darlene A. Thompson >Community Access Program Administrator >Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP >c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 >Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 >Phone: (867) 975-6531 >Fax: (867) 979-8870 >dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca > >-----Original Message----- >From: na-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >[mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Evan >Leibovitch >Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:05 PM >To: 'NA Discuss' >Subject: [NA-Discuss] Travel arrangements to SJ > >For the benefit of ICANN staff and NARALO travelers to San Juan >(especially those going from Canada): > > >My initial impression of the American Express travel service, contracted >to handle the arrangements for participants in the San Juan meeting is >-- shall we say -- less than stellar. > > >I say this as a note of caution, especially for other Canadians, to >check their itineraries carefully. > > >Particularly for an international operation, the Amex agents handling >ICANN seem strangely clueless regarding Canada/US travel, notably the >fact that most Canadians clear US customs _before_ boarding the plane at >the Canadian airport. This is great for Canadians traveling to airports >without customs facilities (ie Laguardia, Midway) but it means that >connection times must be significantly adjusted. If transferring from a >Canadian domestic flight to one headed for the US, you need to reclaim >your bags, check in again, clear US customs and immigration (and there's >usually a queue), re-check your bags and head to the US-bound flight's >gate (which in Vancouver and Toronto can be quite a trek). > > >(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_border_preclearance#Canada) > > >Imagine my surprise to hear from one other San Juan-bound traveler who >was given ** 35 minutes ** by Amex to accomplish such a transfer. That >person would have most certainly missed the US-bound flight, and I >believe that appropriate changes have been made. > > >Of course, if your flight originates in a city with pre-clearance, you >need to get the airport sooner than you would for a domestic or other >international flight. Even here, on my own itinerary, Amex proved >themselves less able to book a decent flight than I could have done >going online myself. > > >For my own flights to and from San Juan, the Amex agent booked me in >seats adjacent to the lavatory on planes that were far from full. >Thankfully I was able to go online to the airline's site and change my >seat assignments. > > >(FYI, if you also care about where you sit -- and where the good and bad >seats are in each aircraft -- I highly recommend >http://www.seatguru.com/ ) > > >Anyway, just be forewarned -- and check your booking. One would think >that a company like Amex would actually care about their traveler's >comfort. > > >- Evan > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >NA-Discuss mailing list >NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists >.icann.org >--- >Draft MoU with ICANN: >http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_MOU > >Draft Operating Principles: >http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_OP > >Draft Code of Conduct: >http://www.icannwiki.org/NARALO_Code_of_Conduct > >_______________________________________________ >NA-Discuss mailing list >NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists.ic… >--- >Draft MoU with ICANN: >http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_MOU > >Draft Operating Principles: >http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_OP > >Draft Code of Conduct: >http://www.icannwiki.org/NARALO_Code_of_Conduct

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Re: [NA-Discuss] Voting Update
by Ted Ernst June 5, 2007

June 5, 2007

Sorry, I used the wrong email address to send this the first time. On 6/4/07, Ted Ernst <ted(a)chicagohumanist.org> wrote: > > I (Ted Ernst representing Emerging Futures Network) abstain on the Draft > Operating Principles at this time. I'm still unclear on much of what we're > doing, and how voting works. > > Some questions: > 1.) What are the boundaries of our region? I ask because I see we use > English and French, which presumably covers USA and Canada, but not Spanish, > which tells me Mexico is not in our region. Is this correct? > 2.) 70% affirmative vote is required to adopt the Operating Principles. > Is there a time-limit? Am I free to change my vote anytime before we reach > the 70%? > 3.) Is the document we're currently voting on fixed until is passes or > can it be changed in order to satisfy concerns raised during voting? If > it's changed, are previously cast votes void and we start over? > > Sorry for my basic ignorance and newness. Hopefully I'll catch up soon. > > peace, > ted > > On 6/4/07, Bret Fausett < bfausett(a)internet.law.pro> wrote: > > > > Hi folks, > > > > I'm sorry for the short delay in responding to the list. I moved houses > > last week and much of life has been in and out of boxes since our > > conference call. Anyway, returning to the matters at hand, on our > > conference call last week, we asked all accredited ALSs who had either > > not voted or abstained to review the Draft Operating Principles and the > > Draft Code of Conduct again and cast an affirmative or negative vote on > > the documents. We agreed that At Large Staff would reach out to > > non-voting ALSs to let them know that if they did not cast a vote by > > tomorrow, Tuesday, June 5th, we would deem them not "active" for > > purposes of this ratification vote described in Paragraph 15 of the > > Operating Principles. After the close of the day, Hawaii time, tomorrow, > > I will send an announcement to the list with our status. > > > > Bret > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NA-Discuss mailing list > > NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists.ic… > > --- > > Draft MoU with ICANN: > > http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_MOU > > > > Draft Operating Principles: > > http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_OP > > > > Draft Code of Conduct: > > http://www.icannwiki.org/NARALO_Code_of_Conduct > > > > > > -- > Humanize the Earth! http://tedernst.com > Open more space! http://www.openspaceworld.org > skype: TedErnst -- Humanize the Earth! http://tedernst.com Open more space! http://www.openspaceworld.org skype: TedErnst

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Re: [NA-Discuss] San Juan Prehash
by Nick Ashton-Hart June 5, 2007

June 5, 2007

You will find a number of changes to the agenda and meetings pages on www.naralo.org related to these meetings - in addition, the first public schedule for San Juan is now available at: http:// www.icann.org/meetings/sanjuan/#ScheduleandAgenda On 5 Jun 2007, at 00:06, Bret Fausett wrote: > Dear NA Colleagues, > > Although the agenda for the upcoming meeting in San Juan is not yet > posted > (http://icann.org/meetings/sanjuan/) we know from both the ICANN > website > and our discussions with our staff member Nick Ashton-Hart of > several items > of interest to At Large members that will be discussed at the > meeting. For > purposes of your preparation and to get us started thinking about > the policy > issues, our positions, and possible statements to make at the > meeting, here > is a list of items I know will be presented and discussed. > > Please feel free to add other items, and we can create a working > list on the > wiki. > > Many thanks, > > Bret Fausett > (Interim Chair, North America General Assembly) > > -- > > A. Regional gTLDs > > As a complement to the GNSO policy process on new gTLDs, ICANN will > hold a > public discussion on the appropriateness and possible uses for > regional > gTLDs. Our own Beau Brendler, from Consumers Union, will be on this > panel > with representatives from the GNSO, .BERLIN advocates, and > representatives > of ccTLDs. As background, ICANN already has accredited registries > to operate > ASIA and .CAT. Advocates for municipal, regional and supranational > organizations expect to apply for many more such regional TLDs when > ICANN > accepts applications next year. Some governments and some ccTLD > operators > see the potential for user confusion if these regional gTLDs > proliferate. > What is you opinion? How would North American users be affected by > TLDs such > as .NYC, .BERLIN, .DIXIE, .TIBET, .CANADA, or .AMERICA if these > TLDs were > operated by non-governmental organizations? > > B. Registry and Registrar Failure Issues > > The failure of ICANN-accredited registrar Registerfly has affected > tens of > thousands of users, and the possible imminent bankruptcy of ICANN- > accredited > registry Tralliance Corp. (.TRAVEL) stands to affect more. What > should be > ICANN's role, if any, in protecting registrants from the business > failures > of service providers? How has ICANN performed in responding to the > failures > and potential failures of its accredited service providers? What > should > ICANN require in terms of data escrow for registrars and > registries? This > issue has a significant history, and you'll want to read on the > Registerfly > postings linked from the ICANN home page. > > C. The ICANN Budget for FY2007-2008 > > ICANN's Fiscal Year runs from July 1st to June 30th. During the > first six > months of each fiscal year, ICANN engages the community in a > discussion > about its strategic priorities for the coming years, and during the > second > half of each year, ICANN prepares its budget for the year upcoming. > We are > currently in the budget planning stage of the process, and ICANN will > discuss and finalize its budget for FY 1 July 2007-30 June 2008 at the > Puerto Rico meeting. The current announcement and background > documents are > linked here: > > http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-2-17may07.htm > > D. Top-Level IDNs / Internationalized TLDs > > Over the past few years, ICANN has considered the technical aspects of > introducing internationalized domain names ("IDNs") into the domain > name > system ("DNS"). Now, ICANN is preparing to introduce IDNs as top-level > domains ("TLDs"). An announcement on next steps, dated 2 June 2007, is > posted on the ICANN website: > > http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-02jun07.htm >

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Fwd:Re: Voting Update
by Wendy Seltzer June 5, 2007

June 5, 2007

Mailing list software's acting up. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Auto-discard notification Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 20:22:34 -0400 From: na-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org To: na-discuss-owner(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org The attached message has been automatically discarded. The attached message has been automatically discarded. Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Voting Update From: "Ted Ernst" <ted(a)chicagohumanist.org> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 19:22:37 -0500 To: "Bret Fausett" <bfausett(a)internet.law.pro> CC: "NA Discuss" <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> I (Ted Ernst representing Emerging Futures Network) abstain on the Draft Operating Principles at this time. I'm still unclear on much of what we're doing, and how voting works. Some questions: 1.) What are the boundaries of our region? I ask because I see we use English and French, which presumably covers USA and Canada, but not Spanish, which tells me Mexico is not in our region. Is this correct? 2.) 70% affirmative vote is required to adopt the Operating Principles. Is there a time-limit? Am I free to change my vote anytime before we reach the 70%? 3.) Is the document we're currently voting on fixed until is passes or can it be changed in order to satisfy concerns raised during voting? If it's changed, are previously cast votes void and we start over? Sorry for my basic ignorance and newness. Hopefully I'll catch up soon. peace, ted On 6/4/07, Bret Fausett <bfausett(a)internet.law.pro> wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I'm sorry for the short delay in responding to the list. I moved houses > last week and much of life has been in and out of boxes since our > conference call. Anyway, returning to the matters at hand, on our > conference call last week, we asked all accredited ALSs who had either > not voted or abstained to review the Draft Operating Principles and the > Draft Code of Conduct again and cast an affirmative or negative vote on > the documents. We agreed that At Large Staff would reach out to > non-voting ALSs to let them know that if they did not cast a vote by > tomorrow, Tuesday, June 5th, we would deem them not "active" for > purposes of this ratification vote described in Paragraph 15 of the > Operating Principles. After the close of the day, Hawaii time, tomorrow, > I will send an announcement to the list with our status. > > Bret > > > _______________________________________________ > NA-Discuss mailing list > NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists.ic… > --- > Draft MoU with ICANN: > http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_MOU > > Draft Operating Principles: > http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_OP > > Draft Code of Conduct: > http://www.icannwiki.org/NARALO_Code_of_Conduct > -- Humanize the Earth! http://tedernst.com Open more space! http://www.openspaceworld.org skype: TedErnst

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San Juan Prehash
by Bret Fausett June 5, 2007

June 5, 2007

Dear NA Colleagues, Although the agenda for the upcoming meeting in San Juan is not yet posted (http://icann.org/meetings/sanjuan/) we know from both the ICANN website and our discussions with our staff member Nick Ashton-Hart of several items of interest to At Large members that will be discussed at the meeting. For purposes of your preparation and to get us started thinking about the policy issues, our positions, and possible statements to make at the meeting, here is a list of items I know will be presented and discussed. Please feel free to add other items, and we can create a working list on the wiki. Many thanks, Bret Fausett (Interim Chair, North America General Assembly) -- A. Regional gTLDs As a complement to the GNSO policy process on new gTLDs, ICANN will hold a public discussion on the appropriateness and possible uses for regional gTLDs. Our own Beau Brendler, from Consumers Union, will be on this panel with representatives from the GNSO, .BERLIN advocates, and representatives of ccTLDs. As background, ICANN already has accredited registries to operate .ASIA and .CAT. Advocates for municipal, regional and supranational organizations expect to apply for many more such regional TLDs when ICANN accepts applications next year. Some governments and some ccTLD operators see the potential for user confusion if these regional gTLDs proliferate. What is you opinion? How would North American users be affected by TLDs such as .NYC, .BERLIN, .DIXIE, .TIBET, .CANADA, or .AMERICA if these TLDs were operated by non-governmental organizations? B. Registry and Registrar Failure Issues The failure of ICANN-accredited registrar Registerfly has affected tens of thousands of users, and the possible imminent bankruptcy of ICANN-accredited registry Tralliance Corp. (.TRAVEL) stands to affect more. What should be ICANN's role, if any, in protecting registrants from the business failures of service providers? How has ICANN performed in responding to the failures and potential failures of its accredited service providers? What should ICANN require in terms of data escrow for registrars and registries? This issue has a significant history, and you'll want to read on the Registerfly postings linked from the ICANN home page. C. The ICANN Budget for FY2007-2008 ICANN's Fiscal Year runs from July 1st to June 30th. During the first six months of each fiscal year, ICANN engages the community in a discussion about its strategic priorities for the coming years, and during the second half of each year, ICANN prepares its budget for the year upcoming. We are currently in the budget planning stage of the process, and ICANN will discuss and finalize its budget for FY 1 July 2007-30 June 2008 at the Puerto Rico meeting. The current announcement and background documents are linked here: http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-2-17may07.htm D. Top-Level IDNs / Internationalized TLDs Over the past few years, ICANN has considered the technical aspects of introducing internationalized domain names ("IDNs") into the domain name system ("DNS"). Now, ICANN is preparing to introduce IDNs as top-level domains ("TLDs"). An announcement on next steps, dated 2 June 2007, is posted on the ICANN website: http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-02jun07.htm

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Registry Failure Report Published / Comments Requested
by Nick Ashton-Hart June 4, 2007

June 4, 2007

Dear Colleagues: Many of you may find the information below important. Begin forwarded message: > From: "Patrick Jones" <patrick.jones(a)icann.org> > Date: 2 June 2007 21:02:31 BDT > To: <nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org> > Subject: RE: Registry Failure Report > > Nick, > > > > Yesterday we posted the registry failure report, http:// > www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-4-01jun07.htm. Can you > forward a copy to the ALAC list and encourage everyone to read the > report? I am very interested in their feedback. This report has > been in development since Sao Paulo, and will be discussed in San > Juan as part of a public forum on protections for registrants. > Comments can be sent to registry-failure-report(a)icann.org, viewed > athttp://forum.icann.org/lists/registry-failure-report/. As > always, email can also be sent to me directly. I have also posted > the report on the ICANN blog. An html version should be up by Monday. > > Thanks > > Patrick > > Patrick L. Jones > > Registry Liaison Manager > > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers > > 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330 > > Marina del Rey, CA 90292 > > Tel: +1 310 301 3861 > > Fax: +1 310 823 8649 > > patrick.jones(a)icann.org

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Nominations open for ALAC Board Liaison 2007-2008
by Bret Fausett June 4, 2007

June 4, 2007

FYI. _____ From: alac-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Jacqueline A. Morris Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 11:49 AM To: alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: [At-Large] Nominations open for ALAC Board Liaison 2007-2008 The ALAC is currently accepting nominations for Board Liaison. Timeline: Nominations will be open from today for 2 weeks, until June 18th at midnight GMT. We have 1 week after that for the nominated persons to indicate their acceptance of the nominations (until June 25th) and we will discuss the nominations in San Juan. Voting by the ALAC will be held immediately after the discussions end. The result will be posted to the public ALAC list after the vote closes. The new Board Liaison will take up his/her position at the end of the AGM in Marina Del Rey in October 2007. Nominations are to be made to the public ALAC list - alac(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org. The Board Liaison will serve for a term of one year starting from the closure of an Annual General Meeting and ending at the closure of the following Annual General Meeting. Criteria for Board Liaison: . Shall normally be a person who is a current or former member of the ALAC, or is familiar with the activities and functioning of ICANN and of the ALAC; . Shall accept to serve on behalf of the ALAC by acting for the good of the entire Committee, working to bridge differences and build consensus, but also recognizing difference and enabling different opinions to be shared; . Shall accept, while acting in their capacity as ALAC officer, to put the collective views of the Committee always in front of their own. Any questions can be addressed to me or to staff(a)alac.icann.org. Sincerely Jacqueline A. Morris ALAC Chair No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.7/830 - Release Date: 6/3/2007 12:47 PM

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