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Re: [NA-Discuss] Concerning the NeuStar ~ New York City "public hearing"
by Beau Brendler March 27, 2012

March 27, 2012

Well, truth be told I don't know. Thomas? Can you help us out here? -----Original Message----- >From: "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" <michele(a)blacknight.ie> >Sent: Mar 27, 2012 12:03 PM >To: Beau Brendler <beaubrendler(a)earthlink.net> >Cc: NA Discuss <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Concerning the NeuStar ~ New York City "public hearing" > > >On 27 Mar 2012, at 16:58, Beau Brendler wrote: > >> Thomas, >> >> While I don't see it as the NA RALO's duty to support new TLD efforts, I do see it as our duty to help members of NA with ICANN issues in the public interest. The non-transparency of contract negotiations are certainly an issue in the public interest. >> >> Would it be helpful if I demand on behalf of NA RALO access to the contract in the public interest, in accordance with the ICANN affirmation of commitments? Or has the horse already left the barn, so to speak? > >Beau > >Surely the contract in this case would be between the city and Neustar and not have anything to do with ICANN (directly)? > >Regards > >Michele > > >> >> I don't know how much power the RALO has, but I am more than willing to test it on your behalf, as we have done with the .PR issue, with conflict of interest, and other topics. >> >> Beau Brendler >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Thomas Lowenhaupt <toml(a)communisphere.com> >>> Sent: Mar 27, 2012 1:52 AM >>> To: joly(a)punkcast.com >>> Cc: NA Discuss <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >>> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Concerning the NeuStar ~ New York City "public hearing" >>> >>> Joly, >>> >>> I've posted my notes from my Thursday morning opportunity to view the >>> proposed NeuStar contract here. >>> <http://www.coactivate.org/projects/campaign-for.nyc/blog/2012/03/23/first-v…> >>> They are quite incomplete. And that's really a sorry state of affairs, >>> because your notes and mine are the totality of reporting on the >>> portions of the contract that were made available to us. (As I've noted >>> in the sidebar of the written comments page, the meat of he contract is >>> not yet complete). >>> >>> The viewing period is over and the city has said "Sorry folks, you >>> missed it." That lack of transparency is my note #1. And the only one >>> that counts. No transparency no contract. (At least that's my view.) >>> >>> It's really quite amazing, sickening really. It's against the law in the >>> city to sell a pair of sneakers with a purchasing contract as opaque as >>> NeuStar's. But they'll get 15 years of revenue from our TLD, and we >>> can't see the contract. Astounding. >>> >>> Gale was as usual most clear. Thanks for getting her statement online. >>> Her comments would have been far more interesting had she been able to >>> see the contract. >>> >>> My 3-minutes of comments are probably best left on the cutting room >>> floor - was I foaming at the mouth? The written ones >>> <http://www.coactivate.org/projects/campaign-for.nyc/comments-to-doitt-on-pr…> >>> make a few important points. At the hearing the one point I was trying >>> to make was that DoITT should have been the last part of the acquisition >>> process, not the one and only. Research, public education and outreach, >>> city council hearings, and perhaps legislation preceding an IT >>> purchasing process. >>> >>> But I wasn't able to convince anyone here on NA Discuss that a city-TLD >>> was more significant than .banjo, and it's beginning to look not in the >>> city either. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Tom Lowenhaupt >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3/26/2012 1:35 PM, Joly MacFie wrote: >>>> While I support you in principle Tom, I did think at the hearing that >>>> your comments, rushed as they were in the three minutes available, >>>> were a little too philosophical when what was needed was sharp bullet >>>> points about shortcomings in the contract and process. >>>> >>>> I thought Gale Brewer did a fair job of this which is why I have >>>> posted the video of her testimony. >>>> http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3117&cpage=1#comment-8232 >>>> <http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3117&cpage=1#comment-8232> >>>> >>>> I will process the rest of the hearing so your comments can be seen >>>> and heard. >>>> >>>> My limited understanding, from a cursory viewing of the contract, >>>> >>>> * the City itself is nominally the applicant, but that Neustar will do >>>> the applying and pay the fees. >>>> * Neustar will pay the City something along the lines of 40% of >>>> revenue (gross? unclear) >>>> * there will be nexus requirements, and domains will be revocable if >>>> found not in compliance. >>>> * the city will spot check 50 domains a year for compliance. >>>> * there will be reserved names - as yet undetermined, for which the >>>> City will act as registrar. >>>> >>>> j >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Thomas Lowenhaupt >>>> <toml(a)communisphere.com <mailto:toml@communisphere.com>> wrote: >>>>> Evan, >>>>> >>>>> Your concerns are heart warming. >>>>> >>>>> New York City might be headed off a cliff with its application. The >>>> "public >>>>> hearing" Joly announced about a NeuStar ~ New York City arrangement >>>>> concerned a contract that is incomplete and therefore not available >>>> to the >>>>> public - see http://blog.connectingnyc.org (don't care about the >>>> issue - see >>>>> my friends BloomBORG for a giggle). >>>>> >>>>> Moving forward, I hope to find segments of the Internet community >>>> that will >>>>> join me in developing a plan / guidelines that will assist cities >>>> navigating >>>>> the shark infested registry-registrar waters, creating best >>>> practices, and >>>>> effectively governing their TLDs. I'll be announcing that early next >>>> week. >>>>> >>>>> In the meantime, in preparing my comments for the faux-public >>>> hearing, I'm >>>>> getting closer to answering your "What's so important about city-TLDs?" >>>>> question. It might be too late to help my home city, and I'm not >>>> 100% there >>>>> yet, but I hope the below begins to turn up the volume so that >>>> people will >>>>> begin to hear the music to which I dance. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Tom Lowenhaupt >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> From my comments to the faux-hearing: >>>>> >>>>> What is a City-TLD? 3 Views >>>>> >>>>> Let's think back to the early 1800's when work began on what's now >>>> called >>>>> the Commissioners Plan of 1811. The Plan set out the city's street >>>> grid - >>>>> 1st to 155th Streets and 1st to 12th Avenues. It took 4 years and >>>> even then >>>>> they left out a few parts – like Central Park. And late in the >>>> process they >>>>> said “Let's put in Lexington Avenue.” Not by name mind you – but >>>>> conceptually. The Commissioners' Plan wasn't about names. And this >>>> city-TLD >>>>> is not, in its essence, about names. Names are part of both. But the >>>> core >>>>> elements are structure, order, and accountability. >>>>> >>>>> My view is that a .nyc is a scaffold for our culture and our treasures. >>>>> Think for a second about the New York Yankees. Yes, all the star players >>>>> have names. But its the combination of players, coaches, trainers, >>>> owners, >>>>> fans, and concessionaires selling hotdogs and beer that make the New >>>> York >>>>> Yankees a success. Each and every person in this list of what might be >>>>> called the “Yankees Network” has a name. But it's an effective >>>>> organizational structure and culture that makes the Yankees win. From my >>>>> perspective our city's TLD is a culture making tool. A scaffold for >>>>> organizing our resources. >>>>> >>>>> Let me tell you another view, one I'll call The Grand View (I'm >>>> thankful to >>>>> David Bollier's Viral Spiral for this.) – It involves the legendary Adam >>>>> Smith. Everyone is familiar with the impact of his The Wealth of >>>> Nations. To >>>>> some this 1776 economics treaties is their constitution and bible. In it >>>>> Smith wrote about people's penchant for what he called “truck, >>>> barter, and >>>>> exchange” - markets and capitalism. Today his thoughts serve as a >>>> basis for >>>>> our global economy. >>>>> >>>>> In another work, The Theory of Moral Sentiments, Smith wrote about “deep >>>>> impulses of human sympathy and morality” that included the most >>>> important of >>>>> human traits – sharing, loving, caring, sympathy, empathy. The Grand >>>> View >>>>> holds that the .nyc TLD is a organizing force for digitizing these most >>>>> important human impulses. At first glance, to an old timer like me, this >>>>> sounded like crazy talk. But when I look at developments like >>>> Wikipedia and >>>>> the Open Source movement, I see Smith's “deep impulses of human >>>> sympathy and >>>>> morality” played out on a daily basis. Projects like these are all about >>>>> people sharing to help one another. >>>>> >>>>> So 250 years later Adam Smith's sympathetic half may reach fruition >>>> through >>>>> Internet resources like the .nyc TLD. Because now we have a tool to more >>>>> effectively identify, count, track, and value the good. >>>>> >>>>> Imagine our city with a 1,000 Wikipedia scale projects. Efforts like: >>>>> >>>>> JacksonHeights.nyc >>>>> >>>>> GreenwichVillage.nyc >>>>> >>>>> Harlem.nyc >>>>> >>>>> Voters.nyc >>>>> >>>>> CivicIssues.nyc >>>>> >>>>> CandidatesForMayor.nyc >>>>> >>>>> So what's a city-TLD? It's a powerful planning and organizing tool >>>> that can >>>>> improve our city and our lives during the foreseeable future. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> On 3/22/2012 4:45 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 22 March 2012 15:10, Joly MacFie <joly(a)punkcast.com >>>> <mailto:joly@punkcast.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> A public hearing on NYC's allocation of the .nyc contract to >>>>> Neustar will be held tomorrow, Friday, in Brooklyn. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Looks like all of Thomas Lowenhaupt's multiple years of hard work >>>>> advocating for a community-focused .nyc TLD for may turn out to have >>>> been >>>>> blazing a rugged, obstacle-clearing trail through which Neustar may now >>>>> drive its HumVee. >>>>> >>>>> Thomas, I feel for ya. I was a vocal skeptic of your proposal but am >>>> even >>>>> more critical of a direct government-Neustar registry (both in >>>> process and >>>>> likely substance). I didn't expect that your project would seek out >>>>> defensive domains but I can feel fairly confident that a pure >>>> generic play >>>>> would consider defencives as part of their revenue mix. >>>>> >>>>> Personally, I've delighted that so few geoTLD proposals have come from >>>>> North America. I expect .québec for historical reasons (much >>>> conceptually >>>>> in common with .cat), and I consider the current plays for .nyc and >>>> .vegas >>>>> to be almost defensive TLDs themselves, given those cities' own branding >>>>> efforts.. The other two listed at http://www.citytld.com/ (for >>>> Ottawa and >>>>> San Francisco) appear dead >>>>> >>>>> Most of the others are proposed for Europe. What a massive waste of >>>> money >>>>> and time. I feel truly sorry for all the small businesses that will be >>>>> compelled to register defensively for those that roll out. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe there are so few North American ones because people here >>>> already see >>>>> what a bust ".us" is and figure that almost all the incumbents are >>>> Amercian >>>>> anyway. But I'll appreciate the sanity wherever I can find it. >>>>> >>>>> - Evan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Information Technology and Telecommunications Public Hearing* >>>>> >>>>> Notice is hereby given that a Contract Public Hearing will be held on >>>>> Friday, March 23, 2012 at DoITT, 2 MetroTech Center, 4th Floor, >>>> Brooklyn NY >>>>> 11209, commencing at 2:00 P.M. on the following: >>>>> >>>>> In the matter of a proposed contract between the Department of >>>> Information >>>>> Technology and Telecommunications and Neustar located at 21575 Ridgetop >>>>> Circle, Sterling, VA 20166, to apply for, and if obtained, operate, >>>>> administer, manage and market nyc. The term of the contract shall be for >>>>> five (5) years with two (2) five (5) year renewal options at the City’s >>>>> discretion. The contract is a Revenue contract, PIN: 85812P0001. >>>>> >>>>> *10/5/2009 City issues RFP for .nyc management >>>> <http://isoc-ny.org/?p=902> >>>>> >>>>> * >>>>> * >>>>> >>>>> Comment <http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3117#respond> See all >>>>> comments<http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3117#comments> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Trouble clicking?* Copy and paste this URL into your browser: >>>>> http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3117 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast >>>>> WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com >>>>> http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com >>>>> VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> - >>>>> ------ >>>>> NA-Discuss mailing list >>>>> NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>> <mailto:NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> >>>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss >>>>> >>>>> Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >>>>> ------ >>>>> >>>>> ------ >>>>> NA-Discuss mailing list >>>>> NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>> <mailto:NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> >>>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss >>>>> >>>>> Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >>>>> ------ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast >>>> WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com >>>> http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com >>>> VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> - >>> ------ >>> NA-Discuss mailing list >>> NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss >>> >>> Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >>> ------ >> >> >> ------ >> NA-Discuss mailing list >> NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss >> >> Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >> ------ > >Mr Michele Neylon >Blacknight Solutions ♞ >Hosting & Colocation, Brand Protection >ICANN Accredited Registrar >http://www.blacknight.com/ >http://blog.blacknight.com/ >http://blacknight.biz >http://mneylon.tel >Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 >US: 213-233-1612 >Locall: 1850 929 929 >Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 >Facebook: http://fb.me/blacknight >Twitter: http://twitter.com/mneylon >------------------------------- >Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty >Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845 >

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Re: [NA-Discuss] Concerning the NeuStar ~ New York City "public hearing"
by Beau Brendler March 27, 2012

March 27, 2012

Thomas, While I don't see it as the NA RALO's duty to support new TLD efforts, I do see it as our duty to help members of NA with ICANN issues in the public interest. The non-transparency of contract negotiations are certainly an issue in the public interest. Would it be helpful if I demand on behalf of NA RALO access to the contract in the public interest, in accordance with the ICANN affirmation of commitments? Or has the horse already left the barn, so to speak? I don't know how much power the RALO has, but I am more than willing to test it on your behalf, as we have done with the .PR issue, with conflict of interest, and other topics. Beau Brendler -----Original Message----- >From: Thomas Lowenhaupt <toml(a)communisphere.com> >Sent: Mar 27, 2012 1:52 AM >To: joly(a)punkcast.com >Cc: NA Discuss <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Concerning the NeuStar ~ New York City "public hearing" > >Joly, > >I've posted my notes from my Thursday morning opportunity to view the >proposed NeuStar contract here. ><http://www.coactivate.org/projects/campaign-for.nyc/blog/2012/03/23/first-v…> >They are quite incomplete. And that's really a sorry state of affairs, >because your notes and mine are the totality of reporting on the >portions of the contract that were made available to us. (As I've noted >in the sidebar of the written comments page, the meat of he contract is >not yet complete). > >The viewing period is over and the city has said "Sorry folks, you >missed it." That lack of transparency is my note #1. And the only one >that counts. No transparency no contract. (At least that's my view.) > >It's really quite amazing, sickening really. It's against the law in the >city to sell a pair of sneakers with a purchasing contract as opaque as >NeuStar's. But they'll get 15 years of revenue from our TLD, and we >can't see the contract. Astounding. > >Gale was as usual most clear. Thanks for getting her statement online. >Her comments would have been far more interesting had she been able to >see the contract. > >My 3-minutes of comments are probably best left on the cutting room >floor - was I foaming at the mouth? The written ones ><http://www.coactivate.org/projects/campaign-for.nyc/comments-to-doitt-on-pr…> >make a few important points. At the hearing the one point I was trying >to make was that DoITT should have been the last part of the acquisition >process, not the one and only. Research, public education and outreach, >city council hearings, and perhaps legislation preceding an IT >purchasing process. > >But I wasn't able to convince anyone here on NA Discuss that a city-TLD >was more significant than .banjo, and it's beginning to look not in the >city either. > >Best, > >Tom Lowenhaupt > > > >On 3/26/2012 1:35 PM, Joly MacFie wrote: >> While I support you in principle Tom, I did think at the hearing that >> your comments, rushed as they were in the three minutes available, >> were a little too philosophical when what was needed was sharp bullet >> points about shortcomings in the contract and process. >> >> I thought Gale Brewer did a fair job of this which is why I have >> posted the video of her testimony. >> http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3117&cpage=1#comment-8232 >> <http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3117&cpage=1#comment-8232> >> >> I will process the rest of the hearing so your comments can be seen >> and heard. >> >> My limited understanding, from a cursory viewing of the contract, >> >> * the City itself is nominally the applicant, but that Neustar will do >> the applying and pay the fees. >> * Neustar will pay the City something along the lines of 40% of >> revenue (gross? unclear) >> * there will be nexus requirements, and domains will be revocable if >> found not in compliance. >> * the city will spot check 50 domains a year for compliance. >> * there will be reserved names - as yet undetermined, for which the >> City will act as registrar. >> >> j >> >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Thomas Lowenhaupt >> <toml(a)communisphere.com <mailto:toml@communisphere.com>> wrote: >> > Evan, >> > >> > Your concerns are heart warming. >> > >> > New York City might be headed off a cliff with its application. The >> "public >> > hearing" Joly announced about a NeuStar ~ New York City arrangement >> > concerned a contract that is incomplete and therefore not available >> to the >> > public - see http://blog.connectingnyc.org (don't care about the >> issue - see >> > my friends BloomBORG for a giggle). >> > >> > Moving forward, I hope to find segments of the Internet community >> that will >> > join me in developing a plan / guidelines that will assist cities >> navigating >> > the shark infested registry-registrar waters, creating best >> practices, and >> > effectively governing their TLDs. I'll be announcing that early next >> week. >> > >> > In the meantime, in preparing my comments for the faux-public >> hearing, I'm >> > getting closer to answering your "What's so important about city-TLDs?" >> > question. It might be too late to help my home city, and I'm not >> 100% there >> > yet, but I hope the below begins to turn up the volume so that >> people will >> > begin to hear the music to which I dance. >> > >> > Best, >> > >> > Tom Lowenhaupt >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From my comments to the faux-hearing: >> > >> > What is a City-TLD? 3 Views >> > >> > Let's think back to the early 1800's when work began on what's now >> called >> > the Commissioners Plan of 1811. The Plan set out the city's street >> grid - >> > 1st to 155th Streets and 1st to 12th Avenues. It took 4 years and >> even then >> > they left out a few parts – like Central Park. And late in the >> process they >> > said “Let's put in Lexington Avenue.” Not by name mind you – but >> > conceptually. The Commissioners' Plan wasn't about names. And this >> city-TLD >> > is not, in its essence, about names. Names are part of both. But the >> core >> > elements are structure, order, and accountability. >> > >> > My view is that a .nyc is a scaffold for our culture and our treasures. >> > Think for a second about the New York Yankees. Yes, all the star players >> > have names. But its the combination of players, coaches, trainers, >> owners, >> > fans, and concessionaires selling hotdogs and beer that make the New >> York >> > Yankees a success. Each and every person in this list of what might be >> > called the “Yankees Network” has a name. But it's an effective >> > organizational structure and culture that makes the Yankees win. From my >> > perspective our city's TLD is a culture making tool. A scaffold for >> > organizing our resources. >> > >> > Let me tell you another view, one I'll call The Grand View (I'm >> thankful to >> > David Bollier's Viral Spiral for this.) – It involves the legendary Adam >> > Smith. Everyone is familiar with the impact of his The Wealth of >> Nations. To >> > some this 1776 economics treaties is their constitution and bible. In it >> > Smith wrote about people's penchant for what he called “truck, >> barter, and >> > exchange” - markets and capitalism. Today his thoughts serve as a >> basis for >> > our global economy. >> > >> > In another work, The Theory of Moral Sentiments, Smith wrote about “deep >> > impulses of human sympathy and morality” that included the most >> important of >> > human traits – sharing, loving, caring, sympathy, empathy. The Grand >> View >> > holds that the .nyc TLD is a organizing force for digitizing these most >> > important human impulses. At first glance, to an old timer like me, this >> > sounded like crazy talk. But when I look at developments like >> Wikipedia and >> > the Open Source movement, I see Smith's “deep impulses of human >> sympathy and >> > morality” played out on a daily basis. Projects like these are all about >> > people sharing to help one another. >> > >> > So 250 years later Adam Smith's sympathetic half may reach fruition >> through >> > Internet resources like the .nyc TLD. Because now we have a tool to more >> > effectively identify, count, track, and value the good. >> > >> > Imagine our city with a 1,000 Wikipedia scale projects. Efforts like: >> > >> > JacksonHeights.nyc >> > >> > GreenwichVillage.nyc >> > >> > Harlem.nyc >> > >> > Voters.nyc >> > >> > CivicIssues.nyc >> > >> > CandidatesForMayor.nyc >> > >> > So what's a city-TLD? It's a powerful planning and organizing tool >> that can >> > improve our city and our lives during the foreseeable future. >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > >> > On 3/22/2012 4:45 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote: >> > >> > On 22 March 2012 15:10, Joly MacFie <joly(a)punkcast.com >> <mailto:joly@punkcast.com>> wrote: >> > >> > >> > A public hearing on NYC's allocation of the .nyc contract to >> > Neustar will be held tomorrow, Friday, in Brooklyn. >> > >> > >> > Looks like all of Thomas Lowenhaupt's multiple years of hard work >> > advocating for a community-focused .nyc TLD for may turn out to have >> been >> > blazing a rugged, obstacle-clearing trail through which Neustar may now >> > drive its HumVee. >> > >> > Thomas, I feel for ya. I was a vocal skeptic of your proposal but am >> even >> > more critical of a direct government-Neustar registry (both in >> process and >> > likely substance). I didn't expect that your project would seek out >> > defensive domains but I can feel fairly confident that a pure >> generic play >> > would consider defencives as part of their revenue mix. >> > >> > Personally, I've delighted that so few geoTLD proposals have come from >> > North America. I expect .québec for historical reasons (much >> conceptually >> > in common with .cat), and I consider the current plays for .nyc and >> .vegas >> > to be almost defensive TLDs themselves, given those cities' own branding >> > efforts.. The other two listed at http://www.citytld.com/ (for >> Ottawa and >> > San Francisco) appear dead >> > >> > Most of the others are proposed for Europe. What a massive waste of >> money >> > and time. I feel truly sorry for all the small businesses that will be >> > compelled to register defensively for those that roll out. >> > >> > Maybe there are so few North American ones because people here >> already see >> > what a bust ".us" is and figure that almost all the incumbents are >> Amercian >> > anyway. But I'll appreciate the sanity wherever I can find it. >> > >> > - Evan >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > *Information Technology and Telecommunications Public Hearing* >> > >> > Notice is hereby given that a Contract Public Hearing will be held on >> > Friday, March 23, 2012 at DoITT, 2 MetroTech Center, 4th Floor, >> Brooklyn NY >> > 11209, commencing at 2:00 P.M. on the following: >> > >> > In the matter of a proposed contract between the Department of >> Information >> > Technology and Telecommunications and Neustar located at 21575 Ridgetop >> > Circle, Sterling, VA 20166, to apply for, and if obtained, operate, >> > administer, manage and market nyc. The term of the contract shall be for >> > five (5) years with two (2) five (5) year renewal options at the City’s >> > discretion. The contract is a Revenue contract, PIN: 85812P0001. >> > >> > *10/5/2009 City issues RFP for .nyc management >> <http://isoc-ny.org/?p=902> >> > >> > * >> > * >> > >> > Comment <http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3117#respond> See all >> > comments<http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3117#comments> >> > >> > >> > *Trouble clicking?* Copy and paste this URL into your browser: >> > http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3117 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > --------------------------------------------------------------- >> > Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast >> > WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com >> > http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com >> > VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org >> > -------------------------------------------------------------- >> > - >> > ------ >> > NA-Discuss mailing list >> > NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> <mailto:NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> >> > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss >> > >> > Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >> > ------ >> > >> > ------ >> > NA-Discuss mailing list >> > NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> <mailto:NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> >> > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss >> > >> > Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >> > ------ >> >> >> >> -- >> --------------------------------------------------------------- >> Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast >> WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com >> http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com >> VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >------ >NA-Discuss mailing list >NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > >Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >------

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Re: [NA-Discuss] On ICANN and Conflict of Interest
by Beau Brendler March 27, 2012

March 27, 2012

Thank you, Evan. I hope members of the region weigh in with some feedback. It is heartening to see the broader ALAC regard this important issue with concern. Beau -----Original Message----- >From: Evan Leibovitch <evan(a)telly.org> >Sent: Mar 26, 2012 4:28 PM >To: NARALO Discussion List <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: [NA-Discuss] On ICANN and Conflict of Interest > >Hello all, > >As some of you might recall, CofI became a very hot topic for ALAC at the >Costa Rica ICANN meetings, in no small part thanks to NARALO's and Beau's >efforts. > >Beau proposed a NARALO motion which is still on the record and can >certainly be sent in its current form. In order to make it more palatable >without (hopefully) dulling the tone or the intent of the message, a number >of people have take a stab at a statement which could be adapted by all >ALAC. In Costa Rica, committed to Beau that I would be submitting a >statement on the issue for consideration a the next ALAC meeting since we >ran out of time that week. > >The present workspace where this is being debated is at >https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+ICANN+Board+Conf… >-- >it includes a number of suggested statements including one of my own. > >Please have a look and comment. Especially helpful would be feedback for my >own version, found near the bottom of the page. > >Thanks! > >-- >Evan Leibovitch >Toronto Canada > >Em: evan at telly dot org >Sk: evanleibovitch >Tw: el56 >------ >NA-Discuss mailing list >NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > >Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >------

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.nyc contract hearing friday 3/23 in Brooklyn
by Joly MacFie March 27, 2012

March 27, 2012

I will record this. j ** [image: dot nyc notice]<http://isoc-ny.org/p2/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/late-notice.png>A public hearing on NYC's allocation of the .nyc contract to Neustar will be held tomorrow, Friday, in Brooklyn. *Information Technology and Telecommunications Public Hearing* Notice is hereby given that a Contract Public Hearing will be held on Friday, March 23, 2012 at DoITT, 2 MetroTech Center, 4th Floor, Brooklyn NY 11209, commencing at 2:00 P.M. on the following: In the matter of a proposed contract between the Department of Information Technology and Telecommunications and Neustar located at 21575 Ridgetop Circle, Sterling, VA 20166, to apply for, and if obtained, operate, administer, manage and market nyc. The term of the contract shall be for five (5) years with two (2) five (5) year renewal options at the City’s discretion. The contract is a Revenue contract, PIN: 85812P0001. *10/5/2009 City issues RFP for .nyc management <http://isoc-ny.org/?p=902> * * Comment <http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3117#respond> See all comments<http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3117#comments> *Trouble clicking?* Copy and paste this URL into your browser: http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=3117 -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- -

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On ICANN and Conflict of Interest
by Evan Leibovitch March 26, 2012

March 26, 2012

Hello all, As some of you might recall, CofI became a very hot topic for ALAC at the Costa Rica ICANN meetings, in no small part thanks to NARALO's and Beau's efforts. Beau proposed a NARALO motion which is still on the record and can certainly be sent in its current form. In order to make it more palatable without (hopefully) dulling the tone or the intent of the message, a number of people have take a stab at a statement which could be adapted by all ALAC. In Costa Rica, committed to Beau that I would be submitting a statement on the issue for consideration a the next ALAC meeting since we ran out of time that week. The present workspace where this is being debated is at https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+ICANN+Board+Conf… -- it includes a number of suggested statements including one of my own. Please have a look and comment. Especially helpful would be feedback for my own version, found near the bottom of the page. Thanks! -- Evan Leibovitch Toronto Canada Em: evan at telly dot org Sk: evanleibovitch Tw: el56

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Re: [NA-Discuss] Short Videos
by Glenn McKnight March 24, 2012

March 24, 2012

Hi All Here is the posted videos from Costa Rica . They will be a great resource for the online ICANN Academy allowing the learners access to short and first person unscripted opinions on various topics. In some cases I had to film where I could get a spot and work with people's schedules so the sound could be better. I would like to thank all those who participated. If you have any suggestions for topics for me to film in Prague let me know. In the interim here is the links, these films will be provided to Matt @ ICANN and to our ICANN Moodle site http://moodle.movableoffice.net/login/index.php Topics and Links Videos History of LACRALO with Jackie Morris and Carlton Samuels http://youtu.be/WK_PyMVz6jc Wolfgang Kleinwaechter One Minute on Internet Governance http://youtu.be/1rgPKrNCBYQ Wolfgang Kleinwaechter Internet Governance Longer version http://youtu.be/2j5wQsXR7Lk Sébastien Bachollet on ICANN Board Structure http://youtu.be/NerkJo2hGzw Sébastien Bachollet discusses his Involvement @ ICANN http://youtu.be/rYP8SUZn94c Maria Farrell speaks about the Non Commercial Stakeholder Group on Privacy http://youtu.be/9VzLjsnBOn8 Maria Farrell speaks about the Non Commercial Stakeholder Group http://youtu.be/-Ku2oDiUZQg Beau Brendler, NARALO Chair on Growth of the Internet http://youtu.be/y8hftq-sN8k Beau Brendler on Compliance http://youtu.be/-bM5ydYBbBE <http://youtu.be/-bM5ydYBbBE> Dan York Internet Society Simplify the DNS Deployment http://youtu.be/jW3XZYLjcQ0 Olof Nordling on the Address Support Organizations http://youtu.be/YVsI6jJhYbU Seith Reiss: Invitation to get involved in Whois Taskforce http://youtu.be/-wUvbXuWMgA Seth Reiss talks about Getting Involved with WHOIS http://youtu.be/Q5HZvjf4uJA Olivier Crépin-Leblond Discussion of ALAC http://youtu.be/_p0tF4iV-_U Olivier Crépin-Leblond Short Description of ALAC http://youtu.be/43hrLtB2qi4 Glenn McKnight NARALO Member NOMCOM Committee ICANN Academy

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Seth Reiss Invitation to Join WHOIS Committee
by Glenn McKnight March 21, 2012

March 21, 2012

http://youtu.be/-wUvbXuWMgA Seith's short video to invite people to get involved with WHOIS Taskforce Glenn -- Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn(a)gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight Http://www.globalcatalysts.com http://newsocialmedia.wordpress.com

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Seth Reiss Video Clip on WHOIS
by Glenn McKnight March 21, 2012

March 21, 2012

http://youtu.be/Q5HZvjf4uJA * * *Here is Seth Reiss's first video * -- Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn(a)gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight Http://www.globalcatalysts.com http://newsocialmedia.wordpress.com

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Regrets
by Glenn McKnight March 18, 2012

March 18, 2012

Hi All I would like to send my apologies of not attending Thursday night get together at the Doubletree. I had dental surgery in the morning and I wasn't able to drink not eat combined with the need for sleep It has a very productive ICANN meeting which I was able to gather new video footage from Seth Reiss on WHOIS, Olivier on AT LARGE Governance, Maria on STAKEHOLDERS, Jackie and Carelton on the HISTORY OF LACRALO( No comment[?]) and more. I need to edit them and share them with Matt Assanti this week. I was also able to present the shorter version of the video, detail the progress of the survey and provide an overview of the ICANN Academy Moodle project plus attend each day NOMCOM Meetings. I hope to catch up in Prague with good Pilsner with all of you. I was great to see everyone again and look forward to our next meeting -- Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn(a)gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight Http://www.globalcatalysts.com http://newsocialmedia.wordpress.com

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Re: [NA-Discuss] Revised short Video
by Beau Brendler March 15, 2012

March 15, 2012

Outstanding! Time to go public. I am going to put this on Facebook, tweet it, and put it into my forthcoming article for Internet Evolution (should be published next week). Please feel free to promote at will! -----Original Message----- >From: "Thompson, Darlene" <DThompson1(a)gov.nu.ca> >Sent: Dec 15, 2011 2:21 PM >To: Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn(a)gmail.com> >Cc: Heidi Ullrich <Heidi.Ullrich(a)icann.org>, Seth Greene <Seth.Greene(a)icann.org>, "na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org" <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Revised short Video > >Freaking awesome work and is getting better with each itteration! > >D > >Darlene A. Thompson >CAP Administrator >N-CAP/Department of Education >P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 >Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 >Phone: (867) 975-5631 >Fax: (867) 975-5610 >dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca >________________________________________ >From: na-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [na-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Glenn McKnight [mcknight.glenn(a)gmail.com] >Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 7:17 PM >Cc: Heidi Ullrich; Seth Greene; na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >Subject: [NA-Discuss] Revised short Video > >Hi All > >Thanks to the feedback from Beau and Scott I have completed a second >version of the short video for your consumption > >http://youtu.be/WUPdiKLXX-0 > >Glenn > >-- >Glenn McKnight >mcknight.glenn(a)gmail.com >skype gmcknight >twitter gmcknight >Http://www.globalcatalysts.com >http://newsocialmedia.wordpress.com >------ >NA-Discuss mailing list >NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > >Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >------ > >------ >NA-Discuss mailing list >NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > >Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >------

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