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Re: [NA-Discuss] UDRP Typo correction
by ebw＠abenaki.wabanaki.net July 21, 2011

July 21, 2011

I made a typo in my prior note. I omitted a critical "to identify" in the second use summary of the UDRP. The sentence: > The UDRP is now also used to provide a means to prevent market injury, to > marks holders, by third parties (aka "consumers") who use marks to harms > with manufacturers. Should read: The UDRP is now also used to provide a means to prevent market injury, to marks holders, by third parties (aka "consumers") who use marks to identifiy harms with manufacturers. This refers to "some-mark-sucks" usage. Eric

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Re: [NA-Discuss] UDRP
by ebw＠abenaki.wabanaki.net July 21, 2011

July 21, 2011

Beau, I don't see any reason not to, but one or more of those he makes his case to could read his 48pp paper. It is in my reading queue, but not at the top. A concern I have that I didn't think should, by itself, be sufficient to embark upon a PDP (not that my thoughts one way or another have any influence over the members of the GNSO Council) was distinguishing the application of this DRP as a means to protect the marks holders interests in preventing dillution -- the "kleenex" effect, and its application as a means to protect the marks holders interest in suppressing speech critical of their brands, and its application as a means to protect the marks holders interests in influencing search engine outcomes. That is, the UDRP was intended to provide an equitable, efficient means to prevent dillution injury, to marks holders, and to third parties (aka "consumers") who use marks to identifiy benefits with manufacturers. The UDRP is now also used to provide a means to prevent market injury, to marks holders, by third parties (aka "consumers") who use marks to harms with manufacturers. The UDRP is also now used to provide a means to create market value, to marks holders, by third parties (aka "advertizers") who use marks to monitize suppressed NXDOMAIN returns to resolvers. George Kirkos identified the second concern, the "free speech" issue. Domainers, domain tasting, and Sitefinder (wildcarding) and its follow ons, are the third issue. Both can be addressed without radical revision of the original, and reasonably well implemented first purpose. But neither should be ignored, and a jurisdictional proposal arising from a correlation may miss actual causation, and simply advance a jurisdictionally limited "public interest" theory in place of a "public interest" both jurisdictionally dependent, and jurisdictionally independent. I think the ALAC purpose is to attempt to find the jurisdictionally independent public interest, and the GAC's purpose is to attempt to find the jurisdictionally dependent public interest. In writing a draft proposed ALAC response to the Initial Issues Report by ICANN Staff on the UDRP, I proposed no PDP at the present time, but the inclusion of the "free speech" issue among those to be considered by a small group of experts looking at implementation improvements, as proposed by ICANN Staff. Again, I've not read his paper, or his prior scholarship on things ICANN-esque (routed data network policy) or similar (switched voice network policy). An excellent review of the third issue is in Tyler Moore and Ben Edelman's 2010 paper "Measuring the Perpetrators and Funders of Typosquatting", proceeding of the 14th Int. Conf. on Financial Cryptography and Data Security. It introduces the issue with the registration of kaplan.com in 1994 by Kaplan's competitor Princeton Review and proceeds to cybersquatting generally as an economic activity. Eric

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Re: [NA-Discuss] UDRP
by Beau Brendler July 21, 2011

July 21, 2011

His recommendations are: "First, ICANN should adopt a choice of law provision stating that the law of the respondent’s home country governs fair use disputes. ” “Second, ICANN should implement a panel assignment provision in fair use cases that requires arbitrators to share the nationalities of the litigants." Should we invite this prof to make this case to NA and/or ALAC? -----Original Message----- >From: Danny Younger <dannyyounger(a)yahoo.com> >Sent: Jul 20, 2011 4:03 PM >To: "na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org" <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: [NA-Discuss] UDRP > >As the ALAC prepares to consider its statement on the UDRP, an article has appeared citing a Harvard study that recommends certain changes -- see http://www.thedomains.com/2011/07/20/a-harvard-law-school-professor-publish… >------ >NA-Discuss mailing list >NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > >Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >------

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Re: [NA-Discuss] New gTLDs Video
by Beau Brendler July 20, 2011

July 20, 2011

Did anyone from ICANN collaborate with the user community on content for this video, does anyone know? In my opinion they should be making these types of things in collaboration with the at-large. -----Original Message----- >From: "Thompson, Darlene" <DThompson1(a)gov.nu.ca> >Sent: Jul 18, 2011 2:17 PM >To: "na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org" <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: [NA-Discuss] New gTLDs Video > >ICANN has a new video on new gTLDs out for beginners. Its quite good. You can check it out at www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org> (near the bottom). > >D > > >ᑕᓕᓐ ᑕᒻᓴᓐ >ᓄᓇᓕᖕᓂ ᖃᕆᓴᐅᔭᕐᕕᒋᔭᐅᔪᓐᓇᕐᑐᓄᑦ ᑎᑎᕋᖅᑎ >ᑮᓇᐅᔭᓕᕆᓂᕐᒧᑦ ᐊᐅᓚᑦᑎᔨᒃᑯᑦ ᐱᔨᑦᑎᕋᖅᕕᖓᑦ >ᐃᓕᓐᓂᐊᕐᓂᓕᕆᔨᒃᑯᑦ >ᓄᓇᕗᑦ ᒐᕙᒪᖓᑦ >ᑎᑎᖅᑲᓂᐊᕐᕕᖓ 1000, ᐊᓪᓚᕝᕕᖓ 910 >ᐃᖃᓗᐃᑦ, ᓄᓇᕗᑦ >dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca >ᐅᖄᓚᐅᑎ: 867 975-5631 >ᓱᑲᑦᑐᒃᑰᕈᑎ: 867 975-5610 > > >Taliin Taamsan >Nunalingni >Qaritauyani Atuqtauningitnun Titiraqtia Nunavut Kavamangat >Titiraqarvia 1000, >Nayugaa 910 >Iqaluit, Nunavut >dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca >Hivayautik : 867 975-5631 >Kayumiktuk : 867 975-5610 > >Darlene Thompson >Community Access Program Administrator >Corporate Services Division >Department of Education >Government of Nunavut >PO Box 1000, Station 910 >Iqaluit, Nunavut, X0A 0H0 >dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca >Ph: 867 975-5631 >Fax: 867 975-5610 > >Darlene Thompson >Administratrice du programme d’accès communautaire >Division des services ministériels >Ministère de l’Éducation >Gouvernement du Nunavut >Case postale 1000, Succursale 910 >Iqaluit Nunavut, X0A 0H0 >dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca >Tél. : 867 975-5631 >Téléc. : 867 975-5610 > > >------ >NA-Discuss mailing list >NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > >Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >------

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At-Large article in July Policy Update
by Seth Greene July 20, 2011

July 20, 2011

Hello, all, The July 2011 issue of the ICANN Policy Update<http://www.icann.org/en/topics/policy/update-jul11-en.htm> contains two articles regarding At-Large: - At-Large Singapore Highlights<http://www.icann.org/en/topics/policy/update-jul11-en.htm#15>; and - Outreach for At-Large Expands in Eastern Europe<http://www.icann.org/en/topics/policy/update-jul11-en.htm#16> The second article, of particular interest, describes a first for At-Large and EURALO outreach: the first monthly EURALO Secretariat's Report posted in both English and Russian. Hope you enjoy these, Seth ______ Seth Greene Interim Manager, At-Large Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Telephone: + 1 (212) 662-7723 E-mail: seth.greene(a)icann.org<mailto:seth.greene@icann.org>

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NARALO ALAC Election
by Thompson, Darlene July 20, 2011

July 20, 2011

Hi all, Please note that it is also time for our annual ALAC election. Please see two excerpts from our Rules of Procedure: 10. These members will serve for terms of two (2) years and may not serve more than two consecutive terms totaling more than 40 months. Each new ALAC member selected by the NARALO will be seated at the close of ICANN's annual meeting. ALAC members filling a vacancy will be seated immediately following their nomination. … 11. At least once a year, on or before the First of July, or whenever a vacancy arises, the NARALO shall issue a call for Statements of Interest from members of the North American Internet community to serve on the ALAC. The call for Statements of Interest shall be open for at least 30 days. New ALAC members will be selected and announced sufficiently in advance of ICANN's annual meeting to allow them to be seated as required by Paragraph 10. Gareth Shearman’s first full term has now come to a close. He is still qualified to serve for one more term if he chooses to stand for election. The Call for Statements of Interest is now open and will close on August 19, 2011. If anyone is interested in this position, please send your SOI to the list. An election will follow shortly after August 19, 2011. My apologies for not catching the July 1 deadline but, fortunately, we still have plenty of time before the next meeting for this election process. D ᑕᓕᓐ ᑕᒻᓴᓐ ᓄᓇᓕᖕᓂ ᖃᕆᓴᐅᔭᕐᕕᒋᔭᐅᔪᓐᓇᕐᑐᓄᑦ ᑎᑎᕋᖅᑎ ᑮᓇᐅᔭᓕᕆᓂᕐᒧᑦ ᐊᐅᓚᑦᑎᔨᒃᑯᑦ ᐱᔨᑦᑎᕋᖅᕕᖓᑦ ᐃᓕᓐᓂᐊᕐᓂᓕᕆᔨᒃᑯᑦ ᓄᓇᕗᑦ ᒐᕙᒪᖓᑦ ᑎᑎᖅᑲᓂᐊᕐᕕᖓ 1000, ᐊᓪᓚᕝᕕᖓ 910 ᐃᖃᓗᐃᑦ, ᓄᓇᕗᑦ dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca ᐅᖄᓚᐅᑎ: 867 975-5631 ᓱᑲᑦᑐᒃᑰᕈᑎ: 867 975-5610 Taliin Taamsan Nunalingni Qaritauyani Atuqtauningitnun Titiraqtia Nunavut Kavamangat Titiraqarvia 1000, Nayugaa 910 Iqaluit, Nunavut dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca Hivayautik : 867 975-5631 Kayumiktuk : 867 975-5610 Darlene Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Corporate Services Division Department of Education Government of Nunavut PO Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, Nunavut, X0A 0H0 dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca Ph: 867 975-5631 Fax: 867 975-5610 Darlene Thompson Administratrice du programme d’accès communautaire Division des services ministériels Ministère de l’Éducation Gouvernement du Nunavut Case postale 1000, Succursale 910 Iqaluit Nunavut, X0A 0H0 dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca Tél. : 867 975-5631 Téléc. : 867 975-5610

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Further to yesterday's teleconference
by Gareth Shearman July 19, 2011

July 19, 2011

As we agreed, I will take oversight on the NARALO projects funded in the current ICANN budget year. Seth is to look into the internal arrangements for funding the projects. Joly and Glenn want to work on the video production Glen, Beau and Alan Skuce have agreed to work on the survey. Have I missed anyone? Does anyone else want to jump into this mix? Gareth

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Dial in for Today's Call
by Thompson, Darlene July 18, 2011

July 18, 2011

Hi all, It seems that when you click on “How do I participate” for today’s call its sending people to Outlook again. Please note that the coordinates for today’s call is 1-800-550-6865, passcode 1638. D ᑕᓕᓐ ᑕᒻᓴᓐ ᓄᓇᓕᖕᓂ ᖃᕆᓴᐅᔭᕐᕕᒋᔭᐅᔪᓐᓇᕐᑐᓄᑦ ᑎᑎᕋᖅᑎ ᑮᓇᐅᔭᓕᕆᓂᕐᒧᑦ ᐊᐅᓚᑦᑎᔨᒃᑯᑦ ᐱᔨᑦᑎᕋᖅᕕᖓᑦ ᐃᓕᓐᓂᐊᕐᓂᓕᕆᔨᒃᑯᑦ ᓄᓇᕗᑦ ᒐᕙᒪᖓᑦ ᑎᑎᖅᑲᓂᐊᕐᕕᖓ 1000, ᐊᓪᓚᕝᕕᖓ 910 ᐃᖃᓗᐃᑦ, ᓄᓇᕗᑦ dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca ᐅᖄᓚᐅᑎ: 867 975-5631 ᓱᑲᑦᑐᒃᑰᕈᑎ: 867 975-5610 Taliin Taamsan Nunalingni Qaritauyani Atuqtauningitnun Titiraqtia Nunavut Kavamangat Titiraqarvia 1000, Nayugaa 910 Iqaluit, Nunavut dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca Hivayautik : 867 975-5631 Kayumiktuk : 867 975-5610 Darlene Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Corporate Services Division Department of Education Government of Nunavut PO Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, Nunavut, X0A 0H0 dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca Ph: 867 975-5631 Fax: 867 975-5610 Darlene Thompson Administratrice du programme d’accès communautaire Division des services ministériels Ministère de l’Éducation Gouvernement du Nunavut Case postale 1000, Succursale 910 Iqaluit Nunavut, X0A 0H0 dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca Tél. : 867 975-5631 Téléc. : 867 975-5610

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New gTLDs Video
by Thompson, Darlene July 18, 2011

July 18, 2011

ICANN has a new video on new gTLDs out for beginners. Its quite good. You can check it out at www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org> (near the bottom). D ᑕᓕᓐ ᑕᒻᓴᓐ ᓄᓇᓕᖕᓂ ᖃᕆᓴᐅᔭᕐᕕᒋᔭᐅᔪᓐᓇᕐᑐᓄᑦ ᑎᑎᕋᖅᑎ ᑮᓇᐅᔭᓕᕆᓂᕐᒧᑦ ᐊᐅᓚᑦᑎᔨᒃᑯᑦ ᐱᔨᑦᑎᕋᖅᕕᖓᑦ ᐃᓕᓐᓂᐊᕐᓂᓕᕆᔨᒃᑯᑦ ᓄᓇᕗᑦ ᒐᕙᒪᖓᑦ ᑎᑎᖅᑲᓂᐊᕐᕕᖓ 1000, ᐊᓪᓚᕝᕕᖓ 910 ᐃᖃᓗᐃᑦ, ᓄᓇᕗᑦ dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca ᐅᖄᓚᐅᑎ: 867 975-5631 ᓱᑲᑦᑐᒃᑰᕈᑎ: 867 975-5610 Taliin Taamsan Nunalingni Qaritauyani Atuqtauningitnun Titiraqtia Nunavut Kavamangat Titiraqarvia 1000, Nayugaa 910 Iqaluit, Nunavut dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca Hivayautik : 867 975-5631 Kayumiktuk : 867 975-5610 Darlene Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Corporate Services Division Department of Education Government of Nunavut PO Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, Nunavut, X0A 0H0 dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca Ph: 867 975-5631 Fax: 867 975-5610 Darlene Thompson Administratrice du programme d’accès communautaire Division des services ministériels Ministère de l’Éducation Gouvernement du Nunavut Case postale 1000, Succursale 910 Iqaluit Nunavut, X0A 0H0 dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca Tél. : 867 975-5631 Téléc. : 867 975-5610

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Re: [NA-Discuss] REMINDER: NARALO TELECONFERENCE - Monday, 18 July 19:00 UTC
by Beau Brendler July 18, 2011

July 18, 2011

Can the NARALO chair nominate someone? Does the person nominated have to know about it in advance? -----Original Message----- >From: "Thompson, Darlene" <DThompson1(a)gov.nu.ca> >Sent: Jul 18, 2011 8:42 AM >To: 'Marilyn Vernon' <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org>, "na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org" <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] REMINDER: NARALO TELECONFERENCE - Monday, 18 July 19:00 UTC > >We may wish to add an agenda item on the NARALO 2012 delegate to the Nominating Committee. > >D > >Darlene A. Thompson >Community Access Program Administrator >Nunavut Dept. of Education / N-CAP >P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 >Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 >Phone: (867) 975-5631 >Fax: (867) 975-5610 >E-mail: dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca > > >-----Original Message----- >From: na-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Marilyn Vernon >Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 9:45 PM >To: na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >Cc: ICANN At-Large Staff >Subject: [NA-Discuss] REMINDER: NARALO TELECONFERENCE - Monday, 18 July 19:00 UTC > >Dear All, > >The next NARALO teleconference is scheduled for Monday, 18 July 2011 at >19:00 UTC. > >The agenda (to be updated) and call details can be found at: >https://community.icann.org/x/HIAUAQ > >If you require a dial-out please contact At-Large staff at: >staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org>. > >-- >Regards, > >Heidi Ullrich, Gisella Gruber-White, Seth Greene, Marilyn Vernon, Matt >Ashtiani >ICANN At-Large Staff > > >------ >NA-Discuss mailing list >NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > >Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >------ > >------ >NA-Discuss mailing list >NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss > >Visit the NARALO online at http://www.naralo.org >------

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