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Auctioning of new gTLD's response.
by Jeffrey A. Williams Aug. 9, 2008

Aug. 9, 2008

To whom it may and should concern, Interestingly enough, I personally agree with Vittorios arguments with why auctioning off new gTLD's is wrong, or in my own opinion, a very bad idea. See: http://forum.icann.org/lists/auction-consultation/msg00003.html What's worse coming from our members a bit at a time, is that they are of the belief, and I also feel rightly so, that setting this sort of precedent for implementing new gTLD's or IDN gTLD's is very bad as it sets up a pricing war akin to speculation as being done with oil futures. Such benefits only the wealthy or wealthy organizations, which does not promote good competition or realistic and fair ecommerce trade. Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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[Fwd: Re: [At-Large] Updates to New gTLD Program Implementationandauctioning model.]
by Jeffrey A. Williams Aug. 9, 2008

Aug. 9, 2008

All, As an FYI -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [At-Large] Updates to New gTLD Program Implementationandauctioning model. Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:34:20 -0700 From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com> Organization: IDNS and Spokesman for INEGroup To: Hong Xue <hongxueipr(a)gmail.com>,NameCritic <namecritic(a)blogs.pn>,at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org References: <489DB449.9050507(a)vande-walle.eu><54535d540808091503k51f6fd61w9050270d7483197c(a)mail.gmail.com><008401c8fa80$a76ebf30$0201a8c0@namecritic> <54535d540808091829x456983e6t38f57633bd7d813f(a)mail.gmail.com> Hong and all, I would agree. But that's not the "ICANN Way", and never has been, and will not likely be unless or until they are forced to do so. Only DOC/NTIA can accomplish such, which is also not likely but does provide a ray of hope. ICANN needs/wants lots of $$. Auctioning off gTLD's or IDN gTLD's is a good way of accumulating a goodly sum in a fairly short period of time. My silent inside sources today have told me this is already a "Done Deal". The announcment was only to give the appearance that such is only now a consideration up for discussion/debate. A debate rat hole. Happy rat hole chasing/discussing/debating! >:) Hong Xue wrote: > What Chris said reminds me of the ALAC statement at the ICANN Public Forum: > ICANN should encourage the IDN gTLDs be run by the small-scale, > non-commercial and language community-base registries. But under the auction > model, these applicants will be simply out of the question. > > Hong > > On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 8:33 AM, NameCritic <namecritic(a)blogs.pn> wrote: > > > I couldn't agree more and in addition to that, ICANN's staff and BoD seems > > to think the only viable business plan for a registry or TLD owner is to > > sell domain names. What if a person has different goals or a business plan > > that is unique and not just money-motivated, yet they prove they can manage > > a TLD from a technical standpoint? > > > > They could be giving domain names away and it should not matter to ICANN > > and ICANN should not assume they know a good business plan from a bad one. > > It is not their function, nor is it their strong suit to evaluate business > > plans. > > > > Even those in the past who thought they were qualified to do so shot down > > business plans because they did not see them as a standard type of plan or > > one they thought would work. Take Xerox giving away their technlogy for > > computer interface or hewlett packard turning down the pc or IBM passing up > > opportunities in the software business. > > > > When ICANN puts itself into the position of having to approve the business > > plan of a prospective TLD owner, they put themselves in the liable position > > of having approved that business plan should it fail. If they do not approve > > someone's business plan, then they are restricting free enterprise and free > > trade by not allowing them to try it. > > > > ICANN's process of approving TLDs and putting prohibitive costs on the > > process is flawed and favors large business over small business. This is not > > fair to small business owners and those at ICANN know it. > > > > Years ago, the federal gov approved 60 million dollars to remodel houses in > > downtown Philadelphia. They told the city that they could have the money > > only if they also allowed small contractors to bid on those jobs rather than > > just the big companies. The city agreed. Then behind closed doors, after > > accepting the money, they decided to add a stipulation. That anyone could > > bid those jobs, but they would have to pay for all the materials and labor > > out of pocket and wait one year after completion to be reimbursed by the > > city. They knew full well this meant that small contractors would not be > > able to do so. > > > > ICANN, by charging such a high fee is barring small business owners from > > creating their own TLD while they tell everyoine it is open to everyone. > > It's a scam. > > > > Chris McElroy > > Dot SEO TLD > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hong Xue" <hongxueipr(a)gmail.com> > > To: <patrick(a)vande-walle.eu> > > Cc: <at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 6:03 PM > > Subject: Re: [At-Large] Updates to New gTLD Program Implementation > > andauctioning model. > > > > > > > > Thanks for drawing our attention on this paper. Given that the new gTLD > >> process embraces the IDN TLDs, the paper presents a very surprising, or > >> shocking view, on allocation of TLDs. If the paper is primarily on the > >> economic consideration, I wonder if the ICANN has any other consideration, > >> such as protecting cultural diversity and bridging digital divide, on > >> selection of new gTLDs (IDN gTLDs). As a governing body of a critical > >> Internet resources, ICANN should envisage the values that are more > >> important > >> and fundamental than the highest bidding amount. I echo what has been > >> precisely stated by Vittorio: > >> > >> Another wrong assumption is that monetary value is the only quantity that > >> counts.In fact, personally I think that the "value" of a TLD is mostly > >> connected to other factors. For example, one is how many final users of > >> the > >> Internet will ever use services located inside that TLD; another one is > >> how > >> strongly these people will feel attached to that TLD, i.e. whether the TLD > >> contributes to build any kind of "community identity" for an online group > >> of > >> people that presently does not have it; a third one is whether the new TLD > >> will spawn innovative uses of the DNS or enable innovative services. None > >> of > >> these is directly connected to monetary value, and it is quite disturbing > >> to > >> me that an organization like ICANN, which is meant to steward scarce > >> global > >> public resources in the interest of the entire community of the Internet, > >> still seems to have such a partial and narrow view of where the value of > >> the > >> Internet itself lies. > >> Hong > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Patrick Vande Walle > >> <patrick(a)vande-walle.eu > >> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >> > >> http://icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-08aug08-en.htm > >>> > >>> ICANN has published a paper from its contractor PowerAuctions LLC, > >>> regarding the use of auctions to award new TLD strings in case of > >>> contention. > >>> > >>> http://icann.org/en/topics/economic-case-auctions-08aug08-en.pdf > >>> > >>> I think it would be important that the At Large speaks up. The model > >>> proposed in the document is a purely capitalistic one. It is based on > >>> the assumption that all gTLDs are created to make as much money as > >>> possible. Smaller, community based TLDs seem quite difficult to launch > >>> in such context. > >>> > >>> The mere possibility of auctions will actually generate contention on > >>> some strings. The little guys wishing to establish a not-for-profit TLD > >>> will be outplayed by the wealthy ones. > >>> > >>> A public forum has been established at > >>> http://forum.icann.org/lists/auction-consultation/. > >>> Comments to auction-consultation(a)icann.org before 8 September 2008. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Patrick Vande Walle > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> At-Large mailing list > >>> At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >>> > >>> > >>> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large_atlarge-lists.ican… > >>> > >>> At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >> At-Large mailing list > >> At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >> > >> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large_atlarge-lists.ican… > >> > >> At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org > >> > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > At-Large mailing list > At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large_atlarge-lists.ican… > > At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org

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[Fwd: [Fwd 6th no reason given to: Re: [At-Large] Updates to New gTLD Program Implementationandauctioning model.]]
by Jeffrey A. Williams Aug. 9, 2008

Aug. 9, 2008

All, Again yet another censorship sad comentary... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Fwd 6th no reason given to: Re: [At-Large] Updates to New gTLD Program Implementationandauctioning model.] Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:23:14 -0700 From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com> Organization: IDNS and Spokesman for INEGroup To: "matthias.langenegger(a)icann.org" <matthias.langenegger(a)icann.org>,Nick Ashton-Hart <nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org>,Cheryl Langdon-Orr <cheryl(a)hovtek.com.au>,GAC Rep <ssene(a)ntia.doc.gov> CC: DOC/NTIA ICANN Rep <aheineman(a)ntia.doc.gov>,Dominik Filipp <dominik.filipp(a)dsoft.sk>,Wendy Seltzer <wendy(a)seltzer.com>,"ICANN Admin supp. Manager Karen Lettner" <karen.lettner(a)icann.org>,ICANN Dan Halloran <halloran(a)icann.org>,ICANN Kim Davies <kim.davies(a)icann.org>,icann legal <jeffrey(a)icann.org>,ICANN Marc Salvatierra <marc.salvatierra(a)icann.org> Matthias et., al., Ok, what is the reason? Do you just not like me? Ahhhhh, what a shame, eh? And additionally how childish. How does the ALAC ever expect to gain any respect for an significant number of users/stakeholders with this sort of childish behavior? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [At-Large] Updates to New gTLD Program Implementationandauctioning model. Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:04:54 -0400 From: at-large-owner(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org To: jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com Your message was rejected Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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[Fwd: [Fwd 5th no reason given to: Re: [At-Large] Moderation of Jeff Williams - ICANN - Jefsey]]
by Jeffrey A. Williams Aug. 9, 2008

Aug. 9, 2008

All, Another sad FYI... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Fwd 5th no reason given to: Re: [At-Large] Moderation of Jeff Williams - ICANN - Jefsey] Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:18:44 -0700 From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com> Organization: IDNS and Spokesman for INEGroup To: "matthias.langenegger(a)icann.org" <matthias.langenegger(a)icann.org>,Nick Ashton-Hart <nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org>,GAC Rep <ssene(a)ntia.doc.gov>, Wendy Seltzer <wendy(a)seltzer.com> CC: DOC/NTIA ICANN Rep <aheineman(a)ntia.doc.gov>,"ICANN Admin supp. Manager Karen Lettner" <karen.lettner(a)icann.org>,ICANN Dan Halloran <halloran(a)icann.org>,ICANN Kim Davies <kim.davies(a)icann.org>,icann legal <jeffrey(a)icann.org>,ICANN Marc Salvatierra <marc.salvatierra(a)icann.org>,ICANN Policy Staff <policy(a)icann.org>, Chris McElroy <chris(a)seo.pn> Matthias et., al., Ok, what is the reason? Do you just not like me? Ahhhhh, what a shame, eh? And additionally how childish. How does the ALAC ever expect to gain any respect for an significant number of users/stakeholders with this sort of childish behavior? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [At-Large] Moderation of Jeff Williams - ICANN - Jefsey Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:50:11 -0400 From: at-large-owner(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org To: jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com Your message was rejected Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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Re: [NA-Discuss] [At-Large] Updates to New gTLD Program Implementation andauctioning model.
by Jeffrey A. Williams Aug. 8, 2008

Aug. 8, 2008

Patrick and all, Yes this is a bad idea. It sets a bad precedent, that will be contentious for years to come. But as the lady of the evening once said, "Money walks, and BS just talks". What remains now in this context is, will the sluts prevail? Maybe .XXX will get another opportunity... Patrick Vande Walle wrote: > http://icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-08aug08-en.htm > > ICANN has published a paper from its contractor PowerAuctions LLC, > regarding the use of auctions to award new TLD strings in case of > contention. > > http://icann.org/en/topics/economic-case-auctions-08aug08-en.pdf > > I think it would be important that the At Large speaks up. The model > proposed in the document is a purely capitalistic one. It is based on > the assumption that all gTLDs are created to make as much money as > possible. Smaller, community based TLDs seem quite difficult to launch > in such context. > > The mere possibility of auctions will actually generate contention on > some strings. The little guys wishing to establish a not-for-profit TLD > will be outplayed by the wealthy ones. > > A public forum has been established at > http://forum.icann.org/lists/auction-consultation/. > Comments to auction-consultation(a)icann.org before 8 September 2008. > > -- > Patrick Vande Walle > > _______________________________________________ > At-Large mailing list > At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large_atlarge-lists.ican… > > At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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[Fwd: Re: [At-Large] Moderation of Jeff Williams - ICANN - Jefsey]
by Jeffrey A. Williams Aug. 8, 2008

Aug. 8, 2008

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [At-Large] Moderation of Jeff Williams - ICANN - Jefsey Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:44:08 -0700 From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com> Organization: IDNS and Spokesman for INEGroup To: at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: Bill Silverstein <icann-list(a)sorehands.com>,GAC Rep <ssene(a)ntia.doc.gov>,DOC/NTIA ICANN Rep <aheineman(a)ntia.doc.gov>,Dominik Filipp <dominik.filipp(a)dsoft.sk> References: <C4C0E5D7.9DA1%staff(a)atlarge.icann.org><3F3E15DA767FE34598D8776192CA23A6046D510D(a)CUEXVS2.consumer.org><200808090636.m796a7FO005423(a)ns1.irnic.ir><13e529281e5b1cdd6f27dccf03ea090c.squirrel(a)mail.sorehands.com> <200808091024.1krPmY1Za3Nl36H2(a)mx-laughing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> JFC and all, ROFLMAO! How incessantly paranoid! You seed far too much credit to me, and far too less to reality. Besides I am only a messenger. So why shoot the messenger. What is important is the message(s). And indeed there is little or no difference between what is relevant to the Internet, especially DNS, and what is relevant to ICANN. Such was certainly not my idea, but ICANN's circa 1999. JFC Morfin wrote: > At 08:49 09/08/2008, Bill Silverstein wrote: > >Many of his recent comments have been relevant to the internet > >community, but not to the issues of ICANN. > > Would you mean there would be a difference ? > > jfc > > PS. I had actually two reasons to question Beau : > > - to understand if he was genuine when asking what non-American > really think about ICANN the biaised way he did (most do not mind the > USG, they mind the "stakholder"'s dominance). As several others, for > 8 years, I try to understand who "Jeff Willians" really _are_, what > is exactly their role and the wheight they carry in the Internet > community, who pays and inform them, who support or use them. This is > why I am always interested in the activists who are serious about > Jeff Williams, resurecting them once they have been dealt with, and > being unnecessarily rude (a way increase the attention). > > - to help ALAC to get real. If their mechanic cannot cope with "Jeff > Williams" there is a bug or a civilization issue : who is to be the > reference - the mechanic or the person. This is very important : if > ALAC choses to protect instead of improve the mechanic while the WSIS > consensus (including the USA) said that the Information Society had > to be "people centered, à charactère humain, centrada en la persona", > then we definitly know on which side people are to be. > > Let get real. If ALAC wants to be/stay as a stable community helper, > it must able to survive scores of Jeff Williams, from 200 national > ALAC communities in 250 languages. This means considering a similar > approach to ISOC which consider an adequate relational tool. It must > also consider an adequate structural architecture. The whole ICANN > problem everyone can observe through the IIC issue is the one that > the French GAC VP asked Peter Dungate Trush : > - you say that ICANN's structure adequately survived the last 10 > years and has just to be consolidated. > - some do not think it was adequate. > - how do you know that a centralized American English ASCII oriented > structure would be adequate to a Multilingual distributed Internet. > > If ALAC wants to really help ICANN, it must first to become "Jeff > Williams Proof" in English, then in French, in Chinese, and in 250 > national languages (ISO 3166) and then in 30.000 geolingual > environments (ISO 639-6 - LS640). > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > At-Large mailing list > At-Large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/at-large_atlarge-lists.ican… > > At-Large Official Site: http://atlarge.icann.org Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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[Fwd: [ga] FYI Fwd: Kaminsky on djbdns bugs]
by Jeffrey A. Williams Aug. 8, 2008

Aug. 8, 2008

All, Of course Joe and Kaminsky are correct and have been for years. Yet ICANN and the ISC have been unable or unwilling to do the right thing. Well that's a shame, a very huge shame indeed. We, took matters into our own hands as did Bernstein, and desinged our own BIND product. To date, no security holes recognized. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ga] FYI Fwd: Kaminsky on djbdns bugs Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 10:44:32 -0400 From: "Joe Baptista" <baptista(a)publicroot.org> To: Ga <ga(a)gnso.icann.org> FYI ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joe Baptista<baptista(a)publicroot.org> Date: Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 10:42 AM Subject: Re: Kaminsky on djbdns bugs To: Erwin Hoffmann <feh(a)fehcom.de> Cc: dns(a)list.cr.yp.to Hi, On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Erwin Hoffmann <feh(a)fehcom.de> wrote: Hi, At 03:42 08.08.2008 +0000, D. J. Bernstein wrote: Kyle Wheeler writes: > That makes it easier for an attacker to guess the right number, but > only somewhat (your chances per-guess go from one in four billion to, > say, thirty in four billion). This criticism of djbdns seems > somewhat... well, specious. http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/forgery.html has, for several years, stated the results of exactly this attack: The dnscache program uses a cryptographic generator for the ID and query port to make them extremely difficult to predict. However, * an attacker who makes a few billion random guesses is likely to succeed at least once; * tens of millions of guesses are adequate with a colliding attack; etc. The same page also states bilateral and unilateral workarounds that would raise the number of guesses to "practically impossible"; but then focuses on the real problem, namely that "attackers with access to the network would still be able to forge DNS responses." Yes. I've posted years ago an URL to tinydns.org (originating from Security Focus) with a very careful analyis about the above topic Kaminsky claims now to be a new affair -- however, the link has been removed (I can post a copy of the article in PDF format on request). i'd be interested in seeing it. Most of what Kaminsky discusses is pretty old and well know - obviously except for the BIND guys (regarding DNS). The BIND guys know it. The BIND guys patch BIND every year. But it so half assed. How many versions of BIND have been published to address security issue. Answer - every single one. I've complained for years about this. Especially to the internet DNS pirates at ICANN. It goes no where. What pisses me off is that they have the resources to do a good job but don't. From their point of view it seems every BIND vulnerability is a marketing opportunity. It has been either an attempt to use the security issue to deny users access to port 53 or in this case an attempt to market a crappy protocol like DNSSEC - which is in my opinion an attempt by a technical community to give control of the root to the 13 root gods. Even worse; here in Germany on the Heise ticker, there es more confusion regarding MacOS an the missing dnslib patches from Apple (sailing on the waves of Kaminsky's 'discoveries'). The common misunderstandings about the roles of the stub-resolver, the dns-cache/full-resolver, and the dns-content-server seem to be persistent; in particular in spite of DNSSEC. regards. --eh. (The german reading folks may have a look in the 2nd edition of my book "Technik der IP-Netze" which explains DNS -- I shall translate that chapter into english and make in public available; any volonteers?) Dr. Erwin Hoffmann | FEHCom | http://www.fehcom.de/ Wiener Weg 8, 50858 Cologne | T: +49 221 484 4923 | F: ...24 -- Joe Baptista www.publicroot.org PublicRoot Consortium ---------------------------------------------------------------- The future of the Internet is Open, Transparent, Inclusive, Representative & Accountable to the Internet community @large. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Office: +1 (360) 526-6077 (extension 052) Fax: +1 (509) 479-0084 -- Joe Baptista www.publicroot.org PublicRoot Consortium ---------------------------------------------------------------- The future of the Internet is Open, Transparent, Inclusive, Representative & Accountable to the Internet community @large. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Office: +1 (360) 526-6077 (extension 052) Fax: +1 (509) 479-0084 Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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Borrador de enmiendas propuestas al Acuerdo sobre Acreditación de Registradores
by At-Large Staff Aug. 8, 2008

Aug. 8, 2008

Borrador de enmiendas propuestas al Acuerdo sobre Acreditación de Registradores http://www.icann.org/es/announcements/announcement-18jun08-es.htm 18 de junio de 2008 Haga clic aquí para ir al periodo de presentación de comentarios públicos (abierto hasta el 31 de agosto de 2008). Esta notificación reseña quince enmiendas del borrador al Acuerdo sobre Acreditación de Registradores (AAR) de modo que sean estudiadas y debatidas por la comunidad de ICANN (Corporación para la asignación de números y nombres de Internet). Las enmiendas se elaboraron a través de un proceso de consulta de la comunidad y posteriormente un debate entre registradores e ICANN acerca de dichos comentarios. Las enmiendas del borrador se presentan aquí para facilitar el debate posterior de la comunidad con el objetivo de aplicar una serie de cambios contractuales para mejorar las medidas de protección de los registrantes. El personal de ICANN estará a su disposición para facilitar debates con grupos de unidades constitutivas en asambleas de ICANN en París y en posteriores reuniones. Estas enmiendas se constituyen en cuatro categorías generales: * Instrumentos de ejecución: estas enmiendas están diseñadas para potenciar el cumplimiento del registrador y otorgar a ICANN unas mejores herramientas de aplicación. * Protecciones de registrantes: estas enmiendas se centran en áreas para realzar la protección de los registrantes mediante la mejora de información al consumidor, gracias a la cual las decisiones y elecciones relativas a la protección de datos estarán mejor fundamentadas. * Promoción de un mercado de registradores estable y competitivo: estas enmiendas tienen como objetivo asegurar que todos los participantes cumplan los estándares mínimos en el mercado de registradores. * Modernización del acuerdo: estas enmiendas están previstas para cerciorarse de que las disposiciones del contrato satisfacen las necesidades actuales. Historial de la consulta * En un esfuerzo por abordar los asuntos suscitados por la protección de los registrantes, ICANN ha entablado un gran número de negociaciones con miembros de la comunidad relativas a potenciales enmiendas al AAR. Se han recibido contribuciones a través de foros de comentarios del público, en particular de ALAC (Comité asesor de alcance) y de la Unidad constitutiva de propiedad intelectual (IPC). De acuerdo con la dirección fijada en estas negociaciones, ICANN ha mantenido debates tanto telefónicos como personales con registradores sobre la manera de ofrecer estas medidas de protección mediante la reforma del AAR. De entre las ocho áreas sustantivas de reforma exigidas por Paul Twomey en marzo de 2007 (consulte <http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-21mar07.htm>) y de estas consultas a la comunidad, se han propuesto 15 enmiendas al AAR. * Se realizaron talleres en las asambleas de ICANN donde se debatieron temas de custodia de datos, migración en caso de fallos del registro, cumplimiento y enmiendas al AAR. Paralelamente, la Junta Directiva resolvió que el personal directo solicitara contribuciones a la comunidad concernientes a las enmiendas al AAR; participara en un diálogo con registradores para llegar a una serie de enmiendas propuestas del AAR que se deben someter a los comentarios del público, y solicitara consejo de ALAC, GNSO (Organización de apoyo para nombres genéricos) y demás partes interesadas con el fin de informar de la revisión de las enmiendas realizada por la Junta Directiva (consulte < http://www.icann.org/minutes/resolutions-29jun07.htm#k>). * Se redactó un conjunto inicial de enmiendas, que se sometió a comentarios del público entre julio y septiembre de 2007, con un resumen publicado en octubre de 2007. Se incluyó una página en el sitio web de ICANN para "Consulta sobre enmiendas al Acuerdo sobre Acreditación de Registradores" en <http://www.icann.org/topics/raa/>. Durante este periodo inicial se entablaron asimismo negociaciones con registradores. * Una serie actualizada de enmiendas surgió a partir de las negociaciones con los registradores y la solicitud de consejo a la comunidad. La Unidad constitutiva de registradores (RC) creó un grupo de trabajo, dirigido por el presidente de esta, Jon Nevett, para entablar un diálogo continuo con ICANN sobre los asuntos del AAR objeto de debate. Se han redactado diversas reiteraciones a medida que el diálogo entre el grupo de trabajo e ICANN ha progresado. Han tenido lugar diversas conferencias tanto personales como telefónicas. * ALAC asimismo creó un grupo de trabajo para revisar el AAR y ha contribuido al diálogo. Las comunicaciones entre los registradores y ALAC han mejorado, en parte como resultado del continuo diálogo. * A la finalización de este periodo de contribuciones del público, se preparará un informe con los pormenores de los comentarios para que la Junta Directiva los tenga en consideración en su revisión. Enmiendas propuestas A continuación se muestra un resumen de las enmiendas que se han publicado para la presentación de comentarios públicos. (Si desea obtener información sobre la propuesta de idioma del contrato para poner en práctica cada una de estas, consulte http://www.icann.org/es/topics/raa/raa-provisions-comparision-18jun08-es.pdf (Comparación de disposiciones de AAR) [PDF, 49 K] y http://www.icann.org/es/topics/raa/redline-2001-raa-18jun08-es.pdf (Modificaciones propuestas del ARR pendientes de estudio) [PDF, 86 K].): 1. Instrumentos de ejecución 1. Auditorías de registradores: permiten a ICANN realizar visitas a sitios web y auditorías de registradores previa notificación de al menos 15 días de antelación. 2. Sanciones y suspensiones: disponen herramientas de aplicación del cumplimiento incrementado, tales como sanciones económicas y suspensión del acceso al registro. 3. Responsabilidad de grupo: previene "conductas impropias en serie" por parte de registradores cuando se rescinde el AAR de otro registrador afiliado (mediante control común). 4. Honorarios del registrador: revisión de la disposición de honorarios del registrador para que se adecue a los presupuestos recientes y actuales de ICANN; cálculo del interés sobre los pagos de honorarios en mora. 5. Registros por parte de registradores: creación de responsabilidad de los registradores para con ICANN por cuenta de cualquier registro efectuado por los primeros que se use en la provisión de servicios de registro. 6. Suspensión arbitral: eliminación de la suspensión automática de rescisión de 30 días que los registradores reciben en la actualidad mediante el inicio del procedimiento arbitral o el litigio para presentar una demanda contra la rescisión de un AAR. 2. Medidas de protección de registrantes 1. Registro privado y requisitos de custodia de datos de los registradores: se exige a los registradores que custodien los datos del cliente al efecto en el caso de registros privados o de proxy, o bien que presenten una notificación destacada en que se indique que dichos datos no serán custodiados. 2. Derechos y responsabilidades del registrante: se exige a los registradores que incluyan en sus sitios web un enlace a un documento de "derechos y responsabilidades del registrador", que se deberá crear previa consulta con la comunidad de ICANN. 3. Relaciones contractuales con los distribuidores: protección a los registrantes que son clientes de distribuidores obligando a los distribuidores a seguir las políticas de ICANN y exigiendo bien la custodia de los datos de privacidad o proxy de los clientes, o bien la publicación de una notificación destacada en que se indique que dichos datos no serán custodiados. 3. Fomento de un mercado estable y competitivo de registradores 1. Acreditación mediante compra: se exige a los registradores notificar a ICANN cualquier cambio de titularidad y volver a certificar el cumplimiento con el AAR. 2. Formación y pruebas de conocimientos de operadores: disponen formación obligatoria para representantes de registradores con el fin de asegurar la mejor comprensión por parte del registrador de las políticas de ICANN y de los requisitos del AAR. 3. Uso de registradores acreditados por el ICANN: mantenimiento de la política general de ICANN de exigir que los registros utilicen registradores acreditados del ICANN (salvo excepción razonable e indicada). 4. Modernización del acuerdo 1. Disposición de notificaciones: se agiliza la obligación de ICANN de notificar a los registradores las nuevas políticas de consenso que son de aplicación a los registradores. 2. Referencias al Departamento de Comercio de Estados Unidos: reconocimiento de la deriva de ICANN hacia posiciones independientes de dicho departamento mediante la eliminación de determinadas referencias dentro del AAR que aluden al requisito de aprobación por parte del Departamento de Comercio. 3. Requisitos de retención de datos del registrador: clarificación del requisito de retención de datos para los registradores con el fin de contar con prácticas más uniformes. Envíe comentarios sobre los cambios propuestos a raa-consultation(a)icann.org. Vea los comentarios en http://forum.icann.org/lists/raa-consultation. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Frederic Teboul ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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Reminder: Next NARALO Teleconference: Tuesday, 11th August 1900 UTC
by At-Large Staff Aug. 8, 2008

Aug. 8, 2008

Dear all, This is to remind you that the next NARALO teleconference is scheduled on Tuesday, 11 August at 1900 UTC. Please find further details for this meeting on the meeting page. An agenda will be uploaded shortly. https://st.icann.org/naralo/index.cgi?11_august_2008 -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Frederic Teboul ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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[Fwd: Beware: nicir.ir DNS is grossly misconfigured]
by Jeffrey A. Williams Aug. 8, 2008

Aug. 8, 2008

FYI -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Beware: nicir.ir DNS is grossly misconfigured Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:20:31 -0700 From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com> Organization: IDNS and Spokesman for INEGroup To: Siavash Shahshahani <shahshah(a)irnic.ir>,ICANN SSAC Dave Piscitello <dave.piscitello(a)icann.org>,ICANN SSAC <ssac(a)icann.org>, Steve Crocker <steve(a)shinkuro.com>,"matthias.langenegger(a)icann.org" <matthias.langenegger(a)icann.org>,"ICANN Admin supp. Manager Karen Lettner" <karen.lettner(a)icann.org>,Ga <ga(a)gnso.icann.org>,DOC/NTIA ICANN Rep <aheineman(a)ntia.doc.gov>,Nick Ashton-Hart <Nick.Ashton-Hart(a)icann.org> CC: Bill Silverstein <icann-list(a)sorehands.com>,"Brendler, Beau" <Brenbe(a)consumer.org>,Carl Wallace <CWallace(a)cygnacom.com>,Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels(a)uwimona.edu.jm>,Cheryl Langdon-Orr <cheryl(a)hovtek.com.au>,Chuck Gomes <cgomes(a)verisign.com>,"Darlene Thompson," <DThompson(a)GOV.NU.CA>,ICANN Kim Davies <kim.davies(a)icann.org>,icann legal <jeffrey(a)icann.org>,ICANN Marc Salvatierra <marc.salvatierra(a)icann.org>,ICANN Policy Staff <policy(a)icann.org>,JFC Morfin <jefsey(a)jefsey.com>,John Levine <icggov(a)johnlevine.com>, GAC Rep <ssene(a)ntia.doc.gov>,Kieren McCarthy <kieren.mccarthy(a)icann.org>,Roberto Gaetano <roberto(a)icann.org> All, Beware: Nicir.ir is grossly misconfigured and will expose you to serious danger if traffic received from any transmission from any IT protocol or application is sent to you. See: http://member.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnslite.php?domain=nicir.ir http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=nicir.ir&token=104056… Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1(a)ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827

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