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Terms of Reference
by Alan Greenberg Dec. 8, 2017

Dec. 8, 2017

The latest version on the Wiki is v10, but that does not seem to incorporate the last set of agreed upon changes. Also, I note two additional errors: 1. Under Mission & Scope in the paragraph on the limited scope proposal, the phrase "by the ICANN organization" should be deleted. ICANN Organization now means just staff, and in fact, I was the prime author (working with Margie). 2. The version of the proposal pointed to in the ToR and in the RDS Review Guidance document is incorrect. The final version is v4-4-11.16 and is attached to this e-mail (it corrects a critical typo). Alan

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Information
by Erika Mann Dec. 8, 2017

Dec. 8, 2017

I'm sending this to you because it's an interesting dispute that touches on some of the issues we're concerned about. It shows as well the complexity of the issue (storing, controlling, processing and accessing data in a foreign jurisdiction). Don't forward it to others, it comes from a payed service. Update from today: "EUROPEAN COMMISSION WADES INTO US DATA CASE: When do governments have the right to gain access to people’s digital data when that information is held overseas? The Commission said Thursday it would file an amicus brief to the U.S. Supreme Court in connection to a case involving American authorities’ efforts to obtain digital information held in a Microsoft data server in Ireland. The Commission stressed that it would not be taking sides with its filing. Instead, EU policymakers want to outline what is — and isn’t — allowed under the region’s tough privacy rules. “The Commission considered it to be in the interest of the EU to make sure that EU data protection rules on international transfers are correctly understood and taken into account by the U.S. Supreme Court,” the Commission said. Brussels may be hedging its bets by staying neutral, but the rest of the tech world is playing close attention to this data warrant case. Microsoft previously challenged (and won) the search warrant brought by U.S. officials, claiming that handing over the data held in Ireland was not legal and set a dangerous precedent. Other tech companies and privacy advocates have backed Microsoft’s position, though some officials (even in Europe) say access to such borderless data is needed to fight security threats. Whatever the outcome of the U.S. Supreme Court’s eventual decision, it’s likely to set a precedent — either for limits to what authorities can demand companies hand over, or for a push by domestic agencies to ask for information held overseas. When that happens, the Commission will no longer be able to stay neutral." Cheers, Erika Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [RDS-WHOIS2-RT] Public WHOIS After May 2018
by Alan Greenberg Dec. 7, 2017

Dec. 7, 2017

Sorry to get into this so late. I think we are talking at cross purposes here. TUCOWS is saying what they may do immediately, prior to asking for permission (if they ever do) and prior to having any mechanism for providing gated access to those with a legitimate need to for access without permission. Alan At 06/12/2017 05:10 AM, Erika Mann wrote: >Not even fully accurate. One can continue to publish core data based >on legitimate interest grounds and with an explicit consent >declaration. I think people are not really understanding the GDPR well. > >Erika > >On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 6:59 PM, Carlton Samuels ><<mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com>carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com> wrote: >..this fella says he's only reporting what TUCOWS say a public whois >record would resemble come GDPR implementation next year. > ><https://domainnamewire.com/2017/12/05/wow-public-whois-look-like-2018/>https://domainnamewire.com/2017/12/05/wow-public-whois-look-like-2018/ > > >-Carlton > >============================== >Carlton A Samuels >Mobile: <tel:(876)%20818-1799>876-818-1799 >Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround >============================= > >_______________________________________________ >RDS-WHOIS2-RT mailing list ><mailto:RDS-WHOIS2-RT@icann.org>RDS-WHOIS2-RT(a)icann.org >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rds-whois2-rt > > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Disposition: inline >X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: > >1;YQXPR0101MB1589;27:6DV2Zg8ZWBt8SIjS4M7wzRVAp6UHkMeg/9WKpy3ql7KxdtzOfFKca6oa9snP/lD6Ci5IOyPmaqSZWHqFwACHxhbkHYgkKGOBrxGfuz1nioD9XECeng6s/qB7zGzlq2jh >X-Microsoft-Antispam-Message-Info: > >5d+2omK7L9jbTIHD+SrIxJ8WtgQHMJJxaey9qH4P2yL0K61kovCF8CtYi5Hc/G2LBiznIQCGTx0CPwXKdIn8vdQxVKdX65woqBr1Z0uhFljBeAJ1yXGJHz8OQvVO6EkYIw+4wZZF+bJcZ/meEbr+IA== > >_______________________________________________ >RDS-WHOIS2-RT mailing list >RDS-WHOIS2-RT(a)icann.org >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rds-whois2-rt

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Public WHOIS After May 2018
by Carlton Samuels Dec. 7, 2017

Dec. 7, 2017

..this fella says he's only reporting what TUCOWS say a public whois record would resemble come GDPR implementation next year. https://domainnamewire.com/2017/12/05/wow-public-whois-look-like-2018/ -Carlton ============================== *Carlton A Samuels* *Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* =============================

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Board resolution re ToR
by Chris Disspain Nov. 29, 2017

Nov. 29, 2017

Hello All, In its resolution <https://features.icann.org/appointment-board-designees-new-specific-reviews…> on 3 February 2017, the Board requested that the RDS Review Team develop and deliver to the Board its approved Terms of Reference and Work Plan by the 15th of May 2017, to ensure that the team's scope and timeline are consistent with the requirements of the ICANN Bylaws. The Board is aware that the review team was not officially formed until 2 June 2017, and as a result, additional time is needed for the review team to deliver the Terms of Reference and work plan. The Board understands that the review team discussed a new proposed timeline with me during our face-to-face meeting in Brussels on 2-3 October 2017, and the Review Team is making steady progress toward its target to submit the documents by the end of November. or early December. The Board looks forward to providing input as appropriate once approved Terms of Reference and Work Plan have been finalized and submitted. Cheers, Chris

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RDS-WHOIS2-RT: Action Needed: Doodle - Scheduling of Plenary Calls
by Jean-Baptiste Deroulez Nov. 28, 2017

Nov. 28, 2017

Dear RDS-WHOIS2 Review Team Members, At the request of the RDS-WHOIS2-RT leadership, we would like to kindly invite you to fill in the following doodle (https://doodle.com/poll/xcykk6nikur53kgd) which will help identifying the best option for your upcoming review team plenary calls. Thank you for filling the doodle before Tuesday 28 November 2017, COB. Kind regards, Jean-Baptiste

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RDS-WHOIS2-RT: Subgroups recap
by Jean-Baptiste Deroulez Nov. 27, 2017

Nov. 27, 2017

Dear Review Team Members, Please see below the list of subgroups and its identified leader/rapporteur (highlighted in bold) who will be responsible for making sure work progresses, deadlines are met and providing regular status updates. Topic 1 – WHOIS RT1 Recommendations * Rec #1: Strategic Priority: https://community.icann.org/x/3plEB * Members: Carlton, Cathrin, Volker * Email address: rds-whois2-stratpriority(a)icann.org<mailto:rds-whois2-stratpriority@icann.org> * Email archive: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rds-whois2-stratpriority/ * Rec #2: Single WHOIS Policy: https://community.icann.org/x/4ZlEB * Members: Carlton, Cathrin, Thomas * Email address: rds-whois2-whoispolicy(a)icann.org<mailto:rds-whois2-whoispolicy@icann.org> * Email archive: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rds-whois2-whoispolicy/ * Rec #3: Outreach: https://community.icann.org/x/5JlEB * Members: Alan, Carlton, Erika * Email address: rds-whois2-outreach(a)icann.org<mailto:rds-whois2-outreach@icann.org> * Email archive: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rds-whois2-outreach/ * Rec #4: Compliance: https://community.icann.org/x/55lEB * Members: Erika, Susan, Thomas * Email address: rds-whois2-rec4-compliance(a)icann.org<mailto:rds-whois2-rec4-compliance@icann.org> * Email archive: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rds-whois2-rec4-compliance/ * Rec #5-9: Data Accuracy: https://community.icann.org/x/6plEB o Members: Cathrin, Dmitry, Lili * Email address: rds-whois2-dataaccuracy(a)icann.org<mailto:rds-whois2-dataaccuracy@icann.org> o Email archive: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rds-whois2-dataaccuracy/ * Rec #10: Privacy/Proxy Services: https://community.icann.org/x/7ZlEB * Members: Cathrin, Stephanie, Volker. (Leader/Rapporteur to be confirmed: Stephanie or Volker to volunteer) * Email address: rds-whois2-privacy-proxy(a)icann.org<mailto:rds-whois2-privacy-proxy@icann.org> * Email archive: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rds-whois2-privacy-proxy/ * Rec #11: Common Interface: https://community.icann.org/x/8JlEB * Members: Alan, Susan, Volker * Email address: rds-whois2-comminterface(a)icann.org<mailto:rds-whois2-comminterface@icann.org> * Email archive: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rds-whois2-comminterface/ * Rec #12-14: IDNs: https://community.icann.org/x/85lEB * Members: Alan, Dmitry, Lili * Email address: rds-whois2-idns(a)icann.org<mailto:rds-whois2-idns@icann.org> * Email archive: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rds-whois2-idns/ * Rec #15-16: Plan & Annual Reports: https://community.icann.org/x/9plEB * Members: Alan, Chris, Lili * Email address: rds-whois2-reports(a)icann.org<mailto:rds-whois2-reports@icann.org> * Email archive: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rds-whois2-reports/ Topic 2 – Anything New: https://community.icann.org/x/_5lEB * Members: Alan, Stephanie, Susan * Email address: rds-whois2-anythingnew(a)icann.org<mailto:rds-whois2-anythingnew@icann.org> * Email archive: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rds-whois2-anythingnew/ Topic 3 – Law Enforcement Needs: https://community.icann.org/x/-plEB * Members: Cathrin, Chris, Thomas * Email address: rds-whois2-lawenforcement(a)icann.org<mailto:rds-whois2-lawenforcement@icann.org> * Email archive: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rds-whois2-lawenforcement/ Topic 4 – Consumer Trust: https://community.icann.org/x/AZpEB * Members: Dmitry, Erika, Stephanie, Susan * Email address: rds-whois2-consumertrust(a)icann.org<mailto:rds-whois2-consumertrust@icann.org> * Email archive: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rds-whois2-consumertrust/ Topic 5 – Safeguard Registrant Data: https://community.icann.org/x/BJpEB * Members: Alan, Dmitry, Stephanie, Volker * Email address: rds-whois2-safeguard(a)icann.org<mailto:rds-whois2-safeguard@icann.org> * Email archive: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rds-whois2-safeguard/ Topic 7 – Compliance: https://community.icann.org/x/B5pEB * Members: Carlton, Chris, Erika, Susan * Email address: rds-whois2-compliance(a)icann.org<mailto:rds-whois2-compliance@icann.org> * Email archive: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rds-whois2-compliance/ Please note that each subgroups page was populated with background materials for your use and review. As a reminder, the first milestone will be for subgroups to complete and return their planning document (see here<https://community.icann.org/display/WHO/Subgroups?preview=/71604697/7458251…>) by December 12, 2017, as previously agreed on Plenary Meeting #12<https://community.icann.org/display/WHO/Meeting+%2312+-+20+November+2017>. Your ICANN support team (rds-whois2-staff(a)icann.org<mailto:rds-whois2-staff@icann.org>) is ready to assist you for conference call scheduling and logistics. Kind regards Jean-Baptiste

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Meeting Monday 27 November??
by Alan Greenberg Nov. 27, 2017

Nov. 27, 2017

At this point, we have apologies from 7 of the 11 members leaving only Cathrin, Susan, Dmitry and Erika. As I will not be there, I will leave it to Cathrin and Susan, but I suspect the meeting should be cancelled. If that happens though, PLEASE review all documents and let's start using the mailing list more productively. Alan

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RDS-WHOIS2 Review Team Plenary Call #2 13 July 2017 - 13:00 UTC
by Jean-Baptiste Deroulez Nov. 26, 2017

Nov. 26, 2017

Dear Review Team Members, In preparation for your call #02<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_…>, scheduled for Thursday, 13 July – 13:00-14:00 UTC (timezone converter here<https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=RDS%2FWHOIS2+Revi…>), please find below a suggested agenda: 1. Welcome and opening remarks (Karen Mulberry) 2. ICANN59 Recap (Jean-Baptiste Deroulez) 3. Review Team leadership structure, responsibilities (RDS-WHOIS2-RT members) 4. Plenary call schedule and topics (Karen Mulberry) 5. Consider process and how the Review Team wishes to include Observers (Karen Mulberry) 6. First face-to-face meeting: Dates & Topics (Karen Mulberry) 7. ICANN60 meeting (Karen Mulberry) 8. Board Resolution (RDS-WHOIS2-RT members) (Lisa Phifer) 9. A.O.B Attached to this email you will find slides we invite you to read. You should all have received dial-in details to join this call. If not, please contact us off list at rds-whois2-staff(a)icann.org<mailto:rds-whois2-staff@icann.org> and we will make sure to send you a copy. Please feel free to join 20 minutes early to confirm your Adobe Connect and audio connections, if you wish. We would also like to remind you with some key links for your information: * This mailing-list is being publicly archived at: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rds-whois2-rt/ * https://community.icann.org/display/WHO/RDS-WHOIS2+Review[community.icann.o…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_di…> is the URL to your work space, which we have started populating with information. It will be the main repository for your documents and activities. We would like to call your attention to the Background Materials page where we have started compiling documents we would encourage you to read: https://community.icann.org/display/WHO/Background+Materials[community.ican…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_di…> As always, feel free to contact us should you have any questions or concerns. Kind regards, Jean-Baptiste Deroulez

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JFYI - Almost half of ccTLDs are planning to hide parts of Whois results
by Dmitry Belyavsky Nov. 23, 2017

Nov. 23, 2017

http://domainincite.com/22312-almost-half-of-cctlds-may-block-some-whois-da… *Almost half of ccTLDs are planning to hide parts of Whois results from public view in response to incoming European Union law.* That’s according to a recent informal survey of the members of CENTR, the Council of European National Top Level Domain Registries, detailed in a letter to ICANN ( https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/roste-to-sahel-16nov17…) last week. -- SY, Dmitry Belyavsky

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