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Next Meeting
by Lars Hoffmann March 31, 2016

March 31, 2016

Dear all, Due to scheduling issues, we are going to move our next meeting from 4 April to Monday 11 April, 21:00 UTC. A separate invitation will go out. Attached you find again the latest version of the paper presented in Marrakech – feel free to comment on or off list or present your comments during the call. Best wishes, Lars

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Next Steps
by Lars Hoffmann March 28, 2016

March 28, 2016

Dear all, Following our F2F meeting in Marrakech, please find attached the StrawWoman proposal on 3 character code top-level domains. Please note that 1) this does not represent a consensus view but should be considered a starting point for our discussions and that 2) following our discussion in Morocco, Policy Support Staff has reached out to other ICANN departments to assess to which degree the conditions listed on p.6-7 can be enforced and we will report back as soon as we receive a response. Any and all thoughts on the proposal are welcome and you are strongly encouraged to submit them in writing to this email list. The next phone call for all members is scheduled for Monday, 4 April, 2016 at 21:00 UTC. A operate invitation will be sent out for that call. Please get back to me (on or off list) if you have any questions or require clarifications. Best wishes, Lars

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Re: [Ctn-crosscom] IMPORTANT: Today's meeting
by Mzia Gogilashvili March 17, 2016

March 17, 2016

Thanks a lot. Sent from Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- From: "Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G." <crg(a)isoc-cr.org> Date: 07/03/2016 10:38 (GMT+00:00) To: Mzia Gogilashvili <mgogilashvili(a)gncc.ge> Cc: Lars Hoffmann <lars.hoffmann(a)icann.org>,ctn-crosscom(a)icann.org Subject: Re: [Ctn-crosscom] IMPORTANT: Today's meeting Dear Mzia, we will make sure you get a copy of the draft paper on 3 letter codes we distributed today. Best regards Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez +506 8837 7176 Skype: carlos.raulg Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica) On 7 Mar 2016, at 10:27, Mzia Gogilashvili wrote: > Dear Lars, > > Since I am only representative of Georgia at the Ministerial, I cannot > leave it and unfortunately I cannot participate in the meeting > today. > Hope on out further cooperation. > > Kind regards, > Mzia > > > Sent from Samsung Mobile > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Lars Hoffmann <lars.hoffmann(a)icann.org> > Date: 07/03/2016 10:02 (GMT+00:00) > To: ctn-crosscom(a)icann.org > Subject: [Ctn-crosscom] IMPORTANT: Today's meeting > > Dear all, > > Please note that today’s meeting takes place in the Diamant Room at > 10.30am > > Note, this is not in the main conference centre, but in the room > across from the Registration area (opposite direction than the > Conference Centre). > > Venue Map: https://meetings.icann.org/en/icann55rakmeetingguide.pdf > > The main agenda item is the discussion of the Straw Man Paper on > 3-character codes as TLDs that will be presented by Staff. > > See you in 30min. > Lars > > > _______________________________________________ > Ctn-crosscom mailing list > Ctn-crosscom(a)icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ctn-crosscom

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Re: [Ctn-crosscom] IMPORTANT: Today's meeting
by Mzia Gogilashvili March 7, 2016

March 7, 2016

Dear Lars, Since I am only representative of Georgia at the Ministerial, I cannot leave it and unfortunately I cannot participate in the meeting today. Hope on out further cooperation. Kind regards, Mzia Sent from Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- From: Lars Hoffmann <lars.hoffmann(a)icann.org> Date: 07/03/2016 10:02 (GMT+00:00) To: ctn-crosscom(a)icann.org Subject: [Ctn-crosscom] IMPORTANT: Today's meeting Dear all, Please note that today’s meeting takes place in the Diamant Room at 10.30am Note, this is not in the main conference centre, but in the room across from the Registration area (opposite direction than the Conference Centre). Venue Map: https://meetings.icann.org/en/icann55rakmeetingguide.pdf The main agenda item is the discussion of the Straw Man Paper on 3-character codes as TLDs that will be presented by Staff. See you in 30min. Lars

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Re: [Ctn-crosscom] IMPORTANT: Today's meeting
by Lars Hoffmann March 7, 2016

March 7, 2016

Please note, there will be hard copies of the Straw Man Paper available at the meeting. From: <ctn-crosscom-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Lars HOFFMANN <lars.hoffmann(a)icann.org> Date: Monday, 7 March 2016 at 10:02 To: "ctn-crosscom(a)icann.org" <ctn-crosscom(a)icann.org> Subject: [Ctn-crosscom] IMPORTANT: Today's meeting Dear all, Please note that today¹s meeting takes place in the Diamant Room at 10.30am Note, this is not in the main conference centre, but in the room across from the Registration area (opposite direction than the Conference Centre). Venue Map: https://meetings.icann.org/en/icann55rakmeetingguide.pdf The main agenda item is the discussion of the Straw Man Paper on 3-character codes as TLDs that will be presented by Staff. See you in 30min. Lars

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IMPORTANT: Today's meeting
by Lars Hoffmann March 7, 2016

March 7, 2016

Dear all, Please note that today¹s meeting takes place in the Diamant Room at 10.30am Note, this is not in the main conference centre, but in the room across from the Registration area (opposite direction than the Conference Centre). Venue Map: https://meetings.icann.org/en/icann55rakmeetingguide.pdf The main agenda item is the discussion of the Straw Man Paper on 3-character codes as TLDs that will be presented by Staff. See you in 30min. Lars

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Informal notes CTN conference call Monday 15 February, 21.00 UTC
by Bart Boswinkel Feb. 16, 2016

Feb. 16, 2016

Dear all, Please find included the informal notes from yesterday's call ( 15 February 21.00 UTC) Kind regards, Bart CWG - Use of Country and Territory Names as top-level domains Monday 15 February 2016 at 2100 UTC Proposed Agenda 1. Welcome 2. Staff overview of next steps 3. F2F Marrakech 4. AOB Apologies: Sanna Sahlman Notes & Action Items 15 February 2016 Proposed Agenda 1. Welcome Lars: Prep call last Friday. At request of co-chairs, staff will run the call as it will be mainly administrative. Roll-call: Paul Szyndler on audio only, all other participants in AC. 2. Staff overview of next steps How to move forward with 3 -letter codes? Discussed by co-chairs and staff. Build on email send by Heather (co-chair) 19 January 2016 Staff will prepare a Strawman paper, in similarly as to what was done for the two-letter codes. The staff document is intended to focus discussion, taking into account the responses received on the 3-letter code survey, in particular those responses that included a rationale for the view. Staff intends to deliver the first draft just before the meeting Marrakesh meeting. Heather: the comments made around the feed-back received, emphasises that the focus should be on those comments with a stated rationale. Further the straw man should build on the addtional comments and on the 3 questions send out before. Annebeth: Notes the divergency in views. Therefore important that divergency is shown , and hence it might be difficult to show/ achieve consensus position. 3. F2F Marrakech Monday 7 March: 10.30 - 12.00 local time (= UTC) Meeting with GAC working group, on Sunday is CANCELlED due to GAC internal discussions on CCWG Accountability Final Proposal. It is now scheduled for ICANN 56. Once the strawman avaiable and on the right path, it is suggested to reach out to the GAC, to ensure they are adequately informed. No More meeting between now and the f-2-f meeting. 4. AOB No addtional comments

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Attendance MP3 CTN meeting - Monday 15 February 2016
by Nathalie Peregrine Feb. 15, 2016

Feb. 15, 2016

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Cross-Community Working Group on Use of Country/Territory Names as TLDs meeting held on Monday, 15th of February 2016 at 21:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ctn-15feb16-en.mp3<http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=NrFWbrBstcrPWP369qgbqlXiSKeL20xnUXz…> On page: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jan>http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#f<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#feb>eb<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#feb> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: ccNSO: Annebeth Lange, .no Grigori Saghyan, .am Mirjana Tasic, .rs Ron Sherwood, .vi Paul Szyndler, .au (co-Chair) GNSO Heather Forrest, IPC (co-Chair) Carlos Raul Guttierez, NPOC (co-Chair) Susan Payne, NTAG Maxim Alzoba, NTAG At-Large: Cheryl Langdon-Orr Other: Jaap Akkerhuis Panagiotis Papaspiliopoulos Sebastien Pensis Apologies: Sanna Sahlman, .fi ICANN staff: Bart Boswinkel Lars Hoffman Joke Braeken Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives:http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ctn-crosscom/ Wiki page:https://community.icann.org/x/X7XhAg Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie **************** Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 15 February 2016: Nathalie Peregrine:Welcome to the CWG-UCTN on Monday 15 February 2016 Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Hello Nathalie, Grigori Nathalie Peregrine:Welcome Maxim! Sebastien Pensis:Good evening everyone, thank you for adding me to the group Lars Hoffmann:hello overone Carlos Raúl (GNSO co Chair):Hello Carlos Raúl (GNSO co Chair):Thank you Lars for the bridge Carlos Raúl (GNSO co Chair):it is up a going Grigori Saghyan:Hello everybody Ron Sherwood:Hello Everyone Carlos Raúl (GNSO co Chair):Welcome heather Annebeth Lange:Hi everyone, Greetings from Montenegro. I am at a CENTR meeting, with very bad connection Heather Forrest (GNSO co-chair):Hi everyone, good morning from Tasmania Carlos Raúl (GNSO co Chair):Do you go on purpose to palces with bad connection Annabeth????? Carlos Raúl (GNSO co Chair)::) Annebeth Lange::-) Carlos Heather Forrest (GNSO co-chair):Sorry, Lars, we should have given you today off! Carlos Raúl (GNSO co Chair):woops Mi:Hello everybody Mi:Mi is Mirjana Tasic Nathalie Peregrine:Paul Szyndler is on the audio bridge Nathalie Peregrine:Annebeth, you need to activate your mic Nathalie Peregrine:please click on the telephone icon at the top of the AC room Annebeth Lange:Sorry, I use phone, and it is difficult to do this, Nathalie Peregrine:Yes, you are not on the audio bridge Nathalie Peregrine:can we dial out to you? Annebeth Lange:Please Call me. 004795911559 Nathalie Peregrine:right away Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):time is almost traditional Nathalie Peregrine:no we're dialing out to her Carlos Raúl (GNSO co Chair):clear and loud Carlos Raúl (GNSO co Chair):no official meeting Heather Forrest (GNSO co-chair):Thank you, Lars! Nathalie Peregrine:Panagiotis Papaspiliopulos has joined the call Heather Forrest (GNSO co-chair):Lars - what is our meeting timetable between now and Marrakech? Heather Forrest (GNSO co-chair):OK understood, thanks Lars Susan Payne:thank you, sounds good Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):safe travels jaap akkerhuis:Thanks, bye Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):bye all Ron Sherwood:THank you all Bye Grigori Saghyan:Thank you! Joke Braeken:thank you. bye everybody. Sebastien Pensis:Thank you, safe travels to Marrakesh Cheryl Langdon-Orr:b ye for now Panagiotis Papaspiliopoulos (GR):sorry for being late - I had to study maths with the children... I will write you an email after receiving the minutes - bye Panagiotis Papaspiliopoulos (GR):safe travels - unfortunately, I won't be in Marrakech Panagiotis Papaspiliopoulos (GR):have a good night - bye :)

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Informal notes CTN call 11 January 2016
by Bart Boswinkel Feb. 15, 2016

Feb. 15, 2016

Dear all, Please find included the informal notes from yesterdays call. The chat and recoding will be published separately. Please also note the Action item for all. Kind regards, Bart Action all: 1. Check summary of responses document to check if responses are captured proporely? 2. Is the diversity of responses a concern for you (and why)? 3. Please provide a suggestion how to move forward, specifically in light of the diversity Request to share on email list (the sooner the better) Staff will not summarise the responses to the 3 questions above. Next meeting: 25 January 2016, 21.00 UTC Informal Notes -------------------------------------------------- CWG – Use of Country and Territory Names as top-level domains Monday 11 January 2016 at 2100 UTC 1. Welcome 2. Tour de Table on community feedback (esp. Staff overview/analysis paper) 3. Next steps, incl work plan until Marrakech 4. AOB 1. Welcome No Apologies received First meeting in 2016 Summary of community feed-back on Survey on 3-letter codes as TLDs. Survey is NOT a public comment process, but gathering information. By Dublin, few responses, following the Dublin meeting several additional responses. To date still awaiting 3 responses It was important as prep for this meeting. All to look at summary of comments. Important to note that all responses are captured in original wording, they have NOT been changed. 2. Tour de Table on community feedback (esp. Staff overview/analysis paper) Lars to provide overview Document based on feed-back received. Other, second document includes full submissions. Caveat, not all responses received yet >From page 3 onwards summary overview of responses. Staff observation: GNSO realtively cohesive, compared to ccTLD responses ( see overview). Some of the arguments are more a justification of desired outcome. Group is advised to work other way around. Start from existing policy and then move into what is needed Emphasise: no changes made to input recevied. When you go through to comments, NOTE this is NOT a public comment. It is a starting point for discussion. Feed-back not be treated as comment in Public comment process Tour de table Heather Forrest: What is helpful from piechart overviews: wide range of input. No unanimaty from community. Secondly note some of responses are constituency based, for example the IPC. They reflect view of larger group. Example: from GNSO input per constituency, consituency could reflect more then one entity Ohter comments? Move forward as with two-letter ? Check general principles? Annebeth Lange Members asked to share their views. Members should share their thoughts. (From chat) Co-chairs, really need you as WG members to come with your views. We are here as facilitators, but it is difficult without comments from you. Lars and his team have done an excellent job to summarize and tried to make an analysis, but we really need your views on that. Carlos: Co-chairs are interested in putting for a strawman bfeore Marrakesh meeting. Laura Hutchinson (from chat): I support the idea of using the document created by staff as a starting point. The strawman document worked very well for the first part of our work so think it would make sense to follow that method again this time. General discussion: What policy rationale can drive the outcome. Need to defend the recommendation No uniform position. Be careful what policy can drive Suggestion for change: First goal is whether it is possible to define a framework? Is it possible to find a common ground Defintion in CTN documents should reflect purpose in charter: not to develop policy. The terms are "Feasibility" and "definitional framework" Paul Szyndler: Staff needs guidance to start work. It is in remit of CTN to talk about agreed principles. An acceptable outcome could also be that there is no acceptable set of principles. Action all: 1. Check if responses are captured proporely? 2. Concern is there is diversity? 3. Suggestion how to move forward, specifically in light of the diversity Request to share on email list (the sooner the better) Staff will not summarise the responses ot 3 questions. 3. Next steps, incl work plan until Marrakech Based on responses to 3 questions, chart work to Marrakesh Include general observations in document what "status quo” means for use of 3 letter-codes as TLDs. Working definition of status quo: Confirm policies and their implementation (add examples of 3 -letter codes, including overview/number of 3-letter codes resulting from new gTLD process and Fast Track process). 4. AOB Staff support: Understanding that GAC would like to have meeting with leadership of the group ( tentatively and preferably on Sunday afternoon, 6 March 2016). Suggestion: not to make it a leadership meeting from CTN side. Staff understanding: Whole of the GAC, needs to be confirmed. No further comments. Closure at 21.55 Next meeting 25 January 2016, 21.00 UTC

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Reminder: Review Action Items and Feedback For Next Monday's Call
by Lars Hoffmann Feb. 10, 2016

Feb. 10, 2016

Dear all, Just to note that we have received very limited feedback on the documents which we will take as support for them (unless we hear otherwise before our next meeting). If you have any suggestion on how to proceed from here on out, please also share that with the Group. We will make a proposal on next steps during Monday¹s call but your early feedback would be much appreciated. Many thanks and best wishes, Lars From: <ctn-crosscom-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Lars HOFFMANN <lars.hoffmann(a)icann.org> Date: Thursday, 21 January 2016 at 08:50 To: "ctn-crosscom(a)icann.org" <ctn-crosscom(a)icann.org> Subject: [Ctn-crosscom] Review Action Items and Monday's call cancellation Dear all, Please make sure to review the documents and share any concerns, as per the Action Items below: 1. Check summary of responses document to check if responses are captured properly 2. Is the diversity of responses a concern for you (and why)? 3. Please provide a suggestion how to move forward, specifically in light of the diversity Note, that only three responses have been submitted so far. Following a discussion among the co-Chairs we will postpone our next meeting to Monday 8 February 2016 21:00 UTC. Many thanks and best wishes, Lars From: <ctn-crosscom-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel(a)icann.org> Date: Tuesday, 12 January 2016 at 02:17 To: "ctn-crosscom(a)icann.org" <ctn-crosscom(a)icann.org> Subject: [Ctn-crosscom] Informal notes CTN call 11 January 2016 Dear all, Please find included the informal notes from yesterdays call. The chat and recoding will be published separately. Please also note the Action item for all. Kind regards, Bart Action all: 1. Check summary of responses document to check if responses are captured proporely? 2. Is the diversity of responses a concern for you (and why)? 3. Please provide a suggestion how to move forward, specifically in light of the diversity Request to share on email list (the sooner the better) Staff will not summarise the responses to the 3 questions above. Next meeting: 25 January 2016, 21.00 UTC Informal Notes -------------------------------------------------- CWG Use of Country and Territory Names as top-level domains Monday 11 January 2016 at 2100 UTC 1. Welcome 2. Tour de Table on community feedback (esp. Staff overview/analysis paper) 3. Next steps, incl work plan until Marrakech 4. AOB 1. Welcome No Apologies received First meeting in 2016 Summary of community feed-back on Survey on 3-letter codes as TLDs. Survey is NOT a public comment process, but gathering information. By Dublin, few responses, following the Dublin meeting several additional responses. To date still awaiting 3 responses It was important as prep for this meeting. All to look at summary of comments. Important to note that all responses are captured in original wording, they have NOT been changed. 2. Tour de Table on community feedback (esp. Staff overview/analysis paper) Lars to provide overview Document based on feed-back received. Other, second document includes full submissions. Caveat, not all responses received yet >From page 3 onwards summary overview of responses. Staff observation: GNSO realtively cohesive, compared to ccTLD responses ( see overview). Some of the arguments are more a justification of desired outcome. Group is advised to work other way around. Start from existing policy and then move into what is needed Emphasise: no changes made to input recevied. When you go through to comments, NOTE this is NOT a public comment. It is a starting point for discussion. Feed-back not be treated as comment in Public comment process Tour de table Heather Forrest: What is helpful from piechart overviews: wide range of input. No unanimaty from community. Secondly note some of responses are constituency based, for example the IPC. They reflect view of larger group. Example: from GNSO input per constituency, consituency could reflect more then one entity Ohter comments? Move forward as with two-letter ? Check general principles? Annebeth Lange Members asked to share their views. Members should share their thoughts. (From chat) Co-chairs, really need you as WG members to come with your views. We are here as facilitators, but it is difficult without comments from you. Lars and his team have done an excellent job to summarize and tried to make an analysis, but we really need your views on that. Carlos: Co-chairs are interested in putting for a strawman bfeore Marrakesh meeting. Laura Hutchinson (from chat): I support the idea of using the document created by staff as a starting point. The strawman document worked very well for the first part of our work so think it would make sense to follow that method again this time. General discussion: What policy rationale can drive the outcome. Need to defend the recommendation No uniform position. Be careful what policy can drive Suggestion for change: First goal is whether it is possible to define a framework? Is it possible to find a common ground Defintion in CTN documents should reflect purpose in charter: not to develop policy. The terms are "Feasibility" and "definitional framework" Paul Szyndler: Staff needs guidance to start work. It is in remit of CTN to talk about agreed principles. An acceptable outcome could also be that there is no acceptable set of principles. Action all: 1. Check if responses are captured proporely? 2. Concern is there is diversity? 3. Suggestion how to move forward, specifically in light of the diversity Request to share on email list (the sooner the better) Staff will not summarise the responses ot 3 questions. 3. Next steps, incl work plan until Marrakech Based on responses to 3 questions, chart work to Marrakesh Include general observations in document what "status quo² means for use of 3 letter-codes as TLDs. Working definition of status quo: Confirm policies and their implementation (add examples of 3 -letter codes, including overview/number of 3-letter codes resulting from new gTLD process and Fast Track process). 4. AOB Staff support: Understanding that GAC would like to have meeting with leadership of the group ( tentatively and preferably on Sunday afternoon, 6 March 2016). Suggestion: not to make it a leadership meeting from CTN side. Staff understanding: Whole of the GAC, needs to be confirmed. No further comments. Closure at 21.55 Next meeting 25 January 2016, 21.00 UTC

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