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invitation to submit comments or questions related to the post-Helsinki progress report
by Joke Braeken Sept. 9, 2016

Sept. 9, 2016

Dear all, As discussed during the latest call on 29 August @21UTC, you are kindly invited to submit comments or questions related to the post-Helsinki progress report. Please find the latest version in attachment. Discussion on the list is more than welcome, but please make changes related to the progress report in the report itself. Deadline: Monday 13 September, end of day. Best regards, Joke Braeken ccNSO Policy Advisor joke.braeken(a)icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org> Follow @ccNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ccNSO Follow the ccNSO on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ccnso/ http://ccnso.icann.org

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notes taken during the CWG-UCTN call on 29 august at 21 UTC
by Joke Braeken Aug. 30, 2016

Aug. 30, 2016

Dear all, Please find the notes taken during the CWG-UCTN call on 29 august at 21 UTC below. The most recent version of the strawman paper, as shown during the call, will be shared with the WG list shortly. Best regards, Joke Braeken CWG – Use of Country and Territory Names as top-level domains Monday 29 August 2016 at 21:00 UTC Agenda 1. Welcome 2. Discussion strawman paper post-Helsinki 3. Next call 4. AOB Apologies Laura Watkins, Paul Szyndler, Carlos Raul Gutierrez, Sanna Sahlman, Ron Sherwood Notes Chair: Heather Forrest. Role call First meeting since F2F in Helsinki. draft strawman paper was sent out. Comments by Heather Forrest, Annebeth Lange, Susan Payne. This WG has 4 co-chairs, but unfortunately there is an overlap with another call, so only 2 co-chairs are present at the meeting today. Helsinki: cross-community forum on topic of geographic names Strawman paper was commented by the co-chairs and some participants Any comments? Susan Payne: No substantive comments, but those included relate to the final part with the recommendations. If this group decides it cannot develop a harmonized framework, in the recommendations we should include who should do it. Suggestion is to go to PDP on Subsequent Procedures Heather: we should clarify the rationale for the recommendations. Concern about setting up as CCWG: CCWG has an uncertain form but uncertain as to PDP But not PDP body by itself Annebeth: Difficult to find to a way forward. Agree that output needs to included in PDP's Most logical that it will be PDP Be mindful that others may need to have a say on par Agree on way forward that there is a result Cheryl: As particpant in Subsequent procedure. A specific need for balanced input Not necessary bias to specific part or interests Equal participation needs to be warranted. Heather: sensitive to concern about representation Certain groups in the community might need to be able to participate for various reasons, for example competing efforts However not a structural problem. PDP charter Flaws this group limited charter. Because dealing with harmonised framework should be broader. Annebeth: Difficult for other stakeholders to participate in PDP by the GNSO. it feels like foreign territory. How can we work even better together? Bart: 2 observations: 1. limited framework is first and foremost an issue for participants in this WG from the GNSO side. The ccNSO does not have issues with other geographic names. But to move this fwd, it needs the support of all groups. it is really a GNSO issue, not a ccNSO 2. staff support on PDP for selection of IDN ccTLDs. moving forward, there might be some overlap between the subsequent round, and the work of this WG. Overlap and definitions. Heather: Cheryl’s comment regarding motivation. PDP’s meet weekly. there is pressure to do things in a timely way. Monthly webinars for newcomers. How to participate in WGs, and in the work of the GNSO? Annebeth: webinars are useful. groups such as ccNSO and GAC are interested in a few of the total aspects that are of interest of the GNSO. too overwhelming to follow it all. Heather: Reference to our talk with Jeff Neumann in Helsinki. their charter covers the issues related to geographic names more broadly. ability to deal with things in more substantive ways. Work Stream 2 deals with this issue. We could go back to the leadership of the workstream and the PDP working group, whether it could be consolidated into a substream. Cheryl Langdon Orr: agrees this is a good idea. Definite and proactive approach, to look for opportunities to have specified outreach and engagement. We need to make sure we are as inclusive as possible. Bart: using the PDP on subsequent procedures does not resolve that in some areas (full names of countries), there will be an overlap with a policy remit of another SO (the ccNSO in this case). if something comes out that affects the ccNSO policy, that needs to be avoided. That is why this CWG was created: trying to avoid overlap between policy remits. However, it seems that a harmonized framework is not possible. So this was raised as a future concern. Heather: in the AGB are other areas of overlap probably. engage the SO's involved. Next steps: strawman paper: progress report to be finalised and to be sent out to the community. WG members are invited to take time to raise comments, or questions Everything that may impact the draft, should be sent to the list, as comments inside the document itself, not included in the body of an email. Deadline: in 2 weeks. Timeline: next F2F meeting in Hyderabad. process: desire to have some conclusion on where we are with this before Hyderabad. 2 weeks on the list to review the comments, and to respond to questions. I n the next call we will discuss the next version of the draft. that should allow us to make it to the deadline. Nigel Cassimire agrees with the proposal. We should agree on a way forward. perhaps include clearer articulations agreed upon Strawman background, contextual information would be helpful and should be included: footnotes should not just include the URL, but be more detailed. Action Items 1. Staff to 2 present 2 documents at the next meeting: substantive document + progress report post Helsinki. 2. WG members to comment on the strawman paper to date. Deadline: 12 September Next call: TBD Joke Braeken ccNSO Policy Advisor joke.braeken(a)icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org> Follow @ccNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ccNSO Follow the ccNSO on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ccnso/ http://ccnso.icann.org

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agenda CWG-UCTN call taking place on Monday, 29 August 2016 at 2100 UTC.
by Joke Braeken Aug. 30, 2016

Aug. 30, 2016

Dear all, Please find below the agenda for the CWG-UCTN call taking place on Monday, 29 August 2016 at 2100 UTC. 14:00 PDT, 17:00 EDT, 22:00 London, 23:00 CEST, (Tuesday) 05:00 Beijing, (Tuesday) 07:00 Sydney for other places see: http://tinyurl.com/hhb37c8 AGENDA 1. Welcome 2. Discussion strawman paper post-Helsinki 3. Next call 4. AOB Best regards, Joke Braeken ccNSO Policy Advisor joke.braeken(a)icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org> Follow @ccNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ccNSO Follow the ccNSO on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ccnso/ http://ccnso.icann.org

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post-Helsinki strawman paper: next call scheduled for Monday 29 August, 21 UTC
by Joke Braeken Aug. 30, 2016

Aug. 30, 2016

Dear All, Following the events at ICANN56 in Helsinki, staff drafted a strawman paper, as requested by the CWG-UCTN co-chairs. The attached paper lays out the Group’s discussion to-date, and provides the working group’s conclusions and recommendations in relation to the Group’s main objective. This document aims at generating a discussion among the group, regarding the next steps, taking into account that the main objective of the WG is to provide advice regarding the feasibility of developing a consistent and uniform definitional framework that is applicable across the respective SO's and AC's defining rules guiding the use of country and territory names as top-level domains that, ideally, can be applied objectively to alpha-2 and alpha-3 ISO 3166-1 codes as well as full country and territory names. Next meetings: 1. Monday 22 August, 21 UTC. CANCELLED. The co-chairs preferred to allow WG members sufficient time to review the post-Helsinki strawman paper, and to comment on it 2. Monday 29 August, 21 UTC. A calendar invite will follow. On the agenda: discussion of the post-Helsinki strawman paper 3. Monday 19 September, 21 UTC. A calendar invite will follow Best regards, Joke Braeken ccNSO Policy Advisor joke.braeken(a)icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org> Follow @ccNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ccNSO Follow the ccNSO on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ccnso/ http://ccnso.icann.org

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Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat for Cross-Community Working Group on Use of Country/Territory Names as TLDs
by Michelle DeSmyter Aug. 30, 2016

Aug. 30, 2016

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Cross-Community Working Group on Use of Country/Territory Names as TLDs meeting held on Monday, 29 August 2016 at 21:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-cwg-ctn-29aug16-en.mp3 <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-cwg-ctn-29aug16-en.mp3> On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#aug The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: ccNSO: Annebeth Lange, .no Timo Vohmar, .ee GNSO Heather Forrest, IPC (co-Chair) Alexander Schubert, RySG Colin O’Brien, IPC Robin Gross, NCSG Griffin Barnett, IPC Maxim Alzoba, NTAG (GNSO) Susan Payne, NTAG (GNSO) ALAC: Cheryl Langdon-Orr GAC: Milagros Castanon Seoane Nigel Cassimire Panagiotis Papaspiliopoulos Additional Members: Jaap Akkerhuis ( ISO 3166 Expert) Apologies: Carlos Raul Gutierrez, NPOC (co-Chair) Ron Sherwood, .vi Sanna Sahlman, .fi Paul Szyndler (co-Chair), .au Laura Watkins, .uk (ccNSO) ICANN staff: Bart Boswinkel Marika Konings Emily Barabas Joke Braeken Michelle DeSmyter ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives:http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ctn-crosscom/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/_w_sAw Thank you. Kind regards, Michelle **************** Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 29 August 2016: Michelle DeSmyter:Dear All, Welcome to the CWG-UCTN call on Monday, 29 August 2016 at 21:00 UTC. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Good Evening Michelle DeSmyter:Hello, welcome Maxim! mcastanon:hello everyone Joke Braeken:Welcome everyone. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I think we will see more people in 10 minutes Emily Barabas:Hello All! Bart Boswinkel:Hi All Alexander Schubert:Hello all.... Nigel Cassimire:Hello, All. Alexander Schubert:I see at least 3 people who are leaving today in seconds to greet Tuesday....... Heather Forrest:We'll get started very shortly, thank you everyone for joining Susan Payne:hello Nigel Cassimire:Hearing well. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Hi all Alexander Schubert:For most it is 29th--- Alexander Schubert:Me 30th as well! Griffin Barnett:Heather -- did we need to start the recording for the meeting? Michelle DeSmyter:yes Michelle DeSmyter:yes Michelle DeSmyter:can you hear me? Susan Payne:yes Griffin Barnett:I hear you Emily Barabas:yes Annebeth Lange:Could you call me, please, I just got home from travel. +4795911559 Annebeth Lange:I am here,but have no connection. Calling from the train station and try to get in touch. Joke Braeken:hi Annebeth, we will dial out to you Annebeth Lange:Thanks Annebeth Lange:Susan came with comments as well Annebeth Lange:In addition there has been an extensive discussion on the mailing list Annebeth Lange:Hi Heather, I am on phone now Heather Forrest:Joke or Michelle, could you enable participants to scroll through the document and make the document a bit bigger so easier to see? Heather Forrest:Just one step larger on the document if possible, pleas Heather Forrest:please Joke Braeken:hi Heather, thanks. this was done. Robin Gross:ALAC membes were among the most active during the PDP for new gtlds. Alan and Evan in particular were heavily participating in the PDP which set the rules. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):workload and focused motivation, Heather... Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes a few of our overcommited volunteers can become highly involved, nor are there designed 'barriers to engagement' but we're still going to need to work very hard to ensure that the voice and interests of all the "Significantly Interested Parties" on this topic... Heather Forrest:Thank you Joke for sorting out the document on screen Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):are heard and considered Heather Forrest:I'll turn to Bart next and then make some comments about GNSO PDP - perhaps some notes we can take back to the GNSO Robin Gross:For example, the concept of the "Independent Objector" was an ALAC proposal for new gtlds that was included in the policy. Robin Gross:And the "morality and public order" recommendations came mainly from GAC and ALAC, and again, were included in the final GNSO policy. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):thx Bart Annebeth Lange:I totally agree on that, Heather. Heather Forrest:We have a separate work stream within the Subsequent Procedures PDP - we could carve out this issue within the work stream to avoid the problem you raise, Annebeth Susan Payne:@ Heather - yes, subsequent procedures is covering an issue on at least two calls before considering it dealt with to help allow for the fact that everyone cannot be on every call Susan Payne:that was a comment on an earlier point rather than the one you just typed :) Annebeth Lange:Work streams are good ideas, and try to find who is interested in which work streatm Annebeth Lange:That sounds like a good idea, Heaterh Susan Payne:I think a substream would be a very good idea. And WS2 has only just started (1 kick off meeting) so very timely Annebeth Lange:Agreed, Bart. The rest of the geographical names complicated the discussions. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes so true Bart, and whatever happens it has to be timely Alexander Schubert:Who asked for a "harmonized framework" in the first pace? Bart Boswinkel:Study Group Bart Boswinkel:ccNSO Alexander Schubert:WHy? Bart Boswinkel:because of overlap[ Alexander Schubert:Not feasable.... Annebeth Lange:Alexander, what is the option? Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):And bring Open Minded re possible solutions Bart..Yes Annebeth Lange:There have been a lot of interesting input from members on the mailing list, but it would be usefult to put it in the draft as well Alexander Schubert:Well: The next round starts in 2020 - sometime before we need to know how to apply for 3166 III and country names as gTLD. Annebeth Lange:Alexander: :-) Alexander Schubert:If we also want "solutions" for the 2nd level - wholly separate issue..... Annebeth Lange:I agree, Heather Annebeth Lange:We are dealing with first level here, please no more confusion here. Annebeth Lange:Agreed, Bart. Annebeth Lange:And also suggesting the way forward Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes Joke Braeken:I will soon send out the latest version to the mailing list Annebeth Lange:Thank you, Heather, for chairing. You're the best! Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):bye all Griffin Barnett:Thanks Heather, bye all Nigel Cassimire:Thank you , Heather and all. Bye now. Colin O'Brien:Thanks for chairing Heather. jaap akkerhuis:by all Joke Braeken:thank you! bye! Alexander Schubert:Bye to all! Robin Gross:thanks, bye Timo Võhmar:bye Heather Forrest:Thanks everyone Heather Forrest:Thanks Michelle and Joke!

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Update: Survey on Newcomer Tools
by Nathalie Peregrine Aug. 16, 2016

Aug. 16, 2016

Dear ICANN Community member, Further to our previous email we have encountered some technical difficulties with the survey which was previously sent out. To that end we have prepared a replacement and would ask you to still complete it by 11 September 2016. The revised survey is available here - https://goo.gl/forms/nUO214NICcPm7jc83 The responses which have already been received will be tracked through by staff to ensure their inclusion in the final report. Should you have any further comments please do not hesitate to contact us. Kind regards, David From:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Nathalie Peregrine Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 7:20 AM To: gnso-rpm-wg(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> Cc: gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: [gnso-rpm-wg] Survey on Newcomer Tools Dear ICANN Community member, We need your input to improve GNSO newcomer and training tools. GNSO Council has directed<http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/resolutions#201607> staff to develop a survey to assess the familiarity that the community has with the different newcomer and training tools as well as their perceived usefulness. Staff would kindly request that you complete the attached survey available here<http://www.clicktools.com/go?iv=1063kkc3v1m98>. Please provide your response by 11 September 2016. Should you have any further comments please do not hesitate to contact us. Kind regards, David Tait David A. Tait Policy Specialist (Solicitor qualified in Scotland) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Mobile: + 44-7864-793776 Email: david.tait(a)icann.org<mailto:david.tait@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

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Survey on Newcomer Tools
by Nathalie Peregrine Aug. 11, 2016

Aug. 11, 2016

Dear ICANN Community member, We need your input to improve GNSO newcomer and training tools. GNSO Council has directed<http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/resolutions#201607> staff to develop a survey to assess the familiarity that the community has with the different newcomer and training tools as well as their perceived usefulness. Staff would kindly request that you complete the attached survey available here<http://www.clicktools.com/go?iv=1063kkc3v1m98>. Please provide your response by 11 September 2016. Should you have any further comments please do not hesitate to contact us. Kind regards, David Tait David A. Tait Policy Specialist (Solicitor qualified in Scotland) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Mobile: + 44-7864-793776 Email: david.tait(a)icann.org<mailto:david.tait@icann.org> www.icann.org

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