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Re: [Ctn-crosscom] Next Meeting
by Annebeth Lange May 30, 2016

May 30, 2016

Dear Lars and all, Thank you for summarising status and discussions, Lars. A good starting point. Please find some comments from .no. Kind regards, Annebeth Annebeth B. Lange Head of Legal and Policy UNINETT Norid AS P.O.Box 6979 St. Olavs plass NO-0130 Oslo annebeth.lange(a)uninett.no<mailto:annebeth.lange@uninett.no> Mobile: +47 959 11 559 From: <ctn-crosscom-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:ctn-crosscom-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Lars Hoffmann <lars.hoffmann(a)icann.org<mailto:lars.hoffmann@icann.org>> Date: Thursday 31 March 2016 14:16 To: "ctn-crosscom(a)icann.org<mailto:ctn-crosscom@icann.org>" <ctn-crosscom(a)icann.org<mailto:ctn-crosscom@icann.org>> Subject: [Ctn-crosscom] Next Meeting Dear all, Due to scheduling issues, we are going to move our next meeting from 4 April to Monday 11 April, 21:00 UTC. A separate invitation will go out. Attached you find again the latest version of the paper presented in Marrakech - feel free to comment on or off list or present your comments during the call. Best wishes, Lars

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Notes: Call CWG on the Use of Country and Territory Names as top-level domains, on Monday 23 May at 21 UTC.
by Joke Braeken May 25, 2016

May 25, 2016

Dear All, Please find below the notes taken during the meeting of the CWG on the Use of Country and Territory Names as top-level domains, on Monday 23 May at 21 UTC. Agenda 1. Welcome 2. Preparation for community meetings in Helsinki 3. Any other business 4. Next meeting Notes and Action Items 1. Welcome Meeting chaired by Carlos. We are in the process of finishing the arrangements of the F2F in Helsinki. Today we are concentrating on those preparations. 2. Preparation for community meetings in Helsinki Bart prepared an overview/mindmap for the Wednesday afternoon session, taking place between 15:15 - 16:45 local time. Still pending: a potential meeting between the co-chairs of this WG and the GAC WG. Could be potentially on Tuesday, right after lunch. As for the Wednesday afternoon cross-community session, we will discuss today the following aspects: - GOAL of the session - potential TOPICS - FORMAT - ORGANISATION GOAL: Based on discussion in the last call and after consulting with the co-chairs, the goal is to present an overview of the geo name initiative in general. What is it trying to achieve for the broader community? Explore the feasibility of a harmonsied approach. What is such a harmonised approach, who are the interested parties, and why is it needed? Heather added that we indeed need to make a note of other potentially overlapping activities in the ICANN environment. Alexander S. invites for an RFP : what string do other applicants want to apply for in the next new gTLD round? In certain niches (e.g. community TLDs), the application rules resulted to be not feasible. Bart Boswinkel confirmed that the aim is to come up with a harmonised work. Carlos: one of the biggest challenges is to keep our discussion connected with other initiatives. Have discussions with other processes. PDP on subsequent rounds takess note of all the questions asked here. In the new gTLD round, there is the issue of competition: looking at successful and failed applications Limited work of this group: 2-char and 3-char. TOPICS: Should somehow come back in the format. provide a general lay of the land. What does it mean, to have a fragmented approach, or a harmonised approach? Include the concerns raised by SSAC. Geo vs country & territory names.Probably interesting for GAC, new gTLDS. ccTLDS who have deep concern on use of country and territory names. Core 3-char code differences. Timing: Heather: question regarding timing. Overlap with the GNSO RPM PDP WG. We might loose certain people towards the end of our session. ccNSO scheduled this on wednesday afternoon. Originally, there were 2 alternatives: Tuesday afternoon, or wednesday afternoon. ccNSO meets GAC on Tuesday from 15:15 until 16: 15 followed by session on SOP. Only available slot was Wednesday afternoon. Knowing there are parallel sessions, but from ccNSO perspective, this was the best alternative. Carlos: we welcome good conversation between both organisations, ccNSO and GNSO. 1,5h in this framework is much appreciated, even though there are conflicting sessions. BB: meeting is not limited to ccNSO and GNSO. Others are invited to attend. Clear intention to have a true cross-community session, including the SSAC topic. Marika: suggestion to having this session as a sub-topic on Tuesday afternoon. Jaap discussed the concern of the SSAC: Many people claim having a say in Top Level Domains. e.g. dot onion. TLD to be reserved, but not used for DNS protocol.ISO3166 list, IETF ... None of these groups are talking to each other. Each group develops its own policies, according to the caffetaria-model: you pick what you want. 3-letter codes and geographic names are unrelated. SSAC is trying to come up with a study: wo does what. ISO3166 does not even mention supernational areas such as (dot) amazon. Feasibility of a harmonsied approach in a broader context is being explored here. FORMAT practicalities. How do we bring the different topics forward and how to engage the audience? Those who are interested, but not experts, should be able to follow too. Suggestion to have Panel discussions, in speed panels. Discussions on 1 or 3 core issues, that need to be identified. Presenters to be identified, and moderator too. Suggested way forward: Brief discussion, and then engage community as much as possibly by asking specifiic questions, and then have the sense of the temperature in the room. Thus you can discuss different topics relatively quickly, and engage the community. Heather raised again the issue that you risk to miss certain GNSO people due to a conflicting session. BB: we need to get back to WG. if it is embedded in another session, the ccTLDS may not be interested. Moreover, you only have 10 minutes time if you embed it on Tuesday, instead of the 90 minutes time the ccNSO can offer. Final schedule arrangements are due to ICANN no later than Wednesday. ORGANISATION: The cross-community forum on Wednesday afternoon, under auspices of the ccNSO, is still open for discussion, due to schedule overlapping issues raised by the GNSO. Does the WG want to continue with this 90 min session on Wednesday afternoon under auspices of the ccNSO, or go instead for an embedded 10 min session on Tuesday? An answer to this question needs to be provided no later than Wednesday, when schedule arrangements are due to ICANN. Once this is clear: - People on call need to agree on the format, - the core topics need to be identified. - session chair, presenters, moderators, speed panelists need to be identified and contacted. 3. Any other business none 4. Next meeting Best regards, Joke Braeken ccNSO Policy Advisor joke.braeken(a)icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org> Follow @ccNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ccNSO Follow the ccNSO on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ccnso/ http://ccnso.icann.org

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Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat Cross-Community Working Group on Use of Country/Territory Names as TLDs 23 May 2016
by Nathalie Peregrine May 24, 2016

May 24, 2016

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Cross-Community Working Group on Use of Country/Territory Names as TLDs meeting held on Monday, 23 May 2016 at 20:00 UTC at: <http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=NrFWbrBstcrPWP369qgbqlXiSKeL20xnUXz…> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ctn-23may16-en.mp3<http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ctn-23may16-en.mp3 > <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ctn-23may16-en.mp3 > On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: ccNSO: Ron Sherwood, .vi Sebastien Pensis, .eu Young-eum Lee, .kr GNSO Heather Forrest, IPC (co-Chair) Carlos Raul Guttierez, NPOC (co-Chair) Griffin Barnett, IPC Maxim Alzoba, NTAG (GNSO) Alexander Schubert, RySG ALAC: Cheryl Langdon-Orr Expert: Jaap Akkerhuis ( ISO 3166 Expert) Apologies: Susan Payne, NTAG (GNSO) Laura Hutchinson, .uk (ccNSO) Colin O’Brien, IPC Annebeth Lange, .no Panagiotis Papaspiliopoulos Sanna Sahlman, .fi ICANN staff: Marika Konings Lars Hoffman Brian Aitchison Bart Boswinkel Joke Braeken Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives:http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ctn-crosscom/ Wiki page:https://community.icann.org/x/X7XhAg Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie **************** Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 23 May 2016: Nathalie Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to the meeting of the Use of Country and Territory Names as top-level domains CWG on the 23 May 2016 Nathalie Peregrine:Agenda wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/5wKOAw Carlos Raul Gutierrez:Hola Nathalie!!!! Carlos Raul Gutierrez:how are the kids doing? sleeping? Nathalie Peregrine:Welcome Carlos! And yes, please do not jinx it :) Carlos Raul Gutierrez::) Bart Boswinkel:Hi All Carlos Raul Gutierrez:Hello you all Heather Forrest:Hello everyone Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Hello everyone Ron Sherwood:Hi everyone Alexander Schubert:Hey there, hello to you all! Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Hi Joke Braeken:Hello everyone Carlos Raul Gutierrez:I see a rather long list a apologies Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Sorry I was wrapping up another call Nathalie Peregrine:Young-eum lee has joined the call Nathalie Peregrine:Jaap Akkerhuis has joined the AC room jaap akkerhuis:Having network problems, sorry for the delay Nathalie Peregrine:Welcome! Heather Forrest:Bart - I have a question about timing Marika Konings:the latest draft of the schedule can be found here:https://community.icann.org/display/ccmeetschedplan/Meeting+Schedule+P… Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I will have to attend RPM PDP session Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):I have overlap re the post 1500 slot as well but planned to be with us for the 1st part jaap akkerhuis:Sound is very spotty for me as well Nathalie Peregrine:@ Carlos, we can dial out to you in order to improve on your audio, please let me know if you would like us to Carlos Raul Gutierrez:I´m fine Carlos Raul Gutierrez:haven´t lost a word so far Carlos Raul Gutierrez:unless you can´t hear me...... Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):I would have had clashes all of the Te afternoon ... There is always cashes Heather Forrest:GNSO did indeed request geo names as a separate topic but we didn't get a spot Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes Marika It is Tue Heather Forrest:I don't want us to get in trouble with Meeting B scheduling Marika Konings:I just found the topics that were available for selection for a cross-community slot, and this topic was grouped in with the new gTLD Subsequent Procedures together with other topics (6PDP New gTLD Subsequent ProceduresIssues related to the assessment of the first new gTLD round and the preparation of subsequent rounds:a. Metrics: (what empirical data is available for evidence-based policy-making on new gTLDs)b. Promoting applications from underserved regions/developing countries: (lessons learnt and proposals for next rounds)c. Community applications: (lessons learnt and proposals for next rounds)d. Geographic Names and other Names of public interest: (lessons learnt and proposals for next rounds)e. CCWG Country and Territory Namesf. Safeguards / PICs: (experiences made during first round and lessons learnt for next rounds)g. CCT Review: (lessons learnt so far and proposals for next rounds) Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):.onion is in IANA table Carlos Raul Gutierrez:its a RESERVED name Marika Konings:the new gTLD Subsequent Procedures Cross-Community Session is currently scheduled for Tuesday afternoon from 17.00 - 18.30. Bart Boswinkel:Please note the scheduling is moving around at the request of the GNSo. I also want to convey concenr of the ccNSO Porgramme Wg that some / large proportion of the ccTD presnts will most likely not atttend the meeting Bart Boswinkel:the blocks ar eopen fro cross-community sessions Heather Forrest:If we are on the agenda at Subsequent Procedures we need to seize that time Bart Boswinkel:Tuesday will have other meetings Alexander Schubert:Some Geo names ARE 3 letter codes! Bart Boswinkel:orgnaised byt he ccNSo at that time Heather Forrest:Marika - do you know, is there a point person planning the subsequent procedures timeslot? Bart, maybe we should liaise with them before going forward? Marika Konings:The session leader is identified as 'GNSO' so I suspect that the new gTLD PDP WG is hoping to take charge, so I would suggest you reach out to the chairs of that group (Jeff Neuman, Avri Doria and Stephen Coates) as well as support staff (Steve Chan/Julie Hedlund) to see if that is indeed the case? Heather Forrest:Great, that sounds like a good way forward Carlos Raul Gutierrez:@Marika@Heather I will reach out to new gTLDs Heather Forrest:Plus it gives us an opportunity to open dialogue with them Marika Konings:Apologies, I have to drop off here. Do let me know if there is anything I can do to assist. Alexander Schubert:Germany? Carlos Raul Gutierrez:sorry Carlos Raul Gutierrez:I meant .ch and .suisse Carlos Raul Gutierrez:great Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):SET UP LOOKS OK TO ME BART Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):WE NEED TO BE ONTERACTIVE Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Sorry CAPS Carlos Raul Gutierrez:txs CLO (=> 3-letter code for Cheryl) Ron Sherwood:@ Bart +1 Heather Forrest:Good to know, Bart, thank you Carlos Raul Gutierrez:How long do we have to confimr the meeting??? Heather Forrest:Meeting B is a huge challenge. Hopefully we can get the people we're interested in in the room but it might be a challenge Heather Forrest:@ Carlos - Bart says finalised schedule by Wednesday Carlos Raul Gutierrez:this week? Heather Forrest:Yes, this week Heather Forrest:Hooray Bart! Heather Forrest:No other issues from me jaap akkerhuis:bye bye Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):bye Alexander Schubert:Bye Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):bye Ron Sherwood:Thank you everyone bye for now Sebastien Pensis:Goodbye all, thank you

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Helsinki session CTN
by Bart Boswinkel May 23, 2016

May 23, 2016

Dear all, Please find included overview potential cross-community session on Helsinki. Kind regards, Bart

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Re: [Ctn-crosscom] [Ntfy-ctn-crosscom] REMINDER: **New date: Meeting Invitation: CWG on country and territory names as TLDs on 23 May 2016 21:00 UTC
by Panagiotis Papaspiliopoulos May 23, 2016

May 23, 2016

Dear all, I am sorry, but I cannot participate in the conference call due to family obligations. I look forward to receiving the minutes of the meeting and I apologise for any inconvenience. Kind regards, Panos/GREECE --- Panagiotis Papaspiliopoulos Senior Policy Advisor - Telecommunications Expert Hellenic Ministry of Infrastructure, Transport & Networks General Secretariat of Telecommunications & Post General Directorate of Telecommunications & Post tel: +30 210 650 8538 fax: +30 210 650 8533 email: p.papaspil[at]yme.gov.gr On 20/05/2016 15:50, Terri Agnew wrote: > **PLEASE MAKE SURE TO DELETE THE CALENDAR ENTRY FOR 16 MAY 2016 AND ADD NEW CALENDAR ENTRY OF 23 MAY 2016. > > Dear All, > > The next meeting of the CWG on country and territory names as TLDs is scheduled on MONDAY, 23 MAY 2016 AT 2100 UTC. > > 14:00 PDT, 17:00 EDT, 22:00 London, 22:00 CEST, (Tuesday) 05:00 Beijing, (Tuesday) 07:00 Sydney > > for other places see: http://tinyurl.com/jylaxks [1] > > A calendar invite for this call will be sent in a few minutes. 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Next meeting postponed
by Lars Hoffmann May 11, 2016

May 11, 2016

Dear all, Following some scheduling issues of the co-Chairs, the next CWG-UCTN will be delayed until Monday 23 May, 21:00 UTC. Separate emails one with the dial-in information and another with the agenda will be sent out in due course. Many thanks and best wishes, Lars

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Public forum session in Helsinki - invitees
by Susan Payne May 5, 2016

May 5, 2016

Hi all, I was sorry to miss the WG call this week, but have caught up with the transcript and see that there is an action item for us to identify individuals or organisations who might be specifically invited to some form of public forum session in Helsinki. Here are my suggestions - I am assuming that for groups/organisations they will probably identify internally if there is a more appropriate person to be a specific representative: Leadership from the GNSO SGs and Cs - this topic is of particular interest for the RySG, BC, IPC and NCSG I believe; Organisations/Individuals who submitted comments to the late 2015 Proposal on Geographic Names from the group of GAC members. Although the GAC subgroup proposal covered additional geographic terms, it was agreed on the last call that there is strong overlap with this WG. A number of organisations and individuals submitted comments on this proposal and so they are clearly informed on and interested in this topic. Many seem to be outside of the formal ICANN structure, and so I think it would be helpful to specifically invite them. Below is my guess as to which of these tend to come to ICANN meetings (or have members who do so) and who could therefore be expected to wish to attend in person. Of the others, perhaps an early invitation might even help them in considering whether to attend. Generally Represented at ICANN meetings: Brand Registry Group - Martin Sutton (Exec Director) Domain Name Association - Roy Arbeit (Exec Director) i2 Coalition - Christian Dawson (Chairman & Co-founder Internet Infrastructure Coalition) International Trademark Association - John McElwaine (Chair of the Internet Committee); Lori Schulman (Senior Director, Internet Policy) MARQUES Cyberspace Team - Alan Ramsay (Company Secretary) Gareth Dickson (formerly Edwards Wildman, now Cooley LLP) Possibly do not generally attend ICANN meetings: Association Internationale pour la Protection de la Propriété Intellectuelle (AIPPI) - Sarah Matheson (Reporter General) Association of National Advertisers - Dan Jaffe (Group EVP, Government) Technology Policy Institute - Thomas M. Lenard (President and Senior Fellow) The Internet Business Council for Africa The University of Akron School of Law - Jacqueline D. Lipton, (Ph.D.), David L. Brennan (Professor of Law; Director, The Center for Intellectual Property Law and Technology) U.S. Chamber of Commerce - Adam C. Schlosser (Director, Center for Global Regulatory Cooperation) U.S. Council for International Business - Barbara P. Wanner (Vice President, IC Policy) Susan Susan Payne Head of Legal Policy | Valideus Ltd 28-30 Little Russell Street London, WC1A 2HN, United Kingdom E: susan.payne(a)valideus.com<mailto:susan.payne@valideus.com> D: +44 20 7421 8255 T: +44 20 7421 8299 M: +44 7971 661175 Liability cannot be accepted for statements made which are clearly the sender's own and not made on behalf of Valideus Ltd. This message is intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to us, and immediately and permanently delete it. Do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Valideus Ltd is registered in England and Wales with company number 06181291 and VAT number 987 7551 49. Our registered office is at 28-30 Little Russell Street, London, WC1A 2HN.

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Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat Cross-Community Working Group on Use of Country/Territory Names as TLDs 02 May 2016
by Terri Agnew May 3, 2016

May 3, 2016

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Cross-Community Working Group on Use of Country/Territory Names as TLDs meeting held on Monday, 02 May 2016 at 20:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ctn-02may16-en.mp3<http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=NrFWbrBstcrPWP369qgbqlXiSKeL20xnUXz…> On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: ccNSO: Annebeth Lange, .no Ron Sherwood, .vi Sebastien Pensis, .eu Sanna Sahlman, .fi Paul Szyndler (co-Chair), .au Mirjana Tasic, .rs Grigori Saghyan, .am GNSO Heather Forrest, IPC (co-Chair) Carlos Raul Guttierez, NPOC (co-Chair) Colin O’Brien, IPC Robin Gross, NCSG Griffin Barnett, IPC ALAC: Cheryl Langdon-Orr GAC: Panagiotis Papaspiliopoulos Apologies: Maxim Alzoba, NTAG (GNSO) Susan Payne, NTAG (GNSO) Jaap Akkerhuis ( ISO 3166 Expert) Laura Hutchinson, .uk (ccNSO) ICANN staff: Joke Braeken Lars Hoffman Brian Aitchison Bart Boswinkel Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives:http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ctn-crosscom/ Wiki page:https://community.icann.org/x/X7XhAg Thank you. Kind regards, Terri **************** Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 02 May 2016: Terri Agnew:Welcome to the CWG on country and territory names as TLDs call held on Monday, 02 May 2016 Terri Agnew:wiki agenda page: https://community.icann.org/x/GkGAAw Ron Sherwood:Hello everyone Bart Boswinkel:Hi All Annebeth Lange:Good evening everybody Colin O'Brien:Hello everyone. Heather Forrest (GNSO co-chair):Good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining today Carlos Raul:Hello Mirjana Tasic .rs:Hello everyone Terri Agnew:Welcome Panagiotis Papaspiliopoulos Carlos Raul:καληνύχτα Terri Agnew:Welcome Paul Szyndler Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Morning Paul Paul Szyndler:Greetings all - apologies for the delay Terri Agnew:Welcome Griffin Barnett Terri Agnew:Welcome Grigori Saghyan Terri Agnew:Meeting Schedule Planning wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/_o5CAw Panagiotis Papaspiliopoulos:I am sorry that, due to the economic situation of Greece, I cannot confirm that I will be present in Helsinki. I suggest to contact Ms Olga Cavalli (chair of the GAC WG on geographic names) to arrange the cross-community meeting. Her email is: occ(a)mrecic.gov.ar<mailto:occ@mrecic.gov.ar> Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Yes i think a CROSS Community Session woud be useful and timely in Helsinki Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):BUT we need to get it into the AGENDA ASAP Annebeth Lange:Ørnulf Storm representing Norway in the GAC is also a member of our WG and I think he is participating in Helsinki Panagiotis Papaspiliopoulos:unfortunately, I cannot see chat messages... Panagiotis Papaspiliopoulos:+1 Annebeth Lange:Question to Panos, would you be able to participate from Greece on remote if this discussion take place there? Annebeth Lange:+1 for your views here, Heather Colin O'Brien:Well said Annebeth. Panagiotis Papaspiliopoulos:As GAC member, I fully agree with Annebeth Panagiotis Papaspiliopoulos:But I still cannot see chat messages... :( Carlos Raul:@CLO +1 with the Forum Idea Annebeth Lange:+1 for Cheryl Sanna Sahlman:I support the idea of public forum Ron Sherwood:@ CLO +1 avoiding litigation Annebeth Lange:Agree Sanna Sahlman:and meeting with GAC as well Annebeth Lange:Bart, could someone copy the chat to Panos, since he does not see it? Carlos Raul:@Sanna of course GAC would be part of the Forum Bart Boswinkel:@ Annebeth: we will Sanna Sahlman:@Carlos: ok, great! Joke Braeken:AC chat will be sent in the follow up attendance, mp3 email Annebeth Lange:What about the form we have had before with red and green cards moderated by Patrick, wasn't that his name? That was quite lively Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Yes they were greeat but I am biased as an organiser Carlos Raul::) Carlos Raul:Forum or Round-Table, with name TBA...... Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):we literally set it up back in the 'old days' as a round (well large square) table woth the audience as 360 round that Annebeth Lange:+1 Annebeth Lange:Bart, so then it will be a panel? But perhaps still with cards Sanna Sahlman:In my opinnion all formats (public forum, round table, panel discussions) have been effective, if the subject is interresting enough! Annebeth Lange:Good Annebeth Lange:Could we ask the WG members to mail us suggestions? Sanna Sahlman:I like the idea of coloured cards. That encourages people to speak up their opinnions. Bart Boswinkel:@Annebeth: you hVW BWWN N lot of wednesday afternoon meetings Bart Boswinkel:you have been involved in a lot of teh Wednesday afternoon sessions Annebeth Lange:@ Bart, you think that format? Carlos Raul:excellent plan! Bart Boswinkel:they wwere different Annebeth Lange:Let us discuss further to find the right way forward Annebeth Lange:THank you Heather for chairing the meeting in an excellent way Colin O'Brien:Thanks Heather and staff! Sanna Sahlman:Thank you all and wellcome to Helsinki! :) Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Thanks everyone, bye for now... Carlos Raul:txs Panagiotis Papaspiliopoulos:Thank you everyone. Have a good night. Bye! Annebeth Lange:GOod night! Ron Sherwood:Thanks all Bye Mirjana Tasic .rs:Bye Grigori Saghyan:Thank you and bye! Heather Forrest (GNSO co-chair):Bye everyone, thanks for joining today's call Panagiotis Papaspiliopoulos:@Carlos καλή νύχτα! Heather Forrest (GNSO co-chair):Many thanks to our excellent ICANN staff

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Notes taken during the session of the CWG-UCTN, on Monday 2 May at 20:00 UTC
by Joke Braeken May 3, 2016

May 3, 2016

Dear all, Please find below the notes taken during the session of the CWG-UCTN, on Monday 2 May at 20:00 UTC. ______________ CWG – Use of Country and Territory Names as top-level domains Monday 02 May 2016 at 20:00 UTC Agenda 1. Welcome 2. Acknowledgement of the comments received on the straw-woman paper to date – 3 character codes as TLDs 3. Suggested approach for ICANN56 in Helsinki 5. AOB Apologies: Maxim Alzoba, Susan Payne, Jaap Akkerhuis, Laura Hutchison Joining few minutes later: Paul Szyndler Notes & Action Items 1. Welcome Welcome by the chair, Heather Forrest. Housekeeping: wiki agenda page. 2. Acknowledgement of the comments received on the straw-woman paper to date – 3 character codes as TLDs Strawwoman paper proposal was drafted based on input received after a survey was circulated. Since the last meeting, comments received from Panagiotis Papaspiliopoulos and Colin O'Brien. The WG is grateful for the comments received, however very few comments were received, and with very different perspectives. This was anticipated. Discussion was started on the list by Alexander Schubert. The chair suggested we should use meeting B, the policy forum, to flash out the differences between the comments received to date, and fill the gaps. There is however still some uncertainty around the format of meeting B, across the different communities: * Approach Meeting B, GNSO (update by Heather) Largely schedule was designed around ongoing PDPs. 2 of those PDPs are dealing with the next round of new gTLD expansion. Only formal F2F meeting is the one with the GAC, primarily to discuss matters around the IANA transition. * Approach Meeting B, ccNSO (update by Annebeth Lange & Bart Boswinkel) Tech Day will take place as usual on Monday. There will be a ccNSO Members Meeting on Tuesday and Wednesday until the afternoon coffee break, followed by cross-community sessions as of 3 pm. Some of the suggested topics proposed for cross-community sessions are not directly relevant for ccTLDs. There will be some cross-community slots under the auspices of the ccNSO in the afternoon, which will be relevant to all communities. Normally the ccNSO Council meeting takes place on Wednesday, but this time it will be Thursday AM, before lunch. There will be plenty of opportunity for cross-community work. * Approach Meeting B, ALAC. (Update by Cheryl Langdon-Orr) The structure is fairly flexible. * Approach Meeting B, GAC (Update by Panagiotis Papaspiliopoulos) No information can be provided by Panagiotis at this point in time regarding the GAC approach to meeting B. However, he confirmed that the GAC-WG on geographic names is aware of the work done by CWG-UCTN. They have been briefed by Ornulf, Panagiotis and other GAC Members. Members of this GAC- group would like to have a cross-community discussion. The chair confirmed that the GNSO agenda does not foresee a slot for the CWG-UCTN as a cross-community topic. ccNSO as other sponsoring organisation on the other hand does. The CWG-UCTN could meet with the GAC on Monday morning. GAC-WG meetings are usually closed, but co-chairs attended in Marrakech. Highly encouraged to attend, if possible. 3. Suggested approach for ICANN56 in Helsinki Meeting B, the policy forum, is an opportunity for open discussion. Bart confirmed that on Tue & Wed the ccNSO Members Days will take place. However, there are open slots for cross-community discussions, organised by the ccNSO, on Tue, Wed and Thu, from 3 to 6 pm. The topics that will be discussed in those afternoon slots, depend on the cross-community slots discussed in parallel in the main room. Cross-community slots organised by the ccNSO could include a session for CWG-UCTN, under the umbrella of the ccNSO. The idea is to get the community more involved into the work of the CWG-UCTN. What is the sense from the floor, on this suggestion? Support from Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Annebeth welcomes the idea as well. Paul Szyndler added that we need to listen as well, not just discuss ourselves. There are various initiatives around geo names in the community at the moment. It is important to understand where there is mutual understanding, where there is overlap. Concerns: * Concern shared by Heather: there is a multiplicity of efforts in the space of geographic names. Moreover, there was an early and confused dialogue with the GAC-WG as to what their scope is, which is geographic and cultural names, other than country and territory names. There is a grey line between what the CWG-UCTN deals with. Concern that divergent solutions will be suggested. * Concern by Annebeth: GAC needs to be involved into the discussion at this very stage. To avoid delays in PDP. * Cheryl Langdon-Orr: avoiding litigation is a must. * Carlos: Danger that we miss the train. one of the other groups might go in another direction. Sanna Sahlman supports the idea of a cross-community session under the auspices of the ccNSO as well. No expressions of discomfort from the other WG members with this idea. Who do we want to invite? * ICANN Board (at least 1 member) * ICANN Legal * Leadership of subsequent procedures PDP (policy that lead to AGB), since the work of the CWG-UCTN will feed into the subsequent PDP work. Invitations should be sent out sooner rather than later. Format: ALAC organised a few years ago an interactive cross-community session on fast track for IDNs. This was moderated by Patrick S. at the time, but there are other good moderators available. At the time, the temperature of the room was measured with coloured cards, which allows people who do not want to come up to the mike to voice their opinion. Heather added that it would be better if the co-chairs do not moderate this session. If we organise a roundtable, and people are not able to attend, we need to have a back-up plan. (E.g. representative for each community, with particular expertise) An open floor format would be less dependent on particular people. But: a bigger format might result in less involvement. Bart added that the ccNSO always uses the temperature cards on Wednesday afternoons during panel discussions. Structured as follows: an introduction to the topic, followed by a short roundtable. Setting the scope and the scene, is then done by people you invite. Mini-panels: 2 or 3 people discussing a topic. Then over to next mini-panel. Each mini-panel talks for about 10 minutes. Questions you need to answer in order to be able to come up with a good format: What is the objective of the meeting itself? What would you like to share? Based on that you can start inviting people. The room, if we stay in the ccNSO room, will have set-up limitations. About 120 people can be seated. Typically there is a bigger table in the front, and the audience sits at tables, placed in rows. Action items: 1. Staff (Lars, Bart, Joke) will prepare a way forward in terms of the format, to be presented to the co-chairs. Strong format with interaction thus guaranteed. 2. Heather repeated the question whether there are any suggestions as to who we like to invite. So far, we came up with: ICANN Board (at least 1 member), ICANN Legal, the leadership of subsequent procedures PDP. The WG members were invited to send further suggestions to the WG mailing list, before the end of this week. 5. AOB Next meeting in 2 weeks time. Thank you! ______________ Best regards, Joke Braeken ccNSO Policy Advisor joke.braeken(a)icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org> Follow @ccNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ccNSO Follow the ccNSO on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ccnso/ http://ccnso.icann.org

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Agenda CWG-UCTN on Monday, 02 May 2016 at 2000 UTC.
by Joke Braeken May 2, 2016

May 2, 2016

Dear all, The co-chairs and staff met last week to: - prepare for today's conference call; - discuss arrangements for the Helsinki meeting; and - take stock of where we are at this point. It was noted by all that we have received some helpful input in comments to the three-letter "straw-woman proposal". But we also agreed that we have not yet received a significant number of comments, and that those we have received present what are, in some senses, diametrically opposed views. With this in mind, we turned to thinking strategically about how to move forward, and specifically whether and how the new ICANN Meeting B "Policy Forum" structure might assist us in doing so. The meeting B format is focused on SO/AC/SG/C policy work and cross-community outreach. Currently geo names as TLDs - including country and territory names - are being discussed by different threads within the ICANN environment, and the Policy Forum in Helsinki is an excellent opportunity for cross-community discussion. We propose that, in our upcoming conference call on May 2nd 20:00 UTC, we not only acknowledge the comments received on the straw-woman to date, but also to have an open discussion about the upcoming Helsinki meeting and how we might strategically use our time there to progress our work. You will find this reflected in the proposed agenda below. We look forward to hearing your thoughts and ideas. AGENDA meeting of the CWG on country and territory names as TLDs scheduled on Monday, 02 May 2016 at 2000 UTC. * Welcome * Acknowledgement of the comments received on the straw-woman paper to date – 3 character codes as TLDs * Suggested approach for ICANN56 in Helsinki * AOB Best regards, Joke Braeken ccNSO Policy Advisor joke.braeken(a)icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org> Follow @ccNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ccNSO Follow the ccNSO on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ccnso/ http://ccnso.icann.org

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