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agenda CWG-UCTN call taking place on Monday, 29 August 2016 at 2100 UTC.
by Joke Braeken Aug. 30, 2016

Aug. 30, 2016

Dear all, Please find below the agenda for the CWG-UCTN call taking place on Monday, 29 August 2016 at 2100 UTC. 14:00 PDT, 17:00 EDT, 22:00 London, 23:00 CEST, (Tuesday) 05:00 Beijing, (Tuesday) 07:00 Sydney for other places see: http://tinyurl.com/hhb37c8 AGENDA 1. Welcome 2. Discussion strawman paper post-Helsinki 3. Next call 4. AOB Best regards, Joke Braeken ccNSO Policy Advisor joke.braeken(a)icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org> Follow @ccNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ccNSO Follow the ccNSO on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ccnso/ http://ccnso.icann.org

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post-Helsinki strawman paper: next call scheduled for Monday 29 August, 21 UTC
by Joke Braeken Aug. 30, 2016

Aug. 30, 2016

Dear All, Following the events at ICANN56 in Helsinki, staff drafted a strawman paper, as requested by the CWG-UCTN co-chairs. The attached paper lays out the Group’s discussion to-date, and provides the working group’s conclusions and recommendations in relation to the Group’s main objective. This document aims at generating a discussion among the group, regarding the next steps, taking into account that the main objective of the WG is to provide advice regarding the feasibility of developing a consistent and uniform definitional framework that is applicable across the respective SO's and AC's defining rules guiding the use of country and territory names as top-level domains that, ideally, can be applied objectively to alpha-2 and alpha-3 ISO 3166-1 codes as well as full country and territory names. Next meetings: 1. Monday 22 August, 21 UTC. CANCELLED. The co-chairs preferred to allow WG members sufficient time to review the post-Helsinki strawman paper, and to comment on it 2. Monday 29 August, 21 UTC. A calendar invite will follow. On the agenda: discussion of the post-Helsinki strawman paper 3. Monday 19 September, 21 UTC. A calendar invite will follow Best regards, Joke Braeken ccNSO Policy Advisor joke.braeken(a)icann.org<mailto:joke.braeken@icann.org> Follow @ccNSO on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ccNSO Follow the ccNSO on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ccnso/ http://ccnso.icann.org

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Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat for Cross-Community Working Group on Use of Country/Territory Names as TLDs
by Michelle DeSmyter Aug. 30, 2016

Aug. 30, 2016

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Cross-Community Working Group on Use of Country/Territory Names as TLDs meeting held on Monday, 29 August 2016 at 21:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-cwg-ctn-29aug16-en.mp3 <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-cwg-ctn-29aug16-en.mp3> On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#aug The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: ccNSO: Annebeth Lange, .no Timo Vohmar, .ee GNSO Heather Forrest, IPC (co-Chair) Alexander Schubert, RySG Colin O’Brien, IPC Robin Gross, NCSG Griffin Barnett, IPC Maxim Alzoba, NTAG (GNSO) Susan Payne, NTAG (GNSO) ALAC: Cheryl Langdon-Orr GAC: Milagros Castanon Seoane Nigel Cassimire Panagiotis Papaspiliopoulos Additional Members: Jaap Akkerhuis ( ISO 3166 Expert) Apologies: Carlos Raul Gutierrez, NPOC (co-Chair) Ron Sherwood, .vi Sanna Sahlman, .fi Paul Szyndler (co-Chair), .au Laura Watkins, .uk (ccNSO) ICANN staff: Bart Boswinkel Marika Konings Emily Barabas Joke Braeken Michelle DeSmyter ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives:http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ctn-crosscom/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/_w_sAw Thank you. Kind regards, Michelle **************** Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 29 August 2016: Michelle DeSmyter:Dear All, Welcome to the CWG-UCTN call on Monday, 29 August 2016 at 21:00 UTC. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Good Evening Michelle DeSmyter:Hello, welcome Maxim! mcastanon:hello everyone Joke Braeken:Welcome everyone. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I think we will see more people in 10 minutes Emily Barabas:Hello All! Bart Boswinkel:Hi All Alexander Schubert:Hello all.... Nigel Cassimire:Hello, All. Alexander Schubert:I see at least 3 people who are leaving today in seconds to greet Tuesday....... Heather Forrest:We'll get started very shortly, thank you everyone for joining Susan Payne:hello Nigel Cassimire:Hearing well. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Hi all Alexander Schubert:For most it is 29th--- Alexander Schubert:Me 30th as well! Griffin Barnett:Heather -- did we need to start the recording for the meeting? Michelle DeSmyter:yes Michelle DeSmyter:yes Michelle DeSmyter:can you hear me? Susan Payne:yes Griffin Barnett:I hear you Emily Barabas:yes Annebeth Lange:Could you call me, please, I just got home from travel. +4795911559 Annebeth Lange:I am here,but have no connection. Calling from the train station and try to get in touch. Joke Braeken:hi Annebeth, we will dial out to you Annebeth Lange:Thanks Annebeth Lange:Susan came with comments as well Annebeth Lange:In addition there has been an extensive discussion on the mailing list Annebeth Lange:Hi Heather, I am on phone now Heather Forrest:Joke or Michelle, could you enable participants to scroll through the document and make the document a bit bigger so easier to see? Heather Forrest:Just one step larger on the document if possible, pleas Heather Forrest:please Joke Braeken:hi Heather, thanks. this was done. Robin Gross:ALAC membes were among the most active during the PDP for new gtlds. Alan and Evan in particular were heavily participating in the PDP which set the rules. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):workload and focused motivation, Heather... Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes a few of our overcommited volunteers can become highly involved, nor are there designed 'barriers to engagement' but we're still going to need to work very hard to ensure that the voice and interests of all the "Significantly Interested Parties" on this topic... Heather Forrest:Thank you Joke for sorting out the document on screen Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):are heard and considered Heather Forrest:I'll turn to Bart next and then make some comments about GNSO PDP - perhaps some notes we can take back to the GNSO Robin Gross:For example, the concept of the "Independent Objector" was an ALAC proposal for new gtlds that was included in the policy. Robin Gross:And the "morality and public order" recommendations came mainly from GAC and ALAC, and again, were included in the final GNSO policy. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):thx Bart Annebeth Lange:I totally agree on that, Heather. Heather Forrest:We have a separate work stream within the Subsequent Procedures PDP - we could carve out this issue within the work stream to avoid the problem you raise, Annebeth Susan Payne:@ Heather - yes, subsequent procedures is covering an issue on at least two calls before considering it dealt with to help allow for the fact that everyone cannot be on every call Susan Payne:that was a comment on an earlier point rather than the one you just typed :) Annebeth Lange:Work streams are good ideas, and try to find who is interested in which work streatm Annebeth Lange:That sounds like a good idea, Heaterh Susan Payne:I think a substream would be a very good idea. And WS2 has only just started (1 kick off meeting) so very timely Annebeth Lange:Agreed, Bart. The rest of the geographical names complicated the discussions. Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes so true Bart, and whatever happens it has to be timely Alexander Schubert:Who asked for a "harmonized framework" in the first pace? Bart Boswinkel:Study Group Bart Boswinkel:ccNSO Alexander Schubert:WHy? Bart Boswinkel:because of overlap[ Alexander Schubert:Not feasable.... Annebeth Lange:Alexander, what is the option? Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):And bring Open Minded re possible solutions Bart..Yes Annebeth Lange:There have been a lot of interesting input from members on the mailing list, but it would be usefult to put it in the draft as well Alexander Schubert:Well: The next round starts in 2020 - sometime before we need to know how to apply for 3166 III and country names as gTLD. Annebeth Lange:Alexander: :-) Alexander Schubert:If we also want "solutions" for the 2nd level - wholly separate issue..... Annebeth Lange:I agree, Heather Annebeth Lange:We are dealing with first level here, please no more confusion here. Annebeth Lange:Agreed, Bart. Annebeth Lange:And also suggesting the way forward Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):yes Joke Braeken:I will soon send out the latest version to the mailing list Annebeth Lange:Thank you, Heather, for chairing. You're the best! Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):bye all Griffin Barnett:Thanks Heather, bye all Nigel Cassimire:Thank you , Heather and all. Bye now. Colin O'Brien:Thanks for chairing Heather. jaap akkerhuis:by all Joke Braeken:thank you! bye! Alexander Schubert:Bye to all! Robin Gross:thanks, bye Timo Võhmar:bye Heather Forrest:Thanks everyone Heather Forrest:Thanks Michelle and Joke!

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Update: Survey on Newcomer Tools
by Nathalie Peregrine Aug. 16, 2016

Aug. 16, 2016

Dear ICANN Community member, Further to our previous email we have encountered some technical difficulties with the survey which was previously sent out. To that end we have prepared a replacement and would ask you to still complete it by 11 September 2016. The revised survey is available here - https://goo.gl/forms/nUO214NICcPm7jc83 The responses which have already been received will be tracked through by staff to ensure their inclusion in the final report. Should you have any further comments please do not hesitate to contact us. Kind regards, David From:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Nathalie Peregrine Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 7:20 AM To: gnso-rpm-wg(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-rpm-wg@icann.org> Cc: gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: [gnso-rpm-wg] Survey on Newcomer Tools Dear ICANN Community member, We need your input to improve GNSO newcomer and training tools. GNSO Council has directed<http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/resolutions#201607> staff to develop a survey to assess the familiarity that the community has with the different newcomer and training tools as well as their perceived usefulness. Staff would kindly request that you complete the attached survey available here<http://www.clicktools.com/go?iv=1063kkc3v1m98>. Please provide your response by 11 September 2016. Should you have any further comments please do not hesitate to contact us. Kind regards, David Tait David A. Tait Policy Specialist (Solicitor qualified in Scotland) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Mobile: + 44-7864-793776 Email: david.tait(a)icann.org<mailto:david.tait@icann.org> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org>

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Survey on Newcomer Tools
by Nathalie Peregrine Aug. 11, 2016

Aug. 11, 2016

Dear ICANN Community member, We need your input to improve GNSO newcomer and training tools. GNSO Council has directed<http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/resolutions#201607> staff to develop a survey to assess the familiarity that the community has with the different newcomer and training tools as well as their perceived usefulness. Staff would kindly request that you complete the attached survey available here<http://www.clicktools.com/go?iv=1063kkc3v1m98>. Please provide your response by 11 September 2016. Should you have any further comments please do not hesitate to contact us. Kind regards, David Tait David A. Tait Policy Specialist (Solicitor qualified in Scotland) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Mobile: + 44-7864-793776 Email: david.tait(a)icann.org<mailto:david.tait@icann.org> www.icann.org

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Call for RSVPs: GNSO Working Group Communication Tools Classroom | 26 July 2016 at 13:00 UTC
by Nathalie Peregrine July 12, 2016

July 12, 2016

GNSO Working Group Communication Tools Classroom | July 26 2016 | 13:00 UTC Please RSVP via this form<http://goo.gl/forms/mR4HD9XNZU> by 25 July 2016. Are you a new GNSO Working Group Member? Do you have questions you never asked about Adobe Connect or other participation tools that are used to facilitate Working Group deliberations? The upcoming Communication Tools Classroom is the place to look for answers to these and any other questions you may have in relation to Working Group tools. Please join the SO/AC Support team on July 26, 2016 at 13:00 UTC for the Communication Tools Classroom. In an informal setting, new Working Group members will be familiarized with the communication tools they will be using when taking part in GNSO Working Groups. Agenda: 1. Welcome 2. Introduction to the SO/AC Support team & Policy Support Staff 3. Where to find relevant information: a. GNSO Master Calendar b. Individual Working Group Wiki pages. 4. Working Group Mailing lists: a. Difference between statuses (Observer/ Member) 5. Working Group Members a. Statements of Interests b. Email invitations c. Calendar invitations 6. Adobe Connect room 7. Questions This session will be recorded and the recordings will be made available on the GNSO Calendar<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar>. We look forward to your participation! Please RSVP via this form<http://goo.gl/forms/mR4HD9XNZU> by 25 July 2016.

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what next?!
by Timo Võhmar July 5, 2016

July 5, 2016

Hi all! ICANN is behind us and I thought I should share some feelings I have about the situation we are at with the topics this WG was convened for. Firstly I must apologize for not being in Helsinki, but I kept my eye on things over the amazing interweb. First of all does anyone else have a feeling that this WG is becoming redundant or already is? No-one seems to expect anything from it any more. Shouldn’t we do something about it? Looking at the facts – gNSO wants the 3 letter codes without restrictions for business, GAC wants the codes protected and leave the decision about the codes as souvern right of the respective country. CcNSO sadly cannot decide. So ccwg seems to be the correct way of trying to solve this by bringing the parties around a table – why do we let gNSO yap about closing this wg and all other initiatives and letting them decide what happens to the country codes and names. Sorry gNSO members for being frank! The codes and names are closed for everybody at the moment. If we cannot find a compromise this is how it stays. As a ccTLD representative I must say that this is much better outcome than no-restrictions-gTLD. But I do not want that, I think there are more countries and organisations out there feeling the same, gNSO does not want that. It seems there is potential here to find a middle ground. Compromise requires steps back from the dream from all sides. ISO 3-letter codes as gTLDs without any restrictions will not happen. ISO 3-letter codes as pure ccTLDs will probably not happen either. Lets try to find something that might happen. Another thing – having these TLD delegation rounds is stupid. So the goal should be to find a process that just works and anyone interested could apply for a TLD at any time. My proposal. 3-letters like 2-letters and country names are marking a country. ISO list is obviously not perfect, but this is what we have, the list is respected and referenced by the UN and ICANN among others so looks like a legit (widely accepted) source for country codes. Each country must have rights to decide what happens to the signs, identifiers, markers etc that represent that country. As country codes, these should also be treated as such. If the respective government explicitly gives up their privileges for the 3 letter code that code becomes gTLD and is delegated like any other. Why would a country give up its control over a TLD? Money - lets have the same rates for having the 3 letter ccTLD as there are for new gTLD. Every country/ccTLD operator/other authorized party must sign the contract with ICANN for the delegation or give up the rights for it. As long as a government has the control over a domain it should be treated as ccTLD and be regulated by the respective country. So it is this process - https://www.iana.org/help/cctld-delegation - that needs to be improved. The take-it-or-leave-it approach. What do you think? Best Regards, Timo Võhmar Arendusjuht / Head of development Eesti Interneti SA / Estonian Internet Foundation Paldiski mnt 80, 10617 Tallinn, Estonia Tel + 372 727 1004 www.internet.ee

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ISO alpha-2 & alpha-3 codes
by Jaap Akkerhuis July 4, 2016

July 4, 2016

All, A word of caution. In the discussion about ISO codes people mention alpha-2 and alpha-3 codes. Note that this only means the form of the code element, it doesn't says a lot about the type of the code. For alpha-2 codes there are the (1) Official Assigned and (2) Reserved codes. There are different types of reservation possible but the most important to note is that "While a code is reserved it will not be used in the standard to represent a country". In general, only official assigned codes are used for ccTLDs (although there are exceptions). The Glossary on the ISO site <http://www.iso.org/iso/country_codes_glossary.html> gives more details about the definitions of the types. And of course the standard itself. It is possible to find out which the various reserved alpha-2 codes are via the Online Browsing Platform (OBP) ISO <https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#home> but the list of reserved alpha-3 codes is as far as I know not publicly available. Regards, jaap

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incendiary questions - cross-community session Country and other Geographic names Forum
by Susan Payne June 26, 2016

June 26, 2016

Dear co-chairs and staff. I am not sure whether you would like suggestions of “incendiary questions” for the cross community forum session? I do have a couple, which could spark lively discussion: Context is irrelevant – use of a personal name or a brand name, even if intended to identify the person or entity (eg Tata), should never be permitted if it matches a geographic term; Trade marks serve no public interest benefit; Is it a problem if 18 months after comments were submitted by the community in response to the proposal from the GAC’s working group on geographic names, those comments have not been addressed? Does it matter that the CWG-UCTN, the Subsequent Procedures PDP and the GAC might all reach different conclusions on the treatment of geo names? For the avoidance of doubt these are not necessarily my own views or those of my employer or clients – but intended to meet the “contentious ideas” criterion. Looking forward to an interesting meeting in Helsinki. Susan Payne Head of Legal Policy | Valideus Ltd 28-30 Little Russell Street London, WC1A 2HN, United Kingdom E: susan.payne(a)valideus.com<mailto:susan.payne@valideus.com> D: +44 20 7421 8255 T: +44 20 7421 8299 M: +44 7971 661175 From: ctn-crosscom-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:ctn-crosscom-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Bart Boswinkel Sent: 10 June 2016 18:22 To: ctn-crosscom(a)icann.org Subject: [Ctn-crosscom] Agenda 13 June 2016, 20.00 UTC + note cross-community session Country and other Geographic names Forum Dear all, Please find included the draft agenda for the upcoming CCWG CTN call 13 June 2016, 20.00 UTC. 1. Welcome and roll-call 2. Discussion on outline of Country and other Geographic Names Forum a. Purpose b. Format c. Topics d. Communication & Outreach e. Next Steps 3. AOB 4. Closure Also included is a draft outline for the session in Helsinki. Discussion of this topic is the main agenda item. Briefing country /territory / geographic names forum in Helsinki. Please note the following The forum is no longer running in parallel with the Right Protection Mechanism session. Following discussions, the latter has been moved to Monday afternoon. - The session will move to the GAC room - Chair of the GAC (and others) expressed a need to be informed about the session asap. Goal/Purpose of the session The topic / theme should be very high-level. Proposed title is: "The eternal debate: country, territory and geographic names in the DNS" Moderator/facilitators TBD Use two moderators: ccNSO person and GNSO person. For their role see format. Note if the WG wants to go for two moderators, they need to be briefed properly and in time. This will need to start before the Helsinki meeting. Chair of the session: TBD Role of the chair: introduce the session, ensure timing etc. Summarize session at the end (action-items, main outcomes/conclusions, which would then feed into the work of the CCWG CTN If the moderators will be from the ccNSO and GNSO, it is suggested that the chair will be from ALAC. Format The chair would set the scene with regard to all of the various initiatives (Use of Study group report). No speakers on each (like the GAC group or even our WG) as that makes it too "heavy". After the high level is provided, the moderators take over and ask particular audience members (to be identified) to answer questions, and then invite the audience to share there views (The best analogy is the "Q&A" current affairs show in Australia - http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/) It is also intended to use the ADOBE Room to send questions to the moderators Topics to be covered We intentionally use contentious ideas (like strawpeople) - "all of the groups of ICANN must harmonize their approach to geo names", "country names belong to countries", "three letter codes are just that, and no country has presumptive rights to them". The more incendiary, the better. Second theme could be: “the need for a harmonized framework is overrated”. This would bring in SSAC, and others who have a concern about that the differences in policies: use different definitions, overlaps etc. Associated to this, the moderators should be given plenty of examples that the former Study Group used and that DO relate to the WG - .com, .cym, .cs (to show dynamics of the ISO 3166-1 list) The moderators should use a lot of audience voting and "temperature of the room" for example through the ADOBE voting tool or show of cards. Note, even a 1/3 positive, 1/3 negative and 1/3 unsure is still a good outcome, highlighting how divisive the issue is. It should be ensured that the session is NOT only about progressing the specific agenda of the WG. It is OK if the debate is more general than the WG's charter (hence title of the session) We need to formulate a "final message". We don’t know where the conversation will go and we must not steer it. But there needs to be a clear "and now what?" at the end. This could be something like “Is there a need for a harmonized framework”. Communication & Outreach 1. Discuss and inform the WG at the Monday call (co-chairs) 2. Who of the WG members will be present in Helsinki and attending the session? 3. Inform and invite community (in particular GAC). Prepare summary of session paper, after call Monday 13 June 20.00 UTC) 4. Post session summary on schedule Next steps 1. Invite and inform session chair and moderators ( 14 June) ( co-chairs/staff) 2. Briefing session with moderators and chair (16 or 17 June) (co-chairs/staff) 3. Additional briefing in Helsinki (Monday morning, assuming moderators and chairs will be in Helsinki) 4. Identify “members in the audience” with particular view/interest (co-chairs/staff/ members of the WG 5. Invite “members of the audience” and explain format (staff on behalf of the co-chairs) 6. F-2-F meeting co-chairs with moderators and chair

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Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat from Cross-Community Working Group on Use of Country/Territory Names as TLDs 13 June 2016
by Michelle DeSmyter June 14, 2016

June 14, 2016

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Cross-Community Working Group on Use of Country/Territory Names as TLDs meeting held on Monday, 13 June 2016 at 20:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-cwg-ctn-13jun16-en.mp3 <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-cwg-ctn-13jun16-en.mp3> On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#june The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: ccNSO: Annebeth Lange, .no Ron Sherwood, .vi Paul Szyndler (co-Chair), .au Mirjana Tasic, .rs Jaqueline Morris, .tt Laura Hutchinson, .uk Young-Eum Lee, .kr GNSO Carlos Raul Guttierez, NPOC (co-Chair) Maxim Alzoba, NTAG Susan Payne, NTAG Alexander Schubert, RySG Additional Members: Jaap Akkerhuis, ISO 3166 Expert Apologies: Heather Forrest, IPC (co-Chair) Colin O'Brien, IPC ICANN Staff: Brian Aitchison Bart Boswinkel Patrick Jones Steve Chan Joke Braeken Michelle DeSmyter ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives:http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ctn-crosscom/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/QxWOAw Thank you. Kind regards, Michelle **************** Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 13 June 2016 Michelle DeSmyter:Dear All, Welcome to the CWG-Use of Country and Territory Names as TLDs on Monday, 13 June 2016 at 20:00 UTC. Joke Braeken:Hello everybody! Alexander Schubert:Hello! Ron Dherwood:Hello All Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Hello Everybody Mirjana Tasic .rs:Hello Evrybody Alexander Schubert:On the gNSO call today it seems that they wait for INPUT from US! Alexander Schubert:Question: Do we expect the group to give US input - or the other way aournd: We giving input to the gNSO? Alexander Schubert:OK Alexander Schubert:Great! Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):audio levels are quite different ... might be an issue with the bridge Alexander Schubert:Microphone input in audio settings Susan Payne:thanks, Annebeth, the cards sound useful Annebeth Lange, ccNSO:Susan, we dont hear you Alexander Schubert:Seems two are speaking Laura Watkins (Hutchison):Agreed - cards sound like a really good way of getting an idea of the views in the room without requiring everyone to speak Susan Payne:THANKS, yes it does Susan Payne:I do have a comment - I think it will be easy to have an incendiary discussion.. Maybe harder to come out with agreed conclusions as we see even in the WG that opinions are very varied Susan Payne:But I do like the idea of the session Annebeth Lange, ccNSO:THank you, SUsan. Comment noted. Young-eum Lee:I will be in Helsinki Mirjana Tasic .rs:I will be there, and I will attend Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I am going to be there Alexander Schubert:I am attending Susan Payne:Me too Laura Watkins (Hutchison):I will be in Helsinki Alexander Schubert:When isthe 2nd GAC meting (regarding ISO alpha 3)? Alexander Schubert:Thanks! Alexander Schubert:Bye! Young-eum Lee:Thanks Alexander Schubert:Great! Mirjana Tasic .rs:Bye, see you Laura Watkins (Hutchison):Thanks - see you in Helsinki! Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):safe flights Susan Payne:thanks all. bye jaap akkerhuis:Bye all! Ron Dherwood:Bye all Joke Braeken:Thank you! bye all.

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