April 2014 - Gac-gnso-cg - lists.icann.org

For review & input - day-to-day co-operation track
by Marika Konings April 30, 2014

April 30, 2014

Dear All, Following yesterday's meeting, we would like to encourage you to review and comment on the objectives and expectations that have been identified in the attached document in relation to day-to-day ongoing co-operation as follows: * For the GAC > * Obtain updates & alerts > * Better understanding of GNSO working methods > * Create greater sensitivity within the GNSO regarding what may constitute > public policy concerns and would/could require GAC input > * Mechanisms to raise issues that would require GNSO policy consideration > * Obtain responses to questions and be able to convey questions / requires for > further information > * Mechanism for finding common grounds in case of conflicting views * For the GNSO > * Encourage timely GAC input into GNSO Policy Development Activities > * Provide a mechanism to flag upcoming GNSO policy issues / answer / relay GAC > questions > * Better understanding of GAC working methods > * Mechanism for ongoing dialogue > * Mechanism for finding common grounds in case of conflicting views Also, the following options to achieve these objectives were identified (not necessarily mutually exclusive): 1. GNSO Liaison(s) to the GAC 2. Group of existing GNSO Council PDP liaisons interacting with the GAC 3. GAC Chairs / GNSO Chairs regular interaction 4. Topic Leads / Buddy System 5. Rethinking recurring joint meetings / conference calls 6. Further develop / expand early awareness & notification notices If there are any options that should be explored as part of the day-to-day cooperation track, please feel free to share those with the mailing list. For your information, during the course of next week, we'll start a separate threat to commence deliberations on options 1 and 2. Thanks, Marika

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RESENT with Adobe chat transcript : MP3 recording GAC / GNSO Consultation Group teleconference Tuesday 29 April 2014 1300 UTC
by Terri Agnew April 29, 2014

April 29, 2014

**Resent with Adobe chat transcript. Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording of the GAC / GNSO Consultation Group teleconference held on Tuesday 29 April 2014 at 1300 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-gac-20140429-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#apr The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Government Advisory Committee Manal Ismail - co-chair - Egypt GNSO Council Jonathan Robinson - co-chair - Registries Stakeholder Group Amr Elsadr - Non Commercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG) Apology: Suzanne Radell - USA Ana Neves - Portugal Brian Winterfeldt - Councillor Volker Greimann - Vice Chair ICANN Staff: Marika Konings Glen de Saint Gery Olof Nordling Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Public archives of the mailing list can be found at: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gac-gnso-cg/ Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew Adobe Chat transcript: Marika Konings:Welcome to the GAC-GNSO Consultation Group meeting of 29 April 2014 Amr Elsadr:Hi. Dialling in now. Amr Elsadr::) Amr Elsadr:Thanks. Manal:was going to suggest the same .. Amr Elsadr:That's a good suggestion as far as I'm concerned. This time slot is normally open for me. Manal:for me the earlier the better too olof nordling:Volker is not a team lead - not yet at least.. Amr Elsadr:That's also good. (UTC 12:00). Amr Elsadr:Volker will still need to be able to attend the full group's meeting. Is he having scheduling trouble with that? Amr Elsadr:I'm on the P/P PDP WG too. Amr Elsadr:UTC 14:00 won't work for me either. Manal:+1 Amr .. Amr Elsadr:BTW..., I didn't get an email notice for today's meeting. Just wondering if others didn't either..., possibly expliaing the light attendance? Marika Konings:Amr, I received one yesterday and one on 24/4 from Terri. You didn't receive it? Amr Elsadr:No. Neither one. I looked up the email from the call from two weeks ago to dial in. I better double check, but I've been looking for it for a couple of days. Marika Konings:We'll look into this - did others receive the notices? Glen de Saint Gery:I will look into that Arm, that is why you did not revceive the notice Amr Elsadr:Thanks Glen. Amr Elsadr:No harm done as far as I'm concerned anyway. :) Glen de Saint Gery:sorry should have been Amr Amr Elsadr:;-) Amr Elsadr:Thanks Manal. That all sounds good. Amr Elsadr:Yes Marika (on the phases). I think the idea was to encourage movement away from the fourth stage closer toward the first three. Manal:fair eough .. Amr Elsadr:We might get no feedback anyway, but better to ask for feedback now that be blamed for not seeking it later. :) Amr Elsadr:that=than. :) Manal:Thanks Marika .. sounds perfect :) .. Manal:+1 Olof Amr Elsadr:This was a very useful discussion. Thanks everyone. Manal:Thanks Amr .. Manal:Thanks Jonathan .. Manal:Thanks everyone .. Amr Elsadr:Thanks everone. Bye.

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MP3 recording GAC / GNSO Consultation Group teleconference Tuesday 29 April 2014 1300 UTC
by Terri Agnew April 29, 2014

April 29, 2014

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording of the GAC / GNSO Consultation Group teleconference held on Tuesday 29 April 2014 at 1300 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-gac-20140429-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#apr The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Government Advisory Committee Manal Ismail - co-chair - Egypt GNSO Council Jonathan Robinson - co-chair - Registries Stakeholder Group Amr Elsadr - Non Commercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG) Apology: Suzanne Radell - USA Ana Neves - Portugal Brian Winterfeldt - Councillor Volker Greimann - Vice Chair ICANN Staff: Marika Konings Glen de Saint Gery Olof Nordling Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Public archives of the mailing list can be found at: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gac-gnso-cg/ Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew Adobe Chat transcript:

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Updates / Action items GAC-GNSO CG meeting
by Marika Konings April 29, 2014

April 29, 2014

Dear All, Please find below the action items / updates from today's GAC-GNSO Consultation Group meeting. Best regards, Marika Updates / Action items - 29/4 meeting: * Slot vacated by Mikey O'Connor still needs to be filled - call for volunteers has been circulated to GNSO Council list * Amr confirmed as co-lead for PDP work stream (but limited availability until May 15) * Manal will work with Heather to identify volunteer slot vacated by Carlos Gutierrez * Members of CG have until end of Friday (2 May) to come back on any items on the action/update list for comment / input - after that, it will be considered agreed * Schedule for team leads - proposal to have those at the same time / date on the alternating weeks (Tuesday's at 13.00 UTC - 30 minutes for each track) * Day-to-day track: confirm objectives & expecations on the mailing list and request input on whether there are any other options to be considered. Circulate first two options (A & B) in separate document and email for CG input / feedback, both on the descriptions as well as pros & cons. Consider re-circulation to GNSO and GAC for review / input - which should not delay the work of the CG.. * PDP-track: Marika to review document and break up into phases, possibly three to accomodate meetings until London (incl. numbering). Focus may be on initial phases (early on in the PDP) initially, as after GNSO Council adoption formal mechanisms are already in place (and it is no longer solely within GNSO's remit) * PDP-Track: update table headings (Proposals / Potential Issues) * Proposed similar format for London meetings as in Singapore (GAC-GNSO joint session to provide CG status update & opportunity to engage informally on Sunday evening)

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Proposed Agenda - GNSO / GAC Consultation Group
by Marika Konings April 29, 2014

April 29, 2014

Dear All, Apologies for the delay, but please find below the proposed agenda for today's GAC-GNSO Consultation Group. Best regards, Marika Proposed Agenda - GACGNSO Consultation Group on GAC Early Engagement in GNSO Policy Development Processes Tuesday 29 April at 13.00 UTC 1. Discuss / Adopt the proposed work plan (version attached), including: a. Schedule for Consultation Group meetings b. Schedule for Team Leads meetings 2. Discuss / Adopt a proposed way forward for Work Stream 1 Day to Day (version dated 18Feb): a. Discuss inter-sessionally and finalize 2 options (out of 6) on each call, in terms of: i. Confirming its description, how it achieves, how it works in practice, whether it requires funding and whether it's possible to implement as a pilot right away .. ii. Addressing the potential issues iii. Working its pros & cons iv. Identifying whether it's mutually exclusive with other options b. Share with GAC / GNSO 3. Discuss / Adopt a proposed way forward for Work Stream 2 PDP (text version dated 3Dec, to facilitate commenting): a. Divide issues into 4 clusters by PDP phase b. Finalize one cluster per call c. Share with GAC / GNSO 4. Map work streams deliverables on the work plan 5. AOB

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MP3 recording GAC / GNSO Consultation Group teleconference Tuesday 15 April 2014 1300 UTC
by Nathalie Peregrine April 15, 2014

April 15, 2014

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording of the GAC / GNSO Consultation Group teleconference held on Tuesday 15 April 2014 at 1300 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-gac-20140415-en.mp3 <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-gac-201404158-en.mp3> On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#apr The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Government Advisory Committee Manal Ismail co-chair - Egypt Ana Neves - Portugal GNSO Council Jonathan Robinson co-chair - Registries Stakeholder Group Amr Elsadr Non Commercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG) Apology: David Cake GNSO vice chair Suzanne Radel - USA ICANN Staff: Marika Konings Olof Nordling Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Public archives of the mailing list can be found at: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gac-gnso-cg/ Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie Adobe Chat transcript: Marika Konings:Welcome to the GAC-GNSO Consultation Group on Early Engagement of 15 April 2014 Ana Neves:Hi, Jonathan! Manal:Hi Jonathan, Ana, Marika, Nathalie & Olof :) .. Jonathan Robinson:Hi Manal. Welcome! Manal:ok .. Jonathan Robinson:All. Let's wait 3-5 mins and then get underway Olof Nordling:Hi all ! Manal:Hi Olof .. Nathalie Peregrine:Noted, thank you Ana Neves:can´t hear you, Manal... Nathalie Peregrine:Manal, iin order to improve your audio, would you like us to dial out to you? Manal:will try to higher the volume Ana .. Marika Konings:@Olof - that typing course definitely paid off ;-) Olof Nordling:I know;-) Missed that one myself... Amr Elsadr:Hi. Thanks Jonathan. Dialling in now. Amr Elsadr:Apologies about being late. Amr Elsadr:On the call now. Amr Elsadr:Sorry. What was the question? Nathalie Peregrine:Jonathan, your line is breaking up quite a lot Olof Nordling:@Jonathan - your line has a lot of jitter Nathalie Peregrine:We can dial out to you Jonathan Jonathan Robinson:back on audio now Manal:great back to you :) Nathalie Peregrine:Breaking up again Jonathan Nathalie Peregrine:We cannot hear you anymore Amr Elsadr:Still breaking up a lot Jonathan. Can't make out what you're saying. Amr Elsadr:You're back now. Manal:it's perfect now .. Amr Elsadr:@Jonathan: Your audio is pretty good now. Manal:yes it has Amr .. Manal:sounds good Amr .. Ana Neves:yes. the work from GNSO and GAC together Ana Neves:I know it's difficult but we should start a pilot as mentioned before otherwise we don't start anything that can be see and evaluated throughout this year. Ana Neves:something must start in London to be perhaps "evaluated" in LA? Amr Elsadr:@Ana: I think your suggestion is very sensible. Our work will more than likely be iterative. We'll have to evaluate how effective it is as it progresses, and possibly idenrify areas where improvements or changes in our plans are required. Ana Neves:yes, I agree. But when and how are you starting to discuss the identification of such areas? Ana Neves:not "you" but "we", sorry Manal:+1 Marika .. Ana Neves:yes, very good proposal, Marika. Manal:sure .. Amr Elsadr:I suggest that we move forward trying to solidify the two streams, and identify a timeframe in which we can evaluate progress. I don't feel comfortable specifiying that now. Maybe when in the process of finalizing the details of the two streams. Ana Neves:I agree with Amr but on the other hand time there's so much we could being do togeter that it is a pity that we don't start anything even if under a pilot Amr Elsadr:I think Marika said what I was trying to say..., just a lot more eloquently. :) Marika Konings::-) Amr Elsadr:I think the teams reporting on progress will work. At least with the next meeting until we identify other areas we need to work on. Amr Elsadr:@Manal: +1 on using the mailing list too. Manal:I'm fine .. Amr Elsadr:Considering the limited attendance, we need to ask for more feedback from the group via email. Manal:Thanks Jonathan and all .. Amr Elsadr:Thanks everyone. Have a great week. Ana Neves:Thanks to all! Bye

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For your review - action items from today's meeting
by Marika Konings April 15, 2014

April 15, 2014

Dear All, Please find below the action items / notes agreed to by those on the GAC-GNSO Consultation Group meeting today. For those of you that were not on the call, please share any comments / feedback you may have by 22 April at the latest. Following that the group will assume your non-objection to these items. The next meeting has been scheduled for Tuesday 29 April at 13.00 UTC. Best regards, Marika GAC-GNSO Consultation Group on Early Engagement - Action items - 15/4 meeting: * Proposal to capture action items/decisions from meeting and circulate these to the full group for input/feedback/ratification to ensure progress is made despite limited participation on the call Administrative & Practical Issues: * 4 meetings between now and London, including additional meeting on Tuesday 17 June to prepare for ICANN meeting in London * Fill slot vacated by Mikey & fill team lead slot with existing member of the group - Amr volunteered to take over team lead slot on PDP work stream together with Susanne * Proposal to not further open up membership at this stage, but leave it as an item open for consideration in the future, if need be * Manal will also reconfirm GAC membership * Board decision on GAC-GNSO travel funding request for GNSO liaison to the GAC is expected to be taken on 30 April Board meeting * Capture / define deliverables for London - likely focusing on the different alternatives between now and London, and possible present overall vision by London. Finalize two work streams and work out details on how to get to recommendations and present those in London, and consider public comment period / or timeframe to receive further input following London. * Marika & Olof to develop draft timeline for meetings between now and London, including suggested topics for discussion for each meeting for CG review * Workstream leads also to consider meeting in between meetings, as possible, to make progress on certain items * Consider experimenting with certain solutions / proposals, as appropriate * Consider documenting how each item in the day-to-day cooperation affects the overall process

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Agenda for Tues. Apr. 15th cc ..
by Manal Ismail April 14, 2014

April 14, 2014

Dear All .. Welcome back to our bi-weekly conference calls J .. Quickly discussing with Jonathan, we suggest the below agenda for tomorrow's call: 1. Administrative & Practical Issues a. Schedule: Between now & London b. Objectives: For London c. Consultation group additions / subtractions? d. Funding application? 2. Work Stream 1 - Day to Day a. Current issues and / or objectives? b. Volunteers to take forward? 3. Work Stream 2 - PDP a. Current issues and / or objectives? b. Volunteers to take forward? 4. AOB Attaching all relevant documents for your convenience .. Kind Regards --Manal

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an announcement from Mikey -- i'm retiring from ICANN
by Mike O'Connor April 7, 2014

April 7, 2014

dear all, just a quick note to let you know that i am retiring from ICANN. right now. how about that? it’s spring here at the farm and i’ve realized that it’s time for me to redirect my attention to things closer to home and heart. as you can see by the number of mailing lists this note is addressed to, i’ve spread myself too thin. somewhere along the line i burned myself out. i never was very good at seeing this “burnout" thing coming. oops... as to the “immediately” timeframe — well, i’m burned out. which means that the prospect of ICANN-related work just leaves me cold. so rather than drag myself (and you) through some half-baked transition period where i do an even worse job than i’ve been doing lately, i’m just making a clean break of it. it will turn out fine. you’ll see. as of this note i’m setting down all the trappings. GNSO Councillor, ISPCP support, the working groups, all the leadership-development and newcomer-orientation projects. i’m not throwing them down, just placing them gently there for somebody else to pick up and run with. this is the place where i’m supposed to write about how i’ll miss you all. but i’m not going to do that. through the miracle of this Internet thing, i plan to stay connected to you and maintain all those friendships that have developed over the years. i’m just stopping the work, not the relationships. maybe some day i’ll even dip my toe back into a working group or two. but not right away. right now that goes on the Too Hard pile. here’s a link to a pictorial tour of the farm. http://www.aprairiehaven.com/?page_id=23369 see that bench? that’s where i’ll be sitting, thinking of you. come visit. Marcie and i will show you around. onward, mikey PHONE: 651-647-6109, FAX: 866-280-2356, WEB: www.haven2.com, HANDLE: OConnorStP (ID for Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.)

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