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Future meeting dates
by Evan Leibovitch March 10, 2008

March 10, 2008

Hello all. As the last item on today's conference call, I asked whether anyone had problems with the practice of holding the meetings on the second Monday of each month. There were no objections on the call. If there are no further problems, I will work with staff to confirm calls for the next 12 months, which would be: April 14 May 12 June 9 July 14 Aug 11 Sep 8 Oct 20 (moved; Oct 13 is Thanksgiving Day in Canada and Columbus Day in the US) Nov 10 Dec 8 Jan 12 Feb 9 March 9 Is Everyone OK with this? - Evan

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Proposal of the ALAC chair on GNSO improvements
by Matthias Langenegger March 10, 2008

March 10, 2008

Dear all, Please find attached the draft document concerning the GNSO improvements. A quick reminder about upcoming Teleconferences: NARALO Teleconference: Today, 1900 UTC (https://st.icann.org/naralo/index.cgi?10_march_2008) ALAC Teleconference: Tomorrow, 1330 UTC ( https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?11_march_2008) Best regards, Matthias Langenegger At-Large Coordination Officer Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: matthias.langenegger(a)icann.org Main Tel: +41 (79) 644 65 35 Fax: +41 (22) 594 85 44 Skype ID: matthiaslangenegger

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Reminder -- NARALO conference call Monday
by Evan Leibovitch March 10, 2008

March 10, 2008

Hello all, This is a reminder of the NARALO monthly conference call, scheduled for 3pm Eastern / noon Pacific Tomorrow April 10 The agenda I have so far (most of these topics have had relevant associated discussion threads on this and/or the broader ALAC list): 1) NARALO Endorsement (and submission to ALAC for endorsement) of Danny Younger's "Letter to the ICANN Board", as sent to this mailing list March 1 2) Status update on the At-Large Summit and NARALO participation in it 3) Outreach initiatives (or rather, lack thereof so far) 4) geoTLDs (see discussion thread on .nyc) 5) Further action on domain tasting / front-running / AGP 6) ALAC Review 7) Setting dates for future meetings If there are any proposed additions or changes please tell Darlene or me ASAP. - Evan

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FW: NA-Discuss Digest, Vol 17, Issue 7
by Thompson, Darlene March 6, 2008

March 6, 2008

Hi all, Please see Seth's support for Danny's letter to ICANN below. D Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca -----Original Message----- From: Seth M. Reiss [mailto:seth.reiss@lex-ip.com] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 11:24 AM To: Thompson, Darlene Subject: FW: NA-Discuss Digest, Vol 17, Issue 7 Darlene Assuming my comment doesn't make it on the list because my apparent computer illiteracy when it comes to list serves, could you post if for me? Mahalo Seth -----Original Message----- From: Seth M. Reiss [mailto:seth.reiss@lex-ip.com] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 6:22 AM To: 'na-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-list.icann.org' Subject: FW: NA-Discuss Digest, Vol 17, Issue 7 Good Danny. Count me in as well. -----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of na-discuss-request(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 7:01 AM To: na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: NA-Discuss Digest, Vol 17, Issue 7 - Further support. Send NA-Discuss mailing list submissions to na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists .ica nn.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to na-discuss-request(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org You can reach the person managing the list at na-discuss-owner(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NA-Discuss digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Letter to the ICANN Board (Jean Armour Polly) 2. Re: Letter to the ICANN Board (Thompson, Darlene) 3. Re: Letter to the ICANN Board (John Levine) 4. Re: Letter to the ICANN Board (Evan Leibovitch) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 08:37:03 -0500 From: Jean Armour Polly <mom(a)netmom.com> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Letter to the ICANN Board To: Danny Younger <dannyyounger(a)yahoo.com> Cc: NA Discuss <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Message-ID: <p06240843c3f4526437d1(a)[192.168.1.5]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" I think it is an excellent letter; I also support it. -- Jean Armour Polly http://www.netmom.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 09:03:15 -0500 From: "Thompson, Darlene" <DThompson(a)GOV.NU.CA> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Letter to the ICANN Board To: "Danny Younger" <dannyyounger(a)yahoo.com>, "NA Discuss" <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Message-ID: <A45C80D623342847B5FBC1891E17B6BC0207E015(a)iqaluitmx01.nunavut.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I think that this letter is an excellent way for the NARALO to be pro-active on an issue rather than merely re-active. D Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca -----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Danny Younger Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 12:22 PM To: NA Discuss Subject: [NA-Discuss] Letter to the ICANN Board Dear members of the NARALO: I have drafted a letter to the Board for discussion at our upcoming teleconference. I would appreciate any initial feedback to refine this letter as required. Dear ICANN board directors: While we are aware that you have been monitoring the public outrage in response to registrar activities that have been variously described as "front-running" and/or "domain reservation" or "cart-hold" or "cart-reserve" activities, we are of the view that the obligation to safeguard the operational stability of Registrar Services now requires the immediate temporary establishment of a consensus policy curtailing such practices to be taken in accordance with the board's authority under the provisions set out in section 4.3.4 of the Registrar Accreditation Agreement, that states: "A specification or policy established by the ICANN Board of Directors on a temporary basis, without a prior recommendation by the council of an ICANN Supporting Organization, shall also be considered to be a Consensus Policy if adopted by the ICANN Board of Directors by a vote of at least two-thirds of its members, so long as the Board reasonably determines that immediate temporary establishment of a specification or policy on the subject is necessary to maintain the operational stability of Registrar Services, Registry Services, the DNS, or the Internet, and that the proposed specification or policy is as narrowly tailored as feasible to achieve those objectives." Please be advised that we have reached this conclusion based in part upon the following considerations: 1. The use of "cart-hold" or "cart-reserve" systems has been actively under discussion within the registrars constituency since early October 2007 when three different registrars first advanced the concept within the context of a straw poll on the impact to registrants were the AGP to be eliminated in its entirety (footnote 1) -- see http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/registrars/msg05123.html http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/registrars/msg05130.html http://gnso.icann.org/mailing- lists/archives/registrars/msg05131.html http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/registrars/msg05380.html http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/registrars/msg05626.html 2. The use of this domain name reservation practice next came to be adopted by a large-volume registrar (Network Solutions) on or about 8 January 2008, and the practice was immediately condemned by the community at large (with extensive coverage in the Tech media, the general press, in blogs world wide, on domain name forums, and on community discussion lists). 3. The actions of Network Solutions has now spawned a similar project on the part of another large-volume registrar (register.com) and we have no reason to believe that other large-volume registrars will refrain from rapidly setting up comparable efforts. (footnote -- see http://help.register.com/cgi-bin/register_help.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.p hp?p_faqid=2796&p_created=1185549188&p_sid=*Nq5PxZi&p_accessibility=0&p_ lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfcm93X2NudD01NDImcF 9wcm9kcz0mcF9jYXRzPSZwX3B2PSZwX2N2PSZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPWFuc3dlcnMuc2Vhcm NoX25sJnBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=&p_topview=1 ) While we recognize that we are unable to point to an ICANN-approved definition of "operational stability of Registrar Services" (as no such definition exists within either current ICANN contracts or supporting materials), we take guidance from the ICANN Policy Document ICP-3 which posits that activities that do not interfere with the operation of the DNS are, generally speaking, those that operate within community-established norms. Such norms tend to respect a set of long-established principles such as the principle of least astonishment. When registrants currently search for a domain name at these registrars using normative search practices, they are clearly astonished by that which results from their efforts: the inability to readily register the domain name of their choice with a more competitive registrar and/or the domain name that they have selected appearing in the WHOIS with the name of the registrar as the registrant of record (footnote -- see http://help.register.com/cgi-bin/register_help.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.p hp?p_faqid=2796&p_created=1185549188&p_sid=*Nq5PxZi&p_accessibility=0&p_ lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfcm93X2NudD01NDImcF 9wcm9kcz0mcF9jYXRzPSZwX3B2PSZwX2N2PSZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPWFuc3dlcnMuc2Vhcm NoX25sJnBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=&p_topview=1 ). The community's trust in ICANN's ability to manage the Domain Name System is at stake. It is inappropriate for such registrar activities to proceed unabated in a policy vaccuum. Accordingly we call upon the ICANN board to establish a temporary narrowly-tailored policy as a stopgap until such time as the relevant policy-recommending ICANN Supporting Organizations can provide a comprehensive consensus policy solution. ________________________________________________________________________ ____________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists .icann.org Visit the NA-RALO Wiki at https://st.icann.org/naralo/ ------ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:34:15 -0500 (EST) From: John Levine <johnl(a)iecc.com> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Letter to the ICANN Board To: Jean Armour Polly <mom(a)netmom.com> Cc: NA Discuss <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.1.00.0803051033460.63282(a)simone.iecc.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > I think it is an excellent letter; I also support it. I agree with everything in it, but I do think that a question about RAA enforcement or the egregiously lack thereof would be useful. Regards, John Levine, johnl(a)iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, ex-Mayor "More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:02:17 -0500 From: Evan Leibovitch <evan(a)telly.org> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Letter to the ICANN Board To: NA Discuss <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Message-ID: <47CEC409.9060309(a)telly.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hello all, So far I have not heard from anyone speaking against the contents of this letter. At next week's meeting we will hold a vote on endorsement of the letter. It will make our case stronger if the endorsement is unanimous -- so if you have any concerns or comments, please state them before or at the conference call. If the motion for NARALO to endorse the letter passes -- unanimous or not -- I will forward it to ALAC for further endorsement. It would be prefereable to have all of ALAC endorse this, but even if not I will request that our letter be conveyed to the Board by its ALAC representative. I am especially appreciative to Danny for his initiation of this action. As has been already said, our movement on this perhaps suggests that we (if not all of ALAC, at least the NA region) wants to be proactive on issues and not simply respond to the reactive agenda that ICANN would set for us. - Evan ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists .ica nn.org End of NA-Discuss Digest, Vol 17, Issue 7 *****************************************

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FW: [cracin-discussion] ISTAS 08 -- Call for Participation -- June 26 - 28, 2008
by Thompson, Darlene March 6, 2008

March 6, 2008

Will any NA ALSs be attending the conference below? Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca ________________________________ From: Bill McIver [mailto:Bill.McIver@nrc-cnrc.gc.ca] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 10:47 AM To: cracin-canada(a)vancouvercommunity.net Subject: [cracin-discussion] ISTAS 08 -- Call for Participation -- June 26 - 28, 2008 ISTAS is the annual symposium of the IEEE Society on Social Implications of Technology (link) <http://www.ieeessit.org> . The theme this year is Citizens, Groups, Communities and Information and Communication Technologies. The ISTAS 08 online registration is site is now open. Please click here <https://icm3.ieee.org/eventmanager/onlineregistration.asp?eventcode=r9c > to register for the symposium. Information and communication technologies (ICT) have social, cultural, political and economic implications. Technological advancement, a key principle of IEEE and its member organizations, can have different meanings in different contexts. ISTAS 08 will showcase and generate discussion about the design and development of ICT and how they connect citizens, groups and communities, as well as the challenges and wider implications of connecting with ICT. ISTAS 08 will also address the broader topic of ethics in science and engineering. ISTAS 08 will provide opportunities for exchange between people who may not otherwise have the opportunity to meet, including researchers and students in engineering, computer science, social sciences, arts and humanities, community-based researchers, policy makers and technology user communities. The conference organizers and hosts at the National Research Council invite you to join us at ISTAS 08 June 26 - 28, 2008 for discussion, debate and reflection. We look forward to welcoming you in Fredericton. Please visit the ISTAS 08 web site for more information (link <http://istas08.ca/index.php/Main_Page> ). Sincerely, WJM -- William McIver, Jr, PhD (Bill) Senior Research Officer, People-Centred Technologies National Research Council Canada -- Institute for Information Technology Organizing Chair ISTAS 08 / http://istas08.ca | E-mail: Bill.McIver(a)nrc-cnrc.gc.ca

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Letter to the ICANN Board
by Danny Younger March 5, 2008

March 5, 2008

Dear members of the NARALO: I have drafted a letter to the Board for discussion at our upcoming teleconference. I would appreciate any initial feedback to refine this letter as required. Dear ICANN board directors: While we are aware that you have been monitoring the public outrage in response to registrar activities that have been variously described as "front-running" and/or "domain reservation" or "cart-hold" or "cart-reserve" activities, we are of the view that the obligation to safeguard the operational stability of Registrar Services now requires the immediate temporary establishment of a consensus policy curtailing such practices to be taken in accordance with the board's authority under the provisions set out in section 4.3.4 of the Registrar Accreditation Agreement, that states: "A specification or policy established by the ICANN Board of Directors on a temporary basis, without a prior recommendation by the council of an ICANN Supporting Organization, shall also be considered to be a Consensus Policy if adopted by the ICANN Board of Directors by a vote of at least two-thirds of its members, so long as the Board reasonably determines that immediate temporary establishment of a specification or policy on the subject is necessary to maintain the operational stability of Registrar Services, Registry Services, the DNS, or the Internet, and that the proposed specification or policy is as narrowly tailored as feasible to achieve those objectives." Please be advised that we have reached this conclusion based in part upon the following considerations: 1. The use of "cart-hold" or "cart-reserve" systems has been actively under discussion within the registrars constituency since early October 2007 when three different registrars first advanced the concept within the context of a straw poll on the impact to registrants were the AGP to be eliminated in its entirety (footnote 1) -- see http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/registrars/msg05123.html http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/registrars/msg05130.html http://gnso.icann.org/mailing- lists/archives/registrars/msg05131.html http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/registrars/msg05380.html http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/registrars/msg05626.html 2. The use of this domain name reservation practice next came to be adopted by a large-volume registrar (Network Solutions) on or about 8 January 2008, and the practice was immediately condemned by the community at large (with extensive coverage in the Tech media, the general press, in blogs world wide, on domain name forums, and on community discussion lists). 3. The actions of Network Solutions has now spawned a similar project on the part of another large-volume registrar (register.com) and we have no reason to believe that other large-volume registrars will refrain from rapidly setting up comparable efforts. (footnote -- see http://help.register.com/cgi-bin/register_help.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?… ) While we recognize that we are unable to point to an ICANN-approved definition of "operational stability of Registrar Services" (as no such definition exists within either current ICANN contracts or supporting materials), we take guidance from the ICANN Policy Document ICP-3 which posits that activities that do not interfere with the operation of the DNS are, generally speaking, those that operate within community-established norms. Such norms tend to respect a set of long-established principles such as the principle of least astonishment. When registrants currently search for a domain name at these registrars using normative search practices, they are clearly astonished by that which results from their efforts: the inability to readily register the domain name of their choice with a more competitive registrar and/or the domain name that they have selected appearing in the WHOIS with the name of the registrar as the registrant of record (footnote -- see http://help.register.com/cgi-bin/register_help.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?… ). The community's trust in ICANN's ability to manage the Domain Name System is at stake. It is inappropriate for such registrar activities to proceed unabated in a policy vaccuum. Accordingly we call upon the ICANN board to establish a temporary narrowly-tailored policy as a stopgap until such time as the relevant policy-recommending ICANN Supporting Organizations can provide a comprehensive consensus policy solution. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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Outreach?
by Michael Maranda March 3, 2008

March 3, 2008

Within NARALO context, there was a fair amount of discussion last year regarding potential for continued outreach, in particular public education and outreach at existing events. Specific venues were mentioned, among them NTEN. The NTEN conference is coming up shortly: March 19-21, in New Orleans. Are any of the ALSs at all engaged in NTEN constituency? Are there other events or constituency groups we can be reaching out to? (at live events) Granted, NTEN is not far off.... but if anyone was already going I am sure accommodation could be made (with some legwork) Other events in the near term where NARALO attendance could have value: David Isenberg's annual gathering... Freedom2Connect (F2C). Will anyone within NARALO be attending that? Other ideas? (This is all premised on the idea that At Large outreach is a good thing)

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Help create the .nyc Internet space for New York and New Yorkers
by Thomas Lowenhaupt March 3, 2008

March 3, 2008

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NARLO Teleconference on 10 March
by Matthias Langenegger March 3, 2008

March 3, 2008

Dear all, We have set up a teleconference for the NARALO on 10 March 2008 at 19:00 UTC. Please find the meeting page under https://st.icann.org/naralo/index.cgi?10_march_2008. Note that dialouts are available upon request at the URL in the meeting page at the time of the meeting. Regards, Matthias Langenegger At-Large Coordination Officer Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: matthias.langenegger(a)icann.org Main Tel: +41 (79) 644 65 35 Fax: +41 (22) 594 85 44 Skype ID: matthiaslangenegger

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GNSO Improvements Proposals Open for Public Comment
by Nick Ashton-Hart Feb. 29, 2008

Feb. 29, 2008

Please note that the GNSO Improvements Report 2008 is open for public comments from 25 February 2008 to 25 March 2008 http://www.icann.org/public_comment/#gnso-improvements-report-2008 GNSO Improvements Report 2008 Explanation: On February 15, 2008, ICANN's Board acknowledged receipt of the "GNSO Improvements Report" and indicated that it would like to receive final public comments on the Report to enable it to consider and implement the Report's recommendations as soon as possible. The Board has directed ICANN staff to open a public comment forum on the Report for 30 days, draft a detailed implementation plan in consultation with the GNSO, begin implementation of the non-contentious recommendations, and return to the Board and community for further consideration of the implementation plan. A copy of the Board's resolution regarding this matter can be found here. http://www.icann.org/minutes/resolutions-15feb08.htm A COUPLE OF POINTS TO CONSIDER FOR AT-LARGE MEMBERS: * Do you think that the At-Large community should be a part of the GNSO as a constituency in its own right? You can read more about this in the proposals on page 41. * One of the recommendations is that greater coordination between the GNSO and other parts of ICANN should be implemented - this includes At-Large - read more about it on pages 47 - 48 HOW TO GET THE REPORT: You can read the full report here [PDF, 197K] http://www.icann.org/topics/gnso-improvements/gnso-improvements-report-03feb 08.pdf and see a web page with more information here. http://www.icann.org/topics/gnso-improvements/ The ICANN Board Governance Committee's "GNSO Review Working Group" http://www.icann.org/topics/gnso-improvements/ developed the Report's http://www.icann.org/topics/gnso-improvements/gnso-improvements-report-03feb 08.pdf set of recommendations to improve the effectiveness of the GNSO, including its policy activities, structure, operations and communications. The Report reflects the Working Group's examination of many aspects of the GNSO's functioning, including the use of working groups and the overall policy development process (PDP), and the structure of the GNSO Council and its constituencies. The Board Governance Committee determined that the GNSO Improvements working group had fulfilled its charter and forwarded the report to the Board for consideration." Is it clear to you what this comment period covers? Do you have all the information you need to respond? The staff member responsible is Denise Michel - if you have questions, she can be reached at denise.michel(a)icann.org. Please submit comments to: gnso-improvements-report-2008(a)icann.org Archives: http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-improvements-report-2008/ Please take the time to comment. Thank you. Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat - ICANN gnso.secretariat[at]gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director for At-Large Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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