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RDS/WHOIS2-RT Plenary materials for Review
by Karen Mulberry Aug. 3, 2017

Aug. 3, 2017

Dear Review Team Members, In anticipation of you call #4<https://community.icann.org/display/WHO/Meeting+%234+-+3+August>, scheduled for Thursday, 3 August – 11:00 UTC (time converter<https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CCT+Review+Team+S…>), please find below a draft agenda: 1. Welcome and Updates to SOIs 2. Finalize Role of Observers 3. Review of Draft Terms of Reference 4. Overview of available WHOIS 1 Implementation Reports 5. Discuss RDS-WHOIS2-RT background and comments on Scope 6. A.O.B. Attached to this email you will find: * Draft Terms of Reference that were prepared for your consideration; * A copy of WHOIS1 Implementation Reports; * A copy of RDS-WHOIS2-RT comments on scope (through 19 July); We invite you to review these materials in preparation for the call. Sincerrely, Karen Mulberry Director, Multistakeholder Strategy and Strategic Initiatives (MSSI) ICANN 12025 Waterfront Dr., Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094 Phone: +1 424 353 9745

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Reminder - Call today @ 11:00 UTC
by Alice Jansen Aug. 3, 2017

Aug. 3, 2017

Dear Review Team Members, This is to kindly remind you that you have a call today at 11:00 UTC. Here is a link to a time converter: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=RDS%2FWHOIS2+Revi… The agenda is as follows: 1. Welcome and Updates to SOIs 2. Finalize Role of Observers 3. Review of Draft Terms of Reference 4. Overview of available WHOIS 1 Implementation Reports 5. Discuss RDS-WHOIS2-RT background and comments on Scope 6. A.O.B. The list of materials is attached to this email. Speak to you soon, Best regards Alice

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Slides - call #4
by Alice Jansen Aug. 2, 2017

Aug. 2, 2017

Dear Review Team Members, Please find attached a copy of the slides that will be used on your call #4. Details are available below. Thanks, Best regards Alice From: <rds-whois2-rt-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Karen Mulberry <karen.mulberry(a)icann.org> Date: Wednesday 2 August 2017 at 04:52 To: RDS WHOIS2-RT List <rds-whois2-rt(a)icann.org> Subject: [RDS-WHOIS2-RT] RDS/WHOIS2-RT Plenary materials for Review Dear Review Team Members, In anticipation of you call #4[community.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_di…>, scheduled for Thursday, 3 August – 11:00 UTC (time converter[timeanddate.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.timeanddate.com_wo…>), please find below a draft agenda: 1. Welcome and Updates to SOIs 2. Finalize Role of Observers 3. Review of Draft Terms of Reference 4. Overview of available WHOIS 1 Implementation Reports 5. Discuss RDS-WHOIS2-RT background and comments on Scope 6. A.O.B. Attached to this email you will find: * Draft Terms of Reference that were prepared for your consideration; * A copy of WHOIS1 Implementation Reports; * A copy of RDS-WHOIS2-RT comments on scope (through 19 July); We invite you to review these materials in preparation for the call. Sincerrely, Karen Mulberry Director, Multistakeholder Strategy and Strategic Initiatives (MSSI) ICANN 12025 Waterfront Dr., Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094 Phone: +1 424 353 9745

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WHOIS1 Implementation Reports
by Karen Mulberry Aug. 1, 2017

Aug. 1, 2017

Dear RDS/WHOIS2-RT members, For your consideration, attached are two documents that provide details on the WHOIS1 implementation, including a summary of ICANNs activities to support each recommendation as well as the full executive summary for each that shows more detail regarding implementation of each recommendation. Sincerely, Karen Mulberry Director, Multistakeholder Strategy and Strategic Initiatives (MSSI) ICANN 12025 Waterfront Dr., Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094 Phone: +1 424 353 9745

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This week's meeting
by Alan Greenberg Aug. 1, 2017

Aug. 1, 2017

The agenda for this week's meeting will be out shortly (or perhaps already distributed). One of the main topics till be the start of the discussion on the scope of the review, and particularly what do we include in addition to a review of the implementation of the first WHOIS Review Recommendations (which is a mandatory requirement). To aid in the discussion, everyone on the team should be familiar with the first RT's Recommendations, because these areas are implicitly part of our scope. You can find these Recommendations in two places. Both are pointed to in section 4 of the Background Materials section our our wiki - https://community.icann.org/display/WHO/Background+Materials. - WHOIS Review Team Final Report (2012), page 81-92. This section also includes the Findings giving the summary rationale for why the Recommendation was made. - The Executive Summary of the Implementation Report. Lastly, if anyone will not be able to attend, PLEASE let staff know (So far, I believe that only Dmitry has sent his apologies). Alan

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RDS/WHOIS2-RT Comments on Scope from the email list
by Karen Mulberry July 24, 2017

July 24, 2017

As noted on today’s Plenary call attached are the comments made by RT members about scope on-list that Lisa prepared. The comments are listed in the order made, with attribution. They are also organized into general comments about scope and comments about specific points raised in the GNSO proposal. Karen Mulberry Director, Multistakeholder Strategy and Strategic Initiatives (MSSI) ICANN 12025 Waterfront Dr., Suite 300 Los Angeles, CA 90094 Phone: +1 424 353 9745

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FW: [RDS-WHOIS2-Staff] FW: RDS-WHOIS2 Review Team Plenary Call #3 20 July 2017 - 11:00 UTC
by Karen Mulberry July 20, 2017

July 20, 2017

Dear Review Team Members, In anticipation of today’s plenary call, please find attached the presentation slides that will be projected in the Adobe Room. Kind regards, Jean-Baptiste From: <rds-whois2-staff-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Jean-Baptiste Deroulez <jean-baptiste.deroulez(a)icann.org> Date: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 at 10:36 PM To: RDS Staff Review List <rds-whois2-staff(a)icann.org> Subject: [RDS-WHOIS2-Staff] RDS-WHOIS2 Review Team Plenary Call #3 20 July 2017 - 11:00 UTC Dear Review Team Members, In preparation for your call #03[community.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_di…>, scheduled for Thursday, 20 July – 11:00-12:00 UTC, please find below a suggested agenda: 1. Welcome, roll-call, SoI 2. Leadership update (RDS-WHOIS2 Interim Leaders) 3. Fact Sheet (Charla Shambley, Xavier Calvez) 4. Schedule of plenary calls (weekly vs. bi-weekly) (RDS-WHOIS2 Interim Leaders) 5. Terms of Reference: definition (Lisa Phifer) 6. Discussion on “RDS Review - Guidance for Determining Scope of Review (February 2017)” (available at https://go.icann.org/2vDiKcQ[go.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__go.icann.org_2vDiKcQ&d…> and attached) (Karen Mulberry) 7. FtoF#1 - travel logistics (Karen Mulberry) 8. A.O.B. Slides will be shared tomorrow before the plenary call. You should all have received dial-in details to join this call. If not, please contact us off list at rds-whois2-staff(a)icann.org<mailto:rds-whois2-staff@icann.org> and we will make sure to send you a copy. Please feel free to join 20 minutes early to confirm your Adobe Connect and audio connections, if you wish. We would also like to remind you with some key links for your information: * This mailing-list is being publicly archived at: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rds-whois2-rt/ * https://community.icann.org/display/WHO/RDS-WHOIS2+Review[community.icann.o…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_di…> is the URL to your work space, which we have started populating with information. It will be the main repository for your documents and activities. We would like to call your attention to the Background Materials page where we have started compiling documents we would encourage you to read: https://community.icann.org/display/WHO/Background+Materials[community.ican…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_di…> As always, feel free to contact us should you have any questions or concerns. Kind regards, Jean-Baptiste Deroulez

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RDS-WHOIS2 Review Team Plenary Call #3 20 July 2017 - 11:00 UTC
by Karen Mulberry July 19, 2017

July 19, 2017

Dear Review Team Members, In preparation for your call #03[community.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_di…>, scheduled for Thursday, 20 July – 11:00-12:00 UTC, please find below a suggested agenda: 1. Welcome, roll-call, SoI 2. Leadership update (RDS-WHOIS2 Interim Leaders) 3. Fact Sheet (Charla Shambley, Xavier Calvez) 4. Schedule of plenary calls (weekly vs. bi-weekly) (RDS-WHOIS2 Interim Leaders) 5. Terms of Reference: definition (Lisa Phifer) 6. Discussion on “RDS Review - Guidance for Determining Scope of Review (February 2017)” (available at https://go.icann.org/2vDiKcQ[go.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__go.icann.org_2vDiKcQ&d…> and attached) (Karen Mulberry) 7. FtoF#1 - travel logistics (Karen Mulberry) 8. A.O.B. Slides will be shared tomorrow before the plenary call. You should all have received dial-in details to join this call. If not, please contact us off list at rds-whois2-staff(a)icann.org<mailto:rds-whois2-staff@icann.org> and we will make sure to send you a copy. Please feel free to join 20 minutes early to confirm your Adobe Connect and audio connections, if you wish. We would also like to remind you with some key links for your information: * This mailing-list is being publicly archived at: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rds-whois2-rt/ * https://community.icann.org/display/WHO/RDS-WHOIS2+Review[community.icann.o…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_di…> is the URL to your work space, which we have started populating with information. It will be the main repository for your documents and activities. We would like to call your attention to the Background Materials page where we have started compiling documents we would encourage you to read: https://community.icann.org/display/WHO/Background+Materials[community.ican…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_di…> As always, feel free to contact us should you have any questions or concerns. Kind regards, Jean-Baptiste Deroulez

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RDS-WHOIS2 Review Team Plenary Call #2 13 July 2017 - ACTION ITEMS
by Jean-Baptiste Deroulez July 17, 2017

July 17, 2017

Dear RDS-WHOIS2-RT members, Following today’s plenary call #02<https://community.icann.org/display/WHO/Meeting+%25232+-+13+July>, please find below the identified action items<https://community.icann.org/display/WHO/Plenary+Action+Items>: * RT agreed to interim leadership structure with Alan, Cathrin, and Susan to liaise together to determine the structure of the interim leadership. * RT discussed its Plenary call schedule and team member participation over July and August due to the summer holidays. It was determined to poll the RT members on their availability for upcoming plenary calls to decide if the schedule should be changed to every other week and or extended to 90 mins. A Doodle poll has been created to capture availability so a decision can be reached in the next coming weeks. Any modifications to the meeting schedule would be in place until the first FtoF meeting in October. See below. * RT confirmed its first Face-to-Face: October 2-3 2017. RT members will be contacted by ICANN Constituency Travel to make their arrangements and other meeting details to be sent out to Review Team by Staff Support. * RT discussed holding a formal meeting at ICANN60 and determined that an informal meeting of those who will be attending the ICANN might be a better option depending on the number of RT members who are already attending the ICANN meeting. A Doodle poll has been created to identify who on the RT will be in Abu Dhabi. See below. * Staff to circulate the ToR template, once finalized, with the review team. Therefore, you are kindly invited to confirm your availability for the upcoming plenary calls via this doodle poll: https://doodle.com/poll/s7578gdsfwc24ik3, so as your presence at ICANN60 via this doodle poll: http://doodle.com/poll/x4ufnf7xpv486a84. As requested in the chat today, please find below the links to background materials requested during Tuesday’s informal gathering of Review Team members are given below. 1. WHOIS Review Implementation Reports[community.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_di…>, including the most recent - Executive Summary of Implementation Report[community.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_do…> - Detailed Implementation Report[community.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_do…> 2. Final Report from the Expert Working Group on Internationalized Registration Data (IRD)[whois.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__whois.icann.org_sites_d…> (2015) and ICANN BoardApproval and Next Steps for the IRD Final Report[icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resource…> 3. RDS/WHOIS Accuracy Reporting System (ARS) Project[whois.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__whois.icann.org_en_who…> website, including - ARS Phase 2[whois.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__whois.icann.org_en_who…> Reporting System Overview - The most recent WHOIS ARS Phase 2 Cycle 4 Report (June 2017)[whois.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__whois.icann.org_sites_…> - WHOIS ARS Phase 2 Cycle 3 Report Webinar Presentation[whois.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__whois.icann.org_en_fil…> 4. As referenced by the ICANN Bylaws, Section 4.6, on RDS Review[icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_en_syste…>, the latest OECD Guidelines on the Protection of Privacy and Transborder Flows of Personal Data[oecd.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.oecd.org_sti_iecon…> (2013) Links to these and other key documents can be found on your wiki’s Background Materials page: https://community.icann.org/display/WHO/Background+Materials[community.ican…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_di…>, including general background on WHOIS/RDS and a glossary of terms; current WHOIS/RDS policies, contractual requirements, advisories, compliance materials, and related procedures; annual reports on WHOIS improvements and associated materials (such as data generated by the Accuracy Reporting System); and quarterly WHOIS Review Implementation reports. To make it easy for you to find background materials, this wiki page will be maintained with links to additional materials that the Review Team may request during this review. We look forward to another productive plenary call with you, Kind regards, Jean-Baptiste

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Re: [RDS-WHOIS2-RT] NextGen Registration Data Distribution Service
by Alan Greenberg July 12, 2017

July 12, 2017

I am less sure than Carlton that we MUST discuss this. I have no problem with discussing whether the current WHOIS protocol is fit for purpose, but it better be a pretty short discussion! If anyone has a good argument why it IS fit for purpose, it should be shared pretty quickly. The inability of a 7-bit protocol to handle today's IDN world, and the inability to handle any level of authorization/authentication/gating (which is generally understood to be necessary to allow critical information to be collected but not universally displayed in support of privacy legislation) makes the answer pretty clear. And as the charter Carlton points to indicates, this has been clear for quite some time. This is a REVIEW team. I believe it is well beyond our scope to debate whether the current protocol can be modified to meet new needs, to specify or design a replacement or to review possible replacements. And I have little interest in debating whether any new protocol should be called WHOIS (pretending it is the same), WHOIS-Mark-2, RDAP, WEIRDS, WIERDS or Betelgeuse. Alan At 05/07/2017 10:08 AM, Carlton Samuels wrote: >Dear All: >I believe this review will have to answer the question as to whether >the current WHOIS protocol is fit to purpose in a evolved DNS >environment in one or other job stream. Some may recall that the >RDAP is being proposed as a fit and proper replacement. > >You may wish for background to examine the IETF charters for Web >Extensible Internet Registration Data Service (WEIRDS) from whence came RDAP. > ><https://tools.ietf.org/wg/weirds/charters>https://tools.ietf.org/wg/weirds/charters > >Best, >-Carlton > >============================== >Carlton A Samuels >Mobile: 876-818-1799 >Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround >============================= >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Disposition: inline >X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: > >1;DM5PR03MB2714;27:B4FAKC1/EM3XOvHOPyoJ57PmCR+VxY4KD2MBdt6vWtlFgLD4tOOlcsV3foNFR93KAoIM9yzc2f7ovNf8Z27tswcz7fr1TllQNyArpqDRUCTG3fAIGxT2DaVNoDvfJnqPlCyckJle2pLGGdCKNOvr+w== >X-Microsoft-Antispam-Mailbox-Delivery: > >ex:0;auth:0;dest:I;ENG:(400001000128)(400125000095)(20160514016)(520000050)(520002050)(750028)(400001001223)(400125100095)(61617095)(400001002128)(400125200095); > >_______________________________________________ >RDS-WHOIS2-RT mailing list >RDS-WHOIS2-RT(a)icann.org >https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rds-whois2-rt

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