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SSR2 plenary agenda | 23 September 2020 @ 14:00 UTC
by Jennifer Bryce Sept. 22, 2020

Sept. 22, 2020

Dear SSR2 RT members, Below is the agenda for the next SSR2 plenary call, scheduled for Wednesday 23 September @ 14:00 - 15:00 UTC. 1. Welcome, roll call, SOI updates 2. Team members to complete the plenary call Doodle here: https://doodle.com/poll/dpbnhdv5wenkahwd 3. Review subteam status spreadsheet<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cOZ1lPXqHfuZNt68zvB5xRB63eBoL3gonDb…> – identify volunteers for subgroups that need to progress work 4. Recommendation 21 – response to public comments, doc here<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FaGlYsLVSob_CflYkKBag4L27vMUNA0C0kVNtAI…> (Eric) 5. Recommendation 29 – doc here<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WTnaEk2pW0V85FRXk1uUN4O-co7DcDIXb_9_-1M…> (Kerry-Ann) 6. Abuse subteam status update 7. Revisit Doodle poll and finalize a plenary call slot 8. AOB 9. Confirm action items, decisions reached Additional reference documents: * Response to public comments spreadsheet here [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DQpPA0aL…> * SSR2 final report draft here<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1myG9dtYYiL8lFd3ZOPXNUwKfr1yuAsNrwzod-J8…> Please let me or Brenda know in advance whether any other documents need to be projected. Best, Jennifer -- Jennifer Bryce Associate Project Manager, Review Support and Accountability Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Skype: jennifer.bryce.icann Email: jennifer.bryce(a)icann.org

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Re: [Ssr2-review] *NEW* ACTION REQUEST: SSR2 Doodle for possible plenary time change
by Brenda Brewer Sept. 21, 2020

Sept. 21, 2020

Hello SSR2 Review Team! Kindly look at the latest updated doodle offering two final options. https://doodle.com/poll/dpbnhdv5wenkahwd<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/doodle.com/poll/dpbnhdv5wenkahwd__;!!PtG…> * If your name has “?” please fill in by selecting the “edit pencil” next to your name. * If you have not yet filled in the poll, please do so. * Many thanks to those that have completed the doodle already. The results will be discussed on Wednesday’s plenary call. Thank you, Brenda From: Brenda Brewer <brenda.brewer(a)icann.org> Date: Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 1:37 PM To: SSR2 RT <ssr2-review(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: ACTION REQUEST: SSR2 Doodle for possible plenary time change Hi all, A kind reminder to fill out the doodle if you have not done so already. Many thanks to those that have! https://doodle.com/poll/dpbnhdv5wenkahwd<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/doodle.com/poll/dpbnhdv5wenkahwd__;!!PtG…> Best, Brenda From: Ssr2-review <ssr2-review-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Brenda Brewer <brenda.brewer(a)icann.org> Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 3:28 PM To: SSR2 RT <ssr2-review(a)icann.org> Subject: [Ssr2-review] ACTION REQUEST: SSR2 Doodle for possible plenary time change Hello SSR2 Members, On today’s plenary, it was decided to include additional slots for possible moving the plenary calls. Please see the updated doodle poll; https://doodle.com/poll/dpbnhdv5wenkahwd [doodle.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/doodle.com/poll/dpbnhdv5wenkahwd__;!!PtG…> and select your availability. Your timely response to the doodle is greatly appreciated. Kind regards, Brenda From: Brenda Brewer <brenda.brewer(a)icann.org> Date: Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 1:16 PM To: SSR2 RT <ssr2-review(a)icann.org> Subject: ACTION REQUEST: Doodle for possible plenary time change Dear SSR2 members, With the start of a new semester, asking for input to determine whether the current meeting slot is still the best time for the whole SSR2 RT. Please see doodle poll; https://doodle.com/poll/dpbnhdv5wenkahwd [doodle.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/doodle.com/poll/dpbnhdv5wenkahwd__;!!PtG…> and select your best time. Based on the poll results the time for Wednesday SSR2 Plenary calls may change. The doodle will close EOB, Friday, 11 September. Thank you for your timely response. Best, Brenda

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Re: [Ssr2-review] ACTION REQUEST: SSR2 Doodle for possible plenary time change
by Brenda Brewer Sept. 17, 2020

Sept. 17, 2020

Hi all, A kind reminder to fill out the doodle if you have not done so already. Many thanks to those that have! https://doodle.com/poll/dpbnhdv5wenkahwd<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/doodle.com/poll/dpbnhdv5wenkahwd__;!!PtG…> Best, Brenda From: Ssr2-review <ssr2-review-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Brenda Brewer <brenda.brewer(a)icann.org> Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 3:28 PM To: SSR2 RT <ssr2-review(a)icann.org> Subject: [Ssr2-review] ACTION REQUEST: SSR2 Doodle for possible plenary time change Hello SSR2 Members, On today’s plenary, it was decided to include additional slots for possible moving the plenary calls. Please see the updated doodle poll; https://doodle.com/poll/dpbnhdv5wenkahwd [doodle.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/doodle.com/poll/dpbnhdv5wenkahwd__;!!PtG…> and select your availability. Your timely response to the doodle is greatly appreciated. Kind regards, Brenda From: Brenda Brewer <brenda.brewer(a)icann.org> Date: Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 1:16 PM To: SSR2 RT <ssr2-review(a)icann.org> Subject: ACTION REQUEST: Doodle for possible plenary time change Dear SSR2 members, With the start of a new semester, asking for input to determine whether the current meeting slot is still the best time for the whole SSR2 RT. Please see doodle poll; https://doodle.com/poll/dpbnhdv5wenkahwd [doodle.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/doodle.com/poll/dpbnhdv5wenkahwd__;!!PtG…> and select your best time. Based on the poll results the time for Wednesday SSR2 Plenary calls may change. The doodle will close EOB, Friday, 11 September. Thank you for your timely response. Best, Brenda

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Call summary: SSR2 Plenary - 16 September 2020
by Brenda Brewer Sept. 17, 2020

Sept. 17, 2020

Dear SSR2 RT members, Please find attached the plenary call report for SSR2 meeting #121, 16 September 2020 at 14:00 UTC. These high-level notes are designed to help SSR2 Review Team members navigate through the content of the call. They are not meant to be a substitute for the recording or transcript, which are posted on the wiki here: https://community.icann.org/x/OQWbC. The transcript usually becomes available 5 - 7 business days after the meeting. With kind regards, Brenda --- Brenda Brewer Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Skype: brenda.brewer.icann

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ACTION REQUEST: SSR2 Doodle for possible plenary time change
by Brenda Brewer Sept. 16, 2020

Sept. 16, 2020

Hello SSR2 Members, On today’s plenary, it was decided to include additional slots for possible moving the plenary calls. Please see the updated doodle poll; https://doodle.com/poll/dpbnhdv5wenkahwd and select your availability. Your timely response to the doodle is greatly appreciated. Kind regards, Brenda From: Brenda Brewer <brenda.brewer(a)icann.org> Date: Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 1:16 PM To: SSR2 RT <ssr2-review(a)icann.org> Subject: ACTION REQUEST: Doodle for possible plenary time change Dear SSR2 members, With the start of a new semester, asking for input to determine whether the current meeting slot is still the best time for the whole SSR2 RT. Please see doodle poll; https://doodle.com/poll/dpbnhdv5wenkahwd and select your best time. Based on the poll results the time for Wednesday SSR2 Plenary calls may change. The doodle will close EOB, Friday, 11 September. Thank you for your timely response. Best, Brenda

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Rec 21
by Eric Osterweil Sept. 15, 2020

Sept. 15, 2020

Hi all, Please take a look at updated text on recommendation 21.2 in this document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FaGlYsLVSob_CflYkKBag4L27vMUNA0C0kVNtAI… Thank you, Eric

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Call summary: SSR2 Plenary - 19 August 2020]
by k claffy Sept. 15, 2020

Sept. 15, 2020

Per Russ' homework assignment, my feedback on 20 and 24. Recommendation 20: DNS Testbed: The Rationale says "ongoing activities are sufficient" so why are there 2 recommendations? What problem is this recommendation trying to solve, how do we know it's a problem, and how will SSR3 know that it is solved? What is the measurable outcome? (SSAC asked for that in PC, iirc) Recommendation 24: We seem to be blending the IANA KPIs and CZDS, but there isn't even a clear problem identified on the KPIs that we're trying to solve. (which stakeholders are trying to get access to these KPIs but cannot?) We identify the CZDS problem, but we don't even include a recommendation to address it.. This seems backwards. Is that what the team agreed to on the 19 Aug call? confused, k On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 06:12:27PM +0000, Brenda Brewer wrote: Dear SSR2 RT members, Please find attached the plenary call report for SSR2 meeting #120, 19 August 2020 at 14:00 UTC. These high-level notes are designed to help SSR2 Review Team members navigate through the content of the call. They are not meant to be a substitute for the recording or transcript, which are posted on the wiki here: https://community.icann.org/x/aIBtC. The transcript usually becomes available 5 - 7 business days after the meeting. With kind regards, Brenda --- Brenda Brewer Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Skype: brenda.brewer.icann _______________________________________________ Ssr2-review mailing list Ssr2-review(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ssr2-review _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ Ssr2-review mailing list Ssr2-review(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ssr2-review _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. ----- End forwarded message -----

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SSR2 Plenary call #121 agenda | 16 September 2020 @ 14:00 UTC
by Jean-Baptiste Deroulez Sept. 14, 2020

Sept. 14, 2020

Dear SSR2 RT members, Below is the agenda for the next SSR2 plenary call #121<https://community.icann.org/x/OQWbC>, scheduled for Wednesday 16 September @ 14:00 - 15:00 UTC. 1. Welcome, roll call, SOI updates 2. Doodle Poll (LINK<https://doodle.com/poll/dpbnhdv5wenkahwd>) and preferred time/day for upcoming SSR2 plenary calls 3. Recommendation 21 | GDOC<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FaGlYsLVSob_CflYkKBag4L27vMUNA0C0kVNtAI…> (see 21.2 p.47-48) 4. Recommendation 29 5. Risk subteam | GDOC<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MJrPzXTngRCrdXLuiyPf7SeZsuPvwjjFGFoooQs…> 6. Abuse subteam 7. AOB 8. Confirm action items, decisions reached Additional reference documents: * Response to public comments spreadsheet here<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DQpPA0aLDsW5IHLKgQqHtW-5860CKGCuTYI…> * Subteam status spreadsheet here<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cOZ1lPXqHfuZNt68zvB5xRB63eBoL3gonDb…> Please let us know whether any other documents need to be projected, Kind regards, Jean-Baptiste

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ACTION REQUEST: Doodle for possible plenary time change
by Brenda Brewer Sept. 10, 2020

Sept. 10, 2020

Dear SSR2 members, With the start of a new semester, asking for input to determine whether the current meeting slot is still the best time for the whole SSR2 RT. Please see doodle poll; https://doodle.com/poll/dpbnhdv5wenkahwd and select your best time. Based on the poll results the time for Wednesday SSR2 Plenary calls may change. The doodle will close EOB, Friday, 11 September. Thank you for your timely response. Best, Brenda

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Re: [Ssr2-review] [EXT] KERRY-ANN: Rec. 29
by Barrett, Kerry-Ann Sept. 10, 2020

Sept. 10, 2020

Dear Team As an update. KC had a crazy two weeks but we have locked in time on Friday to review this and come to some agreed text we can share. [OAS.org]<http://www.oas.org/> Sincerely Kerry-Ann Barrett Cybersecurity Program Officer Secretariat of the Inter-American Committee against Terrorism (CICTE) Secretariat for Multidimensional Security (SMS) Organization of American States 1889 F Street NW Washington D.C. 20006 [http://www.oas.org/en/sms/signature_images/phone.png] (202) 370 4675 - [http://www.oas.org/en/sms/signature_images/fax.png] (202) 458 3857 www.oas.org/cyber<http://www.oas.org/cyber> @KerryOAS<https://twitter.com/KerryOAS>| @OEA_Cyber<https://twitter.com/OEA_Cyber> Register to our distribution list here!<http://oas.us11.list-manage.com/subscribe?u=353ff0663258ae5a775d460db&id=10…> Begin forwarded message: From: k claffy <kc(a)caida.org<mailto:kc@caida.org>> Subject: Re: [Ssr2-review] Call summary: SSR2 Plenary - 29 July 2020 Date: August 22, 2020 at 9:53:42 PM EDT To: "ssr2-review(a)icann.org<mailto:ssr2-review@icann.org>" <ssr2-review(a)icann.org<mailto:ssr2-review@icann.org>> Trying to catch up, I see on this call (that i missed) that Recommendation #29 was reviewed and approved. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MJrPzXTngRCrdXLuiyPf7SeZsuPvwjjFGFoooQs…<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MJrPzXTngRCrdXLuiyPf7SeZsuPvwjjFGFoooQs…> (p68). The team generally agreed to the text, with a minor change to 29.4, which was made on the call and is reflected in the document. when i look at the document, i see problems: first, why is it called "Privacy and SSR Measurements" There is no measurement referred to in this recommendation. I'm confused. (1) 29.1: Why is DOH stuck into the same recommendation as access to registration data, which has been a topic of interminable debate for decades? Access to registration data merits its own recommendation, given that we've now spent 2 years on an "EPDP" to try to make progress on this topic. (2) Why is this recommendation not even referring to the EPDP, which has been going on for two years and its final report came out 2 days after this meeting, and SSAC has already published a quite adversarial comment on the EPDP draft report that came out back in the spring? ( SSAC is about to publish a similar comment on the final report, but we should at least have considered the SSAC comment on the draft report..) I don't see how this recommendation can completely ignore the EPDP work. (3) Why is this recommendation using the term WHOIS, which the community is replacing with RDAP? (4) 29.3.2 [god help us if we end up with sub-sub-recommendation numbering!] basically says "ICANN should not break privacy law". Explain to me why this is needed? I claim ICANN is already aware they should not break the law, and already has lawyers monitoring this area. (5) 29.3.3: develop a policy for *who* to protect PII? ICANN is not in charge of how registrars in Germany protect their PII. I don't understand this subrecommendation, what known problem it's aimed at solving, and how SSR3 will know it's been implemented. (6) 29.3.4: We want ICANN to audit registrars around the world? Like in China, to make sure that Chinese registrars are following Chinese registrar law? I don't see this happening. I think we have to be realistic here. What problem are we trying to solve, and how will SSR3 know that progress has occurred? (7) 29.4: What's a DPO? it's not yet been mentioned in this document. "provide guidance to managers and stakeholders" -- which managers and stakeholders? whkich "relevant technical developments". I have no idea what problem this subrecommendation is trying to solve. there also seem to be entire paragraphs in the 'Rationale and Finding' for this recommendation that have nothing to do with privacy, but are focused rather on accuracy of WHOIS information. the text uses WHOIS and RDAP in different places without explaining why. Are we supposed to be reviewing recommendation text but not the accompanying text on Rationale and Findings? struggling, k _______________________________________________ Ssr2-review mailing list Ssr2-review(a)icann.org<mailto:Ssr2-review@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ssr2-review _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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