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Please prepare for the plenary call on Thursday
by Russ Housley Nov. 6, 2018

Nov. 6, 2018

I hope everyone had an uneventful trip home from Barcelona. This week, there are three areas that need your attention for the call on Thursday. 1) Laurin added text into the SSR1 Google Doc for Recommendation 4. Please review it. Please raise any issues or concerns on the mail list. See https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qUxV4L-gS5xHmC4QQPGRk81MgQuhQvsbnEU7xxe… 2) In Barcelona we talked abut the topics in the Internal Facing work stream. See https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Eaj92r_ZbGBqO-2t3-tJv4Teqtix20Dly7C14XK… and https://community.icann.org/display/SSR/Subgroup+%232+-+ICANN+SSR Before the pause, there was a lot of information collected here: https://trello.com/b/5Eu1ppuv/ssr2-subtopic-2-icann-ssr Please review this material. Are there any questions we need to ask? We will need volunteers to start writing text. Please be ready to volunteer for some writing. 3) In Barcelona KC agreed to propose a set of topics for the External Facing work stream. It will be a merge of several working documents. KC said that she would send something out on Wednesday. Please review it when it comes to your mailbox. Think about what information needs to be gathered to cover those topics. Thanks, Russ

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SSR2 1 Nov agenda and f2f action items
by Jennifer Bryce Oct. 31, 2018

Oct. 31, 2018

Dear SSR2 RT members, It was good to see some of you in person last week in Barcelona - I hope your travels home or onwards were uneventful. Below, please find the agenda for tomorrow’s SSR2 plenary meeting, and the draft action items from the face-to-face meeting at ICANN63. Agenda: Thursday 1 November at 14:00 UTC 1. Welcome, roll call, SOI updates * Staff to provide update to team regarding the Jan/Feb 2019 face-to-face meeting 2. Work plan<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1as7wZJ215HhNSmwEhXEPTWg_8AjlU7OOtzI…> - approve the updated work plan ready to go to the Board 3. Update on SSR1 recommendations<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qUxV4L-gS5xHmC4QQPGRk81MgQuhQvsbnEU7xxe…> work to date and outstanding 4. Internal SSR - team to sign up to topics<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Eaj92r_ZbGBqO-2t3-tJv4Teqtix20Dly7C14XK…> and needed information 5. Review External SSR topics (KC working on document). 6. AOB 7. Confirm action items / decisions reached Draft action items: 21 & 24 October 2018 SSR2 face-to-face meeting, ICANN63 Barcelona (also attached) A record of the meeting can be found on the wiki here: https://community.icann.org/x/6Qy8BQ Day 1 - Sunday 21 October 2018 * ACTION ITEM: Staff to update and finalize Engagement Session slides based on RT comments (COMPLETE) * ACTION ITEM: Staff to re-circulate to list any questions requiring clarification from RT and continue to pursue answers to outstanding questions/update delivery dates as required. * ACTION ITEM: Scott to send question regarding recommendation 15 to staff via email (COMPLETE) * ACTION ITEM: Review Team members to complete text in Google doc for each SSR1 recommendation ahead of Wednesday 24 October meeting (COMPLETE) * ACTION ITEM: Staff to update Wednesday 24 October meeting agenda and circulate to RT along with background materials (COMPLETE) Day 2 – Wednesday 24 October 2018 * ACTION ITEM: Staff to provide all RT members with access to Trello and remove RT members who have resigned (COMPLETE). * ACTION ITEM: Staff to circulate CCT briefing slides to the SSR2 RT (COMPLETE). * ACTION ITEM: KC, Eric and any other volunteers to work on moving topics from DNS SSR topics<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KWvdcZ2g8hBxUzvzPqgzVmsT4RZ5CbIo-N2IpUU…> document to SSR2 work steam topics<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Eaj92r_ZbGBqO-2t3-tJv4Teqtix20Dly7C14XK…> document. * ACTION ITEM: Review Team to determine next steps for work stream 4 (future challenges). Team discussed including moving relevant topics to other work streams, or shortening the list of items to address and rebranding the work steam. * ACTION ITEM: Staff to research options for RT to book-end the ICANN64 meeting in Kobe with face-to-face meetings. * ACTION ITEM: Staff to research options for the RT to have a face-to-face meeting in late January or February 2019, and circulate a Doodle poll to RT with options. * ACTION ITEM: Staff to update work plan based on RT notes in the Google sheet and circulate to RT. * ACTION ITEM: Staff to create first draft of SSR2 post-ICANN63 blog and share with leadership for initial edits. * ACTION ITEM: Staff to send a note to the Review Team notifying them to the end of daylight savings time and impact on call time. Review Team members to advise any objections to keeping the call at 14:00 UTC by Friday 26 October EOD (COMPLETE). Best, Jennifer -- Jennifer Bryce Senior Reviews Coordinator Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: jennifer.bryce(a)icann.org Skype: jennifer.bryce.icann www.icann.org

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SSR2 Plenary calls remain at 14:00 UTC with Standard Time change
by MSSI Secretariat Oct. 24, 2018

Oct. 24, 2018

Hello SSR2 Review Team! This note is to advise everyone that during the Face to Face meeting today, a conversation took place regarding the upcoming time change back to Standard Time. The members in attendance agreed to keep the plenary calls at 14:00 UTC. Depending on your location in the world, this might mean Thursday plenary calls will be one hour earlier for those who recognize Standard Daylight Time. Please advise of any objections to continuing the plenary calls at 14:00 UTC by EOB on Friday, 26 October. Also, everyone should have calendar invites for the next plenary on Thursday, 1 November 14:00 UTC. Thank you! With kind regards, Brenda --- Brenda Brewer, Projects & Operations Assistant Multistakeholder Strategy & Strategic Initiatives (MSSI) Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Skype: brenda.brewer.icann

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CCT briefing slides
by Jennifer Bryce Oct. 24, 2018

Oct. 24, 2018

Dear SSR2 RT, The slides from the CCT presentation have been posted to the wiki briefing materials page here<https://community.icann.org/display/SSR/Briefing+Materials>. Direct links below: * Briefing slides for SSR2: https://community.icann.org/display/SSR/Briefing+Materials?preview=/9076859… * Background slides containing all CCT recommendations: https://community.icann.org/display/SSR/Briefing+Materials?preview=/9076859… Best, Jennifer -- Jennifer Bryce Senior Reviews Coordinator Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: jennifer.bryce(a)icann.org Skype: jennifer.bryce.icann www.icann.org

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Work items doc
by Jennifer Bryce Oct. 24, 2018

Oct. 24, 2018

Work items google doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Eaj92r_ZbGBqO-2t3-tJv4Teqtix20Dly7C14XK… -- Jennifer Bryce Senior Reviews Coordinator Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: jennifer.bryce(a)icann.org Skype: jennifer.bryce.icann www.icann.org

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Re: [Ssr2-review] [SSR2-observers] SSR2-RT Face to Face Day 2 (AM session) @ ICANN63 Barcelona | 24 October 2018
by Jennifer Bryce Oct. 24, 2018

Oct. 24, 2018

Dear all - we are in room 131/132 for the meeting waiting to get started. From: mssi-secretariat(a)icann.org When: 9:00 AM - 1:15 PM October 24, 2018 Subject: [SSR2-observers] SSR2-RT Face to Face Day 2 (AM session) @ ICANN63 Barcelona | 24 October 2018 Location: ICANN63 | Barcelona Spain: Room 131/132 Remote participation details… SSR2 Face to Face Meeting - Day 2 (morning session)<https://community.icann.org/x/6Qy8BQ> <-- agenda TBA on wiki page Adobe Connect via this link: https://participate.icann.org/bcn63-131 Face to Face Day 2 - AM Session: Wednesday, 24 October 2018 @ 9:00 – 13:15 CEST. For additional local times click here [timeanddate.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.timeanddate.com_wo…>. ICANN63-Barcelona Schedule page for this meeting [63.schedule.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__63.schedule.icann.org_…>

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Meeting tomorrow
by Weissinger, Laurin Oct. 23, 2018

Oct. 23, 2018

Dear all, Again my apologies for not being in Barcelona, I fell sick and was not able to travel. Today, I have inserted my comments and thoughts for relevant recommendations in the google document. Always mentioned my name, in case these points were already discussed. I will be joining remotely tomorrow, Sunday unfortunately was not possible. With best wishes Laurin

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SSR2 24 October agenda, materials
by Jennifer Bryce Oct. 23, 2018

Oct. 23, 2018

Dear SSR2 RT members, Please find below the agenda and materials for tomorrow’s face-to-face meeting. Please note the room change in the middle of the day. Room 131/132, remote participation: https://participate.icann.org/bcn63-131 Coffee 08:30-09:00 1. Welcome, SOI updates, opening remarks 2. SSR1 recommendations – finish draft text for 28 recommendations (display table<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qUxV4L-gS5xHmC4QQPGRk81MgQuhQvsbnEU7xxe…> and step through them as a group) Break 10:30-10:45 3. Planning for work streams 2, 3 and 4 (see work items document here<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Eaj92r_ZbGBqO-2t3-tJv4Teqtix20Dly7C14XK…>) Room 120, see invite for remote participation details Lunch 12:00-13:30 4. Discussion with members of the Competition, Consumer Trust, and Consumer Choice (CCT) Review Team (see their final recommendations here<https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/cct-final-recs-08sep18-en.pdf>) Break 15:30-15:45 5. Finalize work plan (see draft here<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1as7wZJ215HhNSmwEhXEPTWg_8AjlU7OOtzI…>) 6. Next steps 7. A.O.B & closing remarks 18:30 adjourn Best, Jennifer -- Jennifer Bryce Senior Reviews Coordinator Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: jennifer.bryce(a)icann.org Skype: jennifer.bryce.icann www.icann.org

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Info for SSR2 meeting 21 October
by Jennifer Bryce Oct. 22, 2018

Oct. 22, 2018

Dear SSR2 Review Team members, We are looking forward to seeing some of you in-person tomorrow at the face-to-face meeting in Room 120. Please see below for some additional information: The agenda is attached with some suggested edits on timing from Denise below. Coffee will be served from 8:30 and the first agenda item discussion is scheduled to begin at 09:00. Note that you should please eat breakfast before the meeting as there will be no breakfast at the venue. Material for discussions are attached and posted to the wiki here<https://community.icann.org/x/6Qy8BQ>: * Engagement session slides * Draft work plan * SSR1 recommendations table Google doc here<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qUxV4L-gS5xHmC4QQPGRk81MgQuhQvsbnEU7xxe…> (RT member access only) * SSR1 email from Alain<https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ssr2-review/2018-October/001250.html> Remote attendance will be available. Please see the meeting invite for details. Please note there are no microphones in the room, only a Polycom conference phone. Please let us know if you have questions. Best, Jennifer From: Ssr2-review <ssr2-review-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Denise Michel <denisemichel(a)fb.com> Date: Thursday, October 18, 2018 at 11:09 PM To: SSR2 <ssr2-review(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ssr2-review] Draft agenda and engagement slides - ICANN63 Barcelona (Thanks for the draft, Jennifer) I’ve just now had time to review and suggest the following changes for the Team’s consideration * Also, I suggest we review Wednesday’s schedule after our first f2f day. Safe travels Denise Face-to-Face Meeting Day 1 – Sunday, 21 October 2018 08:30 – 17:30 CEST | 06:30 – 07:30 UTC (timezoneconverter<https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SSR2+Review+Team+…>) Reading List: See wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/6Qy8BQ Meeting Room – 120 Remote participation for RT members: See meeting invite Remote participation for Observers - https://participate.icann.org/ssrreview-observers Coffee 08:30-09:00 1. Welcome, SOI updates, opening remarks (09:00 – 09:15) Russ 2. *(suggest 30 mins) Finalize Barcelona engagement session slides (09:15 – 10:00)All 3. *(suggest change to 30 mins since it’s been on list most of week) Finalize workplan (10:00 – 12:00) All *(adjust all times as needed) Break 10:30-10:45 Review Team Lunch 12:00-13:30 4. Address SSR1 *overarching questions and issues (including any outstanding questions and email<https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ssr2-review/2018-October/001250.html> from Alain) (13:30 – 14:00) Alain, all 5. SSR1 recommendations – draft text for 28 recommendations (display table<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qUxV4L-gS5xHmC4QQPGRk81MgQuhQvsbnEU7xxe…> and step through them as a group) (14:00 – 17:00)Doodle poll volunteers, all Break 15:30-15:45 6. Day 1 debrief and A.O.B (17:00 – 17:30) Russ Review Team Dinner: 19:00. Refer to invite for details. --- Face-to-Face Meeting Day 2 AM – Wednesday, 24 October 2018 08:30 – 12:00 CEST | 06:30 – 10:00 UTC (timezoneconverter<https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SSR2+Review+Team+…>) Reading List: See wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/6Qy8BQ Meeting Room – 131/132 (Please note the room change for the afternoon session) Remote participation for RT members: See meeting invite Remote participation for Observers - https://participate.icann.org/bcn63-131 Coffee 08:30-09:00 1. Welcome, SOI updates, opening remarks (09:00 – 09:15) Russ 2. Planning for workstreams 2, 3 and 4 (09:15 – 10:30) Boban, Eric, Kerry-Ann, all Break 10:30-10:45 3. Prioritize order of tackling work streams and begin work(10:45 – 12:00) All Review Team Lunch 12:00-13:30 Face-to-Face Meeting Day 2 PM – Wednesday, 24 October 2018 13:30 – 18:30 CEST | 11:30 – 16:30 UTC (timezoneconverter<https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SSR2+Review+Team+…>) Reading List: See wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/6Qy8BQ Meeting Room – 120 (Note room change from morning session) Remote participation for RT members: See meeting invite Remote participation for Observers - https://participate.icann.org/ssrreview-observers 4. Discussion with members of the Competition, Consumer Trust, and Consumer Choice (CCT<https://community.icann.org/x/145YAw>) Review Team. (Discuss intersections between the CCT and SSR2 review team mandates) (13:30 – 15:00) CCT Review Team members 5. Continue work on prioritized work stream (15:00 – 17:30) All Break 15:30-15:45 6. Next Steps (17:30 – 18:00) Russ 7. A.O.B and closing remarks (18:00-18:30) Russ --- Denise Michel Sent from mobile phone On Oct 18, 2018, at 12:43 AM, Jennifer Bryce <jennifer.bryce(a)icann.org<mailto:jennifer.bryce@icann.org>> wrote: Dear SSR2 Review Team, Attached for your consideration as discussed with the leadership are the: * Agenda for Sunday 21 and Wednesday 24 October face-to-face meetings * Draft slides for engagement sessions with the community (note agenda item on Sunday to finalize these) Best, Jennifer -- Jennifer Bryce Senior Reviews Coordinator Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: jennifer.bryce(a)icann.org<mailto:jennifer.bryce@icann.org> Skype: jennifer.bryce.icann www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org> <Draft SSR2 Agendav2 - ICANN63.docx> <SSR2 Engagement ICANN63 - v2DRAFT.pptx> _______________________________________________ Ssr2-review mailing list Ssr2-review(a)icann.org<mailto:Ssr2-review@icann.org> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mailman_l…

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Re: [Ssr2-review] [EXT] Re: Info for SSR2 meeting 21 October
by Barrett, Kerry-Ann Oct. 21, 2018

Oct. 21, 2018

Dear All I regret to inform that I will not be able to join the session today in its entirety. I have a death in my family of a close relative on Saturday afternoon EST and our family is processing right now. I will endeavor to participate in the Wednesday session and based on Denise’s suggested amendments to the agenda, I would ask the ICANN SSR former subgroup to let me know how I can contribute to session as I may have to take a reduced lead role on Wednesday. I will keep the team posted. If there is a shift in the times and agenda could staff please send an updated version for Wednesday based on how the session concludes today. Thanks and appreciate the understanding in advance. Sincerely, Kerry-Ann > On Oct 21, 2018, at 12:53 AM, k claffy <kc(a)caida.org> wrote: > > > > Greetings to SSR2, > the time shift is difficult for me, > i will join in the afternoon. > i have not contributed my input on recs #23 and #24 yet > but will tomorrow, and hope to review a transcript/notes > in time for webnesday meeting time. > > thanks and sorry i could not be there in person, > k > >> On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 10:01:36AM +0000, Jennifer Bryce wrote: >> Dear SSR2 Review Team members, >> >> We are looking forward to seeing some of you in-person tomorrow at the face-to-face meeting in Room 120. Please see below for some additional information: >> >> The agenda is attached with some suggested edits on timing from Denise below. >> >> Coffee will be served from 8:30 and the first agenda item discussion is scheduled to begin at 09:00. Note that you should please eat breakfast before the meeting as there will be no breakfast at the venue. >> >> Material for discussions are attached and posted to the wiki here<https://community.icann.org/x/6Qy8BQ>: >> >> * Engagement session slides >> * Draft work plan >> * SSR1 recommendations table Google doc here<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qUxV4L-gS5xHmC4QQPGRk81MgQuhQvsbnEU7xxe…> (RT member access only) >> * SSR1 email from Alain<https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ssr2-review/2018-October/001250.html> >> >> Remote attendance will be available. Please see the meeting invite for details. Please note there are no microphones in the room, only a Polycom conference phone. >> >> Please let us know if you have questions. >> >> Best, >> Jennifer >> >> From: Ssr2-review <ssr2-review-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Denise Michel <denisemichel(a)fb.com> >> Date: Thursday, October 18, 2018 at 11:09 PM >> To: SSR2 <ssr2-review(a)icann.org> >> Subject: Re: [Ssr2-review] Draft agenda and engagement slides - ICANN63 Barcelona >> >> (Thanks for the draft, Jennifer) >> >> I???ve just now had time to review and suggest the following changes for the Team???s consideration * >> >> Also, I suggest we review Wednesday???s schedule after our first f2f day. >> >> Safe travels >> Denise >> >> >> Face-to-Face Meeting Day 1 ??? Sunday, 21 October 2018 >> >> 08:30 ??? 17:30 CEST | 06:30 ??? 07:30 UTC (timezoneconverter<https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SSR2+Review+Team+…>) >> >> Reading List: See wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/6Qy8BQ >> >> Meeting Room ??? 120 >> >> Remote participation for RT members: See meeting invite >> >> Remote participation for Observers - https://participate.icann.org/ssrreview-observers >> >> Coffee 08:30-09:00 >> >> 1. Welcome, SOI updates, opening remarks (09:00 ??? 09:15) Russ >> >> 2. *(suggest 30 mins) Finalize Barcelona engagement session slides (09:15 ??? 10:00)All >> >> 3. *(suggest change to 30 mins since it???s been on list most of week) Finalize workplan (10:00 ??? 12:00) All >> >> *(adjust all times as needed) >> >> Break 10:30-10:45 >> >> Review Team Lunch 12:00-13:30 >> >> 4. Address SSR1 *overarching questions and issues (including any outstanding questions and email<https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ssr2-review/2018-October/001250.html> from Alain) (13:30 ??? 14:00) Alain, all >> >> >> >> 5. SSR1 recommendations ??? draft text for 28 recommendations (display table<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qUxV4L-gS5xHmC4QQPGRk81MgQuhQvsbnEU7xxe…> and step through them as a group) (14:00 ??? 17:00)Doodle poll volunteers, all >> >> Break 15:30-15:45 >> >> 6. Day 1 debrief and A.O.B (17:00 ??? 17:30) Russ >> >> Review Team Dinner: 19:00. Refer to invite for details. >> >> --- >> >> Face-to-Face Meeting Day 2 AM ??? Wednesday, 24 October 2018 >> >> 08:30 ??? 12:00 CEST | 06:30 ??? 10:00 UTC (timezoneconverter<https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SSR2+Review+Team+…>) >> >> Reading List: See wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/6Qy8BQ >> >> Meeting Room ??? 131/132 (Please note the room change for the afternoon session) >> >> Remote participation for RT members: See meeting invite >> >> Remote participation for Observers - https://participate.icann.org/bcn63-131 >> >> Coffee 08:30-09:00 >> >> 1. Welcome, SOI updates, opening remarks (09:00 ??? 09:15) Russ >> >> 2. Planning for workstreams 2, 3 and 4 (09:15 ??? 10:30) Boban, Eric, Kerry-Ann, all >> >> Break 10:30-10:45 >> >> 3. Prioritize order of tackling work streams and begin work(10:45 ??? 12:00) All >> >> Review Team Lunch 12:00-13:30 >> >> Face-to-Face Meeting Day 2 PM ??? Wednesday, 24 October 2018 >> >> 13:30 ??? 18:30 CEST | 11:30 ??? 16:30 UTC (timezoneconverter<https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SSR2+Review+Team+…>) >> >> Reading List: See wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/6Qy8BQ >> >> Meeting Room ??? 120 (Note room change from morning session) >> >> Remote participation for RT members: See meeting invite >> >> Remote participation for Observers - https://participate.icann.org/ssrreview-observers >> >> 4. Discussion with members of the Competition, Consumer Trust, and Consumer Choice (CCT<https://community.icann.org/x/145YAw>) Review Team. (Discuss intersections between the CCT and SSR2 review team mandates) (13:30 ??? 15:00) CCT Review Team members >> >> 5. Continue work on prioritized work stream (15:00 ??? 17:30) All >> >> Break 15:30-15:45 >> >> 6. Next Steps (17:30 ??? 18:00) Russ >> >> 7. A.O.B and closing remarks (18:00-18:30) Russ >> >> --- >> >> >> Denise Michel >> Sent from mobile phone >> >> On Oct 18, 2018, at 12:43 AM, Jennifer Bryce <jennifer.bryce(a)icann.org<mailto:jennifer.bryce@icann.org>> wrote: >> Dear SSR2 Review Team, >> >> Attached for your consideration as discussed with the leadership are the: >> >> * Agenda for Sunday 21 and Wednesday 24 October face-to-face meetings >> * Draft slides for engagement sessions with the community (note agenda item on Sunday to finalize these) >> >> Best, >> Jennifer >> >> -- >> Jennifer Bryce >> Senior Reviews Coordinator >> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) >> >> Email: jennifer.bryce(a)icann.org<mailto:jennifer.bryce@icann.org> >> Skype: jennifer.bryce.icann >> www.icann.org<http://www.icann.org> >> <Draft SSR2 Agendav2 - ICANN63.docx> >> <SSR2 Engagement ICANN63 - v2DRAFT.pptx> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ssr2-review mailing list >> Ssr2-review(a)icann.org<mailto:Ssr2-review@icann.org> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mailman_l… > > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> Ssr2-review mailing list >> Ssr2-review(a)icann.org >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ssr2-review > > _______________________________________________ > Ssr2-review mailing list > Ssr2-review(a)icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ssr2-review

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