June 2015 - Gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg

Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] URGENT Correction to Recommendation 4 - REPLY NEEDED!
by Wanawit Ahkuputra June 20, 2015

June 20, 2015

Dear Lars, I consent the change on Recommendation #4. Regards, Wanawit Ahkuputra Deputy Executive Director ETDA Electronic Transactions Development Agency (Public Organization) Mob.: +668 9301 8818 Email: wanawit(a)etda.or.th From: <owner-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg(a)icann.org> on behalf of Lars Hoffmann <lars.hoffmann(a)icann.org> Date: Saturday, June 20, 2015 at 16:10 To: "gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg(a)icann.org" <gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg(a)icann.org> Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] URGENT Correction to Recommendation 4 - REPLY NEEDED! Dear all, Please all read this careful and try to reply on list as soon as possible. It has come to our attention that there was an important term mistakenly used in Recommendation #4 of our Final Report The Recommendation reads currently: Recommendation #4 The Working Group recommends that, regardless of the language(s)/script(s) used, it is assured that the data fields are consistent to standards in the Registrar Accreditation Agreement (RAA), relevant L Policy, Additional Whois Information Policy (AWIP) and any other applicable polices. Entered contact information data are verified, in accordance with the aforementioned Policies and Agreements and the language/script used must be easily identifiable. Level of consensus: Full Consensus The term verified¹ in the second sentence of the recommendation has legal implications and would change significantly the contractual obligations of the Contracted Parties. As the substance of the Final Report on that particular issue makes it clear that "validation" was intended to be used instead of ³verification². Both co-Chairs agree that this is a clerical mistake as the Group meant to use the term validate¹ not verifiy¹ and it should be changed accordingly. With your consent we would like change the working to reflect the actual meaning of what the Group meant to recommend. In order to prevent delaying the GNSO Council¹s vote on our Final Report, this would have to happen as soon as possible so that the Motion to adopt can be changed accordingly and in time for Wednesday¹s Council discussion and vote. Many thanks and best wishes, Lars

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Re: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Final Report
by Julie Hedlund June 16, 2015

June 16, 2015

Dear all, As staff support I would like to echo the comments from Lars below. It really has been both a pleasure and privilege to work with all of you, and especially Chris and Rudi! Kind regards, Julie From: Lars Hoffmann <lars.hoffmann(a)icann.org> Date: Friday, June 12, 2015 6:05 AM To: "gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg(a)icann.org" <gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg(a)icann.org> Subject: [gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Final Report > Dear all, > > Once again, I would like to thank you all for your hard work and dedication > that made the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP > Working Group a real pleasure to support. Special thanks goes out to the > co-Chairs Chris Dillion and Rudi Vansnick who have led a PDP Working Group for > the first time and I hope you agree with me that they have done an outstanding > job and I very much hope this was not the last time they took on a leadership > role within the GNSO community. > > Attached you find the Final Report please note that there were some very > minor edits made to Petter¹s text (p.19). This has of course been cleared with > Petter. I have asked ICANN¹s web-admin team to post the report online and as > soon as that is done, the motion to the GNSO Council can be posted. > > Many thanks again for all your hard work, I hope I will see most of you in > Buenos Aires or at another ICANN meeting in the not too distant future. > Very best wishes > Lars > >

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Final Report
by Lars Hoffmann June 12, 2015

June 12, 2015

Dear all, Once again, I would like to thank you all for your hard work and dedication that made the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group a real pleasure to support. Special thanks goes out to the co-Chairs Chris Dillion and Rudi Vansnick who have led a PDP Working Group for the first time and I hope you agree with me that they have done an outstanding job and I very much hope this was not the last time they took on a leadership role within the GNSO community. Attached you find the Final Report please note that there were some very minor edits made to Petter¹s text (p.19). This has of course been cleared with Petter. I have asked ICANN¹s web-admin team to post the report online and as soon as that is done, the motion to the GNSO Council can be posted. Many thanks again for all your hard work, I hope I will see most of you in Buenos Aires or at another ICANN meeting in the not too distant future. Very best wishes Lars

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T&T: Today's meeting
by Dillon, Chris June 11, 2015

June 11, 2015

Dear colleagues, Another thought. Following the passing of the consensus deadline at 23:59 UTC last night, it looks very much like we have full consensus. As Amr helpfully pointed out, however, the deadline, might have been somewhat tight for some among you. May I, therefore, encourage anyone who feels they cannot provide their consensus to indicate this on the list before 12:00 UTC today, so that we may deal with this effectively during the call and decide on the next steps. If all consent, it may be a relatively quick call with only minor edits and a reminder of the next steps. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon<http://www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon>

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MP3 Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP WG meeting 11 June 2015
by Nathalie Peregrine June 11, 2015

June 11, 2015

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group call held on Thursday 11 June 2015 at 13:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-11jun15-en.mp3<http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=NrFWbrBstcrPWP369qgbqlXiSKeL20xnUXz…> On page: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may>http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#j<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jun>un<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jun> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar Attendees: Chris Dillon – NCSG Sara Bockey – RrSG Justine Chew – Individual Jim Galvin - RySG Rudi Vansnick - NPOC Amr Elsadr - NCUC Petter Rindforth – IPC Peter Green (Zhang Zuan) – NCUC Apologies: Peter Dernbach ICANN Staff Julie Hedlund Lars Hoffmann Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Wiki page: http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie Adobe Chat Transcript for Thursday 11 June 2015: Nathalie Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP WG call on the 11th June 2015 Petter Rindforth:As I just e-mailed: Just a short note, from the IPC point of view, that we still not support the suggested recommendation nr 1. IPC is of the view that it is desirable to make transformation of contact information mandatory. I can, quickly after todays meeting, prepare a short “minority note” on that, basically referring to the reasons IPS has previously put forward. I accept the other recommendations, however based on that the transformation is mandatory. Rudi Vansnick:@Petter: and who should bear the cost in that case .? Nathalie Peregrine:Amr Elsadr has joined the call Amr Elsadr:@Petter: I imagined this to be the case, which is why I wanted to point out the option of a minority statement. Nathalie Peregrine:Justine Chew has joined the call Amr Elsadr:Rec#1 is the big one. Amr Elsadr:Rudi's right. The two recommendations have an association. Amr Elsadr:The association is actually between rec#1 and the text refering to the findings in relation to charter q.2 Amr Elsadr:@Chris: I have your same hearing problem. :) Petter Rindforth:Ok, "charter q2", I read it as q2.... Petter Rindforth:or rather recommendation 2 Petter Rindforth:You will get it today! Amr Elsadr:@Lars: Yes. Very true. Amr Elsadr:@Lars: Completely agree. Justine Chew:+1 Jim Julie Hedlund:@Jim and Amr: I have put some language from the Working Group Guidelines below the agenda. Julie Hedlund:On the right of the Adobe Connect screen. Amr Elsadr:@Julie: Thanks. Yes the consensus levels are defined in the GNSO Working Group Guidelines. Justine Chew:+1 Julie Amr Elsadr:@Lars: Yes. Thanks. I missed the public comment period prior to the board vote. I've got GNSO tunnel vision. :P Amr Elsadr:@Jim: Very true. :) Rudi Vansnick:do we have to do a vote ? Amr Elsadr:@Rudi: A vote is only necessary if the Chair(s) decide it is necessary. Normally, a vote is not conducted. The WG is supposed to reach consensus, not vote. Rudi Vansnick:thanks Amr Julie Hedlund:+1 Amr. The Guidelines say: "Care should be taken in using polls that they do not become votes. A liability with the use of polls is that, in situations where there is Divergence or Strong Opposition, there are often disagreements about the meanings of the poll questions or of the poll results." Julie Hedlund:++1 Amr! Rudi Vansnick:@Julie: thanks for clarifications Rudi Vansnick:Amr: that's what i"m afraid of .. Petter Rindforth:@Amr, I understand that you strongly support 4 - 5 different recommendations ;-) Rudi Vansnick:next steps : motion ? Amr Elsadr:Motion shouldn't be submitted until the minority statement is submitted and the consensus level is adjusted. Rudi Vansnick:Amr: +1 of course ;) Amr Elsadr:@Lars: Sounds good to me. Rudi Vansnick:many many thanks go to Chris, Lars and Julie and of course to all of you too Amr Elsadr:Note that when the board is considering GNSO adopted recommendations, the ACs (ALAC and GAC) can submit Advice that is contradictory to the GNSO recommendations. Just thought I'd add that. Rudi Vansnick:Amr : interesting ... Amr Elsadr:Not that I am in favour of that (in principle). Just wanted to note a possibility in the overall process. Justine Chew:I look forward to receiving an update through the email list on next steps so it's clear what is expected of the WG members, if any remains. Julie Hedlund:I want to echo all that Lars said. It has been a great pleasure and privilege to work with Chris and Rudi and all of you! Amr Elsadr:@Justine: WG members have the option to join an Implementation Review Team (IRT) to assist staff in implementation of the recommendations as they were intended by the GNSO/Board. This only begins after the Board adopts the recommendations and makes them actual policy. Amr Elsadr:And a big thanks to our co-chairs and all for the work over this past year and a half. Rudi Vansnick:so we have a few months off ;) Justine Chew:Yes, that's post this PDP - I was referring to the minority position for this final report. Amr Elsadr:And thanks to the great support (as always) from staff. :) Peter Green (CONAC):a year and a half ,thanks to Chris and Rudi Amr Elsadr:@Justine: Don't imagine there will be much to do as long as nothing in the report is changed. Just the consensus level on rec 1 and the minority statement. Justine Chew:@Amr, if you says so. Justine Chew:Bingo, thanks Amr! Justine Chew:Just that from what I heard of the push for minority position, it sounds like serious change. Justine Chew:+1 Amr Amr Elsadr:@Chris: Yes, we have been liberal, but time is tight right now. Justine Chew:@Chris - LOL Amr Elsadr:Wasn't only smiling in the chat room. :) Sara Bockey:Thank you all. This has been a great experience. Rudi Vansnick:save travels and see you in BA Justine Chew:Thanks all! Lovely to make all your acquantances Julie Hedlund:Bye everyone and thank you again! Jim Galvin:bye and thanks all! Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye. Peter Green (CONAC):bye all Chris Dillon:Good bye all. Chris Dillon:I really shall miss these meetings!

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Final version and call for consensus
by Rudi Vansnick June 11, 2015

June 11, 2015

Dear working group members, As co-chairs of the Translation and Transliteration Working Group, Chris Dillon and I have reached the following conclusions: 1. All public comments have been reviewed and discussed by the WG and a number of amendments were made to the Initial Report - as agreed to by members of the Working Group. 2. There have been no objections to the Final Report communicated on the WG list it was first sent to the WG on 5 June 2015 at 06:50 UTC with a final response deadline of Tuesday 9 June 23:59 UTC. 3. Therefore, we determine that the Working Group has reached full consensus on the Final Report as attached in clean and redline versions, noting that the redline version highlights all edits made to the Initial Report that was published for public comment in December 2015. All WG participants have until 12:00 UTC (noon) on Thursday 11 June 2015 to object to the ‘full consensus’ call by the co-chairs. If anyone objects, please explain your reasons. If no one objects in the allotted time, the report will be sent by our Council Liaison to the GNSO Council for their action along with a draft motion for its approval. If anyone has any questions, please feel free to ask. Rudi Vansnick Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) www.npoc.org <http://www.npoc.org/> rudi.vansnick(a)npoc.org Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16 Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32

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T&T: Today's agenda
by Dillon, Chris June 11, 2015

June 11, 2015

Dear colleagues, Please find the draft agenda for today's meeting below. It includes a link to the latest version of the final report, which should incorporate both Amr's and Justine's comments and edits. Many thanks to both of them! Draft agenda 1. Welcome 2. Roll call 3. Statements of interest 4. A final look at the final report (especially recommendations)<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/53779599/Final%20Report%20…> 5. Next steps and procedures 6. AOB Please note that at this stage edits need to be proofreading/consistency level. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon<http://www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon>

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MP3 Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP WG meeting 9 June 2015
by Nathalie Peregrine June 9, 2015

June 9, 2015

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group call held on Tuesday 9 June 2015 at 13:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-09jun15-en.mp3<http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=NrFWbrBstcrPWP369qgbqlXiSKeL20xnUXz…> On page: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may>http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#j<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jun>un<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jun> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar Attendees: Chris Dillon - NCSG Sara Bockey - RrSG Justine Chew - Individual Jim Galvin - RySG Rudi Vansnick - NPOC Roger Carney - RrSG Wanawit Akhuputra - GAC Wen Zhai - RySG Apologies: Amr Elsadr - NCUC Petter Rindforth - IPC Peter Green (Zhang Zuan) - NCUC Pitinan Kooarmonpatana - GAC ICANN Staff Julie Hedlund Lars Hoffmann Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Wiki page: http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie Adobe Chat Transcript for Tuesday 9 June 2015:

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T&T: Final deadline for amendments to the final report
by Dillon, Chris June 9, 2015

June 9, 2015

Dear colleagues, Please propose any amendments to the version attached (updated in the light of today's meeting) by 23:59 UTC today. Please note that: * the authoritative version of the recommendations is on p.19-20. * the executive summary will be amended at the end. Incidentally, for those not at today's meeting, our final working group meeting is this Thursday at 13:00 UTC. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon From: Lars Hoffmann [mailto:lars.hoffmann@icann.org] Sent: 09 June 2015 17:45 To: Dillon, Chris Subject: report Hi Chris. Here are my two cents - see what you think. When you send to the Group, make sure to give them the page numbers - and point out that the executive summary will be amended at the end. The authoritative text is in Section 5. They have until 23:59 UTC to propose amendments. Is it ok for you to send out? Cheers Lars

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T&T Last editing telephone meeting - today 13:00 UTC
by Dillon, Chris June 9, 2015

June 9, 2015

Dear colleagues, Please find the draft agenda for today's meeting below: Draft agenda 1. Welcome 2. Roll call 3. Statements of interest 4. Draft final report v5.1 (especially recommendations p.19-20)<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/53779093/Draft_Final_V5-1.…> 5. Next steps and procedures 6. AOB It includes the latest version of the draft final report. Please note that today is scheduled to be our last editing meeting. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon<http://www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon> The next Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group teleconference is scheduled for Tuesday, 09 June 2015 at 1300 UTC 06:00 PDT, 09:00 EDT, 14:00 London, 15:00 CET For other places see: http://tinyurl.com/objugrv A calendar invitation will be sent shortly after this email. If you do not receive it, please download the ical invitation attached to this email. Adobe Connect<http://icann.adobeconnect.com/gnsocontactinfopdpwg/> room<http://icann.adobeconnect.com/gnsocontactinfopdpwg/> Mailing list archives<http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg/%20> Wiki page<https://community.icann.org/x/FTR-Ag%20> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page<http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> The dial-in details are below - please let me know if you require a dial-out. Please confirm your dial-out requests GNSO Secretariats gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> _____________________________________________________________________ Participant passcode: CONTACT Dial in numbers: Country Toll Numbers Freephone/ Toll Free Number ARGENTINA 0800-777-0519 AUSTRALIA ADELAIDE: 61-8-8121-4842 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA BRISBANE: 61-7-3102-0944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA CANBERRA: 61-2-6100-1944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA MELBOURNE: 61-3-9010-7713 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA PERTH: 61-8-9467-5223 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA SYDNEY: 61-2-8205-8129 1-800-657-260 AUSTRIA 43-1-92-81-113 0800-005-259 BELGIUM 32-2-400-9861 0800-3-8795 BRAZIL 55-11-3958-0779 0800-7610651 CHILE 1230-020-2863 CHINA CHINA A: 86-400-810-4789 10800-712-1670 CHINA CHINA B: 86-400-810-4789 10800-120-1670 COLOMBIA 01800-9-156474 CROATIA 080-08-06-309 CZECH REPUBLIC 420-2-25-98-56-64 800-700-177 DENMARK 45-7014-0284 8088-8324 ESTONIA 800-011-1093 FINLAND 358-9-5424-7162 0-800-9-14610 FRANCE LYON: 33-4-26-69-12-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE MARSEILLE: 33-4-86-06-00-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE PARIS: 33-1-70-70-60-72 080-511-1496 GERMANY 49-69-2222-20362 0800-664-4247 GREECE 30-80-1-100-0687 00800-12-7312 HONG KONG 852-3001-3863 800-962-856 HUNGARY 36-1-700-8856 06-800-12755 INDIA BANGALORE: 91-80-61275204 INDIA MUMBAI: 91-22-61501629 INDIA INDIA A: 000-800-852-1268 INDIA INDIA B: 000-800-001-6305 INDIA INDIA C: 1800-300-00491 INDONESIA 001-803-011-3982 IRELAND 353-1-246-7646 1800-992-368 ISRAEL 1-80-9216162 ITALY MILAN: 39-02-3600-6007 800-986-383 ITALY ROME: 39-06-8751-6018 800-986-383 ITALY TORINO: 39-011-510-0118 800-986-383 JAPAN OSAKA: 81-6-7878-2631 0066-33-132439 JAPAN TOKYO: 81-3-6868-2631 0066-33-132439 LATVIA 8000-3185 LUXEMBOURG 352-27-000-1364 8002-9246 MALAYSIA 1-800-81-3065 MEXICO GUADALAJARA (JAL): 52-33-3208-7310 001-866-376-9696 MEXICO MEXICO CITY: 52-55-5062-9110 001-866-376-9696 MEXICO MONTERREY: 52-81-2482-0610 001-866-376-9696 NETHERLANDS 31-20-718-8588 0800-023-4378 NEW ZEALAND 64-9-970-4771 0800-447-722 NORWAY 47-21-590-062 800-15157 PANAMA 011-001-800-5072065 PERU 0800-53713 PHILIPPINES 63-2-858-3716 1800-111-42453 POLAND 00-800-1212572 PORTUGAL 8008-14052 ROMANIA 40-31-630-01-79 RUSSIA 8-10-8002-0144011 SAUDI ARABIA 800-8-110087 SINGAPORE 65-6883-9230 800-120-4663 SLOVAK REPUBLIC 421-2-322-422-25 0800-002066 SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-80414 SOUTH KOREA 82-2-6744-1083 00798-14800-7352 SPAIN 34-91-414-25-33 800-300-053 SWEDEN 46-8-566-19-348 0200-884-622 SWITZERLAND 41-44-580-6398 0800-120-032 TAIWAN 886-2-2795-7379 00801-137-797 THAILAND 001-800-1206-66056 TURKEY 00-800-151-0516 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES 8000-35702370 UNITED KINGDOM BIRMINGHAM: 44-121-210-9025 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM GLASGOW: 44-141-202-3225 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LEEDS: 44-113-301-2125 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LONDON: 44-20-7108-6370 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM MANCHESTER: 44-161-601-1425 0808-238-6029 URUGUAY 000-413-598-3421 USA 1-517-345-9004 866-692-5726 VENEZUELA 0800-1-00-3702 Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew

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