September 2012 - Gnso-improvem-impl-sc

AW: SCI
by KnobenW＠telekom.de Sept. 13, 2012

Sept. 13, 2012

Thanks Marika, I just share it with the team. Best regards Wolf-Ulrich ________________________________ Von: Marika Konings [mailto:marika.konings@icann.org] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. September 2012 14:34 An: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich Betreff: Re: SCI Hi Wolf, Please see the transcript below. With best regards, Marika Julie Hedlund:Hi Marika I just Julie Hedlund:joined Marika Konings:Hi Julie Marika Konings:Analysis is up now. avri:The opinion that says Avri can be marked as NCSG. J. Scott Evans:I think there has already been an issue, the problem was there was no formal process for considering the issue Ron A:@ Avri: ltd to one to ensure no stonewalling Ron A:BC supports status quo Ron A:Agree with argument; but safeguard the principle Ron A:My point Avri! J. Scott Evans:If we leave it as is, then I think we need be very specific in our reasoning by pointing out that we believe that the Chair has the discretion to deny. That needs to be clearly ennunciated. Ron A:What happens if the chair is biased for or against? Ron A:bias by way of affiliation J. Scott Evans:Good question Anne. J. Scott Evans:I thought Stephane clearly stated that he could NOT deny request because he had no process for doing so. Hence, theis issue coming to the SCIU avri:Except in PDPD's where it has been enshrined, it is just a priactice and practice belongs to the chair. J. Scott Evans:SCI avri:PDP's not PDPD's Anne Aikman-Scalese:Chair cannot choose without authority to do so in governance documents, I think. Anne Aikman-Scalese:Principle should not depend on which particular individual holds the position of Chair of the GNSO. Authority to override a deferral should be clear if it is needed. J. Scott Evans:If you want to keep it as is, I think that we need to clearly state that the Chair has discretion to deny or to put to a vote. Ray Fassett - RySG:agree with J Scott J. Scott Evans:In other words, clearly state that the request does not HAVE to be automatically granted Ron A:@ J +1 Anne Aikman-Scalese:Agree with J. Scott and Ray but we should cite to the basis for this opinion by SCI. Ron A:8 days for larger institutions that make up the BC or ISCP need more than 8 days Avri Ray Fassett - RySG:Anne-perhaps can cite the rationale as the checks balances that exist in procedures for the chair to always act neutral Anne Aikman-Scalese:Yes, but overriding a deferral may not be seen as "neutral". Ray Fassett - RySG:in that situation, there are procedures for others to bring that complaint, I believe Anne Aikman-Scalese:Yes, but do we really want to put the GNSO Chair in that position in relation to complaints? avri:i disagree with coffying what the chair can and can't do. avri:coffying - codifying. Ron A:@ Anne: we are only giving recommendations back to council at teh SCI Ron A:SCI recommendations avri:each chair gets to interpret on her own. Ron A:Let the Chair's authority be challenged by test of the principle avri:and if she is deemd to have done wrong by the g-council, she can be removed or not re-elected. Otherwise we will need 10 volumes of g-council rules. Ray Fassett - RySG:agree with ron and avri Ron A:@ J - fully agree with your summation avri:The working on this goes too far for me. I do not think we should be offereing specific alternatives. Ray Fassett - RySG:agree with j scott Ron A:The reasoning doesn't havet to go to far into the weeds Anne Aikman-Scalese:J. Scott, Are you saying the deferral practice itself is discretionary with the Chair so the denial of a deferral is also discretionary? J. Scott Evans:Anne: Yes, picking up on Avri's point, the deferral practice is courtesy that has historically been extended at the discretion of the Chair. J. Scott Evans:And that there shoujld be no assumption that that disrection must be exercised in all cases. Ron A:Good bye all J. Scott Evans:or extended I should say Ray Fassett - RySG:thanks Wolf Wolf Knoben:Thanks all From: "KnobenW(a)telekom.de<mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de>" <KnobenW(a)telekom.de<mailto:KnobenW@telekom.de>> Date: Thursday 6 September 2012 05:53 To: Marika Konings <marika.konings(a)icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org>> Subject: SCI Hi Marika, Could you please provide us with the chat of the last SCI meeting? Thanks and Best regards Wolf-Ulrich Knoben

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REMINDER: Meeting Invitation / Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting/ Thursday 13 September at 1900 UTC
by Nathalie Peregrine Sept. 13, 2012

Sept. 13, 2012

Dear All, The Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting teleconference is scheduled on Thursday 13 September 2012 at 1900 UTC. 12:00 PDT, 15:00 EDT, 20:00 London, 21:00 CET For other places see: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SCI+Meeting&iso=20… Adobe Connect: http://icann.adobeconnect.com/standcommdraft/ Dial-in details are below. If you require a dial-out, please email me your preferred contact number. Thank you Kind regards Nathalie ____________________________________________________________________________ Participant passcode: SCI For security reasons, the passcode will be required to join the call. ____________________________________________________________________________ Dial in numbers: Country Toll Numbers Freephone/Toll Free Number ARGENTINA 0800-777-0519 AUSTRALIA ADELAIDE: 61-8-8121-4842 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA BRISBANE: 61-7-3102-0944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA CANBERRA: 61-2-6100-1944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA MELBOURNE: 61-3-9010-7713 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA PERTH: 61-8-9467-5223 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA SYDNEY: 61-2-8205-8129 1-800-657-260 AUSTRIA 43-1-92-81-113 0800-005-259 BELGIUM 32-2-400-9861 0800-3-8795 BRAZIL 0800-7610651 CHILE 1230-020-2863 CHINA* 86-400-810-4789 10800-712-1670 10800-120-1670 COLOMBIA 01800-9-156474 CZECH REPUBLIC 420-2-25-98-56-64 800-700-177 DENMARK 45-7014-0284 8088-8324 ESTONIA 800-011-1093 FINLAND Land Line: 106-33-203 0-800-9-14610 FINLAND Mobile: 09-106-33-203 0-800-9-14610 FRANCE LYON: 33-4-26-69-12-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE MARSEILLE: 33-4-86-06-00-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE PARIS: 33-1-70-70-60-72 080-511-1496 GERMANY 49-69-2222-20362 0800-664-4247 GREECE 30-80-1-100-0687 00800-12-7312 HONG KONG 852-3001-3863 800-962-856 HUNGARY 06-800-12755 INDIA 000-800-852-1268 INDONESIA 001-803-011-3982 IRELAND 353-1-246-7646 1800-992-368 ISRAEL 1-80-9216162 ITALY 39-02-3600-6007 800-986-383 JAPAN OSAKA: 81-6-7739-4799 0066-33-132439 JAPAN TOKYO: 81-3-5539-5191 0066-33-132439 LATVIA 8000-3185 LUXEMBOURG 352-27-000-1364 MALAYSIA 1-800-81-3065 MEXICO 001-866-376-9696 NETHERLANDS 31-20-718-8588 0800-023-4378 NEW ZEALAND 64-9-970-4771 0800-447-722 NORWAY 47-21-590-062 800-15157 PANAMA 011-001-800-5072065 PERU 0800-53713 PHILIPPINES 63-2-858-3716 POLAND 00-800-1212572 PORTUGAL 8008-14052 RUSSIA 8-10-8002-0144011 SINGAPORE 65-6883-9230 800-120-4663 SLOVAK REPUBLIC 421-2-322-422-25 SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-80414 SOUTH KOREA 82-2-6744-1083 00798-14800-7352 SPAIN 34-91-414-25-33 800-300-053 SWEDEN 46-8-566-19-348 0200-884-622 SWITZERLAND 41-44-580-6398 0800-120-032 TAIWAN 886-2-2795-7379 00801-137-797 THAILAND 001-800-1206-66056 UNITED KINGDOM BIRMINGHAM: 44-121-210-9025 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM GLASGOW: 44-141-202-3225 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LEEDS: 44-113-301-2125 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LONDON: 44-20-7108-6370 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM MANCHESTER: 44-161-601-1425 0808-238-6029 URUGUAY 000-413-598-3421 USA 1-517-345-9004 866-692-5726 VENEZUELA 0800-1-00-3702 *Access to your conference call will be either of the numbers listed, dependent on the participants' local telecom provider. Restrictions may exist when accessing freephone/toll free numbers using a mobile telephone. ---------------------------- Nathalie Peregrine GNSO Secretariat Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)

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SCI meeting
by KnobenW＠telekom.de Sept. 12, 2012

Sept. 12, 2012

All: Please find the following agenda for the call tomorrow: 1. Roll call 2. Statement of Interests 3. Approval of the agenda 4. Short update on council action 5. Continuing discussion (and suggested solutions) on - Deferral of Motions J. Scott 's suggestion - Voting Thresholds for Delaying a PDP (see proposed language on list) Update on Team Work 7. Raising an issue - Has this been sufficiently clarified - currently needs to come from g-council or from a WG 8. Status update on Working Group survey 9. AOB Best regards Wolf-Ulrich

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Meeting Invitation / Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting/ Thursday 13 September at 1900 UTC
by Nathalie Peregrine Sept. 6, 2012

Sept. 6, 2012

Dear All, The Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting teleconference is scheduled on Thursday 13 September 2012 at 1900 UTC. 12:00 PDT, 15:00 EDT, 20:00 London, 21:00 CET For other places see: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SCI+Meeting&iso=20… Adobe Connect: http://icann.adobeconnect.com/standcommdraft/ Dial-in details are below. If you require a dial-out, please email me your preferred contact number. Thank you Kind regards Nathalie ____________________________________________________________________________ Participant passcode: SCI For security reasons, the passcode will be required to join the call. ____________________________________________________________________________ Dial in numbers: Country Toll Numbers Freephone/Toll Free Number ARGENTINA 0800-777-0519 AUSTRALIA ADELAIDE: 61-8-8121-4842 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA BRISBANE: 61-7-3102-0944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA CANBERRA: 61-2-6100-1944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA MELBOURNE: 61-3-9010-7713 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA PERTH: 61-8-9467-5223 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA SYDNEY: 61-2-8205-8129 1-800-657-260 AUSTRIA 43-1-92-81-113 0800-005-259 BELGIUM 32-2-400-9861 0800-3-8795 BRAZIL 0800-7610651 CHILE 1230-020-2863 CHINA* 86-400-810-4789 10800-712-1670 10800-120-1670 COLOMBIA 01800-9-156474 CZECH REPUBLIC 420-2-25-98-56-64 800-700-177 DENMARK 45-7014-0284 8088-8324 ESTONIA 800-011-1093 FINLAND Land Line: 106-33-203 0-800-9-14610 FINLAND Mobile: 09-106-33-203 0-800-9-14610 FRANCE LYON: 33-4-26-69-12-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE MARSEILLE: 33-4-86-06-00-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE PARIS: 33-1-70-70-60-72 080-511-1496 GERMANY 49-69-2222-20362 0800-664-4247 GREECE 30-80-1-100-0687 00800-12-7312 HONG KONG 852-3001-3863 800-962-856 HUNGARY 06-800-12755 INDIA 000-800-852-1268 INDONESIA 001-803-011-3982 IRELAND 353-1-246-7646 1800-992-368 ISRAEL 1-80-9216162 ITALY 39-02-3600-6007 800-986-383 JAPAN OSAKA: 81-6-7739-4799 0066-33-132439 JAPAN TOKYO: 81-3-5539-5191 0066-33-132439 LATVIA 8000-3185 LUXEMBOURG 352-27-000-1364 MALAYSIA 1-800-81-3065 MEXICO 001-866-376-9696 NETHERLANDS 31-20-718-8588 0800-023-4378 NEW ZEALAND 64-9-970-4771 0800-447-722 NORWAY 47-21-590-062 800-15157 PANAMA 011-001-800-5072065 PERU 0800-53713 PHILIPPINES 63-2-858-3716 POLAND 00-800-1212572 PORTUGAL 8008-14052 RUSSIA 8-10-8002-0144011 SINGAPORE 65-6883-9230 800-120-4663 SLOVAK REPUBLIC 421-2-322-422-25 SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-80414 SOUTH KOREA 82-2-6744-1083 00798-14800-7352 SPAIN 34-91-414-25-33 800-300-053 SWEDEN 46-8-566-19-348 0200-884-622 SWITZERLAND 41-44-580-6398 0800-120-032 TAIWAN 886-2-2795-7379 00801-137-797 THAILAND 001-800-1206-66056 UNITED KINGDOM BIRMINGHAM: 44-121-210-9025 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM GLASGOW: 44-141-202-3225 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LEEDS: 44-113-301-2125 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LONDON: 44-20-7108-6370 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM MANCHESTER: 44-161-601-1425 0808-238-6029 URUGUAY 000-413-598-3421 USA 1-517-345-9004 866-692-5726 VENEZUELA 0800-1-00-3702 *Access to your conference call will be either of the numbers listed, dependent on the participants' local telecom provider. Restrictions may exist when accessing freephone/toll free numbers using a mobile telephone. ---------------------------- Nathalie Peregrine GNSO Secretariat Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)

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Proposed language to address suspending a PDP
by Marika Konings Sept. 6, 2012

Sept. 6, 2012

Dear All, Following on from the last meeting, please find hereby the proposed language to be added to the PDP Manual to address suspending a PDP after initiation: The GNSO Council may terminate or suspend* a PDP prior to the publication of a Final Report only for significant cause, upon a motion that passes with a Supermajority Vote in favour of termination or suspension. The following are illustrative examples of possible reasons for a premature termination or suspension of a PDP: 1. Deadlock. The PDP Team is hopelessly deadlocked and unable to identify recommendations or statements that have either the strong support or a consensus of its members despite significant time and resources being dedicated to the PDP; 2. Changing Circumstances. Events have occurred since the initiation of the PDP that have rendered the PDP moot, or no longer necessary, or warranting a suspension; or 3. Lack of Community Volunteers. Despite several calls for participation, the work of the PDP Team is significantly impaired and unable to effectively conclude its deliberations due to lack of volunteer participation. * Suspension is a time interval during which there is a temporary cessation of the PDP, i.e. all activities are halted upon a decision of the GNSO Council until further notice. This would be a modification of the current language of section 15 of the PDP manual (modified language in bold). Looking forward to receiving your feedback. With best regards, Marika

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Deferral of motions
by KnobenW＠telekom.de Sept. 6, 2012

Sept. 6, 2012

All, I wanted to follow-up on the level of what seemed to be a common opinion how to handle deferrals in future. Fortunately J. Scott took over to draft a text for a related SCI recommendation. To my understanding it would be helpful to describe clearly the "safety valve" you mentioned as well as using the words "courtesy" and "discretion of the chair" in the right context. I attach the related transscript part from our meeting - hoping it can be of assistance: ... J. Scott Evans: I think I can handle Avri's concern regarding codification because my suggestion is not that we state anything. I think what we would say is our recommendation is that the practice would stay as it is currently and that it be looked at by staff. And if, you know, to be raised at another time if there's abuse or something to that effect. But in our reasoning we would state that the reason we have left it the same is we believe that there is a safety valve because this is a organic process that developed as a courtesy under the discretion of the chair. Okay? And that that - there is nothing that prescribes the chair in its - in his or her discretion from denying this type of courtesy. And that can either be done at the chair's own behest or another mechanism, for example, putting it to a vote of the Council. But not to put that in some sort of rules but to put that in our reasoning to say we believe the safety valve is already there. But I think we need to clearly annunciate what that safety valve is so that a chair can say well this has been looked at and I'm going to exercise the discretion that everyone - the community has agreed that I have in this instance and I'm going to proceed as X. So that's - I'm not talking about making a rule; I'm just talking about somehow putting in there a reasoning that - picking up on Avri's point. It's in the discretion; okay well tell them that's the reason we're leaving it the way it is. Don't have it out there so people assume because I do believe Stéphane believed his hands were tied and he didn't have a discretion to do anything else. And if we believe it's within his discretion then I think we need to tell the community that's what we think. Wolf-Ulrich Knoben: Yes. J. Scott Evans: I don't think it has to be any heavy-handed rule. Wolf-Ulrich Knoben: Thank you, J. Scott. Well I - what I've seen here right now in the chat is, well, agreement from Ray, from Ron. I think Avri is raising her hand. I would - if that is possible - and I would appreciate if you - could you write down some - in some small sentence, right, what you have said. So - and provide it on the list to us so that we can see that reasoning in written form. So - and then we have a chance, well, maybe that we can come on - oh, thank you very much - you agree. Thanks very much. Avri. Avri Doria: Yeah, the only thing I wanted to say is if we stop at this is a courtesy given at the discretion of the chair, period, I can live with that. Once we start going further and saying and she can defer it and she can do a vote or she could then I start to have issues in that we're starting to make rules. If we say in our reason this is originally a courtesy; this remains a courtesy except in PDPs at the, you know, at the discretion of the chair and just leave it at that without trying to push the chair one way or another. ... Mit freundlichen Grüßen Best regards Wolf-Ulrich Knoben Deutsche Telekom AG Service Headquarters Wolf-Ulrich Knoben Godesberger Allee 99, 53175 Bonn, Germany +49 2244 873999 (Phone) +49 2244 873955 (Fax) +49 151 1452 5867 (Mobile) E-Mail: knobenw(a)telekom.de<mailto:knobenw@telekom.de> www.telekom.com<http://www.telekom.com> Life is for sharing. Deutsche Telekom AG Supervisory Board: Prof. Dr. Ulrich Lehner (Chairman) Board of Management: René Obermann (Chairman), Reinhard Clemens, Niek Jan van Damme, Timotheus Höttges, Dr. Thomas Kremer, Claudia Nemat, Prof. Dr. Marion Schick Commercial register: Amtsgericht Bonn HRB 6794 Registered office: Bonn WEEE reg. no. DE50478376 Big changes start small - conserve resources by not printing every e-mail.

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