June 2007 - NA-Discuss - lists.icann.org

Termination date in the MoU
by Wendy Seltzer June 24, 2007

June 24, 2007

I'd recommend leaving the termination date because it's useful to be forced to re-examine whether the status quo is still the best option. Otherwise, the inertia of stasis tends to block change (see WHOIS). --Wendy On 6/23/07, Thompson, Darlene <DThompson(a)gov.nu.ca> wrote: >Here are my comments, for what they are worth: > >Page 3, Footnote: Why would we WANT to move the onus of this from ICANN to >the NARALO. Its not that I am necessarily opposed to this, I'm just >wondering. > > >Page 3, Line 29 - Change the period to a semi-colon. > > > >Page 5, Line 30 - Ending date of the agreement - I had thought that Nick (or >somebody) suggested that we don't need that line as either party can cancel >within 120 days. Its redundant. > > > >And that's it. > > > >Darlene > >Sitting in Newark airport as didn't make connection yesterday evening > >Air Canada is actually starting to look good compared to Continental (and >that's BAAAAAAD) > >Should arrive San Juan at 11:05 > > >________________________________ > >From: na-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of Bret Fausett >Sent: Fri 6/22/2007 7:43 PM >To: NA Discuss >Subject: [NA-Discuss] Chair's Draft of MOU (Action Item) > > > >Dear Colleagues, > >After reviewing the wiki updates over the last few weeks (Thanks, >Darlene!) and the comments both on the list and on our two conference >calls, I've tried to distill the comments into the attached "Chair's >Draft." The document is in PDF format, converted from a Word >document, and has line numbers next to all of the text. I personally >find it helpful to have final discussions around words in documents >when we can reference page and line numbers from a fixed common draft. > >I would ask you each to review the draft and, when you have >additions, deletions or revisions, reference the language you're >addressing by its page and line number. For example, "Can we change >the word 'shall' on Page 2, line 24 to 'will'...." > >Nick, can you arrange to have copies of this printed for everyone who >will be in San Juan? > >Many thanks everyone. > > Bret > > > > > > -- -- Wendy Seltzer - wendy(a)seltzer.com cell: 914.374.0613 Visiting Professor, Brooklyn Law School Fellow, Berkman Center for Internet & Society ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Wendy Seltzer -- wendy(a)seltzer.com Visiting Fellow, Oxford Internet Institute Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard Law School http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/seltzer.html Chilling Effects: http://www.chillingeffects.org/

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NARALO meeting is now going on
by Jacqueline A. Morris June 24, 2007

June 24, 2007

Chat room at HYPERLINK "http://sanjuan2007.icann.org/node/11"http://sanjuan2007.icann.org/node/11 Call in directions were sent out by Nick to the list earlier, and are also on the wiki at HYPERLINK "https://st.icann.org/naralo/index.cgi?24_june_2007"https://st.icann.org/nar alo/index.cgi?24_june_2007 They are now on the rules of procedure for the meeting. Luc Faubert was chosen Meeting Chair in Bret’s absence. Jacqueline No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/863 - Release Date: 6/23/2007 11:08 AM

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All NARALos are invited to eat at Bebos at 1900 Saturday the 23rd (or any other AlAs)
by Eduardo Diaz June 24, 2007

June 24, 2007

-----Original Message----- From: Jacob Malthouse [mailto:Jacob.Malthouse@icann.org] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 6:43 PM To: ediaz(a)dconsultinggroup.com Subject: Re: could you make a reservation at bebos for sat at 1900?what do you think? is that good time? Right on. -----Original Message----- Please let me know if interested. They do not take reservations but I called them today and they said that if we call half hour before getting there they can set-up something for us. This is the link in case you are wondering what is Bebos. Cheap, good quality criollo food. http://www.fodors.com/miniguides/mgresults.cfm?destination=puerto_rico@125&c ur_section=din&property_id=404160 http://travel.nytimes.com/travel/guides/caribbean-and-bermuda/puerto-rico/sa n-juan/restaurant-detail.html?vid=1154672275202 After dinner you can head to the Caribe Hilton with your swimsuits. Saturday night is "Noche de San Juan" (san Juan Bautista night) and all Puerto Rico jumps in the water at 12 midnight for a good swim and good luck. See more info about this local custom here: http://www.experiencepuertorico.com/pr.html?secc=special&sub=focuson See you all in Puerto Rico. And have a safe trip. Eduardo ISOCPR -----Original Message----- From: Jacob Malthouse [mailto:jacob.malthouse@icann.org] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 5:25 PM To: ediaz(a)dconsultinggroup.com Subject: Re: could you make a reservation at bebos for sat at 1900? what do you think? is that good time? not sure. maybe send an email asking who would like to come?

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Chair's Draft of MOU (Action Item)
by Bret Fausett June 23, 2007

June 23, 2007

Dear Colleagues, After reviewing the wiki updates over the last few weeks (Thanks, Darlene!) and the comments both on the list and on our two conference calls, I've tried to distill the comments into the attached "Chair's Draft." The document is in PDF format, converted from a Word document, and has line numbers next to all of the text. I personally find it helpful to have final discussions around words in documents when we can reference page and line numbers from a fixed common draft. I would ask you each to review the draft and, when you have additions, deletions or revisions, reference the language you're addressing by its page and line number. For example, "Can we change the word 'shall' on Page 2, line 24 to 'will'...." Nick, can you arrange to have copies of this printed for everyone who will be in San Juan? Many thanks everyone. Bret

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Fwd: Auto-discard notification
by Nick Ashton-Hart June 23, 2007

June 23, 2007

Think Evan used an address that is not subscribed to the list for this message. Begin forwarded message: > From: na-discuss-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Date: 22 June 2007 16:16:12 GMT-04:00 > To: na-discuss-owner(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Auto-discard notification > > The attached message has been automatically discarded. > From: evanl(a)starnix.com > Date: 22 June 2007 16:16:12 GMT-04:00 > To: "Thompson, Darlene" <DThompson(a)gov.nu.ca> > Cc: "NA Discuss" <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Subject: RE: [NA-Discuss] Fwd: [NA-ALS] Call for Statements of > Interest | NA RALO Seats on ALAC > > >> Evan, I believe that we *have* ratified the OP and Code of >> Conduct. That >> didn't need to be approved by ICANN staff as it was the NARALO >> Operating >> Principals and Code of Conduct and ICANN has no say in same. The >> MOU is >> totally different as it is an agreement between the NARALO and ICANN. > > OK, that makes sense. I sit corrected. > > - Evan > > > > -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom Main Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011] USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Acting Chair for San Juan
by Nick Ashton-Hart June 23, 2007

June 23, 2007

This got caught in the spam filters somehow. > From: Bret Fausett <fausett(a)lextext.com> > Date: 23 June 2007 17:39:13 GMT+02:00 > To: NA Discuss <na-discuss(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Subject: Acting Chair for San Juan > > > Dear Colleagues, > > As I will not be able to join you in person in San Juan -- though I > do intend to participate by iChat (bret(a)mac.com) and Skype > (lextext) and through such other remote access opportunities as > ICANN may provide -- I would like to ask Luc Faubert to act as > Chair of the NARALO in person meetings this week. Luc has been > involved in the NARALO formation efforts since the beginning, and > he knows ICANN and its processes very well. Luc, I hope you are > willing to fill this role this week, and I would ask everyone to > give Luc the same support you've given me over the past two months. > > To paraphrase Vint, I'll see you on the 'net. > > -- Bret > > > -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN PO Box 32160 London N4 2XY United Kingdom Main Tel: +44 (20) 8800-1011] USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +44 (20) 7681-3135 mobile: +44 (7774) 932798 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Acting Chair for San Juan
by Bret Fausett June 23, 2007

June 23, 2007

Dear Colleagues, As I will not be able to join you in person in San Juan -- though I do intend to participate by iChat (bret(a)mac.com) and Skype (lextext) and through such other remote access opportunities as ICANN may provide -- I would like to ask Luc Faubert to act as Chair of the NARALO in person meetings this week. Luc has been involved in the NARALO formation efforts since the beginning, and he knows ICANN and its processes very well. Luc, I hope you are willing to fill this role this week, and I would ask everyone to give Luc the same support you've given me over the past two months. To paraphrase Vint, I'll see you on the 'net. -- Bret

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schedules and etiquette
by Evan Leibovitch June 23, 2007

June 23, 2007

Hi, As an ICANN-meeting virgin I have some questions: 1) What's the dress convention? That is, I expect that many meetings will be informal (given the temps in June I expect they will NEED to be casual), but how much -- if any -- of the conference is typically suit-and-tie formal? 2) Have Jacob or Nick planned any kind of orientation for newcomers? Tossing us unprepared into a den of bureaucracy and power struggles does not serve our constituencies -- or the RALO process. Some informal sessions on "ICANN Culture" would be extremely helpful, as I imagine that only a shred of the nuances and realities can be expressed well in (publicly archived :-) ) email. This would be a great opportunity for the veterans of this list to help us newcomers understand why they're so damned cynical. :-) As it is we'll be missing the generic "orientation round table" because that conflicts with the all-day NARALO meeting on the 24th. Please can we have this? If room availability is a problem, let's take it to a restaurant or something. This element of the meeting is as important to me as many of the other parts. However, if I'm the only one interested in this, never mind... 3) In the full schedule at http://sanjuan2007.icann.org/schedule/ I note that some meetings are explicitly listed as closed, yet some are explicitly listed as open. To what part of this schedule do we common ALS folk have access? - Evan

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Fwd: Candidate Statement - Beau Brendler
by Bret Fausett June 23, 2007

June 23, 2007

I am very pleased to forward Beau Brendler's candidate statement for one of the two ALAC seats from North America. Mr. Brendler is currently in transit to the Puerto Rico meeting and intends to seek guidance from staff about the sorts of things, if any, that belong in his conflict of interest statement. Bret Begin forwarded message: > a) Your name: first name, FAMILY NAME (in capital letters) > > Beau BRENDLER > > (b) Your e-mail address. > > brenbe(a)consumer.org (work) > beaubrendler(a)earthlink.net (home) > > (c) Your telephone number(s) and/or Skype/Yahoo!/Mac or other VOIP or > Audio Chat ID. > > (914) 378-2018 (work) > (845) 878-7031 (home) > > (d) Your country of citizenship. If you hold multiple citizenships > please state all. > > USA > > > (e) Your city and country of residence and your preferred mailing > address. > > Patterson, New York, USA. (residence) > > Mailing address, work: > > Consumer Reports WebWatch > 101 Truman Avenue > Yonkers, New York 10703 > > (f) Education and professional background. Summarize your educational > background, such as degrees achieved and the university(s) where you > studied, and the three most recent places of employment and positions > held. > > B.A. journalism, Gonzaga University, Spokane, Wash., 1986 > > Consumers Union: Consumer Reports WebWatch Director, May 2001-present > ABC News: Editorial Director, ABCNEWS.com, December '96-March '01 > Washington Post: News/Managing Editor, PoliticsNow and Politics USA > (joint venture with ABC News, National Journal and W. Post) October > '94 > -December '96 > > Bio: > http://www.consumerwebwatch.org/dynamic/beau-brendler.cfm > > (g) Internet Involvement and Interest in ICANN. Help us understand the > skills and experience you would bring to the ALAC and how you would > help > the ALAC achieve its mission. > > I've only just begun, but would look forward to helping advise > ICANN in > the most useful ways possible, representing the 7.5 million > consumers in > Consumer Reports' constituency. We also work in coordination with a > number of consumer organizations in the U.S. and around the world. >

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Status of Vote | Call for Additional Votes
by Bret Fausett June 23, 2007

June 23, 2007

Dear Colleagues, As you may know, our Operating Principles require an affirmative vote of 70% of the accredited ALSs from North America to become operational. Prior to today's announcement, we were just one vote short of the 70% requirement. Since the vote is still open -- and will continue to be open until we have either 70% approval or 30% rejection -- I believe we should look for 70% of the new total of ALSs. I understand from Nick that the new organizations have been following the discussions. I hope they will be in a position to vote as soon as possible. For those of you who abstained because you did not have time to review the documents, please take the time today, this weekend, or as soon as you are able, to review the documents again. We would like you to consider changing your abstention into either an express approval or disapproval of the Operating Procedures and Code of Conduct. (Links in footer below). If you haven't yet voted, all you need to do to vote is send a message to the "official" North American list at na-als(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org identifying yourself, your organization, and saying "yes," "no," or "abstain" with regard to the (1) Operating Procedures, and (2) Code of Conduct. If you could copy me at bfausett (at) internet.law.pro, I would be grateful. Please let me know if you have any questions. We are almost there! Bret

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