January 2017 - Ccwg-auctionproceeds

New gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG
by Dietmar Stefitz 01 Feb '17

01 Feb '17

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CCWG Repository of Input
by Marika Konings 31 Jan '17

31 Jan '17

Dear All, Per action item #2, please find hereby the link to the repository that is intended to collect the input from members and participants on the charter questions. Note that a first priority is to develop the CCWG’s work plan before diving into deliberations, but for those of you that want to already put your thoughts on paper, you can do so by adding to the google doc which can be found at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QN7zarCr2c-2BVv3pfa6Z5O10pDcgHSIQ5Q3CBd…. For now I’ve included the input provided by Daniel as well as some of the comments that were made in response to his input. However, going forward, please clearly indicate if input you provide on the mailing list is intended to be added to the document as otherwise it may become difficult to keep track. For those that are unfamiliar with Google docs, you may find the following introduction of interest: https://gsuite.google.com/learning-center/products/docs/get-started/. As I myself am pretty new to Google docs, I hope you bear with me as I try to make sure the settings are correct. For this document, everyone should be able to edit. Of course, please make sure that you do not edit the entries of others. For those that still may not feel comfortable or do not have access to Google docs, you will also find attached a word version that you may add to. Best regards, Marika

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Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Input on Questions
by Seun Ojedeji 30 Jan '17

30 Jan '17

Hello, I think dedicating a department just to manage the auction proceed seem like an overkill since this won't be a continuous event. A mechanism that allows staff (GSE dept for instance) to this as a project item and manage the funds based on the guidelines developed by this group should just do. Regards Sent from my LG G4 Kindly excuse brevity and typos On Jan 30, 2017 14:39, "Ching Chiao" <chiao(a)brandma.co> wrote: Thank you Alan and Elliot for making these important comments. If we took a step back and ask ICANN -- if they simply keep this extraordinary income (generated from auctions, donations, or other means), what are the financial and cost consequences? Can the money be spend thru existing ICANN mechanism or would it be better to donate , or to spend via a separate ICANN-run entity ? I think the idea of "sunset" is worthy of discussion -- what are the triggering facts (time, fund size, Board decision) and how the community could benefit from it. -- Ching (speaking as individual member) On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 2:08 AM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> wrote: > Fine. as long as it can be overridden should conditions make that > desireable. > > I'm old enough to have seen lots of things that the math did not predict... > > Alan > -- > Sent from my mobile. Please excuse brevity and typos. > > On January 29, 2017 12:36:12 PM EST, elliot noss <enoss(a)tucows.com> wrote: >> >> While all that is true, simply given the math, the structure (first round = most desirable) and the market conditions, this round will be singular in size/scale. Using what we do as a model is never precluded, but what is important is to bake sunsetting into any structure we use. >> >> EN >> >> On Jan 29, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Elliot, >>> >>> I tend to agree with you with one caveat. There are a lot of unknowns regarding future gTLDs: >>> >>> - There *may* ba another round or rounds; >>> - There *may* be auctions >>> - Any such auctions *may* have their proceeds designated for uses similar to in the first round. >>> >>> All of these would be the result of GNSO PDP(s) and Board action, and are out of scope for us, regardless of whether we think any or all of this would be good (and I am not advocating any of this here). >>> >>> If all of those were to come to be, then the process we are developing *may* be applicable (again, a decision WAY out of our scope). Nothing that we do should REQUIRE that we must start all over again and re-invent this in such a situation. >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> >>> >>> At 29/01/2017 10:25 AM, elliot noss wrote: >>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> First, I wish to apologize for not being on the call. It has been a crazy couple of weeks as some of you know. >>>> >>>> Second, I wish to thank Daniel Dardailler for the excellent summary suggestions below. I agree with almost all of them. There is one place where I would like to add a thought for greater clarity. >>>> >>>> One of the two most important things to me in this process is that we recognize that this is a singular opportunity both in scope and in nature. While there may be other opportunities for ICANN to actively dispense money (I personally think a lower budget and annual surplus should be the norm but >>>> >>> ..), tthey are >>> >>>> not currently part of the process and I have great fear of institutionalizing an â?oICANN Charityâ? . We are looking at a singular event, which is auction excess in the first round of open applications ever. >>>> >>>> Any structure(s) we create should naturally sunset. This informs both the setup and the rules for disbursement and productively simplifies both. >>>> >>>> I know we will all have lots of opportunity to discuss this, and all other matters but I did want to interject this at this point. Thank you. >>>> >>>> EN >>>> >>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list > Ccwg-auctionproceeds(a)icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds > -- Ching Chiao Founder & CEO Brandma Internet Group 中域国际集团 www.brandma.com +886.918.211372 <+886%20918%20211%20372> || +86.135.2018.7032 <+86%20135%202018%207032> || +1.908.4990050 <+1%20908-499-0050> Beijing . Chengdu . Hangzhou . Hong Kong . Shenzhen. Taipei _______________________________________________ Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list Ccwg-auctionproceeds(a)icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds

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Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Input on Questions
by Alan Greenberg 30 Jan '17

30 Jan '17

Hi Elliot, I tend to agree with you with one caveat. There are a lot of unknowns regarding future gTLDs: - There *may* ba another round or rounds; - There *may* be auctions - Any such auctions *may* have their proceeds designated for uses similar to in the first round. All of these would be the result of GNSO PDP(s) and Board action, and are out of scope for us, regardless of whether we think any or all of this would be good (and I am not advocating any of this here). If all of those were to come to be, then the process we are developing *may* be applicable (again, a decision WAY out of our scope). Nothing that we do should REQUIRE that we must start all over again and re-invent this in such a situation. Alan At 29/01/2017 10:25 AM, elliot noss wrote: >Hello all, > > First, I wish to apologize for not being on > the call. It has been a crazy couple of weeks as some of you know. > >Second, I wish to thank Daniel Dardailler for >the excellent summary suggestions below. I agree >with almost all of them. There is one place >where I would like to add a thought for greater clarity. > >One of the two most important things to me in >this process is that we recognize that this is a >singular opportunity both in scope and in >nature. While there may be other opportunities >for ICANN to actively dispense money (I >personally think a lower budget and annual >surplus should be the norm but..), tthey are >not currently part of the process and I have >great fear of institutionalizing an âICANN >Charityâ. We are looking at a singular event, >which is auction excess in the first round of open applications ever. > >Any structure(s) we create should naturally >sunset. This informs both the setup and the >rules for disbursement and productively simplifies both. > >I know we will all have lots of opportunity to >discuss this, and all other matters but I did >want to interject this at this point. Thank you. > >EN

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Notes and action items from today's new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG
by Marika Konings 29 Jan '17

29 Jan '17

Dear All, Please find below the notes and action items from today’s meeting. The next meeting will be scheduled for Thursday 9 February at 15.00 UTC for 90 minutes. Best regards, Marika Notes - 26 January 2017 CCWG Auction Proceeds These high-level notes are designed to help PDP WG members navigate through the content of the call and are not meant as a substitute for the transcript and/or recording. The MP3, transcript, and chat are provided separately and are posted on the wiki at: https://community.icann.org/x/D7HDAw. 1. Roll Call · Attendance will be taken from Adobe Connect · This WG has members, participants and observers. Only members and participants are invited to calls. The call details are circulated on a non-archived mailing list (ntyf). Please do not circulate these details. Should you want to change your status from observer to participant, please contact gnso-secs(a)icann.org. · Please remember to mute your microphone when not speaking. 2. Welcome & Introductions · Get to know each other via participation or possible an in person meeting at a future ICANN meeting. Feel free to reach out to staff or raising your hands if you have any questions. · If you want to speak, please use the raising hand feature in Adobe Connect. · Staff support for this effort will be provided by Marika Konings (GNSO), Joke Braeken (ccNSO) and Nathalie Peregrine (SO/AC Support Team). · Two Board liaisons have been appointed to this effort (Asha Hemrajani and Becky Burr) as the Board has fiduciary responsibilities. Expected to be a go between the CCWG and Board to highlight any concerns or questions the CCWG and/or Board may have. · Samantha Eisner (deputy legal Counsel, ICANN) will continue in the role of staff liaison/advisor, similar to the support she provided in the drafting team by advising on ICANN's legal and fiduciary responsibilities. · Lauren Allison is providing internal support to ICANN org on this topic and is also expected to join this call on a regular basis. · CCWG should be comfortable with this level of staff support provided - if there are any concerns, these should be flagged. High level principles of operation of CCWGs: · CCWG will be lead and co-ordinated by the co-chairs appointed by the Chartering Organizations. To date, the GNSO and ccNSO have appointed a co-chair (Jonathan Robinson - GNSO, Ching Chiao - ccNSO). · Leadership team meets prior to the meeting to prepare the agenda and prep for the meeting. · CCWG is expected to work as a collaborative unit - need to excercise discipline. · Members are appointed by chartering organization and serve a specific liaison role. · Participants participate in the same way as members do, the only difference may be if there is a need for a consensus call (noting that the leadership will do its best to avoid the need for any votes). · Observers can follow the discussions on the mailing list, but are not invited to join calls. · All members and participants are required to complete a statement of interest and a declaration of interest. · If after a number of reminders you have not completed your SOI or DOI your status will be downgraded to observer until you have completed the required statements. · For more information about the practical workings of Adobe Connect, wiki, etc., please review the communication tools webinar (see https://participate.icann.org/p830qbsrcot/) · Is there anything as "good standing" for CCWG members/participants similar to https://www.w3.org/2004/02/Process-20040205/groups.html#good-standing? No, not currently, only requirements are SOI and DOI. 3. Update on CO membership appointments and chairs · Still awaiting appointments from the ASO, ALAC and GAC - these are forthcoming · All have confirmed their participation and adoption of the charter. · The ccNSO Council has appointed Ching as an interim co-chair - the Council will revisit its decision during ICANN59 whether it will officially appoint a co-chair to this group, and if so, whether it is Ching or someone else. 4. Review CCWG charter · See slides circulated (https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/63156495/new%20gTLD%20Auct…) 5. Discuss what information and/or preparation is needed to start developing work plan · What briefing / input is needed? For example, should another briefing on the legal and fiduciary constraints be provided? Any other information / expertise that will be required? · What preparations / inputs are needed prior to developing the work plan? · Determine what expertise is available in the CCWG. Consider surveying the CCWG to determine what expertise is available in the CCWG to see what expertise may be missing. · CCWG will need to give consideration as part of its deliberations to local/global nature of mechanism recommended. · Need briefings from people that do this as part of their daily jobs to get further insights into best practices. Need to avoid reinventing the wheel so important to benefit from those that have expertise in this area. Note a number of suggestions and offers made in the chat. Develop a list of possible organisations to invite / speak to at the outset. · Create two documents: table of expertise of CCWG members - individuals can add to this (proposer, expertise). Create document to start ad-hoc thinking about the questions. Action item #1: Start building list of prospective individuals / organizations that could provide input and expertise at the outset of the CCWG deliberations Action item #2: Staff to develop draft table of expertise for CCWG completion and start ad-hoc document which will allow CCWG members/participants to share thinking about charter questions. 6. Discuss proposed timing, duration and frequency of meetings · Factoring in time zone spread of CCWG members and participants, suggests that a single time slot of 15.00 UTC may work for most. If this does not work, may need to consider alternatives, including rotation. · Proposed to continue on Thursdays, for 90 minutes, every two weeks. · For ICANN58, staff will be requesting a slot on Wednesday from 15.15-16.45 local time for the CCWG. CCWG can decide at a later date whether you want to use this slot or not. 7. AOB 8. Confirm next steps & time / date for next meeting · 9 February at 15.00 UTC for 90 minutes Marika Konings Senior Policy Director & Team Leader for the GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: marika.konings(a)icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org> Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses<http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso> and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages<http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-…>.

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With attachment Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat for CCWG Auction Proceeds on 26 January 2017
by Nathalie Peregrine 27 Jan '17

27 Jan '17

Dear all, Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email and the MP3 recording below for the CCWG Auction Proceeds call held on Thursday, 26 January 2017 at 15:00 UTC. Mp3: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-auction-proceeds-26jan17-en.mp3[m…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mailer.samanage.com_wf_…> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar[gnso.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_group…> ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ccwg-auctionproceeds/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/yJXDAw[community.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_…> Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie Peregrine ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Thursday, 26 January 2017 Nathalie Peregrine: (1/26/2017 06:46) Dear all, welcome to the new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG call on Thursday 26 January 2017 Waudo: (06:55) Hi all. I am logging in briefly just to chekc that its possible - I have to leave for the airport. I tried sending email to the list but received message that the message was not succesfully delivered. I request staff to check. Thanks. Julf Helsingius (GNSO NCPH NCA): (06:55) Did you hear me? Jacob Odame-Baiden: (06:55) Hello this is Jacob from Ghana agnoun basso: (06:55) hello everybody Marika Konings: (06:56) @Waudo - please make sure that you are not responding to the ntyf mailing list as CCWG members/participants do not have posting rights to the list (it is only used for sending call details) hadia.elminiawi: (06:56) Hi all, glad to join you today Marika Konings: (06:56) To send apologies or request a dial-out for future meetings, you can always contact gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> Denis Munene Mwaniki 2: (06:56) hello everyone Asha Hemrajani: (06:57) Good evening from Singapore Ching Chiao: (06:57) Hi everyone! Marc Gauw: (06:57) Hi there Carlos Dionisio Aguirre: (06:58) good morning from Argentina Nathalie Peregrine: (06:59) Welcome everyone! Denis Munene Mwaniki: (06:59) good evening from Kenya Jonathan Robinson: (07:00) Just dialing in to be sure of connection James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:00) Morning/Afternoon/Evening everyone Marika Konings: (07:00) For roll call purposes, please also use your last name when logging into Adobe Connect (you can update your info by using the drop down menu in this pod) judith hellerstein: (07:01) Hi all Vanda Scartezini: (07:01) Hi, all. I'm in a very noisy environment. I'll keep myself mute. Apologies Julf Helsingius (GNSO NCPH NCA): (07:01) This seems to be a very popular group.... Marika Konings: (07:01) Thank you Vanda James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:02) @Marika: Stephanie sends her apologies, she is on a panel with the data protection officers at CPDP right now unfortunately. Alan Greenberg: (07:02) dead air Marika Konings: (07:02) Thanks, James, noted Marika Konings: (07:03) Please mute your microphones when not speaking Nadira ALARAJ: (07:04) I'm connected through the Adobe room Mary Uduma: (07:05) Hello All. Nathalie Peregrine: (07:07) Welcome all Glenn McKnight: (07:08) Howdy Nathalie Peregrine: (07:11) GNSO SO/AC support email address: gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> for requests, questions, dial outs, apologies, questions about membership status Erika Mann: (07:20) Erika Mann - Joined the call! Marika Konings: (07:20) Please note that if after a number of reminders you have not completed your SOI or DOI your status will be downgraded to observer until you have completed the required statements. James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:20) Hey Erica! Nice to see you still here =) Erika Mann: (07:20) Hi James! Asha Hemrajani: (07:21) Hello Erika, how nice to see you here! Erika Mann: (07:21) Hi Asha! Marika Konings: (07:22) @Daniel - please activate your microphone in Adobe Connect. Daniel Dardailler: (07:22) my mike seems dead.. Marika Konings: (07:22) Can we assist you with a dial-out? Daniel Dardailler: (07:23) my question was related to the concept of "good standing" in a WG, when it comes to voting (rare but important when it happens) Daniel Dardailler: (07:23) is there such a concept within ICANN/GNSO group ? Tom Dale (ACIG GAC Secretariat): (07:24) The GAC hopes to be able to advise its nominated members by the end of next week. Nathalie Peregrine: (07:24) Recording of the Communication Tools classroom (tips and tricks of the tools used to communicate in CCWGs): https://participate.icann.org/p830qbsrcot/ Daniel Dardailler: (07:25) e.g. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.w3.org_2004_02_Pro… James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:26) Johnathan or staff can confirm but for the members as per the charter we have not defined such standing Daniel Jonathan Robinson: (07:27) Thanks James. Yes, no such defintion exists as such. Save for SOI + DOI required. Jonathan Robinson: (07:27) Also, committment to behavioural norms as per ICANN rules on "respectful particpation" or simialr Daniel Dardailler: (07:28) ok thx James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:28) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resource… Daniel Dardailler: (07:28) we actually use more the concept of "active participant" when measuring groups James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:30) I think its super impotrant to note that voting will most likely never happen, we managed to make it through pretty much the entire restructuring and accountability exercise of the IANA transition without having to do so (Under Johnathans leadership for a large chunk of that too) I dont see this as being any different I ope Becky Burr: (07:36) That ultimate responsibility is required to ensure compliance with fiduciary obligations, particularly with respect to compliance with laws and regulations applicable to non-profits Julf Helsingius (GNSO NCPH NCA): (07:38) And "reasonable", "typical" and "best practice" will be very different in terms of efficiency judith hellerstein: (07:38) To be #10 would be could the fellowship or mentor program apply for these funds Alan Greenberg: (07:39) @Judith. No restrictions in Charter. That is what we need to either allow or not, and if allow, decide on parameters. Alan Greenberg: (07:40) One possibility that has been discussed is to use the funds to top up the reserve. but your ideas could be allowed as well. Nadira ALARAJ: (07:40) Are there any public comments period? James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:40) Yes after our initial report Asha Hemrajani: (07:40) #10 is a real possibility and should not come as a surprise. One possibilty is the replenishment of the Reserve Fund, as Alan just mentioned. Alan Greenberg: (07:40) Charter rquires us to have specific public comments Alan Greenberg: (07:41) and we can have more if we dcide we should James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:41) +1 Alan Alan Greenberg: (07:41) [I was vice-chair of the charter drafting team, so I hav some idea of what it says! ;-) ] Daniel Dardailler: (07:42) what is the proper way to comment on these 11 questions ? Daniel Dardailler: (07:42) mailing list ? James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:42) Yup the work plan will likel set out how we will deal with them all Denis Munene Mwaniki: (07:46) will the slides be shared on the mailing list? James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:47) Whatever disbursement strategy we will arrive on, we will always be bounded by ICANNs 501c3 status Marika Konings: (07:47) @Denis - you can find the slides here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_… . They were also shared with the agenda. Denis Munene Mwaniki: (07:47) thank you. Asha Hemrajani: (07:47) yes @James we cannot jeopardize our non profit status James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:48) Yes this will alwyas have to be a core our every discussion Ching Chiao: (07:49) point well-made, Alan ! Marc Gauw: (07:50) We do at NLnet Foundation... Alan Greenberg: (07:50) I have some such expertise and would be glad to share my perspective. hadia.elminiawi: (07:50) Maybe part of the work that could be included in the work plan is to define the various constraints Alan Greenberg: (07:51) Yes, it is the corporate organization that has the tax status liability. Erika Mann: (07:51) I would like to offer such kind of expertise (I evaluated one of the largest capital fund/10 Billion) and I will send names of other experts as well (Gates Foundation). Julf Helsingius (GNSO NCPH NCA): (07:52) Let's ask the Gates Foundation :) Peter Vergote (.be): (07:52) DNS Belgium has worked together with a foundation called Close the Gap in the past. Happy to provide information or ask them to give Peter Vergote (.be): (07:52) a presentation if this is helpfull for this ccwg. Erika Mann: (07:52) I will send more information by email Vanda Scartezini: (07:52) thnaks Erika Erika Mann: (07:52) Hi Vanda! Alan Greenberg: (07:53) National development programs are common and easily are as large and larger than ours. Mary Uduma: (07:53) Happy to share my experience in such efforts in work with the Telcoms Regulator and the ccTLD. Vanda Scartezini: (07:53) foundations that I am chiar of board here are around 150 million USD maximum James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:53) That would be fantastic Erika, as I said eperience with funds of scale is rare James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:54) @Alan Agreed but I would see NDPs as a different beat to private foundations James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:54) *beast Marc Gauw: (07:54) So happy to provide input on how NLnet is handling its fund Julf Helsingius (GNSO NCPH NCA): (07:55) Yes, NLnet is probably a good example Marika Konings: (07:56) as you build the list, you may also want to start thinking about specific questions you would like to see answered that will assist the CCWG in its deliberations? Alan Greenberg: (07:56) @James. Yes, but there are overlapping aspects. I have done a fair amount of work on policy and implementation of NPD in the ICT area and I see a lot of alignment. James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:57) Yes for sure, just on the fund management side and legal tax advice is where I think we will end up looking external. Alan Greenberg: (07:58) Many aspects to look at. Understanding how to select projects, concept of risk associated with them and evaluations of success. very much common. James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:58) Yup! James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:58) No please use GDocs please judith hellerstein: (07:58) I am fine with google docs Vanda Scartezini: (07:58) legal certainly since California legal framework needed to be respected Erika Mann: (07:59) Google docs +1 Vanda Scartezini: (07:59) + 1 Erika hadia.elminiawi: (07:59) +1 google docs Asha Hemrajani: (07:59) If we get participants/observers from China, they may not have access to Google docs Mary Uduma: (08:00) +1@ Alan Carlos Dionisio Aguirre: (08:00) good point James Gannon [GNSO]: (08:01) Works for me. Denis Munene Mwaniki: (08:01) +1 judith hellerstein: (08:02) works for me Asha Hemrajani: (08:02) 15:00 UTC works for me James Gannon [GNSO]: (08:02) 90 to start Jon Nevett: (08:03) PST and EST are 3 hours apart not 4 James Gannon [GNSO]: (08:03) Weekly until we break into subgroups Vanda Scartezini: (08:03) every two weeks lloks fine - thursday is also a good day Sebastien: (08:03) 15:00 UTC works for me Marika Konings: (08:03) Note that for ICANN58, staff will be requesting a slot on Wednesday from 15.15-16.45 local time for the CCWG. You can decide at a later date whether you want to use this slot or not. Asha Hemrajani: (08:03) I think every 2-3 weeks would be good Daniel Dardailler: (08:03) Is this table on the Web ? and what does Impact means ? Vanda Scartezini: (08:04) 90 minutes for the beginning looks fine too Marika Konings: (08:04) @Daniel - I will post it on the meeting page Jon Nevett: (08:04) Asha +1 Carlos Dionisio Aguirre: (08:04) twoo weeks looks fine and 90 minutes each Peter Vergote (.be): (08:04) Sounds like a good plan to me, Jonathan! judith hellerstein: (08:04) Yes but should fix the EST/PST time zones Marika Konings: (08:05) @Jon - thanks. We'll fix that. Nadira ALARAJ: (08:05) +1 for fixed time slot Vanda Scartezini: (08:05) very good start! Asha Hemrajani: (08:05) +1 for fixed time slot judith hellerstein: (08:05) great Mary Uduma: (08:05) Thanks and bye All. James Gannon [GNSO]: (08:05) Thanks all looking forward to working togheter Marc Gauw: (08:05) thanks, bye ! Asha Hemrajani: (08:05) Thank you all Carlos Dionisio Aguirre: (08:05) thanks and good bye. Vanda Scartezini: (08:05) thnaks you all! Eduardo Diaz - NARALO: (08:05) Gracias Marika Konings: (08:05) thanks all! bverd (RSSAC): (08:05) thanks all Jon Nevett: (08:05) thanks! Joke Braeken: (08:05) thank you all. bye Peter Vergote (.be): (08:06) Thanks and bye! agnoun basso: (08:06) thank you hadia.elminiawi: (08:06) thank you, bye Glenn McKnight: (08:06) bye agnoun basso: (08:06) see you next time

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Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat for CCWG Auction Proceeds on 26 January 2017
by Nathalie Peregrine 26 Jan '17

26 Jan '17

Dear all, Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email and the MP3 recording below for the CCWG Auction Proceeds call held on Thursday, 26 January 2017 at 15:00 UTC. Mp3: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-auction-proceeds-26jan17-en.mp3<http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=NrFWbrBstcrPWP369qgbqlXiSKeL20xnUXz…> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov> ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ccwg-auctionproceeds/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/yJXDAw Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie Peregrine ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Thursday, 26 January 2017 Nathalie Peregrine: (1/26/2017 06:46) Dear all, welcome to the new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG call on Thursday 26 January 2017 Waudo: (06:55) Hi all. I am logging in briefly just to chekc that its possible - I have to leave for the airport. I tried sending email to the list but received message that the message was not succesfully delivered. I request staff to check. Thanks. Julf Helsingius (GNSO NCPH NCA): (06:55) Did you hear me? Jacob Odame-Baiden: (06:55) Hello this is Jacob from Ghana agnoun basso: (06:55) hello everybody Marika Konings: (06:56) @Waudo - please make sure that you are not responding to the ntyf mailing list as CCWG members/participants do not have posting rights to the list (it is only used for sending call details) hadia.elminiawi: (06:56) Hi all, glad to join you today Marika Konings: (06:56) To send apologies or request a dial-out for future meetings, you can always contact gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> Denis Munene Mwaniki 2: (06:56) hello everyone Asha Hemrajani: (06:57) Good evening from Singapore Ching Chiao: (06:57) Hi everyone! Marc Gauw: (06:57) Hi there Carlos Dionisio Aguirre: (06:58) good morning from Argentina Nathalie Peregrine: (06:59) Welcome everyone! Denis Munene Mwaniki: (06:59) good evening from Kenya Jonathan Robinson: (07:00) Just dialing in to be sure of connection James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:00) Morning/Afternoon/Evening everyone Marika Konings: (07:00) For roll call purposes, please also use your last name when logging into Adobe Connect (you can update your info by using the drop down menu in this pod) judith hellerstein: (07:01) Hi all Vanda Scartezini: (07:01) Hi, all. I'm in a very noisy environment. I'll keep myself mute. Apologies Julf Helsingius (GNSO NCPH NCA): (07:01) This seems to be a very popular group.... Marika Konings: (07:01) Thank you Vanda James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:02) @Marika: Stephanie sends her apologies, she is on a panel with the data protection officers at CPDP right now unfortunately. Alan Greenberg: (07:02) dead air Marika Konings: (07:02) Thanks, James, noted Marika Konings: (07:03) Please mute your microphones when not speaking Nadira ALARAJ: (07:04) I'm connected through the Adobe room Mary Uduma: (07:05) Hello All. Nathalie Peregrine: (07:07) Welcome all Glenn McKnight: (07:08) Howdy Nathalie Peregrine: (07:11) GNSO SO/AC support email address: gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> for requests, questions, dial outs, apologies, questions about membership status Erika Mann: (07:20) Erika Mann - Joined the call! Marika Konings: (07:20) Please note that if after a number of reminders you have not completed your SOI or DOI your status will be downgraded to observer until you have completed the required statements. James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:20) Hey Erica! Nice to see you still here =) Erika Mann: (07:20) Hi James! Asha Hemrajani: (07:21) Hello Erika, how nice to see you here! Erika Mann: (07:21) Hi Asha! Marika Konings: (07:22) @Daniel - please activate your microphone in Adobe Connect. Daniel Dardailler: (07:22) my mike seems dead.. Marika Konings: (07:22) Can we assist you with a dial-out? Daniel Dardailler: (07:23) my question was related to the concept of "good standing" in a WG, when it comes to voting (rare but important when it happens) Daniel Dardailler: (07:23) is there such a concept within ICANN/GNSO group ? Tom Dale (ACIG GAC Secretariat): (07:24) The GAC hopes to be able to advise its nominated members by the end of next week. Nathalie Peregrine: (07:24) Recording of the Communication Tools classroom (tips and tricks of the tools used to communicate in CCWGs): https://participate.icann.org/p830qbsrcot/ Daniel Dardailler: (07:25) e.g. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.w3.org_2004_02_Pro… James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:26) Johnathan or staff can confirm but for the members as per the charter we have not defined such standing Daniel Jonathan Robinson: (07:27) Thanks James. Yes, no such defintion exists as such. Save for SOI + DOI required. Jonathan Robinson: (07:27) Also, committment to behavioural norms as per ICANN rules on "respectful particpation" or simialr Daniel Dardailler: (07:28) ok thx James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:28) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resource… Daniel Dardailler: (07:28) we actually use more the concept of "active participant" when measuring groups James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:30) I think its super impotrant to note that voting will most likely never happen, we managed to make it through pretty much the entire restructuring and accountability exercise of the IANA transition without having to do so (Under Johnathans leadership for a large chunk of that too) I dont see this as being any different I ope Becky Burr: (07:36) That ultimate responsibility is required to ensure compliance with fiduciary obligations, particularly with respect to compliance with laws and regulations applicable to non-profits Julf Helsingius (GNSO NCPH NCA): (07:38) And "reasonable", "typical" and "best practice" will be very different in terms of efficiency judith hellerstein: (07:38) To be #10 would be could the fellowship or mentor program apply for these funds Alan Greenberg: (07:39) @Judith. No restrictions in Charter. That is what we need to either allow or not, and if allow, decide on parameters. Alan Greenberg: (07:40) One possibility that has been discussed is to use the funds to top up the reserve. but your ideas could be allowed as well. Nadira ALARAJ: (07:40) Are there any public comments period? James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:40) Yes after our initial report Asha Hemrajani: (07:40) #10 is a real possibility and should not come as a surprise. One possibilty is the replenishment of the Reserve Fund, as Alan just mentioned. Alan Greenberg: (07:40) Charter rquires us to have specific public comments Alan Greenberg: (07:41) and we can have more if we dcide we should James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:41) +1 Alan Alan Greenberg: (07:41) [I was vice-chair of the charter drafting team, so I hav some idea of what it says! ;-) ] Daniel Dardailler: (07:42) what is the proper way to comment on these 11 questions ? Daniel Dardailler: (07:42) mailing list ? James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:42) Yup the work plan will likel set out how we will deal with them all Denis Munene Mwaniki: (07:46) will the slides be shared on the mailing list? James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:47) Whatever disbursement strategy we will arrive on, we will always be bounded by ICANNs 501c3 status Marika Konings: (07:47) @Denis - you can find the slides here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_… . They were also shared with the agenda. Denis Munene Mwaniki: (07:47) thank you. Asha Hemrajani: (07:47) yes @James we cannot jeopardize our non profit status James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:48) Yes this will alwyas have to be a core our every discussion Ching Chiao: (07:49) point well-made, Alan ! Marc Gauw: (07:50) We do at NLnet Foundation... Alan Greenberg: (07:50) I have some such expertise and would be glad to share my perspective. hadia.elminiawi: (07:50) Maybe part of the work that could be included in the work plan is to define the various constraints Alan Greenberg: (07:51) Yes, it is the corporate organization that has the tax status liability. Erika Mann: (07:51) I would like to offer such kind of expertise (I evaluated one of the largest capital fund/10 Billion) and I will send names of other experts as well (Gates Foundation). Julf Helsingius (GNSO NCPH NCA): (07:52) Let's ask the Gates Foundation :) Peter Vergote (.be): (07:52) DNS Belgium has worked together with a foundation called Close the Gap in the past. Happy to provide information or ask them to give Peter Vergote (.be): (07:52) a presentation if this is helpfull for this ccwg. Erika Mann: (07:52) I will send more information by email Vanda Scartezini: (07:52) thnaks Erika Erika Mann: (07:52) Hi Vanda! Alan Greenberg: (07:53) National development programs are common and easily are as large and larger than ours. Mary Uduma: (07:53) Happy to share my experience in such efforts in work with the Telcoms Regulator and the ccTLD. Vanda Scartezini: (07:53) foundations that I am chiar of board here are around 150 million USD maximum James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:53) That would be fantastic Erika, as I said eperience with funds of scale is rare James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:54) @Alan Agreed but I would see NDPs as a different beat to private foundations James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:54) *beast Marc Gauw: (07:54) So happy to provide input on how NLnet is handling its fund Julf Helsingius (GNSO NCPH NCA): (07:55) Yes, NLnet is probably a good example Marika Konings: (07:56) as you build the list, you may also want to start thinking about specific questions you would like to see answered that will assist the CCWG in its deliberations? Alan Greenberg: (07:56) @James. Yes, but there are overlapping aspects. I have done a fair amount of work on policy and implementation of NPD in the ICT area and I see a lot of alignment. James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:57) Yes for sure, just on the fund management side and legal tax advice is where I think we will end up looking external. Alan Greenberg: (07:58) Many aspects to look at. Understanding how to select projects, concept of risk associated with them and evaluations of success. very much common. James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:58) Yup! James Gannon [GNSO]: (07:58) No please use GDocs please judith hellerstein: (07:58) I am fine with google docs Vanda Scartezini: (07:58) legal certainly since California legal framework needed to be respected Erika Mann: (07:59) Google docs +1 Vanda Scartezini: (07:59) + 1 Erika hadia.elminiawi: (07:59) +1 google docs Asha Hemrajani: (07:59) If we get participants/observers from China, they may not have access to Google docs Mary Uduma: (08:00) +1@ Alan Carlos Dionisio Aguirre: (08:00) good point James Gannon [GNSO]: (08:01) Works for me. Denis Munene Mwaniki: (08:01) +1 judith hellerstein: (08:02) works for me Asha Hemrajani: (08:02) 15:00 UTC works for me James Gannon [GNSO]: (08:02) 90 to start Jon Nevett: (08:03) PST and EST are 3 hours apart not 4 James Gannon [GNSO]: (08:03) Weekly until we break into subgroups Vanda Scartezini: (08:03) every two weeks lloks fine - thursday is also a good day Sebastien: (08:03) 15:00 UTC works for me Marika Konings: (08:03) Note that for ICANN58, staff will be requesting a slot on Wednesday from 15.15-16.45 local time for the CCWG. You can decide at a later date whether you want to use this slot or not. Asha Hemrajani: (08:03) I think every 2-3 weeks would be good Daniel Dardailler: (08:03) Is this table on the Web ? and what does Impact means ? Vanda Scartezini: (08:04) 90 minutes for the beginning looks fine too Marika Konings: (08:04) @Daniel - I will post it on the meeting page Jon Nevett: (08:04) Asha +1 Carlos Dionisio Aguirre: (08:04) twoo weeks looks fine and 90 minutes each Peter Vergote (.be): (08:04) Sounds like a good plan to me, Jonathan! judith hellerstein: (08:04) Yes but should fix the EST/PST time zones Marika Konings: (08:05) @Jon - thanks. We'll fix that. Nadira ALARAJ: (08:05) +1 for fixed time slot Vanda Scartezini: (08:05) very good start! Asha Hemrajani: (08:05) +1 for fixed time slot judith hellerstein: (08:05) great Mary Uduma: (08:05) Thanks and bye All. James Gannon [GNSO]: (08:05) Thanks all looking forward to working togheter Marc Gauw: (08:05) thanks, bye ! Asha Hemrajani: (08:05) Thank you all Carlos Dionisio Aguirre: (08:05) thanks and good bye. Vanda Scartezini: (08:05) thnaks you all! Eduardo Diaz - NARALO: (08:05) Gracias Marika Konings: (08:05) thanks all! bverd (RSSAC): (08:05) thanks all Jon Nevett: (08:05) thanks! Joke Braeken: (08:05) thank you all. bye Peter Vergote (.be): (08:06) Thanks and bye! agnoun basso: (08:06) thank you hadia.elminiawi: (08:06) thank you, bye Glenn McKnight: (08:06) bye agnoun basso: (08:06) see you next time

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Proposed Agenda - new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG
by Marika Konings 24 Jan '17

24 Jan '17

Dear All, Please find below the proposed agenda for the first meeting of the new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG which has been scheduled for Thursday 26 January at 15.00 UTC (call details have been distributed separately). In the meantime, please make sure to complete your statement of interest as well as declaration of intention, if you have not done so yet. Please contact the GNSO Secretariat (gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>) should you have any difficulties. You are furthermore encouraged to review the background materials related to this effort (see https://community.icann.org/x/1qDDAw) as well as the CCWG Charter (see https://community.icann.org/x/DJjDAw) prior to the first meeting. Best regards, Marika Proposed Agenda – new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG – Thursday 26 January at 15.00 UTC 1. Roll call / SOI 2. Welcome & Introductions 3. Update on CO membership appointments and chairs 4. Review CCWG charter (see slides attached) 5. Discuss what information and/or preparation is needed to start developing work plan 6. Discuss proposed timing, duration and frequency of meetings 7. AOB 8. Confirm next steps & time / date for next meeting Marika Konings Senior Policy Director & Team Leader for the GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: marika.konings(a)icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org> Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses<http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso> and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages<http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-…>.

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Meeting Invitation: Communication Tools Classroom session CCWG Auction Proceeds Thursday 12 January 2017 at 13:00 UTC
by Nathalie Peregrine 14 Jan '17

14 Jan '17

Dear all, The CCWG Auction Proceeds will meet for the first time on 26 January 2017 at 15:00 UTC. Prior to that first conference call, we would like to invite all new members, participants, observers to a Communication Tools Classroom session. The aim here is to ensure all are comfortable with the different communication tools frequently used by cross community working groups in ICANN. We aim to cover for instance: * The Adobe Connect web conference room and conference call protocol * The wiki CCWG workspaces * Mailing lists * Differences in status between participant and observer * And all the questions you may have The GNSO WG Communication tools classroom is scheduled for Thursday 12 January 2017 at 13:00 UTC for 1hr. For other times: http://tinyurl.com/zo2zstg Adobe Connect WITH AUDIO enabled: https://participate.icann.org/gnso-welcome<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__participate.icann.org_…> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ The dial-in details are below - please let <mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> gnso-secs(a)icann.org know if you require a dial-out. _______________________________________________________________ Participant passcode: WELCOME For security reasons, the passcode will be required to join the call. _______________________________________________________________ For security reasons, the passcode will be required to join the conference. Dial in numbers: Country Toll Numbers Freephone/ Toll Free Number ARGENTINA 0800-777-0519 AUSTRALIA ADELAIDE: 61-8-8121-4842 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA BRISBANE: 61-7-3102-0944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA CANBERRA: 61-2-6100-1944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA MELBOURNE: 61-3-9010-7713 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA PERTH: 61-8-9467-5223 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA SYDNEY: 61-2-8205-8129 1-800-657-260 AUSTRIA 43-1-92-81-113 0800-005-259 BELGIUM 32-2-400-9861 0800-3-8795 BRAZIL SAO PAULO: 55-11-3958-0779 0800-7610651 CHILE 1230-020-2863 CHINA CHINA A: 86-400-810-4789 10800-712-1670 CHINA CHINA B: 86-400-810-4789 10800-120-1670 COLOMBIA 01800-9-156474 CROATIA 080-08-06-309 CZECH REPUBLIC 420-2-25-98-56-64 800-700-177 DENMARK 45-7014-0284 8088-8324 ESTONIA 800-011-1093 FINLAND 358-9-5424-7162 0-800-9-14610 FRANCE LYON: 33-4-26-69-12-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE MARSEILLE: 33-4-86-06-00-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE PARIS: 33-1-70-70-60-72 080-511-1496 GERMANY 49-69-2222-20362 0800-664-4247 GREECE 30-80-1-100-0687 00800-12-7312 HONG KONG 852-3001-3863 800-962-856 HUNGARY 36-1-700-8856 06-800-12755 INDIA BANGALORE: 91-80-61275204 INDIA MUMBAI: 91-22-61501629 INDIA INDIA A: 000-800-852-1268 INDIA INDIA B: 000-800-001-6305 INDIA INDIA C: 1800-300-00491 INDONESIA 001-803-011-3982 IRELAND 353-1-246-7646 1800-992-368 ISRAEL 1-80-9216162 ITALY MILAN: 39-02-3600-6007 800-986-383 ITALY ROME: 39-06-8751-6018 800-986-383 ITALY TORINO: 39-011-510-0118 800-986-383 JAPAN OSAKA: 81-6-7878-2631 0066-33-132439 JAPAN TOKYO: 81-3-6868-2631 0066-33-132439 LATVIA 8000-3185 LUXEMBOURG 352-27-000-1364 8002-9246 MALAYSIA 1-800-81-3065 MEXICO GUADALAJARA (JAL): 52-33-3208-7310 001-866-376-9696 MEXICO MEXICO CITY: 52-55-5062-9110 001-866-376-9696 MEXICO MONTERREY: 52-81-2482-0610 001-866-376-9696 NETHERLANDS 31-20-718-8588 0800-023-4378 NEW ZEALAND 64-9-970-4771 0800-447-722 NORWAY 47-21-590-062 800-15157 PANAMA 011-001-800-5072065 PERU 0800-53713 PHILIPPINES 63-2-858-3716 1800-111-42453 POLAND 00-800-1212572 PORTUGAL 8008-14052 ROMANIA 40-31-630-01-79 RUSSIA 8-10-8002-0144011 SAUDI ARABIA 800-8-110087 SINGAPORE 65-6883-9230 800-120-4663 SLOVAK REPUBLIC 421-2-322-422-25 0800-002066 SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-80414 SOUTH KOREA 82-2-6744-1083 00798-14800-7352 SPAIN 34-91-414-25-33 800-300-053 SWEDEN 46-8-566-19-348 0200-884-622 SWITZERLAND 41-44-580-6398 0800-120-032 TAIWAN 886-2-2795-7379 00801-137-797 THAILAND 001-800-1206-66056 TURKEY 00-800-151-0516 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES 8000-35702370 UNITED KINGDOM BIRMINGHAM: 44-121-210-9025 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM GLASGOW: 44-141-202-3225 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LEEDS: 44-113-301-2125 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LONDON: 44-20-7108-6370 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM MANCHESTER: 44-161-601-1425 0808-238-6029 URUGUAY 000-413-598-3421 USA 1-517-345-9004 866-692-5726 VENEZUELA 0800-1-00-3702 Restrictions may exist when accessing freephone/toll free numbers using a mobile telephone. ---------------------------- Thank you, Nathalie

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ICANN Policy staff Workshop 23 - 27 January 2017
by Nathalie Peregrine 12 Jan '17

12 Jan '17

Dear all, ICANN Policy staff will be holding its annual Policy Workshop in Los Angeles from Monday 23 January 2017 to Friday 27 January 2017. Staff will be replying to email requests, but there will be delays. Thank you for your understanding, GNSO SO/AC Support

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