September 2017 - Ccwg-auctionproceeds

Input needed - review of examples - deadline 15 October
by Marika Konings 13 Oct '17

13 Oct '17

Dear All, As per action item #1 of our last meeting, please find attached the latest Word version of the assessment of examples of fund allocation document. As noted in the document, the objective is to review and analyze the examples that have been provided to date in relation to new gTLD Auction Proceeds allocation. As ultimately allocation needs to occur consistent with ICANN’s mission as well as the objectives set by the CCWG, you are requested to indicate for each of these examples with which part of ICANN’s mission it is considered consistent as well as which part of the proposed objectives. You may also indicate if you do not consider the proposed example consistent with either ICANN’s mission and/or the objectives. You also have the ability to add examples currently not covered to the table. To facilitate your review, ICANN’s mission as well as the CCWG proposed objectives are listed with reference numbers that you can use to fill out the table. Note that ‘notes/comments’ column can be used for any additional input you wish to provide. You can include your feedback in the attached document or use the google doc version (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zQ66hCxrboAJPKeuU6nHwzHQwmU6g_3kS0JUSSC…) The deadline for input is 15 October. Thanks, Marika Marika Konings Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: marika.konings(a)icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org> Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses<http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso> and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages<http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-…>.

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Proposed Agenda - new gTLD Auction Proceeds Meeting on 21 September 2017
by Marika Konings 05 Oct '17

05 Oct '17

Dear All, Please find below the proposed agenda for the new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting which is scheduled for Thursday 21 September at 14.00 UTC. Note that we are awaiting confirmation for agenda item 3 whether Xavier is available to provide this update – if not, it will be deferred to the next meeting. Also, please take some time to review and contribute to the google docs for agenda item 4 and 5. Thanks, Marika Proposed agenda for CCWG AP meeting – Thursday 21 September at 14.00 UTC 1. Roll Call 2. Welcome / DOI 3. Presentation from ICANN Finance & Legal on the different options that have been discussed in relation to charter question #7 – should ICANN Org have a role in the solicitation and evaluation of proposals (e.g. through internal structure - new unit, within ICANN; externally - new built entity that would only focus on this work; externally - working with already existing entities) 4. Review assessment of examples of fund allocation (see https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zQ66hCxrboAJPKeuU6nHwzHQwmU6g_3kS0JUSSC…) 5. Review latest definition/description of Open Internet (see https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HV3dzTkKIYCyiRbzPW3Uk3MctwK0BQTth39DitI…) 6. Review updated work plan (see attached clean and redline version) 7. Confirm next steps & next meeting (5 October 2017 at 14.00 UTC) Marika Konings Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: marika.konings(a)icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org> Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses<http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso> and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages<http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-…>.

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With google doc link - Re: For your review - updated version open internet definition / description
by Marika Konings 05 Oct '17

05 Oct '17

Following up on this message, please find the document in the form of a Google Doc here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HV3dzTkKIYCyiRbzPW3Uk3MctwK0BQTth39DitI…. Please provide any comments/edits you may have in the form of suggestions. If any of you have issues using google docs, please send your comments / suggestions by email and I can add them on your behalf. Best regards, Marika From: <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Marika Konings <marika.konings(a)icann.org> Date: Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 07:41 To: "erika(a)erikamann.com" <erika(a)erikamann.com>, Sylvia Cadena <sylvia(a)apnic.net> Cc: "ccwg-auctionproceeds(a)icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated version open internet definition / description Dear All, On behalf of Erika, please find attached a new “Open Internet” preamble draft text which aims to incorporate the different proposals and comments that have been made to date. Following the call, we will make the google doc link available to allow for further edits / comments. Best regards, Marika From: <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Erika Mann <erika(a)erikamann.com> Date: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 03:21 To: Sylvia Cadena <sylvia(a)apnic.net> Cc: "ccwg-auctionproceeds(a)icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated version open internet definition / description All - I hope to be able to send you tomorrow a new 'open Internet' preamble draft text, based on suggestions you made. I had hoped to be able to do this today but I have to finalize some other work first. Until tomorrow! Erika On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 3:00 AM, Sylvia Cadena <sylvia(a)apnic.net<mailto:sylvia@apnic.net>> wrote: Dear all, I have checked the document that Marika shared with comments from many of us and incorporated the last ones made on this thread. I hope the attached document serves to structure a preamble (as Erika suggested) in a way that reflects the spirit of the CCWG discussions, and our intent for the auction proceeds funds to make a difference. Warm regards, Sylvia ———— ** ISIF Asia call for grants proposals and award nominations has been extended until 15 September (midnight UTC) www.isif.asia[isif.asia]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.isif.asia_&d=DwMFaQ…> - Get started and submit your application! ** Sylvia Cadena | sylvia(a)apnic.net<mailto:sylvia@apnic.net> | APNIC Foundation - Head of Programs | +10 GMT Brisbane, Australia | http://www.apnic.foundation[apnic.foundation]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.apnic.foundation_&d…> From: <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Judith Hellerstein <judith(a)jhellerstein.com<mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com>> Organization: Hellerstein & Associates Reply-To: Judith Hellerstein <judith(a)jhellerstein.com<mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com>> Date: Tuesday, 5 September 2017 at 2:17 pm To: "ccwg-auctionproceeds(a)icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>" <ccwg-auctionproceeds(a)icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated version open internet definition / description HI Erika and others, I like Daniel's summary of Open Internet but we need to also address the issue of accessibility. If you recall Elliott suggested the following An Internet that is equally accessible to all people for all purposes, and at every level of the stack. At the lower end of the stack, that means no impediments are placed based on the sender, recipient, content, application or type of data being transmitted. If we could add the concept of accessibility to your definition I think that would greatly help I also like Sylvia Cadena's text and hope we can figure out a way to add this to our definition. That means no impediments are placed based on the sender, recipient, content, application or type of data being transmitted.   That means policy and regulation promote, support, facilitate and guarantee access That means equality of access at a pragmatic level is ensured by assuring access at prices affordable to all members of society That means training is available about how to manage, operate and how to use the Internet, as well as education in how to use it effectively That means participation on an equal footing at all levels is encouraged, specially by those that might be discriminated against Best, Judith _________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 Phone: (202) 362-5139<tel:(202)%20362-5139> Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517<tel:(202)%20333-6517> E-mail: Judith(a)jhellerstein.com<mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com> Website: www.jhellerstein.com[jhellerstein.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jhellerstein.com&d=…> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/[linkedin.com]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_jhe…> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide On 9/4/2017 7:04 AM, Daniel Dardailler wrote: How about this for a start. === The concept of “Open Internet”, as referred to in the CCWG objectives statement, can be described at many levels, e.g. technogical, business, political, etc, and in particular, at the societal level: An Open Internet is one where all people are empowered to contribute and to participate in building a worldwide culture that opens our hearts and minds by respecting differences. It is an Internet (i.e. a network of networks) that we, the people of the world, recognize as ours — something we have built together for one another At the technogical level, openness refers to how easily machines can connect to each others and how stable, scalable, and secure the network is. The IP routing and numbering systems, the DNS, or the Open Standard process, have historically been serving an Open Internet because of the opportunities they have provided to participate, innovate and compete without artificial impediments (e.g. patents, walled-garden). At the policy level, supporting the Open Internet happens when for instance governments put in place regulations that promote, support, facilitate and guarantee equal connectivity at prices affordable to all members of society, together with education and training efforts toward making the next generation more Internet savvy. In an ideal world, an Open Internet is one where no control or impediments are placed based on the sender, recipient, content, application or type of data being transmitted. From that broad description, the CCWG has considered the parts of the Open Internet that: - are aligned with the overall ICANN's mission and core commitments - are in need of funding for more development support - are creating value-added for the Open Internet at large - are consensual enough so that they do not endanger the ICANN community ... <and here we need to apply our CCWG "filter" regarding layering, shared value, political issues, etc> On 2017-08-31 22:44, Marika Konings wrote: Dear All, Hereby attached the updated version of the open internet definition / description which incorporates the comments and suggestions that were submitted since the last version. As there are a number of definitions / descriptions that have been put forward so far, are there any volunteers who would like to take a stab at coming up with a draft that brings the different perspectives together and addresses the different comments and contributions to date which the CCWG could review during its next meeting? Best regards, Marika _MARIKA KONINGS_ _Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) _ _Email: marika.konings(a)icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org> _ _ _ _Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO_ _Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses [1] and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages [2]. _ Links: ------ [1] http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso[learn.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__learn.icann.org_courses…> [2] http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_sites_gn…> _______________________________________________ Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list Ccwg-auctionproceeds(a)icann.org<mailto:Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds _______________________________________________ Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list Ccwg-auctionproceeds(a)icann.org<mailto:Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds _______________________________________________ Ccwg-auctionproceeds mailing list Ccwg-auctionproceeds(a)icann.org<mailto:Ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ccwg-auctionproceeds

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2nd REMINDER: Doodle / CCWG Auction Proceeds ICANN60
by Terri Agnew 25 Sep '17

25 Sep '17

Dear all, Please complete the doodle for ICANN60 CCWG Auction Proceeds meeting. Please note that there are currently two meeting slots reserved for the new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG on Thursday, 02 November at ICANN60, namely from 10.30 - 12.00 and 13.30 - 15.00. Do note that these slots run in parallel to the following cross-community discussions: 10.30 - 12.00 - Cross Community Session: General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) Implications for ICANN 13.30 - 15.00 Cross Community Session: Talking About Jurisdiction - Challenges Associated with ICANN's Activities Being Subject to the Laws. As such, the Chairs would like to assess the expected attendance for the CCWG sessions in order to plan accordingly. Doodle: http://doodle.com/poll/u9mkr6ywvndt64rt Thank you. With kind regards, Terri --- Terri Agnew Operations Support - GNSO Lead Administrator Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: <mailto:terri.agnew@icann.org> terri.agnew(a)icann.org Skype ID: terri.agnew.icann Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses and visiting the <https://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy -efforts.htm#newcomers> GNSO Newcomer pages

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REMINDER: Doodle / CCWG Auction Proceeds ICANN60
by Terri Agnew 22 Sep '17

22 Sep '17

Dear all, Please complete the doodle for ICANN60 CCWG Auction Proceeds meeting. Please note that there are currently two meeting slots reserved for the new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG on Thursday, 02 November at ICANN60, namely from 10.30 - 12.00 and 13.30 - 15.00. Do note that these slots run in parallel to the following cross-community discussions: 10.30 - 12.00 - Cross Community Session: General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) Implications for ICANN 13.30 - 15.00 Cross Community Session: Talking About Jurisdiction - Challenges Associated with ICANN's Activities Being Subject to the Laws. As such, the Chairs would like to assess the expected attendance for the CCWG sessions in order to plan accordingly. Doodle: http://doodle.com/poll/u9mkr6ywvndt64rt Thank you. With kind regards, Terri --- Terri Agnew Operations Support - GNSO Lead Administrator Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: <mailto:terri.agnew@icann.org> terri.agnew(a)icann.org Skype ID: terri.agnew.icann Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses and visiting the <https://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy -efforts.htm#newcomers> GNSO Newcomer pages

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Doodle / CCWG Auction Proceeds ICANN60
by Terri Agnew 21 Sep '17

21 Sep '17

Dear all, Please complete the doodle for ICANN60 CCWG Auction Proceeds meeting. Please note that there are currently two meeting slots reserved for the new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG on Thursday, 02 November at ICANN60, namely from 10.30 - 12.00 and 13.30 - 15.00. Do note that these slots run in parallel to the following cross-community discussions: 10.30 - 12.00 - Cross Community Session: General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) Implications for ICANN 13.30 - 15.00 Cross Community Session: Talking About Jurisdiction - Challenges Associated with ICANN's Activities Being Subject to the Laws. As such, the Chairs would like to assess the expected attendance for the CCWG sessions in order to plan accordingly. Doodle: http://doodle.com/poll/u9mkr6ywvndt64rt Thank you. With kind regards, Terri --- Terri Agnew Operations Support - GNSO Lead Administrator Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: <mailto:terri.agnew@icann.org> terri.agnew(a)icann.org Skype ID: terri.agnew.icann Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses and visiting the <https://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy -efforts.htm#newcomers> GNSO Newcomer pages

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Recordings, attendance & AC Chat from CCWG Auction Proceeds call on Thursday, 21 September 2017
by Michelle DeSmyter 21 Sep '17

21 Sep '17

Dear all, Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email and the MP3 recording below for the CCWG Auction Proceeds call held on Thursday, 21 September 2017 at 14:00 UTC. Mp3: https://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-auction-proceeds-21sep17-en.mp3 AC Recording: https://participate.icann.org/p5517zrzqyj/ The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_group…> ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ccwg-auctionproceeds/ Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/a2zwAw Thank you. Kind regards, Michelle DeSmyter ------------------------------- Adobe Connect chat transcript for Thursday, 21 September 2017 Michelle DeSmyter:Welcome to the CCWG New gTLD Auction Proceeds call on Thursday 21 September 2017 at 14:00 UTC. Michelle DeSmyter:Agenda wiki page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_… Kavouss Arasteh:HI Erika Kavouss Arasteh:Hi MIchelle Erika Mann:Hi Kavouss, nice seeing you! Erika Mann:Hi ladies, can we check whether my audion functions are working? Michelle DeSmyter:Hi there Erika - the operator will be dialing you momentarily Erika Mann:Okay Michelle! Kavouss Arasteh:Michel Erika Mann:Did you notice that Anthony (Tony) Harris needs to be dialed into the call today as well Kavouss Arasteh:My number is 00971 2656 0000 room 1505 Kavouss Arasteh:I am not in Geneva Kavouss Arasteh:Pls kindly do not dial my standard no. Kindly dial the number given Michelle DeSmyter:thank you Kavouss - I just sent you a private chat Julf Helsingius:I will be listen and type only today. Erika Mann:Hi Julf - saw your note, if we miss seeing your comments, please let us know! Julf Helsingius:Thanks, will do, Erika! Kavouss Arasteh:Marika, pls kindly read your mail and advise another dial up Julf Helsingius:I am at a funky residential makerspace in Turin Kavouss Arasteh:the new no. is 00971 2656 0000 ROOM 1505 Michelle DeSmyter:thank you Kavouss - the operator is dialing you now Michelle DeSmyter:https://participate.icann.org/newgtlds-auction Marika Konings:For future reference, please make sure to send any dial-out requests to gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>ahead of the meeting so these can be set up ahead of time. Marika Konings:Please remember to mute your phones when not speaking Manal Ismail:I hear everyone very faint .. is it just me ? Julf Helsingius:Sounds fine here Marika Konings:There appears to be an open microphone - please mute when not speaking Michelle DeSmyter:Manal -if you need a dial out, please let me know Manal Ismail:@Julf thanks .. Hadia Elminiawi:Hello all Manal Ismail:ok thanks Michelle .. will do some trials and let you know if I need a dial out .. Daniel Dardailler:I'm not clear if what I've done on the examples is right, that is, comment in the columns B C D using my initials e.g. DD: Erika Mann:Xavier - I see you joined the call. We understood that you couldn't be with us today, we therefore moved point 3) to our next call. Xavier Calvez:Erika, thank you. I can only listen and will not be able to stay until the end of the call. enoss:this is the most important part of the early work and really requires a couple of hours of time to sit down and deal with. MORE TIME PLEASE! :-) MarilynCade:Provide both. enoss:google docs are much better, particularly for a shared exercise like this MarilynCade:In the BC, we always provide both, at the same time. enoss:anyone can go into the google doc and export a word version Kavouss Arasteh:I wish to have wrord doc. as I have difficulties to download Google doc. Kavouss Arasteh:Sorry word Daniel Dardailler:One reason for not getting more reactions on the examples is that the editing process is not clear Daniel Dardailler:people may be afraid of messing up something, etc Daniel Dardailler:I think we need a clear guidane at the top on how to add comments, suggestions,etc MarilynCade:Ask for full names, plese, not initials, and no anonymous comments, right? Hadia Elminiawi:I think word or google doc is better than a survey Wale Bakare:Hi all, apologies for joining late Daniel Dardailler:Marylin: agreed, initials are not very helpful, I've just done that in the interest of space in the page, but if lots of folks are going to insert data, space is not a real issue to fight for Marika Konings:There is a notes/comments column that would allow for that? enoss:@marika I was thinking of something more explicit. I thought of that, but that column I saw as being used for identifying questions or nuance Marika Konings:I think people can use it for anything they want :-) Daniel Dardailler:(I changed my DD: into real name) enoss:the things I am looking to unearth with this is to see places where conformance with mission is not crystal clear, but desirability is high. these are the places to naturally push further on Daniel Dardailler:I withdraw my request for more guidance, I hadn't seen the mention right before the table Daniel Dardailler:maybe the table should go (with it's initial comment on addition/response) at the top and the mission after Marika Konings:what would be a reasonable deadline for the CCWG to provide its input? Daniel Dardailler:For instance, it's not clear if I am allowed to implement this idea (move the mission text after the table) or if something reserved to the "editor" Marika Konings:I would need a bit of time to collate the input prior to the next meeting Marika Konings:@Elliot - we can also rename the column or provide specific guidance on the kind of input that you are looking for? If you have a description, I am happy to add it. enoss:sure Marika Konings:@Daniel - I'm happy to make that change, but the reason on putting it first was to make clear that people are expected to use the mission references when filling out the table enoss:@erika correct Daniel Dardailler:There are many other criteria we could consider as additional columns, like core values et commitments, internet layer applicable, commons, etc enoss:I like something simple like "desirability" or "preferred category". anything that indicates whether this type of project is very important to the participant MarilynCade:I would like to review the examples. From the BC perspective, for instance, examples that are about SSR and capacity building about awareness and engagement in ICANN and related events could be a high priority, but we need to consult within the 3 of the BC participants. MarilynCade:Could we have perhaps initial comments, and then a final date? Kavouss Arasteh:19 october MarilynCade:but try to have some comments to discuss for next call. enoss:the 19th feels like lots Marika Konings:so deadline would have to be 16 Oct to give staff time to prepare prior to the meeting Maureen Hilyard:+1 Marika - it would be good to have a tidied up version of the comments MarilynCade:I continue to object to this group trying to define what is the Open Internet. This is a very challenging discussion. If you as members insist, then you can reference the various definitions Daniel Dardailler:I disagree that the name Open Internet is already "owned" by NN MarilynCade:I proposed the open and interoperable Internet. We believe in a single root for the open and interoperable Internet. Daniel Dardailler:it's perfectly fine as a label to use for our description MarilynCade:But, to respond, Daniel, regretably, we are affected by the media understanding. MarilynCade:We are not at ICANN abotu the Open Internet, but about the open and interoperable Internet. Daniel Dardailler:IMO, interoperable is a quality of being open enoss:question for kavouss: what is very (very) sensitive? I may be missing something Daniel Dardailler:kavous, we need a label to make references MarilynCade:Focus on mission of ICANN. Yes. I support you, Kavouss. Maureen Hilyard:I like Kavouss's suggestion Daniel Dardailler:I don't support the suggestion enoss:I do not support it either Wale Bakare:+Daniel MarilynCade:Dearest Erika. we need to be very short. Maybe only the mission and then anything else is discussion. Wale Bakare:I don't agree with that as well. We are focusing on projects around Open Internet in a different concept not based on political motive, IMO enoss:rather than, or in addition to, us saying we like/don't like the inclusion, I would (sincerely) like to understand what is sensitive. I feel I am missing something and don't want to be insensitive to something I am not aware of Daniel Dardailler:kavous is not on the chat but I think the sensitivity is around net neutrality, gov surveillance, etc Daniel Dardailler:in many countries, people are fighting for an "open internet" vs many things Daniel Dardailler:but so what ? enoss:@daniel, thanks. @erika, could you ask him fdirectly? MarilynCade:I keep insisting that we are using the term open and interoperable Internet. Not the term" Open Internet". Daniel Dardailler:Marilin, can an open internet be non -nteroperable ? Wale Bakare:There seems misconception here MarilynCade:I am laughing as the media does not accept the small 'n" and "captial N" and in fact the Canadian government itself is in need of your counsel, Elliot. enoss:no Erika Mann:Daniel, Elliot, neither do I but I like to avoid an endless debate about the concept of 'open Internet' Erika Mann:... therefore I'm searching for a solution we all can agree upon MarilynCade:Really, Eliott, you cannot help us with your Canadian government as they are quite engaged and we could use your input to them. Daniel Dardailler:I'm lost as to why we need to mention net neutrality at all Hadia Elminiawi:yes Erika Mann:Marilyn, please talk! Daniel Dardailler:I don't mind that we use Open Interoperable Internet vs. just Open MarilynCade:if you do any search about Open Internet, you do not actually get a neutral statement. I did the research, using multiple search engines. enoss:I also note I do not at all mind a disclaimer that excludes any position being taking on net neutrality in the US Wale Bakare:Not for me enoss:nor do I have a problem with interoperable Ching Chiao:"The idea of an "open Internet" is the idea that the full resources of the Internet and means to operate on it should be easily accessible to all individuals, companies and organizations. This often includes ideas such as net neutrality, open standards, transparency, lack of Internet censorship, and low barriers to entry." enoss:it is more, not less Ching Chiao:this is from wikipedia Maureen Hilyard:I go with open and interoperable enoss:(that is not a bad thing) Hadia Elminiawi:fine with open interoperable internet Wale Bakare:Open Inter-operable internet is a good concept but Open captures all the underlined technologies including ICANN core business Wale Bakare:I mean Open Internet captures all the underlined technologies unlimited to DNS systems enoss:sure Manal Ismail:+1 Kavouss regarding 'description' not 'definition' and for the scope of this CCWG work .. Jonathan Robinson:Yes MarilynCade:I do not ntink I am an oponent. but if Jonathan joins, I will MarilynCade:I love being a contributor. Jonathan Robinson:Proponent? MarilynCade:Yes. MarilynCade:or anyone else that loves us. Jonathan Robinson:@Erika. Important to frame the question properly so that the DT is tightly / clearly scoped Jonathan Robinson:OK Hadia Elminiawi:can contribute as well to the preamble Daniel Dardailler:is there a clear version of the document ? with typo/dup fixed ? the view/final still has lots of them Manal Ismail:Happy to contribute as well .. enoss:thats ok for me Jonathan Robinson:THanks Marika. That's helpful. I was just keen to get it scoped for all. Marika Konings:@Daniel - I can share a clean version together with the notes Jonathan Robinson:Yes MarilynCade:I am your hands, and look to Jonathan to convene, with Marika's help. Marika Konings:Sorry, the schedule is locked and these were the only ones available Marika Konings:there are a lot of other meetings that need to be planned in Kavouss Arasteh:I am reconned to adobe Kavouss Arasteh:I am reconned to adobe Kavouss Arasteh:I am reconnected to adobe Wale Bakare:Welcome Kavouss enoss:thanks all Ching Chiao:thanks everyone! Peter Vergote (ccNSO):Txs, bye all Hadia Elminiawi:thank you all Wale Bakare:thanks, bye! Manal Ismail:Thanks everyone .. Bye .. Hadia Elminiawi:bye Maureen Hilyard:Thank you Erica and Marika

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Notes and action items from today's meeting
by Marika Konings 21 Sep '17

21 Sep '17

Dear All, Please find below the notes and action items from today’s new gTLD Auction Proceeds CCWG meeting. Best regards, Marika Notes - CCWG AP Meeting - 21 September 2017 These high-level notes are designed to help the CCWG navigate through the content of the call and are not meant as a substitute for the transcript and/or recording. The MP3, transcript, and chat are provided separately and are posted on the wiki at: https://community.icann.org/x/DLHDAw<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_…>. 1.Roll Call * Attendance will be taken from Adobe Connect * Please mute your lines when not speaking * Please state your names before speaking for transcription purposes 2. Welcome / DOI * Reminder to make sure that your SOIs and DOIs are up to date * Note updates by Erika Mann and Jonathan Robinson 3. Presentation from ICANN Finance & Legal on the different options that have been discussed in relation to charter question #7 – should ICANN Org have a role in the solicitation and evaluation of proposals (e.g. through internal structure - new unit, within ICANN; externally - new built entity that would only focus on this work; externally - working with already existing entities) * Deferred to next meeting due to unavailability of staff 4. Review assessment of examples of fund allocation (see https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zQ66hCxrboAJPKeuU6nHwzHQwmU6g_3kS0JUSSC…) * Important for CCWG members and participants to provide input. So far only two CCWG members/participant have provided input. * Objective is to identify for each example whether or not it is considered consistent with the ICANN Bylaws and/or CCWG proposed objectives for fund allocation. * Column for notes/comments should allow CCWG members/participants to provide any other input that is deemed helpful for this exercise. * How to deal with examples that are not necessarily consistent but are deemed very important by the CCWG? Consider adding a "desirability" or "preferred category". Anything that indicates whether this type of project is very important to the participant. * Other examples can be added by adding a new row. * More time may be needed to conduct a thorough review. Action item #1: Staff to circulate both word version and google doc link Action item #2: CCWG to review examples document and provide input by filling out columns. Deadline for input 15 Oct. Action item #3: Elliot to provide suggested heading for possible new column and description. 5. Review latest definition/description of Open Internet (see https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HV3dzTkKIYCyiRbzPW3Uk3MctwK0BQTth39DitI…) * See latest version shared during the meeting - note that Erika made some updates that were not tracked as a result of a mishap in google docs. * Description of what is considered part of Open Internet in preamble may work better than trying to define the concept of "Open Internet". Consider using the term open and interoperable internet, not open internet. Support for making this change. Also make clear that this description is within the scope of the CCWG's activities, not beyond. * Consider having a small DT that based on the discussions, review the latest version of the text and prepare a proposed version for CCWG review in time for the next meeting. Volunteers: Elliot, Jonathan, Marilyn, Hadia, Manal. * Note that this work derives from the reference to 'Open Internet' in the proposed objectives (which will need to be updated to reflect change agreed to) so this language would provide the description of what is meant with that, which is expected to serve as a preamble and guidance for subsequent parts of the process. Action item #4: Small DT to provide proposed version for review prior to next meeting. Action item #5: Staff to circulate latest clean version of language (see attached – note that comments that do not appear to have been addressed have been left in). 6. Review updated work plan * Work plan has been adjusted to reflect current status which means that current publication date of Initial Report is foreseen for just after ICANN61 meeting. Ongoing updates will be made to track progress made by CCWG. * Two sessions have been scheduled for ICANN60 on Thursday from 10.30 - 12.00 and 13.30 - 15.00. Doodle poll will be circulated to assess expected participation for these sessions to determine whether or not to go ahead with these meetings. Action item #6: Staff to set up doodle poll to assess expected participation for meeting at ICANN60 7. Confirm next steps & next meeting (5 October 2017 at 14.00 UTC) Marika Konings Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: marika.konings(a)icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org> Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses<http://learn.icann.org/courses/gnso> and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages<http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-…>.

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to all celebrating HOSH HASHANAH...
by Vanda Scartezini 19 Sep '17

19 Sep '17

L’Shanah Tovah Lots of joy in this new year to you and whole family! Kisses Vanda Scartezini Polo Consultores Associados Av. Paulista 1159, cj 1004 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253 Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464 Sorry for any typos. From: <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Julie Bisland <julie.bisland(a)icann.org<mailto:julie.bisland@icann.org>> Date: Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 15:29 To: "ccwg-auctionproceeds(a)icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>" <ccwg-auctionproceeds(a)icann.org<mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>" <gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>> Subject: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Recordings, Attendance & AC Chat from CCWG Auction Proceeds call on Thursday, 7 September 2017 at 14:00 UTC Dear all, Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email, and the AC Chat, MP3 and Adobe Connect recordings below for the CCWG Auction Proceeds call held on Thursday, 7 September 2017 at 14:00 UTC. Mp3:http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-auction-proceeds-07sep17-en.m… AC Recording: https://participate.icann.org/p4gkpt3chsr/<https://participate.icann.org/p4gkpt3chsr/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=f0f4dcd59786ab91…> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_group…> ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ccwg-auctionproceeds/ Wiki agenda page: https://community.icann.org/x/aWzwAw Thank you. Kind regards, Julie ——————————————— Adobe Connect chat transcript for Thursday, 7 September 2017 Julie Bisland:Welcome to the CCWG New gTLD Auction Proceeds call on Thursday 07 September 2017 at 14:00 UTC. Julie Bisland:Agenda wiki page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_… Erika Mann:Hi everyone Sylvia Cadena:Hi everyone :) Marc Gauw:Hello from Amsterdam... Manal Ismail:Hello everyone .. Dietmar Stefitz:Hello from Valencia-Spain to all of you Wale Bakare:Hello everyone, good morning/afternoon/evening Alberto Soto:Hello from Buenos Aires Hadia Elminiawi:Hello from Cairo Ching Chiao:+1 Erika / Tony Peter Vergote (ccNSO):Hi all, sorry for being late. Login issues, seems there is an update of Adobe connect software... Sylvia Cadena:Agree with Alan. This makes a lot more sense. Manal Ismail:+1 Alan .. Sylvia Cadena:Also agree on merging # 3 with #1 Marc Gauw:+1 Ching Chiao:support Nadira AL-Araj:+1 to Alan Marika Konings:The first bullet would read in that case: "Benefit the development, distribution, evolution and structures that support the Internet's unique identifier systems" Maureen Hilyard:It does seem a little repetitive.. Hadia Elminiawi:+ Alan Manal Ismail:+1 Marika Wale Bakare:I seem not have full grasp of what Alan said, sorry Sylvia Cadena:Something like this Alan? "Benefit the development, distribution and evolution of the Internet's unique identifier systems, through structures or projects" Sylvia Cadena:Marika could you type yours? Marika Konings:Benefit the development, distribution, evolution and structures that support the Internet's unique identifier systems Tony Harris 2:marikas version sounds good Sylvia Cadena:I like the one that Marika just phrased. Stephanie Perrin:I think Marika's formulation works well. Maureen Hilyard:Do we mention the projects, because they are important too Alan Greenberg:Benefit the development, distribution, evolution and support structures/projects of the Internet's unique identifier systems Sylvia Cadena:Thanks Marika Sylvia Cadena:Thanks Alan Maureen Hilyard:Thank you Erika Marika Konings:you should be able to scroll up and down Marc Gauw:Great 1-pager, compliments, thanks !... (although I would have preferred to have the word 'secure' written in BOLD... ) Sylvia Cadena:Thanks Erika. Good to see progress for the preamble. I agree with most of it. I think the last paragrapgh needs a bit of work, but I like what you have done with our contributions. Marilyn Cade:I have a point to make about the use of the term of Open Internet. I think it is too identified with Net Neutrality. How about Open and Interoperable Internet? or even 'open interoperable Interent" Marika Konings:we will make the google doc link available after the call so you can all add your comments/edits Sylvia Cadena:+1 Alan :) Marilyn Cade:Just to clarify that I did not object to IXPs, but to funding large infrastructure projects like under sea cables. :-) Tony Harris 2:Good point, Alan Asha Hemrajani:Hello everyone, sorry to be late. Had a small crisis to deal with and then challenges with Adobe. judith hellerstein:@erika, can you also add some wording that stresses the need for open standards so that the internet remains accessible to all. I am talking specifically to the disability and specific needs community Asha Hemrajani:Please could I get a dialout Marika Konings:@Ashi - Julie will work with you on a dial-out. If you can send her a private message with your phone number? Marilyn Cade:While I respect that this group is focused on gTLDs, we should all recognize that the ccTLDs are very important contributors to increasing access. Perraps this could become a neutral statement about the importance of an online presence and providing information about all kinds of T LDs Maureen Hilyard:I agree Marilyn. cctlds in developing and underserved countries also need development support. The statement needs to be inclusive of all tlds. Nadira AL-Araj: Those examples, could be could be included in most frequently asked questions. Hadia Elminiawi:however we do need to be in a way or another specific being too broad does not help the evaluators either Maureen Hilyard:Any funds should benefit the full ICANN community. It is very important to the stability of the Internet, as the ccTLDs build infrastructure at the national level Sylvia Cadena:Yes, that is why I am saying not to include the examples on a preamble. The preamble helps with a framework. But having the examples listed together so none of us missed the importance of the examples already provided on previous surveys Samantha Eisner:@Erika, yes. We haven't discussed internally, but I can give some of my impressions on it Erika Mann:Thanj you Sam! Nadira AL-Araj:It is also possible to attach an elaboration document on the "philosophical" point of view of the CCWG-AP point of view to the open Internet Daniel Dardailler:+1 on using "network of networks" judith hellerstein:+interoperable and standards based. as this works to ensure accessibility for people with disabilities Daniel Dardailler:no strong opinion on Open vs open and interoperability Internet Daniel Dardailler:s/interoperabilty/interoperable Maureen Hilyard:Thank you Marilyn Marc Gauw:Do we agree ? Arsene Tungali:I would love to read Marilyn's comment in a document. Thanks for sharing your thoughts judith hellerstein:do we have a link to the google doc? Daniel Dardailler:I agree that our descrition removes all ambiguity wrt NN Nadira AL-Araj:@Judith after the meeting we will have the link Joke Braeken:correct Nadira. Following the call, we will make the google doc link available to allow for further edits / comments. Marilyn Cade:Why would this group want to change the definition of network of networks? Are we "newbies"? That is sort of a joke. Erika Mann:Judith - yes, Marika send it but we can send it again judith hellerstein:thanks all Marilyn Cade:Thanks. Daniel Dardailler:FYI, the Internet technical reaction to DOI is: why is this needed since we have URLs ? so I doubt ICANN should fund it.. Wale Bakare:Internet itself is a network of international networks, but as Open Internet is about inter-operability and standard of internet. Sylvia Cadena:Just add what you think it is missing when the google doc is shared Sylvia Cadena:sound is breaking up :( Nadira AL-Araj:Hi Asha Wale Bakare:There are components of the standards which would include tranport and application layers protocols Marc Gauw:@Samantha: If the auction-funds are awarded in one-time portion(s), and awards may face the risk to be perceived to have a 'wider scope' than strictly 'Icanns mission', then in Holland you can ask the tax-authorities for an 'upfront tax-ruling'.... I guess it is the same in the USA. Erika Mann:Can't you hear me? Maureen Hilyard:No audio from Erika Xavier Calvez 2:WE can hear you Sam Erika Mann:I hear you Sam Sylvia Cadena:I can't hear Erika, I can't hear Erika though judith hellerstein:I can hear erika now Nadira AL-Araj:Maybe it is not clear that the definition of this term is needed in the context of ICANN Marc Gauw:@Samantha, could you answer my question ? Marc Gauw:@Samantha: If the auction-funds are awarded in one-time portion(s), and awards may face the risk to be perceived to have a 'wider scope' than strictly 'Icanns mission', then in Holland you can ask the tax-authorities for an 'upfront tax-ruling'.... I guess it is the same in the USA. Samantha Eisner:@Marc, there are some proactive processes available through the IRS though they may not be binding opinions. Samantha Eisner:HOWEVER Julie Bisland:mark, please let me know if you'd like a dialout for audio Sylvia Cadena:If the idea is to change open for another term that is inclusive and open -no pun intended- we need some help with the creative terminology. It is quite a challenge to beat what the word open means Daniel Dardailler:In case my mike doesn't work: my comment to follow-up on the infrastructure-in-scope question is that the funds shouldn't go to technology that are completely independent of ICANN, such as 5G, wifi, dsl, etc., since this funding could be used against ICANN in the end, to create e.g. another logical addressing system, names and numbers. Maureen Hilyard:@Sylvia, perhaps inclusive and accessible? Marc Gauw:OK, thanks Hadia Elminiawi:We could say "From the aforementioned broad description and for the purpose of the work of this ccWG Open Internet will be defined (or understood) as...." Stephanie Perrin:fading out Julie Bisland:@Daniel: line is fading in and out. judith hellerstein:@maureen. yes I like that term Maureen Hilyard:@Judith, if it is deemed not appropriate to use "Open" Wale Bakare:It is a bit complicated to strike a balance as majority seems to favour infrastructure-based against the ICANN's mission and core businesses. I can see IXP is a infrastructure. Hadia Elminiawi:In this case we shall not be offering a defintion for the open internet but rather saying that this is the definition that we shall be using Wale Bakare:IMHO, we should just stick to open internet definition that embodies Application and Transport layers Julf Helsingius:Do we really want to go into the layers issue? Samantha Eisner:@Sylvia, my comment is not dependent on who manages the distribution of the funds Wale Bakare:@Julf, I would think so because of ICANN mission and core businesses Samantha Eisner:there is no change in ICANN responsibility to assure adherence to mission regardless of who manages the distribution of the funds Julf Helsingius:@Wale either it should be "open Internet", or "numbers and names" Wale Bakare:ICANN would not want to fund infrastructure projects Julf Helsingius:ICANN could want to fund infrastructure that supprts, let's say, a wider net of root servers Wale Bakare:Thanks, @Julf. Please, are there examples of "wider net of root servers"? Wale Bakare:I mean different to DNS systems? Sylvia Cadena:That will be great to have Samantha. I have not seen that presentation. Sylvia Cadena:Your voice was breaking up so I am not sure if I understood correctly. Marika Konings:@Sylvia - please also see agenda item 5. This is an open action item. Julf Helsingius:@Wale That was just an example I thought of, but there are of course alternatives for DNS being tested Sylvia Cadena:Thanks Marika! Sylvia Cadena:That is what the preamble said. Marilyn Cade:ICANN cannot be funding other DNS systems. That is crazy. Do we belive in a single interoperable root? Has that changed? I recall when the Alt Root guys showed up at ICANN and we had to really address this idea and we did, as ICANN the community. BUT, we believe in a single interoperable root, not alt roots. Otherwise, ICANN does not exist. Wale Bakare:Agreed. I think Security, Stability of DNS-based projects would receive 100% support of ICANN, i think Hadia Elminiawi:totally agree Marika , I understand because I was there from the beginning but the document as it reads looks as if we want to define the term Stephanie Perrin:I agree with what Alan is saying. People don't look up definitions. Asha Hemrajani:yes Wale - those areas would receive strong support Maureen Hilyard:+1 Alan Sylvia Cadena:Yes Alan, very important. Wale Bakare:Thanks, @Asha Manal Ismail:Agree Alan .. so probably not a definition of open Internet but rather where open Internet intesrsects with/ relates to ICANN mission .. Ching Chiao:sounds good Marika Manal Ismail:*examples of where .... Arsene Tungali:Good point Erica about examples Marc Gauw:Erika, lets archieve your clear clarification of the COI part of the board-letter ! :-) Marilyn Cade:I read all the Interest statements of all Board members, as part of the due diligence that I consider important to do as a BC member. Many Board members have "interests" and I am not sure that I think that all of the Liaisons, or even the Board members are fully recusing themselves on decisions that they already know is a conflict. If you participated in contributing to auction funds, of if you are a c contracted party that is asking for a refund, then I do think that you have a real conflict of interest. Jon Nevett:semi-annual Samantha Eisner:@Marilyn, if there are Board level issues you'd like to raise, please contact me and John so we can take a look at those Sylvia Cadena:The group is asking for updates of CoI and DoI on every call with the reminder to update it on the wiki. Nadira AL-Araj:What about looking again of the requirments of the DOI form and edit it accordingly Ching Chiao:Thank you Asha for the clarification Xavier Calvez 2:Transparency on discussions help identify conflict of interests. Once a conflict of interest is identified, the CCWG needs to have a mechanism to enable its conclusions and recommendations to be free of the content that resulted from the conflict. Transparency is not sufficient, it only allows to take the next step when it is needed. This is part of the rationale of the recommendation that the Board made to this working group to establish a mechanism to deal with identified conflict of interest. Julie Bisland:The next CCWG New gTLD Auction Proceeds call will be held on Thursday, 21 September 2017 at 14:00 UTC for 90 minutes. Daniel Dardailler:bye Marc Gauw:Thanks, bye bye Nadira AL-Araj:Thank you all Ching Chiao:Thank you everyone Joke Braeken:thank you all. Bye. Peter Vergote (ccNSO):Bye all Manal Ismail:Thank you all .. Bye .. Sylvia Cadena:Bye, thank you all Maureen Hilyard:Thanks Erica bye all Asha Hemrajani:Thank you and bye Wale Bakare:thanks. Bye all!

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For your review - Google doc to review examples
by Marika Konings 15 Sep '17

15 Sep '17

In relation to action item #6 (“Staff to create google doc with all examples received to date and invite CCWG to comment on how each of those examples is consistent with the proposed objectives as well as ICANN's mission”), please see https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zQ66hCxrboAJPKeuU6nHwzHQwmU6g_3kS0JUSSC… and add your comments / suggestions to the document. As explained in the document, the objective is to review and analyze the examples that have been provided to date in relation to new gTLD Auction Proceeds allocation. As ultimately allocation needs to occur consistent with ICANN’s mission as well as the objectives set by the CCWG, you are requested to indicate for each of these examples with which part of ICANN’s mission it is considered consistent as well as which part of the proposed objectives. You may also indicate if you do not consider the proposed example consistent with either ICANN’s mission and/or the objectives. Best regards, Marika From: <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Marika Konings <marika.konings(a)icann.org> Date: Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 17:45 To: "ccwg-auctionproceeds(a)icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds(a)icann.org> Subject: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Notes and action items from today's meeting Dear All, Please find below the notes and action items from today’s CCWG Auction Proceeds meeting. For those of you that were not able to attend the meeting, please take particular note of action item #1. Best regards, Marika Notes - CCWG AP Meeting - 7 September 2017 These high-level notes are designed to help the CCWG navigate through the content of the call and are not meant as a substitute for the transcript and/or recording. The MP3, transcript, and chat are provided separately and are posted on the wiki at: https://community.icann.org/x/DLHDAw<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_…>. 1. Roll Call * Attendance will be taken from AC room * Please remember to state your name for transcription purposes and mute your microphones when not speaking 2. Welcome / DOI * Note that letter from the Board is on the agenda for today's meeting - it already drew some discussion on the list, also from the perspective of DOI. 3. Review redrafted objectives and examples i. Review and discuss input received concerning redrafted objectives * Note latest draft that has been circulated. Is this now at a stage where people feel comfortable to preliminary agreeing to this version, noting that there are still some open items that need to be addressed and may impact the final wording. * Third item could be merged into first one so it would read 'Benefit the development, distribution, evolution and structures/projects that support the Internet's unique identifier systems'. Agreement to update this bullet accordingly. Some wordsmithing may need to be done later, but intent is clear. * Preliminary agreement by those on the call on the following proposed objectives: * Specific objectives of new gTLD Auction Proceeds fund allocation are: * 'Benefit the development, distribution, evolution and structures/projects that support the Internet's unique identifier systems'; * Benefit structures or projects that directly support the Internet's unique identifier systems; * Benefit capacity building and underserved populations, and; * Benefit the Open Internet. [Note, the definition of Open Internet is subject to a separate conversation] New gTLD Auction Proceeds are expected to be allocated in a manner consistent with ICANN’s mission. Action item #1: CCWG to review proposed objectives for new gTLD Auction Proceeds fund allocation that achieved preliminary agreement by those on the call (see above). If there are any concerns or objections, members/participants are encouraged to share these with the mailing list as soon as possible. Action item #2: Staff to create list of preliminary agreements to which this agreement and previous one will be added. ii. Review and discuss input received on definition of ‘open internet’ * See latest draft circulated on mailing list just prior to this meeting which aims to bring together the different versions and comments that have been received to date. * Is 'Open Internet' too identified with Net Neutrality? Consider a possible alternative wording such as Open and Interoperable Internet or open interoperable Internet. Not create an impression that this group is trying to define a term which is already being used in other contexts. Also make clear that it concerns a network of networks. Not about defining Open Internet but how fund allocation might fit into the broader scope of Open Internet. But some may just ignore this nuance so need to consider whether to use different terminology. * Some concerns expressed about some of the bullet points - CCWG to consider whether all of these belong here. Also consider making the statements more high level and moving some of the examples to a different section / annex. Providing examples may also trigger proposals that are focused on those specific examples so may not be advisable. Examples may be helpful for evaluators though - could consider not publishing the examples with call for proposals but as guidance for evaluators or as part of an FAQ for possible applicants? This discussion may be premature as materials for applicants and/or evaluators are for a later stage. Focus on examples here is to ensure that there is a common understanding on what the focus and objectives of fund allocation is. * While this group is focused on gTLDs, it should be recognized that ccTLDs are very important contributors to increasing access. Perhaps this could become a neutral statement about the importance of an online presence and providing information about all kinds of TLDs? * Even though infrastructure is related to ICANN's mission it is not part of ICANN's mission so it is not clear that auction proceeds could be used appropriately on infrastructure. As such, it may not be appropriate to include reference to items that are not considered within scope of ICANN's mission. The funds shouldn't go to technology that are completely independent of ICANN, such as 5G, wifi, dsl, etc., since this funding could be used against ICANN in the end, to create e.g. another logical addressing system, names and numbers. Need to look further into the question of whether infrastructure is considered consistent with ICANN's mission or not. * If the auction-funds are awarded in one-time portion(s), and awards may face the risk to be perceived to have a 'wider scope' than strictly 'Icanns mission', then in Holland you can ask the tax-authorities for an 'upfront tax-ruling'.... I guess it is the same in the USA.? There are some proactive processes available through the IRS though they may not be binding opinions. It is not just about the IRS but there is also the broader ICANN community. If there is not agreement amongst the Board and/or community whether something is within ICANN's mission, it could result in an accusation of violation of the Bylaws so there would need to be agreement amongst community and Board about what is within ICANN's mission. Risk of expanding mission statement through work of this group which may not be welcomed by all. * There is no change in ICANN responsibility to assure adherence to mission regardless of who manages the distribution of the funds Action item #3: Staff to circulate google doc link to the mailing list. (see https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HV3dzTkKIYCyiRbzPW3Uk3MctwK0BQTth39DitI…<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…>) Action item #4: CCWG to review Open Internet Definition as available on the google doc link and suggest updates/changes for CCWG consideration Action item #5: Sam Einsner to review language and provide feedback on whether there are any concerns from an ICANN Org perspective iii. Review examples * Add examples that were circulated to the list by Tony. Action item #6: Staff to create google doc with all examples received to date and invite CCWG to comment on how each of those examples is consistent with the proposed objectives as well as ICANN's mission. 4. Review response received from the ICANN Board and possible next steps * See Board response received on 1 September. * Now for CCWG to consider response, if any, to the letter as well as how feedback is expected to be addressed as part of the deliberations. * Re. DOI - importance of being open and transparent in all parts of the deliberations. May require further statement / clarification. * Main issue for Board is concern about perception. CCWG needs to be transparent about any/all decisions. CCWG to consider to clearly state if they have a certain interest in the outcome when stating certain positions (for example, if you or your organisation is interested/planning to apply for funding to support infrastructure projects, make sure to make that clear when advocating to add infrastructure as an objective). * May be helpful to have a standard / regular legal briefing on COI and what constitutes a COI? * Transparency on discussions help identify conflict of interests. Once a conflict of interest is identified, the CCWG needs to have a mechanism to enable its conclusions and recommendations to be free of the content that resulted from the conflict. Transparency is not sufficient, it only allows to take the next step when it is needed. This is part of the rationale of the recommendation that the Board made to this working group to establish a mechanism to deal with identified conflict of interest. * Consider further during next meeting. Action item #7: CCWG to review their respective SOI/DOIs and make sure that these are up to date. 5. Update on status of input from ICANN Finance & Legal on the different options that have been discussed in relation to charter question #7 – should ICANN Org have a role in the solicitation and evaluation of proposals (e.g. through internal structure - new unit, within ICANN; externally - new built entity that would only focus on this work; externally - working with already existing entities) * Xavier and Sam are working on a presentation which would outline the different options (internal / external). 6. Confirm next steps & next meeting (Thursday 21 September at 14.00 UTC). Marika Konings Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Email: marika.konings(a)icann.org<mailto:marika.konings@icann.org> Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO Find out more about the GNSO by taking our interactive courses[learn.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__learn.icann.org_courses…> and visiting the GNSO Newcomer pages[gnso.icann.org]<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_sites_gn…>.

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