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REminder
by Lars Hoffmann June 22, 2015

June 22, 2015

Dear all, Please remember our face-to-face meeting today in Retiro A (http://buenosaires53.icann.org/en/schedule/mon-ctn) at 13:00 UTC Below you find a reminder of the agenda and relevant documents are attached - please note that printouts of these will be available during the meeting. A copy of this email will go out to the GAC mailing list and please remind your colleagues that the meeting is open to everyone. Very best wishes, Lars Proposed Agenda Cross Community Working Group on the Use of Country and Territory Names as Top-Level Domains Monday 22 June 2015 1. Welcome 2. Presentation of achievements 2nd Progress Report (draft) 3. Discussion of Risks and Benefits for unrestricted use of two-character strings if not in conflict with an existing ccTLD or any applicable string similarity rules (ASCII) 4. Coordination with the GAC¹s effort on the protection of geographic other community efforts regarding country and territory names in the DNS 5. Roadmap to ICANN54 6. AOB

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Options Paper + Options on 2-letter codes
by Lars Hoffmann June 20, 2015

June 20, 2015

Dear all, In preparation for Monday¹s meeting in Buenos Aires (http://buenosaires53.icann.org/en/schedule/mon-ctn) please find attached the most recent clean versions of our Straw Man Options Paper and the overview document for 2-letter code options. A separate meeting invite, agenda and a first draft of the Second Progress Report will follow shortly. Many thanks and best wishes, Lars

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With AC chat Attendance MP3 CTN meeting - Monday 8 June 2015
by Nathalie Peregrine June 9, 2015

June 9, 2015

Apologies, AC chat added From: Nathalie Peregrine <nathalie.peregrine(a)icann.org<mailto:nathalie.peregrine@icann.org>> Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2015 at 3:07 PM To: "ctn-crosscom(a)icann.org<mailto:ctn-crosscom@icann.org>" <ctn-crosscom(a)icann.org<mailto:ctn-crosscom@icann.org>> Cc: "gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>" <gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org>> Subject: [gnso-secs] Attendance MP3 CTN meeting - Monday 8 June 2015 Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Cross-Community Working Group on Use of Country/Territory Names as TLDs meeting held on Monday 8 June 2015 at 19:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ctn-08jun15-en.mp3 On page: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may>http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jun>jun<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jun> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: ccNSO Ron Sherwood, .vi Annebeth Lange, .no (Co-Chair) Joke Braeken, .eu Jordi Iparraguirre, ccNSO Council NomCom appointee Paul Szyndler, .au (Co-Chair) Mirjana Tasic, .rs GNSO Heather Forrest, IPC (Co-Chair) Carlos Raul Guttierez, NPOC Susan Payne NTAG Griffin Barnett, IPC At-Large Cheryl Langdon-Orr ISO Jaap Akkerhuis Apologies: none ICANN staff: Bart Boswinkel Lars Hoffman Patrick Jones Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives:http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ctn-crosscom/ Wiki page:https://community.icann.org/x/X7XhAg Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie **************** Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 8 June 2015: Nathalie Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to the CCWG on Use of Country/ Territory Names as TLDs on 8 June 2015 Jordi Iparraguirre:hi! Annebeth Lange, ccNSO:Hi Jordi Nathalie Peregrine:Please all remember to mute your phones and mics when not speaking, thank you! Bart Boswinkel:Dear all, Jaap and I will work on the text on procedure ISO 3166 MA on new entries into the list Nathalie Peregrine:Laura Hutchison has joined the call Susan Payne:my mike does not work sorry I will try to call in Lars Hoffmann:@susan - do you need a dial out? Joke Braeken:apologies : I missed the first few minutes, and had to dial in again. all fine now. Nathalie Peregrine:Young Eum-Lee has joined the call Lars Hoffmann:this is our meeting in BA: http://buenosaires53.icann.org/en/schedule/mon-ctn Susan Payne:hi I finally managed to dial in, sorry for delay. I will slot in at a suitable point Lars Hoffmann:thanks susan. Carlos Raul:blurring of the distintion and two separate governance regimes Laura Hutchison:Hi - sorry I don't have a working mic. I can see Susan's point but agree with Annebeth's point that in the few instances where the ccTLD is operated more as a gTLD then that is down to the individual country choice. I would agreed that it needs to be referenced in the paper as something that blurs the lines of the general definitions. Susan Payne:Paul, there is still a GAC group, it may be a new one but it has had at least one meeting Susan Payne:I take your point it may not havebeen so active however Paul Szyndler:Susan: I couldnt recall the name of the "umbrella group" that sat over the one that was addressing geo issues. I understand all of the "subgroups" have been escalated in status. But then, its all just mechanics..... Susan Payne:ah, I misunderstood you, sorry. I cannot recall name of the umbrella group either. Future round issues perhaps Cheryl Langdon-Orr:makes sense Lars Hoffmann:Here is the joint gnso-ccnso session.http://buenosaires53.icann.org/en/schedule/mon-ccnso-gnso-council Laura Hutchison: That sounds like a good suggestion from Lars. It also means that if we can't manage to get GAC engagement in the WG, then we could at least see if we could get some written suggestions and thoughts on the key issues. Cheryl Langdon-Orr:indeed Laura Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):apoligies, wrong time zone convertion Carlos Raul:coffee for Heather F. Young eum Lee:thanks Jordi Iparraguirre:ok, thanks and see you in BsAs! Susan Payne:Yes, safe trip everyone, see you in BA Mirjana Tasic .rs:bye jaap akkerhuis:Bye bye Cheryl Langdon-Orr:safe travels Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye Ron Sherwood:Bye all, Thank you Laura Hutchison:Thanks and see everyone in Buenos Aires

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Attendance MP3 CTN meeting - Monday 8 June 2015
by Nathalie Peregrine June 9, 2015

June 9, 2015

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Cross-Community Working Group on Use of Country/Territory Names as TLDs meeting held on Monday 8 June 2015 at 19:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ctn-08jun15-en.mp3 On page: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may>http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jun>jun<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jun> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: ccNSO Ron Sherwood, .vi Annebeth Lange, .no (Co-Chair) Joke Braeken, .eu Jordi Iparraguirre, ccNSO Council NomCom appointee Paul Szyndler, .au (Co-Chair) Mirjana Tasic, .rs GNSO Heather Forrest, IPC (Co-Chair) Carlos Raul Guttierez, NPOC Susan Payne NTAG Griffin Barnett, IPC At-Large Cheryl Langdon-Orr ISO Jaap Akkerhuis Apologies: none ICANN staff: Bart Boswinkel Lars Hoffman Patrick Jones Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives:http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ctn-crosscom/ Wiki page:https://community.icann.org/x/X7XhAg Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie **************** Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 8 June 2015:

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Agenda and Summary Document
by Lars Hoffmann June 5, 2015

June 5, 2015

Dear all, In preparation for Monday’s call you find below the proposed draft agenda. Attached you find a summary document that collates all comments submitted so far that will form the core of our discussion on Monday. Very best. Lars Proposed Agenda CWG on country and territory names as TLDs is scheduled Monday 8 June 2015 at 19:00 UTC (other places: http://tinyurl.com/owutcdz) 1. Welcome 2. Review of Comments submitted 3. Proposed outreach to SO/ACs for 3-letter codes 4. Agenda for BA 5. AOB

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Next meeting
by Lars Hoffmann June 5, 2015

June 5, 2015

Dear all, Apologies for the late email, but due to a number of scheduling issues we will cancel next week¹s call. Instead we will resume our calls on Monday 8 June at 20:00 UTC (local times <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CWG+Country+and+Te rritory+Names+-+WG+Call&iso=20150608T19&p1=1440&ah=1> ). A detailed agenda will follow. This also means, that there will be more time for participants to send back their views on the 2-letter code options. I have attached all documents received so far. In time for the next meeting I will send out a collated document. Please note, if you send a document please feel free to post directly to the list, I will collate it from there. Many thanks and best wishes, Lars

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Attendance MP3 CTN meeting - Monday 18 May 2015
by Nathalie Peregrine June 3, 2015

June 3, 2015

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Cross-Community Working Group on Use of Country/Territory Names as TLDs meeting held on Monday 18 May 2015 at 20:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ctn-18may15-en.mp3<http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=NrFWbrBstcrPWP369qgbqlXiSKeL20xnUXz…> On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may>m<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may>ay<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: ccNSO Ron Sherwood, .vi Annebeth Lange, .no (Co-Chair) Joke Braeken, .eu GNSO Heather Forrest, IPC (Co-Chair) Colin O`Brien, IPC Carlos Raul Guttierez, NPOC Maxim Alzoba, NTAG Robin Gross, NCUC Susan Payne NTAG At-Large Cheryl Langdon-Orr ISO Jaap Akkerhuis GAC Olga Cavalli Apologies: Jordi Iparraguirre ICANN staff: Marika Konings Bart Boswinkel Lars Hoffman Nathalie Peregrine Ozan Sahin ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Mailing list archives:http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ctn-crosscom/ Wiki page:https://community.icann.org/x/X7XhAg Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie **************** Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 18 May 2015: Lars Hoffmann: Dear all, welcome to the CCWG on Use of Country/ Territory Names as TLDs on 18 May 2015 Olga Cavalli - GAC Argentina: Hi Lars! Ron Sherwood: Hi everyone Bart Boswinkel (staff): Hi All Nathalie Peregrine: Welcome! Olga Cavalli - GAC Argentina: how do I mute my phone? Nathalie Peregrine: *6 Nathalie Peregrine: and then *6 again to unmute, it takes a few seconds to work though, so we'll keep this in mind when you raise your hand Olga Cavalli - GAC Argentina: im on mute now thanks Heather Forrest: Hello everyone, thank you for joining the call. We'll get started shortly. Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): Hello Everyone Olga Cavalli - GAC Argentina: hi has the document that was shown in the screen been sent by mail? Bart Boswinkel (staff): @ Olga Annebeth Lange, Norid: Annebeth here, can you hear me? Heather Forrest: Not yet Annebeth Bart Boswinkel (staff): Yes it was send Saturday Carlos Raul (GNSO): yes Annebeth Nathalie Peregrine: Please remember to ute your AC mics when not speaking Annebeth Lange, Norid: Awfully quiet out there. Cant hear you Heather Forrest: Can you hear Nathalie speaking now? Annebeth Lange, Norid: No Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): positove Annebeth Lange, Norid: OK now Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): connected via adobe Nathalie Peregrine: Annebeth, when this hapens, it's worth logging out and back into the AC room Nathalie Peregrine: Marika Konings is also on the call jaap akkerhuis: My Adobe connection is confused, I need to restart Nathalie Peregrine: Jaap, being on Firefox helps Annebeth Lange, Norid: Bad sound, Bart Annebeth Lange, Norid: Impossible to hear you, Barat Heather Forrest: Annebeth- it might be your end Heather Forrest: I hear Bart fine Olga Cavalli - GAC Argentina: there is noise Annebeth Lange, Norid: The sound goes back and forth, Bart Nathalie Peregrine: Please all mute your mics, the disturbance is coming from AC mics Carlos Raul (GNSO): the "corsica" TLD has just been released Nathalie Peregrine: Annebeth, we can dial out to you if you are having AC audio issues jaap akkerhuis: BAck on line. Stupid Adobe somtimes doesn;t honour the sound preferences Cheryl Langdon-Orr: 'formative years'... In like it :-) :-) :-) Annebeth Lange, Norid: You disappear, Bart Nathalie Peregrine: I hear Bart fine, so it is an issue with your AC audio Nathalie Peregrine: please close and re open the room Cheryl Langdon-Orr: best get a dial out Annebeth... that audio is stable Nathalie Peregrine: Annebet, please provide your nr via private message to me if you prefer Olga Cavalli - GAC Argentina: hi can comments be made to this document? if so which is Cheryl Langdon-Orr: good sound Jaap :-) Olga Cavalli - GAC Argentina: the due date? Heather Forrest: Sorry, Olga - not quite sure what you ean Heather Forrest: mean Nathalie Peregrine: Please remember to start your names for transcription purposes Nathalie Peregrine: *state Cheryl Langdon-Orr: all good. thanks Bart Olga Cavalli - GAC Argentina: Heather, just to know if members of the CCWG can comment on the new revised text Annebeth Lange, Norid: I am sorry, my net is awful tonight. The sound is falling out all the time. I haven't heard half of what has been said Olga Cavalli - GAC Argentina: thanks Heather Heather Forrest: Carlos - please comment Nathalie Peregrine: I have unmuted him Cheryl Langdon-Orr: I trust that is indeed well understood Carlos... our work is not over yet!!! Olga Cavalli - GAC Argentina: cannot hear annabeth Heather Forrest: Annebeth - we cannot hear you Heather Forrest: Can you hear me now? Cheryl Langdon-Orr: great :-) Susan Payne: agree, think very useful to do this Lars Hoffmann: @cheryl: notes and will amend for the next version. Lars Hoffmann: *noted Carlos Raul (GNSO): excel sheet Cheryl Langdon-Orr: so to assist in doing what Annabeth proposes can staff send us the table as an extract Annebeth Lange, Norid: Whendo Annebeth Lange, Norid: When do you need input, Lars, to have it on a document for our next week Carlos Raul (GNSO): so table can continue developing Carlos Raul (GNSO): but text comments should come in by June 1st Carlos Raul (GNSO): rotating times Susan Payne: So by this Friday? Carlos Raul (GNSO): morning for whom? UTC? Annebeth Lange, Norid: Next wednesday Susan Payne: ok thanks Annebeth Lange, Norid: UTC, Carlos Cheryl Langdon-Orr: we can but try... Carlos Raul (GNSO): please be reminded that we have now Olga on Board in terms of times, and we want to respect everybody's 6 hours of sleep between midnight and sunrise Cheryl Langdon-Orr: who gets that 6 hrs? certainly not if you live in the southern hemisphere @carlos not in ICANN work! thus the rotation / share the pain. being appreciated... Cheryl Langdon-Orr: you need coffee perhaps @Heather Annebeth Lange, Norid: I actually have a problem on the 1st June as I am in a CENTR meeting in Stockholm that I cannot avoid. Is it possible to have the meeting on the 2nd instead? Susan Payne: Do we know when our meeting will be in BA yet? Carlos Raul (GNSO): I mean 5 hours, because one of the slots used to start at my midnight, but it would be 3am for Olga. that's why we are all flying to Buenos Aires :)👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Susan Payne: thnx Lars Hoffmann: @annebeth - let's coordinate the timing on-list after the call. i can send out a doodle to schedule the two remaining pre-BA calls. Cheryl Langdon-Orr: can do the 2nd if it avoids other calls so OK for 1000-1100 UTC Annebeth Lange, Norid: Great, Lars Carlos Raul (GNSO): yes Carlos Raul (GNSO): ok Carlos Raul (GNSO): it was a comment to Olga Heather Forrest: We couldn't hear you, Carlos Heather Forrest: Let's try your sound again Carlos Raul (GNSO): yes I'm on a mobile, the problem is on my side Carlos Raul (GNSO): now I lost ALL audio Carlos Raul (GNSO): sorry Cheryl Langdon-Orr: good point @lars Carlos Raul (GNSO): missed Lars point Carlos Raul (GNSO): so please write it down Cheryl Langdon-Orr: great thanks @Olga Heather Forrest: @ Carlos - Lars asked whether the GAC WG was working on a definition of geographic and community names Carlos Raul (GNSO): ok Carlos Raul (GNSO): Daniel Carlos Raul (GNSO): go ahead Susan Susan Payne: I thinknCarlos is first Heather Forrest: yes Annebeth Lange, Norid: Carlos, we have not agreed in the group that this definition is what we end up with Carlos Raul (GNSO): it is a proposal yes Nathalie Peregrine: @ Carlos i have muted your mic to cut the echo Carlos Raul (GNSO): it is external, it is not a list, and it sets boundaries around country names Carlos Raul (GNSO): sorry Nathalie, I'm on a lousy mobile connection with an even lousier y Carlos Raul (GNSO): terminal Nathalie Peregrine: No worry Carlos! I just didn;t want you to think there was an issue Carlos Raul (GNSO): no prob Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): thanks everybody Carlos Raul (GNSO): old hand, sorry Olga Cavalli - GAC Argentina: bye thanks! Cheryl Langdon-Orr: good call thanks all... off to your well deserved coffee now @heather :-) :-) :-) bye! Lars Hoffmann: Thanks everyone. I will send an email with a reminder of deadlines etc. Annebeth Lange, Norid: Thanks everybody, and thanks to Heather for chairing the call! jaap akkerhuis: Good, by all Susan Payne: thanks, bye Heather Forrest: Thank you everyone Ron Sherwood: Bye everyone...

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UCTN WG in Buenos Aires / Remote Participation
by Kristina Nordstrom June 2, 2015

June 2, 2015

Dear all, The UCTN Working Group will meet in Buenos Aires as follows: Monday 22 June 13:00-14:30 ART (16:00-17:30 UTC) Cross-Community Working Group on Use of Country/Territory Names as TLDs; Retiro A Please let me know if you wish to participate in this meeting remotely. Kind regards, Kristina

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19:00 UTC!
by Lars Hoffmann May 28, 2015

May 28, 2015

Dear all, I accidentally wrote the meeting will be at 20:00 please disregard. The next meeting will be Monday 8 June at 19:00 UTC (local times <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=CWG+Country+and+Te rritory+Names+-+WG+Call&iso=20150608T19&p1=1440&ah=1> ) Apologies Lars

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Potential Options
by Lars Hoffmann May 27, 2015

May 27, 2015

Dear all, Please find attached two more responses by Laura and Joke. Best wishes, Lars

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