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[ntfy-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Meeting Invitation: Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group Thursday 4 June 2015 at 13:00 UTC
by Dillon, Chris June 3, 2015

June 3, 2015

Dear colleagues, Please find below the draft agenda for tomorrow's special meeting on recommendations for the final report: Draft agenda 1. Welcome 2. Roll call 3. Statements of interest 4. Draft final report v4.2<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/53778163/Draft_Final_V4-2.…> (especially recommendations p.17-18) 5. Date of next meeting 6. AOB Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon<http://www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon>

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MP3 Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP WG meeting 2 June 2015
by Nathalie Peregrine June 2, 2015

June 2, 2015

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group call held on Tuesday 2 June 2015 at 13:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-02jun15-en.mp3<http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=NrFWbrBstcrPWP369qgbqlXiSKeL20xnUXz…> On page: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may>http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#j<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jun>un<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#jun> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar Attendees: Chris Dillon – NCSG Sara Bockey – RrSG Ubolthip Sethakaset – Individual Amr Elsadr – NCUC Peter Green (Zhang Zuan) – NCUC Justine Chew – Individual Jim Galvin - RySG Apologies: Petter Rindforth – IPC Wen Zhai - ICANN Staff Julie Hedlund Lars Hoffmann Glen de St Gery Nathalie Peregrine ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Wiki page: http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx Thank you. Kind regards, Nathalie Adobe Chat Transcript for Tuesday 2 June 2015: Nathalie Peregrine:Welcome to the Translation and Transliteration PDP Working Group on Thursday, 2nd June 2015 Jim Galvin:hi ... dialing in now Jim Galvin:and now on the line Jim Galvin:no problem waiting a bit longer given the special time Rudi Vansnick:indeed, sometimes Adobe is not willing to allow you to conect Chris Dillon:But we love it really Justine Chew:Hello, are we short on participants? Chris Dillon:A little, but I'm not for giving up Peter Green (CONAC):Hi Sorry for being late Lars Hoffmann:i agree with Jim that the *could* should go. Lars Hoffmann:also it will become 'preliminary' should be taken off. Rudi Vansnick:i would also prefer to remove "could" but I'm not a native english speaker Rudi Vansnick:unlikely to exist soon : do not forget the timing of this report being approved is approx a few months from now ... Rudi Vansnick:at their own expense ... Sara Bockey:Is statement "consistency would be an issue" truly necessary. If we are recommending it is not desirable and at the requesters expense, and not public, is this last sentence necessary? Amr Elsadr:Apologies for being late. Had another meeting that ran longer than expected. Justine Chew 2:Any parties requiring SUCH transformation are free to do it ad hoc outside the Whois replacement system at their own expense while ensuring their exercise meets their exact transformation requirements. Amr Elsadr:If our recommendations are meant to be implemented immediately, there's no need to really describe it as the "whois replacement". Lars Hoffmann:@jim +1 Amr Elsadr:Agree with Jim. Sara Bockey:@Jim +1 Jim Galvin:Could be numbers for example. Amr Elsadr:"supported by" is what I'm seeing in the AC room. Amr Elsadr:Would we like to pluralize "language or script" in rec #3? Rudi Vansnick:at the end it is the registrar who offers a platform (form) for registration based on their knowledge of languages Amr Elsadr:@Rudi: +1 Sara Bockey:Yes, it seems to go against universal acceptance a bit Amr Elsadr:@Chris: That sounds good to me. :) Amr Elsadr:@Chris: +1 Jim Galvin:I understand the desire to "protect" registrars from the requirement that they might have to support all languages and scripts. Jim Galvin:I think that might be part of what is hidden in this recommendation. I'm wondering if we could say it differently, although I don't have a suggestion offhand which is why I was inclined to drop it. Amr Elsadr:@Jim: Yes..., a requirement to support all languages/scripts would be especially burdensome on local up and coming registrars trying to serve their local communities. Amr Elsadr:..., which would probably also be reflected on the registrants paying for the services they are (or aren't) receiving. Amr Elsadr:Not a suspicion. It's a bottom line. Registrars are businesses, not charities. :) Jim Galvin:+1 chris Jim Galvin:do we mean "consistent" or "self-consistent"? Justine Chew 2:what about "identified"? Amr Elsadr:For the record, I'm fine with "tagged". Jim Galvin:I'm also fine with tagged. Amr Elsadr:@Jim: Not sure what you mean by self-consistent? Amr Elsadr:Consistency is an RAA requirement. Response consistency was also an issue addressed by the "thick" whois PDP in that context. Amr Elsadr:Consistency in the RAA is against standards made clear in the 2013 RAA. Justine Chew 2:@Jim: I think the term "self-consistent" has a less clear meaning than "consistent" Jim Galvin:If that's our definition of consistency we should say that. I'm thinking a footnote that "defines" consistency is needed. Amr Elsadr:@Jim: +1. Sounds good. Rudi Vansnick:@Jim : +1 Justine Chew 2:Fine with me. Rudi Vansnick:so 1 to 4 : closed discssion ? Rudi Vansnick:ok Jim Galvin:@Amr +1 Rudi Vansnick:just something that comes to my mind : rec#1 : how could one see the registrar has transformed the contact data at their own expense ? Amr Elsadr:@Rudi: That's an interesting question. The registrant could submit a second set of transformed data that the registrar can display. Sara Bockey:Does rec #5 run against rec #3? Registrant is not necessarily providing local script, but script supported by the registrar Jim Galvin:Going back to Amr's original point, what needs to happen is we need to know what is the "original authoritative data". Jim Galvin:Then all other data is "transformed", it needs to be flagged as such, and the source of the transformation needs to be noted. Amr Elsadr:@Jim: +1. Pointing out the authoritative set would eliminate the concern behind who transformed the second set of data. Jim Galvin:So the display is "two blocks" of the same data, flagged appropriately. Jim Galvin:@Amr - there's not necessarily a concern about who transformed the data but I think it would be useful to know the source. Rudi Vansnick:@Jim : +1 Amr Elsadr:@Jim: Yes. Although the source of the transformation is helpful, do we want to recommend a contractual requirement to display this? This is porbably a question the WG needs to answer. Sara Bockey:@Amr - agree Jim Galvin:@Amr - additional discussion would be good. I think it would be helpful but would like to hear other points of view Amr Elsadr:I agree that it "might" be helpful. It does not necessarily guarantee any added accuracy, though. This depends on the arbitrary ability of whoever is performing the transformation. Sara Bockey:thank you everyone! Jim Galvin:bye thanks all Rudi Vansnick:thanks a lot Chris Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye. Peter Green (CONAC):bye all Chris Dillon:Many thanks and goodbye till Thursday.

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Special meeting on final report recommendations: Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group Tuesday, 02 June 2015 at 13:00 UTC
by Dillon, Chris June 1, 2015

June 1, 2015

Dear colleagues, This is a reminder about tomorrow's special meeting (at Tuesday 2 June at 13:00 UTC) on recommendations for the T&T final report. Please find the latest version of the draft final report updated in the light of last Thursday's meeting attached. Tomorrow's meeting is also an opportunity for members who usually have other commitments during our regular Thursday meetings to take part. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon From: owner-ntfy-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg(a)icann.org<mailto:owner-ntfy-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org> [mailto:owner-ntfy-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org] On Behalf Of Terri Agnew Sent: 28 May 2015 21:52 To: ntfy-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg(a)icann.org<mailto:ntfy-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org> Cc: gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> Subject: [ntfy-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Meeting Invitation: Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group Tuesday, 02 June 2015 at 13:00 UTC Dear All, The next Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group teleconference is scheduled for Tuesday, 02 June 2015 at 1300 UTC 06:00 PDT, 09:00 EDT, 14:00 London, 15:00 CET For other places see: http://tinyurl.com/nay9685 A calendar invitation will be sent shortly after this email. If you do not receive it, please download the ical invitation attached to this email. Adobe Connect<http://icann.adobeconnect.com/gnsocontactinfopdpwg/> room<http://icann.adobeconnect.com/gnsocontactinfopdpwg/> Mailing list archives<http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg/%20> Wiki page<https://community.icann.org/x/FTR-Ag%20> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page<http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> The dial-in details are below - please let me know if you require a dial-out. Please confirm your dial-out requests GNSO Secretariats gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> _____________________________________________________________________ Participant passcode: CONTACT Dial in numbers: Country Toll Numbers Freephone/ Toll Free Number ARGENTINA 0800-777-0519 AUSTRALIA ADELAIDE: 61-8-8121-4842 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA BRISBANE: 61-7-3102-0944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA CANBERRA: 61-2-6100-1944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA MELBOURNE: 61-3-9010-7713 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA PERTH: 61-8-9467-5223 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA SYDNEY: 61-2-8205-8129 1-800-657-260 AUSTRIA 43-1-92-81-113 0800-005-259 BELGIUM 32-2-400-9861 0800-3-8795 BRAZIL 55-11-3958-0779 0800-7610651 CHILE 1230-020-2863 CHINA CHINA A: 86-400-810-4789 10800-712-1670 CHINA CHINA B: 86-400-810-4789 10800-120-1670 COLOMBIA 01800-9-156474 CROATIA 080-08-06-309 CZECH REPUBLIC 420-2-25-98-56-64 800-700-177 DENMARK 45-7014-0284 8088-8324 ESTONIA 800-011-1093 FINLAND 358-9-5424-7162 0-800-9-14610 FRANCE LYON: 33-4-26-69-12-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE MARSEILLE: 33-4-86-06-00-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE PARIS: 33-1-70-70-60-72 080-511-1496 GERMANY 49-69-2222-20362 0800-664-4247 GREECE 30-80-1-100-0687 00800-12-7312 HONG KONG 852-3001-3863 800-962-856 HUNGARY 36-1-700-8856 06-800-12755 INDIA BANGALORE: 91-80-61275204 INDIA MUMBAI: 91-22-61501629 INDIA INDIA A: 000-800-852-1268 INDIA INDIA B: 000-800-001-6305 INDIA INDIA C: 1800-300-00491 INDONESIA 001-803-011-3982 IRELAND 353-1-246-7646 1800-992-368 ISRAEL 1-80-9216162 ITALY MILAN: 39-02-3600-6007 800-986-383 ITALY ROME: 39-06-8751-6018 800-986-383 ITALY TORINO: 39-011-510-0118 800-986-383 JAPAN OSAKA: 81-6-7878-2631 0066-33-132439 JAPAN TOKYO: 81-3-6868-2631 0066-33-132439 LATVIA 8000-3185 LUXEMBOURG 352-27-000-1364 8002-9246 MALAYSIA 1-800-81-3065 MEXICO GUADALAJARA (JAL): 52-33-3208-7310 001-866-376-9696 MEXICO MEXICO CITY: 52-55-5062-9110 001-866-376-9696 MEXICO MONTERREY: 52-81-2482-0610 001-866-376-9696 NETHERLANDS 31-20-718-8588 0800-023-4378 NEW ZEALAND 64-9-970-4771 0800-447-722 NORWAY 47-21-590-062 800-15157 PANAMA 011-001-800-5072065 PERU 0800-53713 PHILIPPINES 63-2-858-3716 1800-111-42453 POLAND 00-800-1212572 PORTUGAL 8008-14052 ROMANIA 40-31-630-01-79 RUSSIA 8-10-8002-0144011 SAUDI ARABIA 800-8-110087 SINGAPORE 65-6883-9230 800-120-4663 SLOVAK REPUBLIC 421-2-322-422-25 0800-002066 SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-80414 SOUTH KOREA 82-2-6744-1083 00798-14800-7352 SPAIN 34-91-414-25-33 800-300-053 SWEDEN 46-8-566-19-348 0200-884-622 SWITZERLAND 41-44-580-6398 0800-120-032 TAIWAN 886-2-2795-7379 00801-137-797 THAILAND 001-800-1206-66056 TURKEY 00-800-151-0516 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES 8000-35702370 UNITED KINGDOM BIRMINGHAM: 44-121-210-9025 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM GLASGOW: 44-141-202-3225 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LEEDS: 44-113-301-2125 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LONDON: 44-20-7108-6370 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM MANCHESTER: 44-161-601-1425 0808-238-6029 URUGUAY 000-413-598-3421 USA 1-517-345-9004 866-692-5726 VENEZUELA 0800-1-00-3702 Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew

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Meeting Invitation: Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group Tuesday, 02 June 2015 at 13:00 UTC
by Dillon, Chris May 29, 2015

May 29, 2015

Dear colleagues, Please find versions of the public comment review tool and draft final report updated in the light of yesterday's meeting attached. The main change is the addition of a list of suggestions for further policy work to the report. We have scheduled an additional meeting on Tuesday 2 June at 13:00 UTC. That meeting is also an opportunity for members who usually have other commitments during our regular Thursday meetings to take part. Please note that we will be focussing on the final report's recommendations during the meeting. The review tool is not on the agenda, but may still be discussed on this list. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon From: owner-ntfy-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg(a)icann.org [mailto:owner-ntfy-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg@icann.org] On Behalf Of Terri Agnew Sent: 28 May 2015 21:52 To: ntfy-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg(a)icann.org Cc: gnso-secs(a)icann.org Subject: [ntfy-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Meeting Invitation: Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group Tuesday, 02 June 2015 at 13:00 UTC Dear All, The next Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group teleconference is scheduled for Tuesday, 02 June 2015 at 1300 UTC 06:00 PDT, 09:00 EDT, 14:00 London, 15:00 CET For other places see: http://tinyurl.com/nay9685 A calendar invitation will be sent shortly after this email. If you do not receive it, please download the ical invitation attached to this email. Adobe Connect<http://icann.adobeconnect.com/gnsocontactinfopdpwg/> room<http://icann.adobeconnect.com/gnsocontactinfopdpwg/> Mailing list archives<http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg/%20> Wiki page<https://community.icann.org/x/FTR-Ag%20> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page<http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> The dial-in details are below - please let me know if you require a dial-out. Please confirm your dial-out requests GNSO Secretariats gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> _____________________________________________________________________ Participant passcode: CONTACT Dial in numbers: Country Toll Numbers Freephone/ Toll Free Number ARGENTINA 0800-777-0519 AUSTRALIA ADELAIDE: 61-8-8121-4842 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA BRISBANE: 61-7-3102-0944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA CANBERRA: 61-2-6100-1944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA MELBOURNE: 61-3-9010-7713 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA PERTH: 61-8-9467-5223 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA SYDNEY: 61-2-8205-8129 1-800-657-260 AUSTRIA 43-1-92-81-113 0800-005-259 BELGIUM 32-2-400-9861 0800-3-8795 BRAZIL 55-11-3958-0779 0800-7610651 CHILE 1230-020-2863 CHINA CHINA A: 86-400-810-4789 10800-712-1670 CHINA CHINA B: 86-400-810-4789 10800-120-1670 COLOMBIA 01800-9-156474 CROATIA 080-08-06-309 CZECH REPUBLIC 420-2-25-98-56-64 800-700-177 DENMARK 45-7014-0284 8088-8324 ESTONIA 800-011-1093 FINLAND 358-9-5424-7162 0-800-9-14610 FRANCE LYON: 33-4-26-69-12-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE MARSEILLE: 33-4-86-06-00-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE PARIS: 33-1-70-70-60-72 080-511-1496 GERMANY 49-69-2222-20362 0800-664-4247 GREECE 30-80-1-100-0687 00800-12-7312 HONG KONG 852-3001-3863 800-962-856 HUNGARY 36-1-700-8856 06-800-12755 INDIA BANGALORE: 91-80-61275204 INDIA MUMBAI: 91-22-61501629 INDIA INDIA A: 000-800-852-1268 INDIA INDIA B: 000-800-001-6305 INDIA INDIA C: 1800-300-00491 INDONESIA 001-803-011-3982 IRELAND 353-1-246-7646 1800-992-368 ISRAEL 1-80-9216162 ITALY MILAN: 39-02-3600-6007 800-986-383 ITALY ROME: 39-06-8751-6018 800-986-383 ITALY TORINO: 39-011-510-0118 800-986-383 JAPAN OSAKA: 81-6-7878-2631 0066-33-132439 JAPAN TOKYO: 81-3-6868-2631 0066-33-132439 LATVIA 8000-3185 LUXEMBOURG 352-27-000-1364 8002-9246 MALAYSIA 1-800-81-3065 MEXICO GUADALAJARA (JAL): 52-33-3208-7310 001-866-376-9696 MEXICO MEXICO CITY: 52-55-5062-9110 001-866-376-9696 MEXICO MONTERREY: 52-81-2482-0610 001-866-376-9696 NETHERLANDS 31-20-718-8588 0800-023-4378 NEW ZEALAND 64-9-970-4771 0800-447-722 NORWAY 47-21-590-062 800-15157 PANAMA 011-001-800-5072065 PERU 0800-53713 PHILIPPINES 63-2-858-3716 1800-111-42453 POLAND 00-800-1212572 PORTUGAL 8008-14052 ROMANIA 40-31-630-01-79 RUSSIA 8-10-8002-0144011 SAUDI ARABIA 800-8-110087 SINGAPORE 65-6883-9230 800-120-4663 SLOVAK REPUBLIC 421-2-322-422-25 0800-002066 SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-80414 SOUTH KOREA 82-2-6744-1083 00798-14800-7352 SPAIN 34-91-414-25-33 800-300-053 SWEDEN 46-8-566-19-348 0200-884-622 SWITZERLAND 41-44-580-6398 0800-120-032 TAIWAN 886-2-2795-7379 00801-137-797 THAILAND 001-800-1206-66056 TURKEY 00-800-151-0516 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES 8000-35702370 UNITED KINGDOM BIRMINGHAM: 44-121-210-9025 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM GLASGOW: 44-141-202-3225 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LEEDS: 44-113-301-2125 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LONDON: 44-20-7108-6370 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM MANCHESTER: 44-161-601-1425 0808-238-6029 URUGUAY 000-413-598-3421 USA 1-517-345-9004 866-692-5726 VENEZUELA 0800-1-00-3702 Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew

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MP3 Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP WG meeting 28 May 2015
by Terri Agnew May 28, 2015

May 28, 2015

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group call held on Thursday 28 May 2015 at 13:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-28may15-en.mp3<http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=NrFWbrBstcrPWP369qgbqlXiSKeL20xnUXz…> On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar Attendees: Chris Dillon - NCSG Sara Bockey - RrSG Petter Rindforth - IPC Ubolthip Sethakaset - Individual Amr Elsadr - NCUC Peter Green (Zhang Zuan) - NCUC Roger Carney - RrSG Apologies: Peter Dernbach - IPC Justine Chew - Individual Jim Galvin - RySG Julie Hedlund - Staff ICANN Staff Lars Hoffmann Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Wiki page: http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew Adobe Chat Transcript for Thursday 28 May 2015: Terri Agnew:Welcome to the Translation and Transliteration PDP Working Group on Thursday, 28th May 2015 Amr Elsadr:Hi all. Chris Dillon:Hello, all. Amr Elsadr:Why on Tuesdays? Petter Rindforth:I cannot participate on June 9 Terri Agnew:Welcome Peter g Terri Agnew:**Peter Green Terri Agnew:Welcome Roger Carney Roger Carney:Sorry I am late, Good Morning Amr Elsadr:I'm sorry, are we talking about meetings additional to the Thursday meetings? Peter Green (CONAC):Good Evening Amr Elsadr:Ah. Thanks. I wasn't aware of that. Peter Green (CONAC):Thanks Terri Petter Rindforth:Is it possible to have on June 8, instead of 9?? Amr Elsadr:I'm fine with Tuesdays, but suggest we circulate the question on-list, to make sure that folks who are not on the call provide input. Sara Bockey:either of those days works for me Peter Green (CONAC):8 or 9 June both fine for me Amr Elsadr:I'm fine with that, but could the on-screen doc please be desynched? Amr Elsadr:Thnx. Petter Rindforth:Just so that i understood you correctly: We will at the end of our recommendation list the topics that we see does not fit into our WG and recommend - with no further comments - that these are dealt with by another wg? If so: OK! Amr Elsadr:@Petter: I would support that. If there are a number of those issues identified, I would add a unique recommendations for each one of them, as opposed to a single list. Petter Rindforth:That's what I had in mind. As you say - in case we will end up with a list of such topics... Amr Elsadr::) Lars Hoffmann 2:implementation review teams are now 'standard' so the community will be clsoely involved. Amr Elsadr:IRTs aren't actually standard, yet. :) Amr Elsadr:But we're working on changing that. :) Roger Carney:@Lars, you are speaking of the weirds/RDAP work? Amr Elsadr:@Lars: Yes, I understand all this. My question is, are our recommendations meant to be implemented immediately, or as part of the implementation of the broader WHOIS reforms? Amr Elsadr:Ah. OK. Thanks Lars. That would actually be pretty fine by me. :) Amr Elsadr:@Chris: I was under the same impression. :) Amr Elsadr:What Lars is saying actually makes a lot of sense to me. If our recommendations are now technically feasible, then there's no reason why implementation should be delayed. Lars Hoffmann 2:quite right. Amr Elsadr:This would be great news for registrants in the Arab world. :) Chris Dillon:https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/53777190/Draft_Fina… Petter Rindforth:I'll send a reminder! Amr Elsadr:@Chris: Agreed. This is not accurate, and shouldn't be in the report. Amr Elsadr:That's a good catch. Amr Elsadr:Validation of both original and trasnformed contact info is an actual arguement, which is innacurate. So we would need to take it out, not just edit it. :) Amr Elsadr:We should probably be scheduling this on-list. Lars Hoffmann:TO re-cap. Next week's meetings: Tuesday 2 June 13.00 UTC and Thursday 4 June 13:00 UTC Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye. Roger Carney:Thanks!! Peter Green (CONAC):bye all Petter Rindforth:See you Chris Dillon:Goodbye

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Agenda for tomorrow's meeting
by Dillon, Chris May 28, 2015

May 28, 2015

Dear colleagues, Tomorrow's agenda is in the wiki: Draft agenda 1. Welcome 2. Roll call 3. Statements of interest 4. Additional meetings 5. Public comment review tool v10<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/53777190/Public%20comment%…> 6. Draft final report v3 (especially recommendations)<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/53777190/Draft_Final_V3.do…> 7. AOB Please also find attached new versions of review tool and draft final report, reflecting changes implemented as a result of last week's meeting. Note that these versions do not include full Track Changes histories. For that, you need to refer to the previous versions - 9 and 2.1, respectively as attached to last week's agenda (https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/21+May+2015 N.B. I have fixed the linking problem we had last week). As mentioned last week, the intention is to spend most of the next two meetings working on the recommendations, have the consensus call in our last meeting (11 June) and schedule a couple of extra meetings on Tuesdays in case we need more time than anticipated. Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon<http://www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon> Dear All, The next Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group teleconference is scheduled for Thursday 28 May 2015 at 1300 UTC 06:00 PDT, 09:00 EDT, 14:00 London, 15:00 CET For other places see:http://tinyurl.com/kwjg8xf A calendar invitation will be sent shortly after this email. If you do not receive it, please download the ical invitation attached to this email. Adobe Connect<http://icann.adobeconnect.com/gnsocontactinfopdpwg/> room<http://icann.adobeconnect.com/gnsocontactinfopdpwg/> Mailing list archives<http://forum.icann.org/lists/gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg/%20> Wiki page<https://community.icann.org/x/FTR-Ag%20> The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page<http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> The dial-in details are below - please let me know if you require a dial-out. Please confirm your dial-out requests GNSO Secretariats gnso-secs(a)icann.org<mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org> _____________________________________________________________________ Participant passcode: CONTACT Dial in numbers: Country Toll Numbers Freephone/ Toll Free Number ARGENTINA 0800-777-0519 AUSTRALIA ADELAIDE: 61-8-8121-4842 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA BRISBANE: 61-7-3102-0944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA CANBERRA: 61-2-6100-1944 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA MELBOURNE: 61-3-9010-7713 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA PERTH: 61-8-9467-5223 1-800-657-260 AUSTRALIA SYDNEY: 61-2-8205-8129 1-800-657-260 AUSTRIA 43-1-92-81-113 0800-005-259 BELGIUM 32-2-400-9861 0800-3-8795 BRAZIL 55-11-3958-0779 0800-7610651 CHILE 1230-020-2863 CHINA CHINA A: 86-400-810-4789 10800-712-1670 CHINA CHINA B: 86-400-810-4789 10800-120-1670 COLOMBIA 01800-9-156474 CROATIA 080-08-06-309 CZECH REPUBLIC 420-2-25-98-56-64 800-700-177 DENMARK 45-7014-0284 8088-8324 ESTONIA 800-011-1093 FINLAND 358-9-5424-7162 0-800-9-14610 FRANCE LYON: 33-4-26-69-12-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE MARSEILLE: 33-4-86-06-00-85 080-511-1496 FRANCE PARIS: 33-1-70-70-60-72 080-511-1496 GERMANY 49-69-2222-20362 0800-664-4247 GREECE 30-80-1-100-0687 00800-12-7312 HONG KONG 852-3001-3863 800-962-856 HUNGARY 36-1-700-8856 06-800-12755 INDIA BANGALORE: 91-80-61275204 INDIA MUMBAI: 91-22-61501629 INDIA INDIA A: 000-800-852-1268 INDIA INDIA B: 000-800-001-6305 INDIA INDIA C: 1800-300-00491 INDONESIA 001-803-011-3982 IRELAND 353-1-246-7646 1800-992-368 ISRAEL 1-80-9216162 ITALY MILAN: 39-02-3600-6007 800-986-383 ITALY ROME: 39-06-8751-6018 800-986-383 ITALY TORINO: 39-011-510-0118 800-986-383 JAPAN OSAKA: 81-6-7878-2631 0066-33-132439 JAPAN TOKYO: 81-3-6868-2631 0066-33-132439 LATVIA 8000-3185 LUXEMBOURG 352-27-000-1364 8002-9246 MALAYSIA 1-800-81-3065 MEXICO GUADALAJARA (JAL): 52-33-3208-7310 001-866-376-9696 MEXICO MEXICO CITY: 52-55-5062-9110 001-866-376-9696 MEXICO MONTERREY: 52-81-2482-0610 001-866-376-9696 NETHERLANDS 31-20-718-8588 0800-023-4378 NEW ZEALAND 64-9-970-4771 0800-447-722 NORWAY 47-21-590-062 800-15157 PANAMA 011-001-800-5072065 PERU 0800-53713 PHILIPPINES 63-2-858-3716 1800-111-42453 POLAND 00-800-1212572 PORTUGAL 8008-14052 ROMANIA 40-31-630-01-79 RUSSIA 8-10-8002-0144011 SAUDI ARABIA 800-8-110087 SINGAPORE 65-6883-9230 800-120-4663 SLOVAK REPUBLIC 421-2-322-422-25 0800-002066 SOUTH AFRICA 080-09-80414 SOUTH KOREA 82-2-6744-1083 00798-14800-7352 SPAIN 34-91-414-25-33 800-300-053 SWEDEN 46-8-566-19-348 0200-884-622 SWITZERLAND 41-44-580-6398 0800-120-032 TAIWAN 886-2-2795-7379 00801-137-797 THAILAND 001-800-1206-66056 TURKEY 00-800-151-0516 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES 8000-35702370 UNITED KINGDOM BIRMINGHAM: 44-121-210-9025 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM GLASGOW: 44-141-202-3225 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LEEDS: 44-113-301-2125 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM LONDON: 44-20-7108-6370 0808-238-6029 UNITED KINGDOM MANCHESTER: 44-161-601-1425 0808-238-6029 URUGUAY 000-413-598-3421 USA 1-517-345-9004 866-692-5726 VENEZUELA 0800-1-00-3702 Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew

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New versions of review tool and draft final report
by Dillon, Chris May 22, 2015

May 22, 2015

Dear colleagues, Please find attached new versions of review tool and draft final report, reflecting changes implemented as a result of yesterday's meeting. Note that these versions do not include full Track Changes histories. For that, you need to refer to the previous versions - 9 and 2.1, respectively. As mentioned yesterday, the intention is to spend most of the next two meetings working on the recommendations, have the consensus call in our last meeting (11 June) and schedule a couple of extra meetings on Tuesdays in case we need more time than anticipated. Enjoy the weekend! Regards, Chris. -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon<http://www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon>

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MP3 Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP WG meeting 21 May 2015
by Terri Agnew May 21, 2015

May 21, 2015

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording for the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group call held on Thursday 21 May 2015 at 13:00 UTC at: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-transliteration-contact-21may15-en.mp3<http://mailer.samanage.com/wf/click?upn=NrFWbrBstcrPWP369qgbqlXiSKeL20xnUXz…> On page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#may The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar Attendees: Chris Dillon - NCSG Jim Galvin - RySG Sara Bockey - RrSG Justine Chew - Individual Petter Rindforth - IPC Peter Green (Zhang Zuan) - NCUC Ubolthip Sethakaset - Individual Rudi Vansnick - NPOC Peter Dernbach - IPC Wen Zhai - RySG Apologies: Amr Elsadr - NCUC ICANN Staff Julie Hedlund Lars Hoffmann Ozan Sahin Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Wiki page: http://tinyurl.com/mpwxstx Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew Adobe Chat Transcript for Thursday 21 May 2015: Ozan Sahin:Welcome to the Translation and Transliteration PDP Working Group on Thursday, 21st May 2015 Petter Rindforth:Hi, could not open the link: https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/21+May+2015. Any alternatives? Terri Agnew:try this one: https://community.icann.org/x/zY80Aw Chris Dillon:Or this: https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/21+May+2015 Petter Rindforth:Perfect, it works! Chris Dillon:Phew Terri Agnew:excellent Rudi Vansnick:i will keep track ;-) Terri Agnew:Welcome Peter Dernbach Peter Dernbach:Hello all. Terri Agnew:Welcome Justine Chew Petter Rindforth:sorry, i missed where you aere Rudi Vansnick:https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/53776333/Public%2… Rudi Vansnick:Link to Report itself : https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/53773855/Draft_Final_V2.do… Wen Zhai:sorry i'm late. Terri Agnew:Welcome Wen Zhai Wen Zhai:Thanks Terri~ Justine Chew:Yes, makes sense for last sentence on pg 17 to be omitted. Justine Chew:@Chris, by the way, just for info, both links to the agenda posted on the ICANN wiki and your email point to the same document (i.e. the review tool). The Final Report v2.1 was not uploaded. Sara Bockey:thank you all Jim Galvin:thanks bye all Peter Dernbach:thanks all. Justine Chew:cheers Rudi Vansnick:thanks Chris Peter Green (CONAC):bye all Chris Dillon:Goodbye all Wen Zhai:bye all~

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Reverse Query
by Dillon, Chris May 21, 2015

May 21, 2015

Dear Mr Metalitz, Thank you for your public comment, dated Jan. 27, 2015, to the Translation & Transliteration of Contact Information PDP WG. We would like to make a more detailed reference to part of it in our final report (in fact all of it is summarized in one of the report's appendices). Anyway, we would be most grateful if you could provide a little more information on p.3 "Facilitate identification of and response to fraudulent use of legitimate data (e.g. address) for domain names belonging to another registrant by using Reverse Query on identity-validated data". We would belatedly like to thank you very much for your document. Regards, Chris Dillon. Co-Chair of Translation & Transliteration of Contact Information PDP WG -- Research Associate in Linguistic Computing, Centre for Digital Humanities, UCL, Gower St, London WC1E 6BT Tel +44 20 7679 1599 (int 31599) www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon<http://www.ucl.ac.uk/dis/people/chrisdillon>

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Re: [ntfy-gnso-contactinfo-pdp-wg] Reminder: Meeting Invitation: Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group Thursday 21 May 2015 at 13:00 UTC
by Amr Elsadr May 21, 2015

May 21, 2015

Hi, I have a previous engagement that seems to be running late, so it looks like I won’t be able to make today’s call. Apologies about the late notice. Thanks. Amr On May 20, 2015, at 7:54 AM, Nathalie Peregrine <nathalie.peregrine(a)icann.org> wrote: > Dear All, > > The next Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information PDP Working Group teleconference is scheduled for Thursday 21 May 2015 at 1300 UTC > 06:00 PDT, 09:00 EDT, 14:00 London, 15:00 CET > For other places see:http://tinyurl.com/p2ab96f > A calendar invitation will be sent shortly after this email. If you do not receive it, please download the ical invitation attached to this email. > Adobe Connect room > Mailing list archives > Wiki page > The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page > The dial-in details are below - please let me know if you require a dial-out. > Please confirm your dial-out requests > GNSO Secretariats gnso-secs(a)icann.org > > _____________________________________________________________________ > Participant passcode: CONTACT > Dial in numbers: > Country > > Toll Numbers > Freephone/ > Toll Free Number > ARGENTINA > > > > > > 0800-777-0519 > > AUSTRALIA > > ADELAIDE: > > 61-8-8121-4842 > > 1-800-657-260 > > AUSTRALIA > > BRISBANE: > > 61-7-3102-0944 > > 1-800-657-260 > > AUSTRALIA > > CANBERRA: > > 61-2-6100-1944 > > 1-800-657-260 > > AUSTRALIA > > MELBOURNE: > > 61-3-9010-7713 > > 1-800-657-260 > > AUSTRALIA > > PERTH: > > 61-8-9467-5223 > > 1-800-657-260 > > AUSTRALIA > > SYDNEY: > > 61-2-8205-8129 > > 1-800-657-260 > > AUSTRIA > > > > 43-1-92-81-113 > > 0800-005-259 > > BELGIUM > > > > 32-2-400-9861 > > 0800-3-8795 > > BRAZIL > > > > 55-11-3958-0779 > > 0800-7610651 > > CHILE > > > > > > 1230-020-2863 > > CHINA > > CHINA A: > > 86-400-810-4789 > > 10800-712-1670 > > CHINA > > CHINA B: > > 86-400-810-4789 > > 10800-120-1670 > > COLOMBIA > > > > > > 01800-9-156474 > > CROATIA > > > > > > 080-08-06-309 > > CZECH REPUBLIC > > > > 420-2-25-98-56-64 > > 800-700-177 > > DENMARK > > > > 45-7014-0284 > > 8088-8324 > > ESTONIA > > > > > > 800-011-1093 > > FINLAND > > > > 358-9-5424-7162 > > 0-800-9-14610 > > FRANCE > > LYON: > > 33-4-26-69-12-85 > > 080-511-1496 > > FRANCE > > MARSEILLE: > > 33-4-86-06-00-85 > > 080-511-1496 > > FRANCE > > PARIS: > > 33-1-70-70-60-72 > > 080-511-1496 > > GERMANY > > > > 49-69-2222-20362 > > 0800-664-4247 > > GREECE > > > > 30-80-1-100-0687 > > 00800-12-7312 > > HONG KONG > > > > 852-3001-3863 > > 800-962-856 > > HUNGARY > > > > 36-1-700-8856 > > 06-800-12755 > > INDIA > > BANGALORE: > > 91-80-61275204 > > INDIA > > MUMBAI: > > 91-22-61501629 > > INDIA > > INDIA A: > > > > 000-800-852-1268 > > INDIA > > INDIA B: > > > > 000-800-001-6305 > > INDIA > > INDIA C: > > > > 1800-300-00491 > > INDONESIA > > > > > > 001-803-011-3982 > > IRELAND > > > > 353-1-246-7646 > > 1800-992-368 > > ISRAEL > > > > > > 1-80-9216162 > > ITALY > > MILAN: > > 39-02-3600-6007 > > 800-986-383 > > ITALY > > ROME: > > 39-06-8751-6018 > > 800-986-383 > > ITALY > > TORINO: > > 39-011-510-0118 > > 800-986-383 > > JAPAN > > OSAKA: > > 81-6-7878-2631 > > 0066-33-132439 > > JAPAN > > TOKYO: > > 81-3-6868-2631 > > 0066-33-132439 > > LATVIA > > > > > > 8000-3185 > > LUXEMBOURG > > > > 352-27-000-1364 > > 8002-9246 > > MALAYSIA > > > > > > 1-800-81-3065 > > MEXICO > > GUADALAJARA (JAL): > > 52-33-3208-7310 > > 001-866-376-9696 > > MEXICO > > MEXICO CITY: > > 52-55-5062-9110 > > 001-866-376-9696 > > MEXICO > > MONTERREY: > > 52-81-2482-0610 > > 001-866-376-9696 > > NETHERLANDS > > > > 31-20-718-8588 > > 0800-023-4378 > > NEW ZEALAND > > > > 64-9-970-4771 > > 0800-447-722 > > NORWAY > > > > 47-21-590-062 > > 800-15157 > > PANAMA > > > > > > 011-001-800-5072065 > > PERU > > > > > > 0800-53713 > > PHILIPPINES > > > > 63-2-858-3716 > > 1800-111-42453 > > POLAND > > > > > > 00-800-1212572 > > PORTUGAL > > > > > > 8008-14052 > > ROMANIA > > > > 40-31-630-01-79 > > RUSSIA > > > > > > 8-10-8002-0144011 > > SAUDI ARABIA > > > > > > 800-8-110087 > > SINGAPORE > > > > 65-6883-9230 > > 800-120-4663 > > SLOVAK REPUBLIC > > > > 421-2-322-422-25 > > 0800-002066 > > SOUTH AFRICA > > > > > > 080-09-80414 > > SOUTH KOREA > > > > 82-2-6744-1083 > > 00798-14800-7352 > > SPAIN > > > > 34-91-414-25-33 > > 800-300-053 > > SWEDEN > > > > 46-8-566-19-348 > > 0200-884-622 > > SWITZERLAND > > > > 41-44-580-6398 > > 0800-120-032 > > TAIWAN > > > > 886-2-2795-7379 > > 00801-137-797 > > THAILAND > > > > > > 001-800-1206-66056 > > TURKEY > > > > > > 00-800-151-0516 > > UNITED ARAB EMIRATES > > > > > > 8000-35702370 > > UNITED KINGDOM > > BIRMINGHAM: > > 44-121-210-9025 > > 0808-238-6029 > > UNITED KINGDOM > > GLASGOW: > > 44-141-202-3225 > > 0808-238-6029 > > UNITED KINGDOM > > LEEDS: > > 44-113-301-2125 > > 0808-238-6029 > > UNITED KINGDOM > > LONDON: > > 44-20-7108-6370 > > 0808-238-6029 > > UNITED KINGDOM > > MANCHESTER: > > 44-161-601-1425 > > 0808-238-6029 > > URUGUAY > > > > > > 000-413-598-3421 > > USA > > > > 1-517-345-9004 > > 866-692-5726 > > VENEZUELA > > > > > > 0800-1-00-3702 > > > Thank you. > Kind regards, > Terri Agnew > > >

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