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URGENT: Draft Motion for Approval of Revised GNSO Operating Procedures
by Julie Hedlund March 12, 2014

March 12, 2014

Dear SCI members, As you may recall, the proposed revisions to the GNSO Operating Procedures to address resubmission of motions and working group self assessment were put out for public comment on 10 February. See http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/gnso-op-procedures-10feb14-en.ht m. As no comments were received the forum was closed on 03 March at the end of the 21-day comment period because there was no need to move to the reply comment period. The next step is for the SCI to submit a motion for consideration by the GNSO Council for approval of the revisions. The motion would be made by Avri Doria, as she is the SCI Liaison to the Council. Note that the motion deadline for the GNSO Council meeting in Singapore on 26 March is Saturday, 15 March. Please find the attached draft motion for your consideration along with the redline of the GNSO Operating Procedures. Please let us know if you have any changes. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

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FOR REVIEW: Slides for Update to GNSO Council in Singapore
by Julie Hedlund March 11, 2014

March 11, 2014

Dear Ron, Cintra, and SCI members, Please find attached draft slides for the SCI update to the GNSO Council in Singapore, which currently is scheduled on Saturday, 22 March from 0930-0945 local time in Sophia. Please let us know whether you have any changes to the slides by COB Monday, 17 March. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director

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Action items from SCI Meeting 25 February
by Julie Hedlund Feb. 27, 2014

Feb. 27, 2014

Dear All, Please find below the action items from the call on 25 February. These also are posted to the wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosci/25+February+2014. The next meeting is scheduled as a face-to-face meeting (with remote access) in Singapore on Saturday, 22 March at 7:30 to 8:45 am local time. A separate notice will be sent with the times and teleconference information. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director SCI Meeting 25 February 2014 -- Actions 1. Review of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines Consensus Levels (sub team: Amr, Cintra, Greg, Thomas) -- Continue to edit the document. 2. Waivers/Exceptions to GNSO Operating Procedures (sub team: Greg, Marie-Laure) -- Marika and Greg: Provide text of a new waiver rule to apply to motions. 3. Voting by Email: (sub team: Anne, Avri, Thomas) -- Continue work on this item in the sub team. 4. Next Meeting: Singapore, 7:30 to 8:45 am, 22 March; Room location is Sofia (tentative).

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New Alt. Rep. from the NCUC
by Amr Elsadr Feb. 26, 2014

Feb. 26, 2014

Hi again, It also occurs to me that I never followed up on-list after telling you all about a month ago that David Cake has been appointed to serve as the alternate representative of the NCUC on the SCI. I’ve cced him on this email. Could we have him added to the SCI mailing list, and make the necessary change on the SCI Wiki page? Thanks. Amr

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MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 25 February 2014
by Terri Agnew Feb. 25, 2014

Feb. 25, 2014

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on Tuesday, 25 February 2014 at 20:00 UTC. <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-20140225-en.mp3> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-20140225-en.mp3 On page: <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#oct> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#feb (transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page) Attendees: Ronald Andruff - Commercial and Business Users Constituency - Primary - Chair Angie Graves - Commercial and Business Users Constituency - Alternate Greg Shatan - IPC - Alternate Cintra Sooknanan: NPOC Primary - SCI Vice Chair Amr Elsadr - NCUC Alternate Jennifer Standiford - Registrar Stakeholder Group - Primary Thomas Rickert - Nominating Committee Appointee - Alternate Apologies: Marie-Laure Lemineur - NPOC Alternative ICANN Staff: Marika Konings Julie Hedlund Nathalie Peregrine Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Let me know if you have any questions. Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew GNSO Secretariat <mailto:gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org> gnso.secretariat(a)gnso.icann.org <http://gnso.icann.org> http://gnso.icann.org Adobe Chat Transcript 25 February 2014 Terri Agnew: Welcome to the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting on Tuesday 25th February 2014 at 20:00 UTC Ron A:Good day everyone. Awaiting the operator to let me on the call. Julie Hedlund:Hello everyone. I also am waiting for the operator. Marika Konings:Same here - looks like jazz is the new trend ;-) Julie Hedlund:Yes, very jazzy! Ron A:I'm wondering what is going on... been holding for 5 mins now... Julie Hedlund:I am in now. Maybe they are catching up. Marika Konings:Still on hold Thomas Rickert:So am I... Thomas Rickert:Hi all! Cintra Sooknanan:Hi everyone Cintra Sooknanan:I'm going to see if connecting through the adobe room works Cintra Sooknanan:if I have difficulty I'll request a dial out Ron A:Looks like Adigo is having some staffing problems to let everyone on to the call... Will start at 15:05 Ron A:eEST Amr Elsadr:Dialling in now. Jennifer Standiford:hello Amr Elsadr:I just dialled in but can't hear anything. Has the meeting started? Ron A:Not yet Amr. Cintra Sooknanan:no all quiet now Amr Elsadr:Ah. Thnx. :) Ron A:Awaiting the rest of the committee as we have all been in the queue to get into the call. Amr Elsadr:We don't have NCSG. Julie Hedlund:We also are missing Wolf-Ulrich from the ISPs Ron A:Thank you, Julie. Julie Hedlund:And missing Registry SG Ron A:Yes, already noted. Thanks. Terri Agnew:Greg Shatan has joined Amr Elsadr:Thanks Thomas and Marika. That's very helpful. This will need to be changed here then. Amr Elsadr:I was going to raise my hand, but Thomas and Greg can probably address this better than I can. Terri Agnew:Apology from Marie-Laure Lemineur Amr Elsadr:Since they were on the IGO/INGO WG. Greg Shatan:The issue was that the recommendations were not in the negative.... Marika Konings:@Greg - but if it is made clear to a WG in advance that it is an option to make a recommendation against x, y or z, it may not be an issue anymore? Greg Shatan:The IGO/INGO WG "consensus against" was not full consensus against.... Marika Konings:right, but that doesn't matter, does it? the designation would determine the level of support against x, y or z? Greg Shatan:@Marika -- that was not possible in the instance, we would have had double the number of recommendation, which would have put us near 100 recommendations, with half there only to provide a solution to this problem. Marika Konings:Or you could also phrase it as 'the WG reached consensus on not providing special protections on x, y or z? Marika Konings:Right, but is that one case sufficient to change the designations where no other PDP WGs have encountered the same issue? Which I think is also a question that was raised during the last meeting. Did the sub-team go into that? Marika Konings:and to be clear, not expressing a specific view here ;-) Amr Elsadr:@Greg: That's what I was also thinking and hoped we could avoid. RE: 3 added designations for decision-making levels. Amr Elsadr:A group might also opt to add recommendatins as a result of community feedback that "the group" doesn't necessarily agree to. Amr Elsadr:Thanks Greg. Amr Elsadr:I'm not actually sure how helpful a 24 hr notice would be, so am not sure wether it is necessary or not. Amr Elsadr:I would add a section here to address the resubmission issue, just for clarity. Amr Elsadr:@Greg: Agreed, but perhaps it just needs to be clarified. Ron A:Julie: Do we have that document that Thomas is speaking about? Greg Shatan:In the Actions #2, I think that should be Marika and Greg... Amr Elsadr:Oh yeah!! How'd I end up there?? :) Julie Hedlund:Yes -- you are right :-) Amr Elsadr:I'd be happy to help though. :) Julie Hedlund:Changed it! Greg Shatan:@Amr; Just a good volunteer.... :-) Julie Hedlund:@Amr: I guess it's just because you are so helpful ;-) Greg Shatan:Merika = Marika? Julie Hedlund:Yes -- I know a Merika too. Julie Hedlund::-) Marika Konings:Marika = Marika, I'm not sure who Merika is ;-) Cintra Sooknanan::) Julie Hedlund:Merika Kaeo -- she's on the SSAC but I don't think she wants to take on more work! Julie Hedlund:Merike actually (not Merika) Marika Konings:@Amr - we can try to get you some double espressos ;-) Amr Elsadr:Thanks Ron!! :D Julie Hedlund:Names are too similar Julie Hedlund:We'll be sure there's lots of coffee! Amr Elsadr:Thank you too Marika!! ;-) Greg Shatan:@Amr -- Just don' look at your watch.... Marika Konings:And I've even done wake up calls before to make sure WG chairs would show up on time ;-) Julie Hedlund:Thank you everyone! Amr Elsadr:I hope it doesn't come to that Marika!! You work a lot harder than anyone on Council!! ;-) Thomas Rickert:Thanks and bye! Marika Konings::-) Cintra Sooknanan:bye

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Revision to GNSO Decision-Making Designations
by Amr Elsadr Feb. 25, 2014

Feb. 25, 2014

Hi All, Here is an early draft reflecting possible revisions to the decision-making levels in the GNSO. Although the sub-team (including Greg, Cintra, Thomas and myself) is still not completely settled on this, we thought sharing it at this point for the purpose of discussion with the rest of the committee might be a good idea. Thanks. Amr

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Re: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Reminder re: Action items from today's meeting
by Julie Hedlund Feb. 24, 2014

Feb. 24, 2014

Ron and SCI members, The list of sub-committee teams are on proposed agenda on the wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosci/11+February+2014 and I have also included them below. Best regards, Julie Proposed Agenda: 1. Roll Call/Updates to SOI/Approval of Agenda (3 mins) 2. Review of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines Consensus Levels (sub team: Amr, Cintra, Greg, Thomas) (15 mins) 3. Waivers/Exceptions to GNSO Operating Procedures (sub team: Greg, Marie-Laure) (15 mins) 4. Voting by Email: (sub team: Anne, Avri, Thomas) (15 mins) 5. Preparation for Singapore F2F meeting (7 mins) 6. AOB (5 mins) From: Ron Andruff <randruff(a)rnapartners.com> Date: Monday, February 24, 2014 11:51 AM To: Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund(a)icann.org> Subject: RE: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Reminder re: Action items from today's meeting Thank you for this reminder and summary, Julie. Could you send another note listing the sub-committee teams for the other agenda items so that they are on notice that they need to be prepared for the call? Thanks in advance. Kind regards, RA Ron Andruff RNA Partners www.rnapartners.com <http://www.rnapartners.com> From: owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc(a)icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-improvem-impl-sc@icann.org] On Behalf Of Julie Hedlund Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 09:15 To: gnso-improvem-impl-sc(a)icann.org Subject: [gnso-improvem-impl-sc] Reminder re: Action items from today's meeting Dear All, As a reminder please find below the action items and notes from Marika Konings from the call on 11 February. These also are posted to the wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosci/11+February+2014. The next meeting is scheduled for TOMORROW, Tuesday 25 February at 20.00 UTC. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director SCI Meeting 11 February 2014 Actions: 1. Review of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines Consensus Levels: * Sub-team intends to share initial views in time for the next meeting as more time is needed to review and discuss. * Question: how narrow or broad is the sub-team expected to go? Should it be limited to the specific issue or are clarifications to other parts of this section also open for consideration. * SCI is also expected to consider review of overall WG Guidelines on a periodic timescale - which may involve addressing broader issues / questions in relation to this section. * Other designations will need to be considered in order to provide context to this issue, which may result in proposed edits / clarifications to all designations if a similar negation clause is deemed necessary for the other designations. * Sub-team encouraged to review the specific scenario under which this situation occurred as no other issues have been identified by other PDP WGs in relation to the decision-making designations. 2. Waiver/Exceptions: deferred to next meeting. 3. Voting by Email: deferred to next meeting. 4. Preparations for Singapore F2F meeting - requested for Saturday 22 March from 7.30 - 8.45 local time. Remote participation will be available.

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Reminder re: Action items from today's meeting
by Julie Hedlund Feb. 24, 2014

Feb. 24, 2014

Dear All, As a reminder please find below the action items and notes from Marika Konings from the call on 11 February. These also are posted to the wiki at: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosci/11+February+2014. The next meeting is scheduled for TOMORROW, Tuesday 25 February at 20.00 UTC. Best regards, Julie Julie Hedlund, Policy Director SCI Meeting 11 February 2014 Actions: 1. Review of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines Consensus Levels: * Sub-team intends to share initial views in time for the next meeting as more time is needed to review and discuss. * Question: how narrow or broad is the sub-team expected to go? Should it be limited to the specific issue or are clarifications to other parts of this section also open for consideration. * SCI is also expected to consider review of overall WG Guidelines on a periodic timescale - which may involve addressing broader issues / questions in relation to this section. * Other designations will need to be considered in order to provide context to this issue, which may result in proposed edits / clarifications to all designations if a similar negation clause is deemed necessary for the other designations. * Sub-team encouraged to review the specific scenario under which this situation occurred as no other issues have been identified by other PDP WGs in relation to the decision-making designations. 2. Waiver/Exceptions: deferred to next meeting. 3. Voting by Email: deferred to next meeting. 4. Preparations for Singapore F2F meeting - requested for Saturday 22 March from 7.30 - 8.45 local time. Remote participation will be available.

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MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 11 February 2014
by Glen de Saint Géry Feb. 11, 2014

Feb. 11, 2014

Dear All, Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements Implementation meeting held on Tuesday, 11 February 2014 at 20:00 UTC. http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-sci-20140211-en.mp3 On page: http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#<http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#oct>feb (transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page) Attendees: Ronald Andruff - Commercial and Business Users Constituency - Primary - Chair Angie Graves - Commercial and Business Users Constituency - Alternate Anne Aikman Scalese - Intellectual Property Constituency - Primary Marie-Laure Lemineur - NPOC Alternative Wolf-Ulrich Knoben - ISPCP Greg Shatan - IPC - Alternate Avri Doria - Non Commercial SG - Primary - Vice-Chair Cintra Sooknanan: NPOC Primary - SCI Vice Chair Amr Elsadr - NCUC Alternate Apologies: Thomas Rickert Julie Hedlund Mary Wong ICANN Staff: Marika Konings Glen de Saint Géry ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Let me know if you have any questions. Thank you. Kind regards, Glen Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat gnso.secretariat(a)gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org Adobe Chat Transcript 11 February 2014 Marika Konings:Welcome to the SCI meeting of 11 February 2014 Ron A:Nice to see you Glen and Marika Ron A:just dialing in now... Marie-laure Lemineur:Hello Cintra Sooknanan1:Hello everyone Cintra Sooknanan1:Jamaica has a bob sled team! Marika Konings:Actually just noticed that Germany has pushed us to the 4th place now :-(( Marika Konings:We'll need some more skating medals obviously ;-) Ron A:Still some days to go Marika! ;o) Cintra Sooknanan1:Thanks so much for the dial out Glen Glen de Saint Gery:my pleasure, sorry we had the wrong number Cintra! Cintra Sooknanan1:it was my mistake, but all good Amr Elsadr:Sorry I'm late. Dialling in now. Avri Doria:seems lik we should alwasy worry about making sense. Avri Doria:are we really openning this again? Avri Doria:we only have 1 level of full consensus, and one level of near consensus,. all the others are not consensus at all. Avri Doria:and we call near consensus gnso consensus Avri Doria:i can speak, but my point is tangential Ron A:@ AVri: please do speak Anne Aikman-Scalese:The SCI could consider the following potential actions:* Add a new Consensus Level defining "Consensus Against" to the GNSO WG Guidelines* Without adding a new Consensus Level, clarify that the existing definition/description of "Consensus" includes situations appropriately determined to be "Consensus Against"* In either case, determine if the current "Divergence" level needs to be amended, e.g.:- Does "Divergence" always equate to "No Consensus"?- Does "Divergence" always mean there is a plurality of views?- Does the current definition/description of "Divergence" require clarification or amendment?* Determine that the current Consensus Levels are adequate to cover even the situation experienced by the IGO-INGO PDP WG. Ron A:@ Avri: good clarification of levels Marika Konings:From the SCI Charter: On a periodic timescale for all procedures and guidelines in order to identify possible issues and/or improvements (subject to a clear definition by the SCI on which procedures and guidelines should be reviewed) Marie-laure Lemineur:Cintra could you please speak louder or closer to the mic Marie-laure Lemineur:please? Marika Konings:which was preceded by: 'Its tasks include making recommendations' Amr Elsadr:@Avri + Marika: Yes..., the proposed changes on this excercise should probably address all the levels of consensus/decision-making, not just full consensus. Anne Aikman-Scalese:Is the straw poll a voting member or everyone? Marika Konings:@ Amr - if the SCI decides that changes are necessary... Avri Doria:poll question makes not sense to me. i think it is broader that consensus against, but not as wide as the kettle of fish. Avri Doria:call it just decsions making level and not consensusus against and i will understand Anne Aikman-Scalese:Not my intent -but how caqn you avoid it if you are looking at them relatively? Amr Elsadr:I just changed from and X to a check. Good thing Ron clarified what the X and check would be for. :) Amr Elsadr:*an X Marie-laure Lemineur:but narrow approach as a first step and than open at a later stage ? Marie-laure Lemineur:open discussion Avri Doria:a binary decsion ofn a multi-part decsion is bound to be problematic. 1 just consensus against, 2 negation of any of the decision level, 3 review of the over decsion making procedures in all their glory, 4, review of the wg guidelines Avri Doria:3. review of the other decsions making procedures in all their glory Avri Doria:i favor 2 or 3 Amr Elsadr:@Marika: Thanks. Great recommendation to move forward. Avri Doria:i do not think i am on the sub team Cintra Sooknanan1:all good thanks for the direction Amr Elsadr:Will this be a closed or open meeting? Wolf Knoben:open Amr Elsadr:Thanks Wolf. I ask because it wasn't posted on the schedule of the BA meeting. I wasn't sure. Marika Konings:in two weeks, next meeting would be 25 February Amr Elsadr:Ah! Thanks. :) Anne Aikman-Scalese:THank you everyone! Marie-laure Lemineur:Thank you Ron and everyone Cintra Sooknanan1:thanks have a great day Cintra Sooknanan1:bye

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Action items from today's meeting
by Marika Konings Feb. 11, 2014

Feb. 11, 2014

Dear All, Please find below the action items and notes from the SCI meeting today. The next meeting will be scheduled for Tuesday 25 February at 20.00 UTC. Best regards, Marika SCI Meeting 11 February 2014 Actions: 1. Review of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines Consensus Levels: * Sub-team intends to share initial views in time for the next meeting as more time is needed to review and discuss. * Question: how narrow or broad is the sub-team expected to go? Should it be limited to the specific issue or are clarifications to other parts of this section also open for consideration. * SCI is also expected to consider review of overall WG Guidelines on a periodic timescale - which may involve addressing broader issues / questions in relation to this section. * Other designations will need to be considered in order to provide context to this issue, which may result in proposed edits / clarifications to all designations if a similar negation clause is deemed necessary for the other designations. * Sub-team encouraged to review the specific scenario under which this situation occurred as no other issues have been identified by other PDP WGs in relation to the decision-making designations. 2. Waiver/Exceptions: deferred to next meeting. 3. Voting by Email: deferred to next meeting. 4. Preparations for Singapore F2F meeting - requested for Saturday 22 March from 7.30 - 8.45 local time. Remote participation will be available.

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