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Re: [NA-Discuss] [ALAC-Internal] Fwd: Re: [ALAC] Statement on Stakeholder Group Openness
by Brendler, Beau Sept. 10, 2008

Sept. 10, 2008

Related to this topic: We (the ALAC) needs to act on and ratify the comments on the RAA. Those were supposed to be finalized and to Tim Cole by the end of August. We can't wait now until our monthly ALAC call in October. Maybe this can be a test case where we try to figure out how to move ahead on something. -----Original Message----- From: alac-internal-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-internal-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Alan Greenberg Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:56 AM To: ALAC Internal List Subject: Re: [ALAC-Internal] Fwd: Re: [ALAC] Statement on Stakeholder Group Openness Generally agree, but I put this note on the internal list to spark some thinking and then have the discussion in a venue where all folks have a reasonable chance of participating in it (which to date is not one of our mailings lists). Alan At 10/09/2008 10:28 AM, Evan Leibovitch wrote: >Alan Greenberg wrote: > > I am putting this post in the closed internal list. > > > > I request time in Cairo to have a face-to-face discussion on the > > types of issues that the ALAC can decide without world-wide > > consultation, and those IF ANY that, as a duly selected body, it has > > the authority to do alone, or in consultation with RALO leaders. > >If there is some sense of the kinds of issues that are to arise, it is >possible for us (RALO chairs and secretariats) to at least get a sense >of the overall direction that the ALSs would collectively prefer on >such issues. Armed with such a general "mood" but not direction on >specific motions, I believe it is possible for each RALO's >representatives (their elected ALAC reps plus the chairs and >secretariats) to be able to act on issues and motions raised in meetings. > >It is reasonable that issues of major substance, as well as those not >identified (even generally) in advance be sent back for ALS response. >However, I believe that a significant amount of business can be done if >the RALOs have been previously surveyed in advance and their views are >reflected in the actions of their four reps at the meetings. > >If the purpose of this process is to create a draft "point of reference" >that is then sent back for ALS review, that is even better. But the >timing of some issues may not allow that luxury. > >- Evan > > >_______________________________________________ >ALAC-Internal mailing list >ALAC-Internal(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-internal_atlarge-l >ists.icann.org > >ALAC Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac >At-Large Website: http://atlarge.icann.org _______________________________________________ ALAC-Internal mailing list ALAC-Internal(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-internal_atlarge-lists… ALAC Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac At-Large Website: http://atlarge.icann.org *** Scanned **************************************************************************** ******** SCANNED **************************************************************************** ********

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Re: [NA-Discuss] [ALAC-Internal] Fwd: Re: [ALAC] Statement on Stakeholder Group Openness
by Brendler, Beau Sept. 10, 2008

Sept. 10, 2008

Never mind, I see that this has just been put to a vote. Well done Nick. -----Original Message----- From: Brendler, Beau Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:25 AM To: 'ALAC Internal List'; 'NA Discuss' Subject: RE: [ALAC-Internal] Fwd: Re: [ALAC] Statement on Stakeholder Group Openness Related to this topic: We (the ALAC) needs to act on and ratify the comments on the RAA. Those were supposed to be finalized and to Tim Cole by the end of August. We can't wait now until our monthly ALAC call in October. Maybe this can be a test case where we try to figure out how to move ahead on something. -----Original Message----- From: alac-internal-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-internal-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Alan Greenberg Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:56 AM To: ALAC Internal List Subject: Re: [ALAC-Internal] Fwd: Re: [ALAC] Statement on Stakeholder Group Openness Generally agree, but I put this note on the internal list to spark some thinking and then have the discussion in a venue where all folks have a reasonable chance of participating in it (which to date is not one of our mailings lists). Alan At 10/09/2008 10:28 AM, Evan Leibovitch wrote: >Alan Greenberg wrote: > > I am putting this post in the closed internal list. > > > > I request time in Cairo to have a face-to-face discussion on the > > types of issues that the ALAC can decide without world-wide > > consultation, and those IF ANY that, as a duly selected body, it has > > the authority to do alone, or in consultation with RALO leaders. > >If there is some sense of the kinds of issues that are to arise, it is >possible for us (RALO chairs and secretariats) to at least get a sense >of the overall direction that the ALSs would collectively prefer on >such issues. Armed with such a general "mood" but not direction on >specific motions, I believe it is possible for each RALO's >representatives (their elected ALAC reps plus the chairs and >secretariats) to be able to act on issues and motions raised in meetings. > >It is reasonable that issues of major substance, as well as those not >identified (even generally) in advance be sent back for ALS response. >However, I believe that a significant amount of business can be done if >the RALOs have been previously surveyed in advance and their views are >reflected in the actions of their four reps at the meetings. > >If the purpose of this process is to create a draft "point of reference" >that is then sent back for ALS review, that is even better. But the >timing of some issues may not allow that luxury. > >- Evan > > >_______________________________________________ >ALAC-Internal mailing list >ALAC-Internal(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-internal_atlarge-l >ists.icann.org > >ALAC Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac >At-Large Website: http://atlarge.icann.org _______________________________________________ ALAC-Internal mailing list ALAC-Internal(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-internal_atlarge-lists… ALAC Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac At-Large Website: http://atlarge.icann.org *** Scanned **************************************************************************** ******** SCANNED **************************************************************************** ********

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Nomination for ALAC Position
by Thompson, Darlene Sept. 10, 2008

Sept. 10, 2008

Hi all, As I am rather politically “out of it”, I have no idea whether the existing incumbent for the ALAC seat needs to be nominated or not. So, playing it on the safe side, I would like to nominate Beau Brendler for another two years. Seconder? D ᑕᓕᓐ ᑕᒻᓴᓐ ᓄᓇᓕᖕᓂ ᖃᕆᓴᐅᔭᕐᕕᒋᔭᐅᔪᓐᓇᕐᑐᓄᑦ ᑎᑎᕋᖅᑎ ᑮᓇᐅᔭᓕᕆᓂᕐᒧᑦ ᐊᐅᓚᑦᑎᔨᒃᑯᑦ ᐱᔨᑦᑎᕋᖅᕕᖓᑦ ᐃᓕᓐᓂᐊᕐᓂᓕᕆᔨᒃᑯᑦ ᓄᓇᕗᑦ ᒐᕙᒪᖓᑦ ᑎᑎᖅᑲᓂᐊᕐᕕᖓ 1000, ᐊᓪᓚᕝᕕᖓ 910 ᐃᖃᓗᐃᑦ, ᓄᓇᕗᑦ dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca ᐅᖄᓚᐅᑎ: 867 975-5631 ᓱᑲᑦᑐᒃᑰᕈᑎ: 867 975-5610 Taliin Taamsan Nunalingni Qaritauyani Atuqtauningitnun Titiraqtia Nunavut Kavamangat Titiraqarvia 1000, Nayugaa 910 Iqaluit, Nunavut dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca Hivayautik : 867 975-5631 Kayumiktuk : 867 975-5610 Darlene Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Corporate Services Division Department of Education Government of Nunavut PO Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, Nunavut, X0A 0H0 dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca Ph: 867 975-5631 Fax: 867 975-5610 Darlene Thompson Administratrice du programme d’accès communautaire Division des services ministériels Ministère de l’Éducation Gouvernement du Nunavut Case postale 1000, Succursale 910 Iqaluit Nunavut, X0A 0H0 dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca Tél. : 867 975-5631 Téléc. : 867 975-5610

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Summary Minutes 08 September/Follow up meeting
by At-Large Staff Sept. 9, 2008

Sept. 9, 2008

Dear all, D Thompson provided us with the summary minutes for yesterday¹s NARALO teleconference. You find the audio recording and the minutes on the meeting page: https://st.icann.org/naralo/index.cgi?08_september_2008 Please note that another teleconference will be held on the 22nd of September to follow up on the agenda items that you were unable to discuss yesterday. You may review the agenda items under: https://st.icann.org/naralo/index.cgi?22_september_2008 Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart, Matthias Langenegger, Frederic Teboul ICANN At-Large Staff email: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org

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WashingtonPost: ICANN Accredited Registrar is Convicted Felon
by Danny Younger Sept. 9, 2008

Sept. 9, 2008

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2008/09/estdomains_a_sordid_hi…

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NARALO Conference call Sept 22
by Evan Leibovitch Sept. 8, 2008

Sept. 8, 2008

Hello everyone. Due to the fact that there were many agenda items that were not sufficiently dealt with on today's call, we have tentatively scheduled another NARALO call to take place in two weeks -- Monday September 22 -- at the same time as usual (3pm eastern). Amongst the agenda items to be dealt with: 1) The Redemption Grace Period (see email thread about "restoring the safety net") 2) Phantom registrars (see email thread about "Comprehensive Review of ICANN Accreditation Process") 3) ALAC statement on the RAA 4) Danny's letter to Paul Twomey 5) At-Large travel procedures 6) Registrant amd end-user rights and responsibilities Please take the time to learn about these issues in advance of the call. See you there! - Evan

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Proposals in NARALO Related to the Registrant
by Nick Ashton-Hart Sept. 8, 2008

Sept. 8, 2008

Dear Community members: There has been considerable activity in recent weeks on various community lists (as well as in online news forums) relating to domain registration, accreditation of registrars, proposed initiatives intended to create better safety nets for registrants and related issues. At the same time, the ICANN community as a whole is engaged in a consultative process related to the key agreement (the Registrar Accreditiation Agreement (³RAA²) that governs many aspects of domain registration and the rights and responsibilities of registrants and registrars, as well as ICANN since it is one of the two contracting parties to the agreement. As you all know, many of these these issues are complex. At the same time, several proposals and issues raised, especially in the NARALO of late, seem to me to have elements which are interrelated (especially as regards the fundamental objective they seek to produce). What I would like to propose is that a couple of briefings be arranged to help further the understanding of these and related issues in the community. I would propose two sessions, of an hour to 90 minutes each, as per usual with simultaneous interpretation: 1. The Registrant/Registrar Relationship * What safeguards are available to registrants? * How are they implemented? * What compliance activities could, or already do, help ensure their implementation? * What proposals are being discussed to increase the protection available to registrants? 2. The RAA and the Internet User * Does the RAA impact the non-registrant user of the internet? * If so, how does it impact them, and are there different impacts for different types of users? * What if any changes being discussed would (or could) affect the non-registrant end-user, and how? It seems to me that these two sessions would likely help everyone have a much increased understanding of the issues and lead to a very productive debate. I would suggest that the sessions specifically involve various constituencies in presenting to help everyone understand the perspectives of the key parties. -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director for At-Large Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA DD: +1 (310) 578-8637 Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44 Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68 email: nick.ashton-hart(a)icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart(a)hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart(a)mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart

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Call for Nominations
by Thompson, Darlene Sept. 8, 2008

Sept. 8, 2008

Hi all, As you all know, the ALAC position currently held by Beau is now up for election. As of such, we are now officially opening the Call for Nominations period. This period will start today and end on September 21, 2009. Please send in any nominations (or volunteers!) for this position during this time (the sooner the better). On September 222, 2009 we will have a one week period for the actual election (held on-line through Big Pulse or any other such voting mechanism that staff recommends). Darlene ᑕᓕᓐ ᑕᒻᓴᓐ ᓄᓇᓕᖕᓂ ᖃᕆᓴᐅᔭᕐᕕᒋᔭᐅᔪᓐᓇᕐᑐᓄᑦ ᑎᑎᕋᖅᑎ ᑮᓇᐅᔭᓕᕆᓂᕐᒧᑦ ᐊᐅᓚᑦᑎᔨᒃᑯᑦ ᐱᔨᑦᑎᕋᖅᕕᖓᑦ ᐃᓕᓐᓂᐊᕐᓂᓕᕆᔨᒃᑯᑦ ᓄᓇᕗᑦ ᒐᕙᒪᖓᑦ ᑎᑎᖅᑲᓂᐊᕐᕕᖓ 1000, ᐊᓪᓚᕝᕕᖓ 910 ᐃᖃᓗᐃᑦ, ᓄᓇᕗᑦ dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca ᐅᖄᓚᐅᑎ: 867 975-5631 ᓱᑲᑦᑐᒃᑰᕈᑎ: 867 975-5610 Taliin Taamsan Nunalingni Qaritauyani Atuqtauningitnun Titiraqtia Nunavut Kavamangat Titiraqarvia 1000, Nayugaa 910 Iqaluit, Nunavut dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca Hivayautik : 867 975-5631 Kayumiktuk : 867 975-5610 Darlene Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Corporate Services Division Department of Education Government of Nunavut PO Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, Nunavut, X0A 0H0 dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca Ph: 867 975-5631 Fax: 867 975-5610 Darlene Thompson Administratrice du programme d’accès communautaire Division des services ministériels Ministère de l’Éducation Gouvernement du Nunavut Case postale 1000, Succursale 910 Iqaluit Nunavut, X0A 0H0 dthompson(a)gov.nu.ca Tél. : 867 975-5631 Téléc. : 867 975-5610

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[Reminder] At-Large NARALO Conference Call @ Mon 8 Sep 21:00 – 22:00 ()
by Google Calendar Sept. 8, 2008

Sept. 8, 2008

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BC proposes Issues Report re Registration Abuse Policies
by Danny Younger Sept. 8, 2008

Sept. 8, 2008

>From the GNSO Council list: A signficant discrepancy in registry contracts exists, with respect to language intended to allow registries to take action against abuse. The recent Afilias funnel request highlights the issue, as has a related discussion in the Fast Flux WG. The BC proposes a Council resolution to request Staff to lay out the facts and potential options around this issue, for further community discussion. Thanks, Mike Rodenbaugh Councilor, Business Constituency Whereas: 1. ICANN's mission is to ensure the security and stability of the DNS, and to develop policy reasonably related to that mission. 2. Various forms of DNS abuse, in isolation and/or in the aggregate, cause a less secure and stable DNS. 3. Some of ICANN's gTLD registry agreements and appended registry-registrar agreements contain a provision such as Section 3.6.5 of the .info Registry Agreement, Appendix 8 (http://www.icann.org/en/tlds/agreements/info/appendix-08-08dec06.htm) 3.6.5. [Registrars] acknowledge and agree that Afilias reserves the right to deny, cancel or transfer any registration or transaction, or place any domain name(s) on registry lock, hold or similar status, that it deems necessary, in its discretion; (1) to protect the integrity and stability of the registry; (2) to comply with any applicable laws, government rules or requirements, requests of law enforcement, or any dispute resolution process; (3) to avoid any liability, civil or criminal, on the part of Afilias, as well as its affiliates, subsidiaries, officers, directors, and employees; (4) per the terms of the registration agreement or (5) to correct mistakes made by Afilias or any Registrar in connection with a domain name registration. Afilias also reserves the right to place upon registry lock, hold or similar status a domain name during resolution of a dispute. 4. Afilias, the dotInfo Registry Operator, per its recent RSEP request, has sought to clarify and implement its specific abusive registration policy with respect to this provision. This request has been approved by ICANN, <http://www.icann.org/en/registries/rsep/afilias-to-icann-06aug08.pdf> http://www.icann.org/en/registries/rsep/afilias-to-icann-06aug08.pdf. 5. Some of ICANN's gTLD registry agreements, notably the Verisign contracts for .com and .net, have no such provision. Other gTLD registry agreements do contain such provision, but the registry operators have not developed or have inconsistently developed abusive registration policies. The GNSO Council resolves to request an Issues Report from ICANN Staff with respect to the following: 1. To identify and describe the various provisions in existing and previous gTLD registry and registry-registrar agreements which relate to contracting parties' ability to take action in response to abuse. 2. To identify and describe various provisions in a representative sampling of gTLD registration agreements which relate to contracting parties' and/or registrants rights and obligations with respect to abuse. 3. To identify and describe any previous discussion in ICANN fora which substantively pertains to provisions of this nature in any of these agreements. 4. To identify and describe potential options for further Council consideration, relating to consistency and propriety of provisions of this nature in all of these agreements. [Please note that this request has been seconded by Greg Ruth of the "Internet Service and Connection Providers" Constituency]

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