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REMINDER | SubPro IRT Meeting #100 | 19 December 2024, 19:00-21:00 UTC
by Next Round Policy Implementation Dec. 18, 2024

Dec. 18, 2024

Dear All, Meeting #100 of the SubPro IRT will be held on 19 December 2024 at 19:00-21:00 UTC [local time<https://tinyurl.com/4v2m5dw8>]. The agenda can be consulted here<https://community.icann.org/x/igEiFg>. Before the meeting, please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior<https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2016-06-28-en>. We would like to remind participants that to ensure transparency of participation in ICANN's multistakeholder model, we ask that you sign in to Zoom sessions using your full name. For example, First Name and Last Name or Surname. You may be removed from the session if you do not sign in using your full name. Zoom information: Join the Zoom Webinar directly (recommended): https://icann.zoom.us/j/97063459905?pwd=VUVsd0J0RnNtRXkyNXJFZW9vdTEzZz09 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/97063459905?pwd=VUVsd0J0…> Meeting ID: 970 6345 9905 Passcode: DQ#0L.9x5e Zoom Audio only: One tap mobile +13462487799,,97063459905#,,,,*5806401747# US (Houston) +16699006833,,97063459905#,,,,*5806401747# US (San Jose) Meeting ID: 970 6345 9905 Passcode: 5806401747 Should you be unable to attend the meeting, please let us know in advance. A recording will be made available. Please do not hesitate to contact us should you have any questions. Best regards, Renate

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REMINDER | SubPro IRT Meeting #99a | 18 December 2024, 19:00-20:30 UTC
by Next Round Policy Implementation Dec. 17, 2024

Dec. 17, 2024

Dear All, Meeting #99a of the SubPro IRT will be held on 18 December 2024 at 19:00-20:30 UTC [local time<https://tinyurl.com/m723cmvz>]. The agenda can be consulted here<https://community.icann.org/x/NAEfFw>. Before the meeting, please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior<https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2016-06-28-en>. We would like to remind participants that to ensure transparency of participation in ICANN's multistakeholder model, we ask that you sign in to Zoom sessions using your full name. For example, First Name and Last Name or Surname. You may be removed from the session if you do not sign in using your full name. Zoom information: Join the Zoom Webinar directly (recommended): https://icann.zoom.us/j/97063459905?pwd=VUVsd0J0RnNtRXkyNXJFZW9vdTEzZz09 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/97063459905?pwd=VUVsd0J0…> Meeting ID: 970 6345 9905 Passcode: DQ#0L.9x5e Zoom Audio only: One tap mobile +13462487799,,97063459905#,,,,*5806401747# US (Houston) +16699006833,,97063459905#,,,,*5806401747# US (San Jose) Meeting ID: 970 6345 9905 Passcode: 5806401747 Should you be unable to attend the meeting, please let us know in advance. A recording will be made available. Please do not hesitate to contact us should you have any questions. Best regards, Elisa

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Re: [Ext] RE: Re: Order of Application Processing and the Prioritization Draw
by Lars Hoffmann Dec. 16, 2024

Dec. 16, 2024

Thanks, Mark. I will check internally what the rationale is for the ticket being sold. I believe there are provisions under the applicable California law but I need to check. Best. Lars From: "trachtenbergm(a)gtlaw.com" <trachtenbergm(a)gtlaw.com> Date: Monday, 16 December 2024 at 18:53 To: Lars Hoffmann <lars.hoffmann(a)icann.org>, Elisa Busette <elisa.busetto(a)icann.org>, "subpro-irt(a)icann.org" <subpro-irt(a)icann.org> Subject: [Ext] RE: [SubPro-IRT] Re: Order of Application Processing and the Prioritization Draw Affirmation 19.1 also requires that the ticket be paid for? Why can’t we have a raffle where the ticket is free? This would eliminate a lot of risk. Marc H. Trachtenberg Shareholder Chair, Internet, Domain Name, e-Commerce and Social Media Practice Greenberg Traurig, LLP 77 West Wacker Drive | Suite 3100 | Chicago, IL 60601 T +1 312.456.1020 M +1 773.677.3305 trac(a)gtlaw.com<mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com> | www.gtlaw.com [gtlaw.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.gtlaw.com/__;!!PtGJab4!45PRdH9o1SVzA8…> | View GT Biography [gtlaw.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.gtlaw.com/en/professionals/t/trachte…> [Greenberg Traurig Logo] [cid:image002.png@01DB4FED.6D155680] From: Lars Hoffmann <lars.hoffmann(a)icann.org> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2024 11:51 AM To: Trachtenberg, Marc H. (Shld-Chi-IP-Tech) <trachtenbergm(a)gtlaw.com>; Elisa Busetto <elisa.busetto(a)icann.org>; subpro-irt(a)icann.org Subject: Re: [SubPro-IRT] Re: Order of Application Processing and the Prioritization Draw Dear all, Thank you, Mark, for your feedback. A quick recap: following some initial feedback from the IRT [Mark, if I recall your one of the one’s who spoke up on this point], ICANN org had looked into implementing a solution without the need to buy a ticket. Subsequently, we presented to the IRT a method that would forego the entire raffle idea, based also on implementation guidance 19.2, which suggests “to explore ways to assign a prioritization number during the application process without the need for a distinctly separate drawing event.” Please note, from an org perspective a non-draw would certainly make things easier and reduce costs for the program. However, after presenting this alternative to the IRT (I will try and dig out the recording later), the IRT noted that Affirmation 19.1 requires a repeat of the draw – notwithstanding the guidance of 19.2. Therefore, we (staff) have reverted to the draw as the way to determine prioritization. [Mark, I believe you were not on this particular call]. I hope this is helpful context. Very best. Lars From: trachtenbergm--- via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt(a)icann.org<mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org>> Reply-To: "trachtenbergm(a)gtlaw.com<mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com>" <trachtenbergm(a)gtlaw.com<mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com>> Date: Monday, 16 December 2024 at 17:52 To: Elisa Busette <elisa.busetto(a)icann.org<mailto:elisa.busetto@icann.org>>, "subpro-irt(a)icann.org<mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org>" <subpro-irt(a)icann.org<mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org>> Subject: [SubPro-IRT] Re: Order of Application Processing and the Prioritization Draw My primary question in case I can’t attend tomorrow is why do we need to include the requirement to purchase a ticket? This is where the legal risk comes from, in particular with respect to the draw being deemed an illegal lottery and/or requiring a permit. I am fine with the concept of a priority draw and making it optional – but there should be no cost to purchasing a ticket. It should not cost much to operate the draw and there will be plenty of application fee money to cover whether incremental cost there is for this. Marc H. Trachtenberg Shareholder Chair, Internet, Domain Name, e-Commerce and Social Media Practice Greenberg Traurig, LLP 77 West Wacker Drive | Suite 3100 | Chicago, IL 60601 T +1 312.456.1020 M +1 773.677.3305 trac(a)gtlaw.com<mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com> | www.gtlaw.com [gtlaw.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.gtlaw.com/__;!!PtGJab4!_eAG2HVfSUvWJo…> | View GT Biography [gtlaw.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.gtlaw.com/en/professionals/t/trachte…> [Greenberg Traurig Logo] [cid:image004.png@01DB4FED.6D155680] From: Elisa Busetto via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt(a)icann.org<mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org>> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2024 9:14 AM To: subpro-irt(a)icann.org<mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org> Subject: [SubPro-IRT] Order of Application Processing and the Prioritization Draw *EXTERNAL TO GT* Dear all, Please find here<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1T5Gap0fzeOTW…> the proposed language for “Order of Application Processing and the Prioritization Draw”. A pdf version of the document is posted on tomorrow’s meeting page<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/community.icann.org/x/gwEiFg__;!!DUT_TFP…>. Best regards, Elisa ________________________________ If you are not an intended recipient of confidential and privileged information in this email, please delete it, notify us immediately at postmaster(a)gtlaw.com<mailto:postmaster@gtlaw.com>, and do not use or disseminate the information.

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Re: Order of Application Processing and the Prioritization Draw
by Lars Hoffmann Dec. 16, 2024

Dec. 16, 2024

Dear all, Thank you, Mark, for your feedback. A quick recap: following some initial feedback from the IRT [Mark, if I recall your one of the one’s who spoke up on this point], ICANN org had looked into implementing a solution without the need to buy a ticket. Subsequently, we presented to the IRT a method that would forego the entire raffle idea, based also on implementation guidance 19.2, which suggests “to explore ways to assign a prioritization number during the application process without the need for a distinctly separate drawing event.” Please note, from an org perspective a non-draw would certainly make things easier and reduce costs for the program. However, after presenting this alternative to the IRT (I will try and dig out the recording later), the IRT noted that Affirmation 19.1 requires a repeat of the draw – notwithstanding the guidance of 19.2. Therefore, we (staff) have reverted to the draw as the way to determine prioritization. [Mark, I believe you were not on this particular call]. I hope this is helpful context. Very best. Lars From: trachtenbergm--- via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt(a)icann.org> Reply-To: "trachtenbergm(a)gtlaw.com" <trachtenbergm(a)gtlaw.com> Date: Monday, 16 December 2024 at 17:52 To: Elisa Busette <elisa.busetto(a)icann.org>, "subpro-irt(a)icann.org" <subpro-irt(a)icann.org> Subject: [SubPro-IRT] Re: Order of Application Processing and the Prioritization Draw My primary question in case I can’t attend tomorrow is why do we need to include the requirement to purchase a ticket? This is where the legal risk comes from, in particular with respect to the draw being deemed an illegal lottery and/or requiring a permit. I am fine with the concept of a priority draw and making it optional – but there should be no cost to purchasing a ticket. It should not cost much to operate the draw and there will be plenty of application fee money to cover whether incremental cost there is for this. Marc H. Trachtenberg Shareholder Chair, Internet, Domain Name, e-Commerce and Social Media Practice Greenberg Traurig, LLP 77 West Wacker Drive | Suite 3100 | Chicago, IL 60601 T +1 312.456.1020 M +1 773.677.3305 trac(a)gtlaw.com<mailto:trachtenbergm@gtlaw.com> | www.gtlaw.com [gtlaw.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.gtlaw.com/__;!!PtGJab4!_eAG2HVfSUvWJo…> | View GT Biography [gtlaw.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.gtlaw.com/en/professionals/t/trachte…> [Greenberg Traurig Logo] [cid:image002.png@01DB4FEB.604253B0] From: Elisa Busetto via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt(a)icann.org> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2024 9:14 AM To: subpro-irt(a)icann.org Subject: [SubPro-IRT] Order of Application Processing and the Prioritization Draw *EXTERNAL TO GT* Dear all, Please find here<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1T5Gap0fzeOTW…> the proposed language for “Order of Application Processing and the Prioritization Draw”. A pdf version of the document is posted on tomorrow’s meeting page<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/community.icann.org/x/gwEiFg__;!!DUT_TFP…>. Best regards, Elisa ________________________________ If you are not an intended recipient of confidential and privileged information in this email, please delete it, notify us immediately at postmaster(a)gtlaw.com, and do not use or disseminate the information.

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Order of Application Processing and the Prioritization Draw
by Elisa Busetto Dec. 16, 2024

Dec. 16, 2024

Dear all, Please find here<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1T5Gap0fzeOTWNUpBK_Bu_Xksd7sw6-R6MhLDKhD…> the proposed language for “Order of Application Processing and the Prioritization Draw”. A pdf version of the document is posted on tomorrow’s meeting page<https://community.icann.org/x/gwEiFg>. Best regards, Elisa

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IN ONE HOUR | SubPro IRT Meeting #99 | 17 December 2024, 13:00-15:00 UTC
by Next Round Policy Implementation Dec. 16, 2024

Dec. 16, 2024

Dear All, Meeting #99 of the SubPro IRT will be held in one hour on 17 December 2024 at 13:00-15:00 UTC [local time [tinyurl.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tinyurl.com/y2h7w78b__;!!PtGJab4!_DaiuxI…>]. The agenda can be consulted here<https://community.icann.org/x/gwEiFg>. Before the meeting, please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior<https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2016-06-28-en>. We would like to remind participants that to ensure transparency of participation in ICANN's multistakeholder model, we ask that you sign in to Zoom sessions using your full name. For example, First Name and Last Name or Surname. You may be removed from the session if you do not sign in using your full name. Zoom information: Join the Zoom Webinar directly (recommended): https://icann.zoom.us/j/97063459905?pwd=VUVsd0J0RnNtRXkyNXJFZW9vdTEzZz09 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/97063459905?pwd=VUVsd0J0…> Meeting ID: 970 6345 9905 Passcode: DQ#0L.9x5e Zoom Audio only: One tap mobile +13462487799,,97063459905#,,,,*5806401747# US (Houston) +16699006833,,97063459905#,,,,*5806401747# US (San Jose) Meeting ID: 970 6345 9905 Passcode: 5806401747 Should you be unable to attend the meeting, please let us know in advance. A recording will be made available. Please do not hesitate to contact us should you have any questions. Best regards, Elisa

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SubPro IRT Meeting #99 | 17 December 2024, 13:00-15:00 UTC
by Next Round Policy Implementation Dec. 16, 2024

Dec. 16, 2024

Dear All, Meeting #99 of the SubPro IRT will be held on 17 December 2024 at 13:00-15:00 UTC [local time<https://tinyurl.com/y2h7w78b>]. The agenda can be consulted here<https://community.icann.org/x/gwEiFg>. Before the meeting, please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior<https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2016-06-28-en>. We would like to remind participants that to ensure transparency of participation in ICANN's multistakeholder model, we ask that you sign in to Zoom sessions using your full name. For example, First Name and Last Name or Surname. You may be removed from the session if you do not sign in using your full name. Zoom information: Join the Zoom Webinar directly (recommended): https://icann.zoom.us/j/97063459905?pwd=VUVsd0J0RnNtRXkyNXJFZW9vdTEzZz09 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/97063459905?pwd=VUVsd0J0…> Meeting ID: 970 6345 9905 Passcode: DQ#0L.9x5e Zoom Audio only: One tap mobile +13462487799,,97063459905#,,,,*5806401747# US (Houston) +16699006833,,97063459905#,,,,*5806401747# US (San Jose) Meeting ID: 970 6345 9905 Passcode: 5806401747 Should you be unable to attend the meeting, please let us know in advance. A recording will be made available. Please do not hesitate to contact us should you have any questions. Best regards, Elisa

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Re: Language for Meeting #97a
by Elisa Busetto Dec. 13, 2024

Dec. 13, 2024

P.S. Please note that this language was shared and discussed before; in the meeting we will go through some changes we made based on your feedback as well as internal discussions. Best, Elisa From: Elisa Busetto via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt(a)icann.org> Reply to: Elisa Busetto <elisa.busetto(a)icann.org> Date: Tuesday, 10 December 2024 at 15:58 To: "subpro-irt(a)icann.org" <subpro-irt(a)icann.org> Subject: [SubPro-IRT] Language for Meeting #97a Dear all, Please find below links to the language that we will discuss during Meeting #97a<https://community.icann.org/x/H4CpG>. * Community Input and Dispute Resolution [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1bWQejPrHG4Lh…> * Dispute Resolution Procedure [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1F-JZYYgbVqZY…> * Objection Appeals Procedure [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1QpSpvUDdJnrz…> Best, Elisa

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SubPro IRT Meeting #100a | 8 January 2025, 13:00-14:00 UTC
by Next Round Policy Implementation Dec. 13, 2024

Dec. 13, 2024

Dear All, Meeting #100a of the SubPro IRT will be held on 8 January 2025 at 13:00-14:00 UTC [local time<https://tinyurl.com/mu3tdtyz>]. The agenda can be consulted here<https://community.icann.org/x/BgBWGQ>. Before the meeting, please be sure you have read the ICANN Expected Standards of Behavior<https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2016-06-28-en>. We would like to remind participants that to ensure transparency of participation in ICANN's multistakeholder model, we ask that you sign in to Zoom sessions using your full name. For example, First Name and Last Name or Surname. You may be removed from the session if you do not sign in using your full name. Zoom information: Join the Zoom Webinar directly (recommended): https://icann.zoom.us/j/97063459905?pwd=VUVsd0J0RnNtRXkyNXJFZW9vdTEzZz09 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/97063459905?pwd=VUVsd0J0…> Meeting ID: 970 6345 9905 Passcode: DQ#0L.9x5e Zoom Audio only: One tap mobile +13462487799,,97063459905#,,,,*5806401747# US (Houston) +16699006833,,97063459905#,,,,*5806401747# US (San Jose) Meeting ID: 970 6345 9905 Passcode: 5806401747 Should you be unable to attend the meeting, please let us know in advance. A recording will be made available. Please do not hesitate to contact us should you have any questions. Best regards, Renate

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Post call | SubPro IRT Meeting #98 | 12 December 2024
by Next Round Policy Implementation Dec. 13, 2024

Dec. 13, 2024

Dear All, The recordings for Meeting #98 of the SubPro IRT held on Thursday, 12 December 2024 at 19:00-20:00 UTC are published on the meeting wiki page<https://community.icann.org/x/fAEiFg> These include: * Audio recording * Zoom recording (including audio, visual, rough transcript, chat) * Attendance For additional information, you may consult the mailing list archives<https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/subpro-irt/> and the main wiki page<https://community.icann.org/x/pQM5Dg>. Best regards, Renate

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